Anatomy of a Photo: Laurent Fignon, 1989 Tour de France

Anatomy of a Photo: Laurent Fignon, 1989 Tour de France

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I know the feeling, Laurent. Sometimes I just want to give the cross winds a big, “Fuck You”, too.

// Anatomy of a Photo

  1. Poor George if he ever lands here.

  2. @michael
    I actually think Shoecovers is alright. He protected Cuddles for the majority of the #TdF and managed to get him into position for some of the ascents. Did better than some of the other “so called” Super Domestiques

  3. @Marcus
    Love it! With a name like Hoser, I’m surprised he’s not Canadian…

  4. @frank

    @James

    Did Pinarello make those funny bikes for Raleigh? Man, what I’d give for one with the double discs. Anyhow, here’s an old TT frame from that era that’s in the project queue. The geometry makes me wince every time I look at it. :)

    OUTSTANDING! Are those double chainstays? Loves me straight-bladed chrome fork, too. You’ll have to keep us posted on your build.
    @scaler911

    Very cool. Can’t wait to get my Viner TT funny bike done. Hopefully be done correctly this winter.

    Pictures, please.

    Here ya go. It’s in sad shape right now, but I do know a couple things about it: It was used by one of the members of the US ’84 Olympic team. It’s a 56cm (probably Ron Kiefel), and it has serial #69 on the bottom. I’ve contacted Viner, and while they have been nice, they are not helpful about it’s original kit.
    Any help would be nice. I’ve found someone to paint it and have replacement decals. Oli? Frank?

  5. Fuck, why didn’t the photo upload??

  6. arraghhhhhhh!!!!!!!

  7. @Xponti

    @G’phant

    @minionhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin’s_law

    Touche

    If I ever meet whatshisname Goodwin I’m gonna do something unpleasant to something he owns while he’s not looking. Smart arse bastard.

  8. @Marcus
    Funny, I was about to characterise my dealings with Australians to shaking a snake in a sack – you wanna do it to get them riled up, but if they bite you it’s your own fault. And you’re fucked.

    @michael
    Shame on us indeed.

  9. @minion
    Bahahahahahahahaa

  10. @minion
    It’s funny. Only just the other day I was thinking about New Zealanders. And then I forgot about them.

  11. Fignon is a god to me, even more so after reading his book soon after he passed away. A true sportsman.

    Fuck me, they road 53/42s. Manhood, ultimate manhood.

    2 cents.

    PS-Frank, fucking awesome picture. Thank you.

  12. @minion

    An Aussie, a Kiwi, and a South African are at a bar one night having a beer. All of a sudden the South African drinks his beer, takes off his diamond encrusted watch, pulls out a gun and shoots the watch to pieces. He says “In Seth Efrika we have so many diamonds that we don’t need to wear the same diamond twice”.The Kiwi (obviously impressed by this) drinks his beer, throws his glass into the air, pulls out his gun and shoots the glass to pieces. He says “Wull bro, in Niw Zulland we have so much sand to make the glass that we don’t need to drink out of the same cup twice”.

    The Australian then pulls out his gun and shoots the Kiwi

    An Australian ventriloquist visiting New Zealand walks into a small town and sees a local sitting on his porch patting his dog. He figures he’ll have a little fun.
    Ventriloquist: “G’day Mate! Good looking dog, mate. Mind if I speak to him?”
    New Zealander: “The dog doesn’t talk, you stupid Aussie.”
    Ventriloquist: “Hey dog, how’s it going old mate?”
    Dog: “Doin’ alright.”
    New Zealander: (extreme look of shock)
    Ventriloquist: “Is this Kiwi your owner?”, pointing at New Zealander
    Dog: “Yep”
    Ventriloquist: “How does he treat you?”
    Dog: “Real good. He walks me twice a day, feeds me great food, and takes me to the lake once a week to play.”
    New Zealander: (look of disbelief)
    Ventriloquist: “Mind if I talk to your horse?”
    New Zealander: “Uh, the horse doesn’t talk either…I think.”
    Ventriloquist: “Hey horse, how’s it going?”
    Horse: “Cool.”
    New Zealander: (extreme look of shock)
    Ventriloquist: “Is this your owner?” (pointing at New Zealander)
    Horse: “Yep”
    Ventriloquist: “How’s he treating you?”
    Horse: “Pretty good, thanks for asking. He rides me regularly, brushes me down often, and keeps me in the barn to protect me from the elements.”
    New Zealander: (total look of amazement)
    Ventriloquist: “Mind if I talk to your sheep?”
    New Zealander: “The sheep’s a liar!”

  13. When it’s a kiwi we call them jokes. When it’s an Aussie it’s a documentary.

  14. Once upon a time in the Kingdom of Heaven, God went missing for Six days. Eventually, Michael the Archangel found him, resting on the seventh day. He inquired of God, “Where have you been?”

    God sighed a deep sigh of satisfaction and proudly pointed downwards through the clouds, “Look Michael, look what I’ve made.” Archangel Michael looked puzzled and said, “What is it?”

    “It’s a planet, replied God, “and I’ve put LIFE on it. I’m going to call it Earth and it’s going to be a great place of balance”.

    “Balance?” inquired Michael, still confused.

    God explained, pointing to different parts of Earth.

    “For example, Northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and wealth while Southern Europe is going to be poor; the Middle East over there will be a hot spot.”

    “Over there I’ve placed a continent of white people and over there is a continent of black people” God continued, pointing to different countries. “And over there, I call this place America.

    North America will be rich and powerful and cold, while South America will be poor, and hot and friendly. And the little spot in the middle is Central America which is a Hot spot. Can you see the balance?”

    “Yes” said the Archangel, impressed by Gods work, then he pointed to a smallish land mass and asked, “What’s that one?”

    “Ah” said God. “That’s New Zealand, the most glorious place on Earth. There are beautiful mountains, rainforests, rivers, streams and an exquisite coast line. The people are good looking, intelligent and humorous and they’re going to be found traveling the world. They’ll be extremely sociable, hard-working and high-achieving, and they will be known throughout the world as diplomats and carriers of peace. I’m also going to give them super- human, undefeatable, strong in character citizens who will be admired and feared by all who come across them”.

    Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then exclaimed, “You said there will be BALANCE!”

    God replied wisely. “Wait until you see the buggers I’m putting next to them”

  15. @frank

    @Oli, @michael, @brett, @Steampunk
    I’m with BrettOK on this one; Michaels’ just making a joke using a term we made up here (first loser) that come across as awkward because sarcasm doesn’t always translate well on the interwebs. He’s been around a long time and obviously gets it. It’s just a misunderstanding.

    Ahahahaaaa! I think that saying has been around a lot longer than Velominati, Frank! You’re not bad…

    But otherwise I agree, hence (after sussing out he wasn’t trolling) my reply being more educational than confrontational.

  16. I was just becoming a fan of PRO cycling in the late 80s. I’m thrilled I can say I watched him while he was still racing, not just in archival footage.

    Love photos of him in his hogwashers bibs…

    Oh yeah, I know it’s an advert, but some of the stuff Cancellara says is rather outstanding. The locked fingers, with him on top…awesomeness. You gotta want to win to win.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcE4vPyyV2I

  17. @Xponti

    By the way. We have just had our Census here down under, and I marked my religion as “Velominati”. What did you put down @marcus

    Awww dude, you so shouldn’t have. Each “fake” religion vote in the Census counts as a vote for Aus as a religious country & then contributes to organised religions receiving more govt funding to continue their touching of little boys & girls…

  18. @Ron

    I was just becoming a fan of PRO cycling in the late 80s. I’m thrilled I can say I watched him while he was still racing, not just in archival footage.
    Love photos of him in his hogwashers bibs…
    Oh yeah, I know it’s an advert, but some of the stuff Cancellara says is rather outstanding. The locked fingers, with him on top…awesomeness. You gotta want to win to win.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcE4vPyyV2I

    +1 yep

  19. @Oli

    Ahahahaaaa! I think that saying has been around a lot longer than Velominati, Frank! You’re not bad…

    Awesome, FrÃ¥nkie’s claimin it! He also invented ‘whatever’ and ‘dude’…

  20. :-D

  21. @Ron

    Oh yeah, I know it’s an advert, but some of the stuff Cancellara says is rather outstanding.

    I’m not buyin it… last year he told me Specialized was best.

  22. Crikey lads, all getting a bit precious about ourselves today….

    Having read Laurent’s book, I’ll withhold my judgement for fear of anhililation

    Anyway, interetsing reshuffles going on – can’t wait for Faboo to destroy Garmion Cervelo or BMC at P-R or whoever Thor is riding for next year – true Thor did a top team job, but as a Faboo fan, it was hard to watch the Lion with someone standing on his tail

    Tony Martin off to Leopard Trek, maybe with O’Grady gone that won’t make a difference, but it’ll be ineteresting to see if Jens and Tony form some sort of depth charging role for Faboo’s obliteration of the P-R contenders next year – I’m more excited about P-R 2012 than anything in between save the WC and ToL

    Fast Phil going to BMC….arse! Must be the team strip, but I just can’t love them, though it was clear with 30km to go at Enoco yesterday, that he is already training with them….

    Cav with no FedEx…. who’ll lead him out now? EBH/ Greg Henderson? Velly interesting – the break up of HTC could be the most exciting, if very unfortunate, thing to come for 2012

    yada yada yada

  23. @frank
    Interesting, thanks Frank. Sounds like the UCI and their waffling ways on aeros moments before a TT stage hasn’t changed a bit at all. Must have been a long, PITA ride hanging on the wing grips like that for the whole TT, but Le Prof was such a BAMF, maybe aeros wouldn’t have mattered. Maybe….

  24. @brett
    And the internet. Don’t forget he invented that, too.

  25. @Mikael Liddy

    @Xponti
    By the way. We have just had our Census here down under, and I marked my religion as “Velominati”. What did you put down @marcus
    Awww dude, you so shouldn’t have. Each “fake” religion vote in the Census counts as a vote for Aus as a religious country & then contributes to organised religions receiving more govt funding to continue their touching of little boys & girls…

    Wow I just finished my census, what a missed opportunity “Velominati!!! NOOOO, its too late, the ship has left.

    BTW thanks @frank for the post and a great pic – its beautiful no?

  26. @Dr C
    It seemed to me that Thor and Ballan were probably as strong as Faboo that day and I was expecting a similar finish to 2008 (substituting Thor for Boonen).

  27. @Alex
    ….until he blew them off his wheel with that ridiculous bridge he made to Maarten Dingalingi

    Not blaming Thor, it was the right thing to do, and fair play to JVS, and his copious Belgian toothpaste, but faboo was such an awesome MF that day, I just think he deserved more – roll on 2012!!

  28. 8 secs…..just need a half wheel!

  29. @ChrisO

    Sitting by the side of the road while a triathlete tries to work out WTF has gone wrong with his valve extenders is a regular part of my life.

    And they’d make even more improvement spending the money on a swim coach.

    I’m a triathlete nerd, and you have me laughing out loud. Only because it’s so true.

    Thanks for that, I needed the chuckle this morning.

  30. @frank, thanks for the photo. Laurent in full flight…….

  31. @Timiji @ChrisO
    I watched a triathlon last weekend – why was it that the guys with the expensive carbon Tri-Bikes slowed down to take off their shoes with 500 metres to go, which included a 60m ascent?

    – I ask, because there were a bunch of ordinary geezers on ordinary bikes whizzing past them, as the guys with their shoes flapping aimlessly on their pedals couldn’t get up the hill….. in fact one had to get off and push his bike up the hill

  32. @scaler911

    @frank

    @James

    Did Pinarello make those funny bikes for Raleigh? Man, what I’d give for one with the double discs. Anyhow, here’s an old TT frame from that era that’s in the project queue. The geometry makes me wince every time I look at it. :)

    OUTSTANDING! Are those double chainstays? Loves me straight-bladed chrome fork, too. You’ll have to keep us posted on your build.
    @scaler911

    Very cool. Can’t wait to get my Viner TT funny bike done. Hopefully be done correctly this winter.

    Pictures, please.

    Here ya go. It’s in sad shape right now, but I do know a couple things about it: It was used by one of the members of the US ’84 Olympic team. It’s a 56cm (probably Ron Kiefel), and it has serial #69 on the bottom. I’ve contacted Viner, and while they have been nice, they are not helpful about it’s original kit.
    Any help would be nice. I’ve found someone to paint it and have replacement decals. Oli? Frank?

    Try this again:

  33. @scaler911
    Cool frame! If my dim memory serves right, the American squad rode “Raleigh” and “Huffy”. I put quotes because they were typically made by someone else and tagged for endorsement purposes. I don’t remember the U.S. guys riding Viners with the curved seat tube. I remember the U.S. bikes as having straight tubes and were sort of aero. I think the Italians rode Viners in the 100km TTT, or at least a couple of them did.

  34. @Jeff in PetroMetro

    @scaler911
    Cool frame! If my dim memory serves right, the American squad rode “Raleigh” and “Huffy”. I put quotes because they were typically made by someone else and tagged for endorsement purposes. I don’t remember the U.S. guys riding Viners with the curved seat tube. I remember the U.S. bikes as having straight tubes and were sort of aero. I think the Italians rode Viners in the 100km TTT, or at least a couple of them did.

    Ya. The buddy that I got it from swears that he got it from a member of that squad. Hard to say. I just sent a ‘friend request’ with a message to Ron Kiefel. Hopefully he responds. If it’s not from that team, then I’ll have to dig some more. I just want to do the build correctly.

  35. I bet you get the build right just by installing a whole shitload of Campagnolo all over it. And Cinelli stem and cowhorn. And a Selle San Marco saddle. Just a guess, but, damn, what a cool bike it will be!!!

  36. @Jeff in PetroMetro
    I think Serotta built most of those Huffys. Here is a nice blog post from the chap who built many of them.

  37. @Jeff in PetroMetro

    I bet you get the build right just by installing a whole shitload of Campagnolo all over it. And Cinelli stem and cowhorn. And a Selle San Marco saddle. Just a guess, but, damn, what a cool bike it will be!!!

    That’s what I’m thinking. I also have the original wheel set; Mavic/ Campa hubs, 7 speed straight block. Be fun to show up to our LBC weekly TT on it, and give the Tri-geeks a little schooling.

  38. @Oli
    *ahem* *sheepishly sidles out of the room* Not sure what I was thinking making that claim. I blame it on my sun-baked brain.

    Hows about I do penance on Haleakala tomorrow?

  39. @Nate

    @Jeff in PetroMetro
    I think Serotta built most of those Huffys. Here is a nice blog post from the chap who built many of them.

    Love the Phinney photo! Worthy of an “Anatomy of a photo” write up.

  40. @scaler911
    The build is worthy of a Progetto post when it happens, as is the schooling, in the right category.

  41. @frank
    Sounds good to me.

  42. @frank
    was a mighty ridiculous claim….

  43. @Nate/chris/metroJeff
    Yes…those huffy’s were built by Serotta…very sweet rides!

    I would give a kidney for one w/first generation dura-ace on it & mavic tubular hoops in 7-eleven paint

  44. @minion
    Dear Minion,
    Good joke. I seem to recall hearing the same one except you substitute Scotland for New Zealand and England for “the buggers next door.” Kinda works too especially as so many Scots settled in NZ . . .

  45. @michael
    So you don’t rate Fignon as a rider. Well lets see:
    He won the Tour at the age of 22 becoming one of the youngest ever to win it. he won it the next year again.
    He won the Giro in 89 – which maybe cost him the tour that year – you know the 8 seconds to GL
    He won 9 stages of the Tour overall
    He won Milan San Remo in 88 and 89
    He won the Fleche in 86
    He won the Criterium International in 82 and 90
    As much as i like GH i don’t think its a valid comparison. The fact that you don’t rate LF makes me wonder if you are past your sell by date or maybe you’ve had too much Roo meat.

  46. @Dr C
    fair point, that was a ridiculous bridge up, but they had covered his moves each time before, perhaps that last one was the bridge too far or not motivated to chase for 4th?

  47. Fignon was awesome, full stop.
    Classics, Grand Tours, bold attacks and panache! Even though he lost the tour in ’89 he still finished like 3rd on the stage and rode 50km/h.

    @sisyphus969

  48. @Alex

    @Dr Cfair point, that was a ridiculous bridge up, but they had covered his moves each time before, perhaps that last one was the bridge too far or not motivated to chase for 4th?

    probably an everyday activity during the fab 70’s and 80’s, but I haven’t seen someone handing out such a heavyweight beating so repeatedly with his attacks, as Faboo did that day – especially the bit where he tried to use the camera bike as a chicane and nearly crashed into it himself – still makes me tingle when I watch it (firmly in my Keep selection on Sky+, and Dave Harmon’s commentary was epic on Eurosport) – Thor, and Ballan too, were mighty for hanging on as long as they did, by which stage it was too late and JVS was gone – awesome stuff, race of the year

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