Awesome Dutch Dudes: Hennie Kuiper

Awesome Dutch Dudes: Hennie Kuiper

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  1. @Pedale.Forchetta
    Agree 100%

  2. @Netraam

    Hennie Kuiper was really undervalued in the Netherlands. You only read about him sometimes if the subject is Joop Zoetemelk.
    Also Jan Janssen, another Dutch allrounder who won the Tour AND Paris-Roubaix.

    Interesting – I haven’t studied Jan enough to have realized that he won both races. There are more riders who won the Tour and Roubaix – the significance is winning a mountaintop stage and Roubaix – by today’s reasoning, thats not possible. We see the big, heavy guys winning Roubaix, and the whispy waifs winning up high.

    Joopie is, of course, a class act, but he’s one of those riders that I’ve never been able to get thrilled about. Seemed he lacked a certain edginess; not sure what. But a great rider for sure. And an amazingly long career.

    Here are Joop and Jansen, still looking mean.

  3. And who can forget the Joop/Hinault showdown on the Champs-Elysees in ’79?? And his great ride in ’80 when finally all his competitors didn’t show up?

    Slideshow:

    Fullscreen:

    Download:

  4. very good work Fronk:

    this stuff really is getting me ready for the classics, and I’m stuffing cash in my pocket getting ready for the second cogal (i hope) for the P-R Vride, a lifetime achievement for anyone

  5. @frank

    And who can forget the Joop/Hinault showdown on the Champs-Elysees in ’79?? And his great ride in ’80 when finally all his competitors didn’t show up?

    Not to be uncharitable to Joop, but I think had Hinault not retired with serious knee problems after a very wet stage, he would have won the 1980 tour. Look at Hinault’s form in 1980. He won L-B-L, the Giro and won the prologue and states 4 and 5 of the tour. Barring the injury, there can be little doubt he’d have won.

    Still I was glad Joop got a Tour as he deserved it (11 top 10 placings!), unlike chancers like Pereiro. (Ok, I know he won because Floyd was disqualified for doping, but it was still a lucky win.) However, Joop did have a point though that he stayed healthy and Hinault did not. You can only compete against the competition who show up, the rest is conjecture.

    Also, you’re right. RdV did ride Gazelles. In that pic of him wearing those goddamn awful knee/leg covers he’s riding a Gazelle. They were the team bike for Daf Trucks team in 1981-82.

  6. @frank
    Absolutely love Jaja’s career right up to the point he became a massive triathlete.

    Talk about going over to the Dark Side!

  7. @Pedale.Forchetta

    @frankI do really hope you are right on Nibali, we (Italians) are in absolute need of some positive figure,and not only in cycling.

    What’s your opinion of Giovanni Visconti getting another Pro Tour chance with Movistar? Is he in the team solely for the Giro?

  8. @frank
    Well hey, if Thor ever gets a P-R win, he’ll have done just that.

  9. I think that for Visconti compete in 2012 for Movistar it’s his last chance for a real breakthrough. I don’t know his program, but let him race only the Giro, without the Spring Classics looks like an error to me. I think he’s good, very good, but be great is another thing, let’s see.

    Here his last appearance in the Farnese kit. (Il Lombardia 2011)

  10. Hi Frank, good story, thanks for this. And it’s good to see I am not the only dutch Velominati on the world. I’d love to see the other episodes. maybe Jo de Roo? Mentioned in Il Lombardia the movie.
    Trailer for this movie: http://youtu.be/U_O8pSMIGFI
    Greetings from Utrecht.

  11. @frank
    Janssen actually did win a mountaintop finish, if I’m not mistaken. If only I had that book still here…

  12. @DerHoggz

    @frank
    Well hey, if Thor ever gets a P-R win, he’ll have done just that.

    No, he won a mountain stage, not a mountaintop finish – he’s buggered completely when it comes to real climbing. His awesome win was on the merit of his gnarly descending skills; the climbers smoked him on the way up!

    That notwithstanding, his was a huge display of versatility – but the point is to win a stage like l’Alpe d’Huez which is considered one of the hardest uphill finishes to win as well as Roubaix, which is one of the hardest classics is very rare.

  13. @Papageno

    Hi Frank, good story, thanks for this. And it’s good to see I am not the only dutch Velominati on the world. I’d love to see the other episodes. maybe Jo de Roo? Mentioned in Il Lombardia the movie.
    Trailer for this movie: http://youtu.be/U_O8pSMIGFI
    Greetings from Utrecht.

    There’s a handful of us crazies out here, so you’re not alone! There are loads of Awesome Dutch Dudes…more installments coming!

  14. @frank

    @Papageno

    Hi Frank, good story, thanks for this. And it’s good to see I am not the only dutch Velominati on the world. I’d love to see the other episodes. maybe Jo de Roo? Mentioned in Il Lombardia the movie.Trailer for this movie: http://youtu.be/U_O8pSMIGFIGreetings from Utrecht.

    There’s a handful of us crazies out here, so you’re not alone! There are loads of Awesome Dutch Dudes…more installments coming!

    Oh yes, they are out there. Every spring in honor of the Classics, a group of Dutch cycling enthusiasts in Milwaukee organize a “roughest roads we can find” ride between and around the little towns of Belgium, Wisconsin, which actually was settled by Luxembourgers in the mid-1800’s (and is the home of the Luxembourg-American Museum), and Oostburg, Wisconsin, settled by Dutch immigrants in the 1840’s.

  15. @Buck Rogers

    ok, then:

    Fausto Coppi:
    – Paris–Roubaix (1950)
    – L’Alpe d’Huez (1952)

    Louison Bobet
    – Paris–Roubaix (1956)
    – Ronde van Vlaanderen (1955)
    – TdF Mountain classification (1950)

    Gianni Bugno
    – Ronde van Vlaanderen (1994)
    – L’Alpe d’Huez (1990, 1991)

    I’m sure I could dig up more but I just can’t be bothered. :)

  16. @The Tashkent Error
    :)

    I was not doubting that riders had done both in the past, but I am a huge LeMan fan and had to keep his honour intact! (still think he should have dropped The Badger on the climb and won it solo. But at least Hampsten manged to leave an American face in the winners list six years later).

  17. @Frank

    “Joopie is, of course, a class act, but he’s one of those riders that I’ve never been able to get thrilled about. Seemed he lacked a certain edginess; not sure what. But a great rider for sure. And an amazingly long career.”

    I know what you mean Frank, I’ve always felt similar. Zoop was on the down side of his career when I started following racing. Even as a kid I remember thinking that he seemed like a nice guy who just lacked the killer instinct of Hinault and some others. A great career for sure, but a lot of second places in there.

    I hate to say it, but something about Andy Schleck has always reminded me of him….

  18. Maybe he’s not a cyclist, but he sure is Dutch: Wim Hof.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wim_Hof

  19. Just read this article again and I think Thor was never closer than that day until this happened

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq6VFedi9XQ

    Silly guy in a grey sweater ‘Geert pas op’.Ha.

  20. Something is wrong with the link.Trying again here

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq6VFedi9XQ

  21. @TommyTubolare

    Something is wrong with the link.Trying again here
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq6VFedi9XQ

    There’s a version of that scene somewhere with Norwegian commentary, the way they start to freak out as he crashes is just fantastic!

    Here it is, but you’ll have to click the “View at YouTube” link and then skip to about 1/4 way into the video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYqFGvIPcSo

  22. @frank
    Thanks a lot.I like this one also

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T7TOTu3MyU

    By the way the guy in the white Colnago sweater was on 2011 Zipp brochure plus few others.He got the spot for himself for sure.

  23. @frank
    Yes frank! This Norwegian duo is fucking awesome

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS9qqXSoANM&feature=related

  24. No idea where to put this as it ain’t cycling, but it is Dutch people being casually hard as nails.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WhvJDnxw-U
    Man with a gun (WITH A GUN) tries to rob a pub in Rotterdam and nobody pays any attention to him. Until they chase his arse out of there.

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