68 Replies to “La Solidarité”

  1. @DCR12

    @Oli

    Banning refugees/closing borders is exactly the sort of knee-jerk xenophobic reaction that ISIS want to foment. Don’t fall into their trap by blaming the people fleeing massive violence because one or two of terrorists used them as cover.

    We won’t sort out terrorism by treating people worse, that’s for damn sure.

    You are right. I don’t blame the people fleeing the violence..Its just that a lot of the refugees aren’t fleeing violence at all, and are not from countries where the violence (in terms of Terrorism) is occurring.

    Also, I am certainly not xenophobic…I have Muslim family members, and grew up in a Muslim country before coming to the great land of Australia…. Its the best country on earth, with well defined borders, and it deserves to remain so.

    So you’re an immigrant? Australia was a lot better before all the immigrants.

    I agree with @Brett. Australia is a fucking embarrassment. Pretends to be a bastion of goodness. Meantime in trouble with the UN Human Rights Council.

  2. The U.S. turned away Jewish refugees during World War II, not only out of anti-semitism, but because of fears that German spies would sneak in with them. History doesn’t look back kindly on that decision and it damn well shouldn’t. When fear trumps our humanity, we become less than we are. 

    [ insert sweet analogy about stowing your fear away and nailing a fast descent here ]

    From where I sit, you can’t meet inhumanity with inhumanity. Families are fleeing their homes, trying to cross the sea in craft ill-suited to the trip, walking hundreds of miles with no real hope of finding welcome on the other side, because those gambles have better odds than staying where they are. It’s an act of pure desperation. You don’t turn your back on that.

  3. @LawnCzar

    The U.S. turned away Jewish refugees during World War II, not only out of anti-semitism, but because of fears that German spies would sneak in with them. History doesn’t look back kindly on that decision and it damn well shouldn’t. When fear trumps our humanity, we become less than we are.

    [ insert sweet analogy about stowing your fear away and nailing a fast descent here ]

    From where I sit, you can’t meet inhumanity with inhumanity. Families are fleeing their homes, trying to cross the sea in craft ill-suited to the trip, walking hundreds of miles with no real hope of finding welcome on the other side, because those gambles have better odds than staying where they are. It’s an act of pure desperation. You don’t turn your back on that.

    Spot on

  4. History repeating itself ad nauseum, perpetrated by the USA/CIA and continued to be supported by a clueless populace fed lies, hate and division by the NWO-controlled mass mainstream media.

    Obama is a war criminal in the same vein as Nixon, Clinton, Bush 1 and 2, and the biggest criminal of all, Kissinger. True evil still getting away with mass genocide in the name of money, oil and power, cloaked under the guise of Christianity and peace. It makes me sick.

  5. @Harminator

    @DCR12

    @Oli

    Banning refugees/closing borders is exactly the sort of knee-jerk xenophobic reaction that ISIS want to foment. Don’t fall into their trap by blaming the people fleeing massive violence because one or two of terrorists used them as cover.

    We won’t sort out terrorism by treating people worse, that’s for damn sure.

    You are right. I don’t blame the people fleeing the violence..Its just that a lot of the refugees aren’t fleeing violence at all, and are not from countries where the violence (in terms of Terrorism) is occurring.

    Also, I am certainly not xenophobic…I have Muslim family members, and grew up in a Muslim country before coming to the great land of Australia…. Its the best country on earth, with well defined borders, and it deserves to remain so.

    So you’re an immigrant? Australia was a lot better before all the immigrants.

    I agree with @Brett. Australia is a fucking embarrassment. Pretends to be a bastion of goodness. Meantime in trouble with the UN Human Rights Council.

    I assume you’re also including those who had no choice in coming out here a couple of hundred years ago?

  6. @Oli

    Banning refugees/closing borders is exactly the sort of knee-jerk xenophobic reaction that ISIS want to foment. Don’t fall into their trap by blaming the people fleeing massive violence because one or two of terrorists used them as cover.

    We won’t sort out terrorism by treating people worse, that’s for damn sure.

    Agreed, and runs the risk of using Arnaud Amalric’s supposed logic of (paraphrasing here) “kill them all, let God sort them out.”

  7. @piwakawaka

    @DCR12

    @piwakawaka

    I understand the intent, and appreciate that what you are saying should be the way of things. If only…!..….if only we could all put down our weapons and pick up a bike !

    I’m gonna continue with the cartoons, the absurdity of what we are fighting in the name of.

    and what we are fighting for, the arms industry, the infrastructure industry, financial industry, the oil industry and the motherfuckers that own those companies…

    My religion is the Bike, no go out and ride!

    France was tragic, and it can happen anywhere, even here in the good old USA.

  8. @chuckp

    I know not everyone will agree, but my thoughts about this:

    http://www.livefreeblog.com/je_suis_paris_solidarityavecfrance

    And before you pile on, at least know that this kind of stuff is “in my lane”:

    https://www.ouramericainitiative.com/defense-and-foreign-policy.html

    Vive la France! Je suis Paris #solidarityavecfrance

    I respect your opinion. And I wish I could agree. After all, why should we care about Syria and what happens there? And to be pragmatic about it, I read that $ expense was to tune of $11 million per day for current US military activity. Regret this perspective might be oversimplifying the matter however. Woven in to the fabric of western civilization is the idea that life is precious. And some empathy for those less fortunate. And just something about Yazidis, an ancient society most of us would others never have heard of, being enslaved and massacred strikes a chord with free people. Maybe not communists or Sunni’s. But yes, free people in western civilization. Then we get to the grisly circumstances surrounding unfortunate aid workers being publicly executed. I guess people feel compelled to act. Especially free people fortunate to be enjoying the blessings of life. Rightly so. And reality is, it was a taliban controlled Afghanistan that provided safe haven for Al Quaida to hatch their plans and any idea that might not happened in a caliphate of sociopaths? Speaking of sociopaths, the sociopaths that targeted Parisians and claimed was for Syria… any chance they’d just have hijacked any other cause, if not Syria, for them to go about their murderous tendencies? In other words, their wires in their heads are so crossed they’d hijack any old cause to murder random people because that’s what sociopaths do? It’s all around bad stuff that needs to be addressed. Just saying f*** it and leaving it alone… well, I suppose the Chinese can do that. But not free people in western civilization.

  9. But the point is why we get involved and how – unilateral bombings on poorly defined targets for political reasons is a lot different from multi-lateral action targeted at actually putting a stop to all the violence. Too often we’ve seen inactivity where action should follow and action where letting none should occur.

    If you think the Syrian situation is as simple as “free people” helping out of the goodness of our charitable hearts then you’re sorely deluded…

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