@the Engine

@frank

@snoov

I once mentioned (jokingly) to a guy on a chairlift at Big White that we Scots think of Canada as a province of ours. He didn’t like it at all and asked me why it was the case. I asked him if he knew that many of the place names were Scottish for example Banff. “How do you know the Scottish one wasn’t named after the Canadian one?” he queried. “Well ours has been there for much longer. I doubt if a place like Kicking Horse is ours though.” Turns out though that a Scottish surgeon in a group looking for a railway route had been kicked in the chest by his horse during the expedition and that’s where the name came from. I wonder if he checked it online that night like I did.

Brilliant. The second you said Kicking Horse, I thought that has to be part of the training in the Scottish Marshal Art of “Fook Yu!”. Too classy for punching bags, you just go around kicking horse.

Brilliant, I love you crazy fucking Scots. So yes, Thank You.

Crazy?

Us?

Wibble.

Mr Engine, when you say “Wibble” it makes me think I might know you. “Wibble” was the battle cry of Team Alien Space Cadet Banana (TASCB) and I thought they made it up. They were a skateboard crew from Dundee, I was a founding member of Dundee Hardcore Skate Squad (DHSS) and have now been skating for over 25 years. Yes I’ve met Tony Hawk and I even skated with Jay Adams at the Kailua skatepark on O’ahu (to be honest we were skating the park at the same time and he maybe grunted in my direction once or twice, seriously grumpy guy). If you ever skated in Scotland especially in the 90s we might have met.

Mr Snoov -Me? Skate? Nearest I ever got to skating was working a fishing boat in Montrose. Also in the 90’s I was beginning to move in to the breeding and blimping phase of life. 

Wibble, I have to confess, originally comes from Blackadder – remember the last one in the series where Captain Blackadder tries to avoid the big push by feigning madness. Unfortunately, as he points out, “Who would notice one more madman around here?” The show went out in the late ’80’s so I’m guessing that one of your skating buddies picked it up from there. 

Of course it could have been the other way round. 

Also we need to get the Scottish Cogal sorted.

No doubt about Dutch influence on American society, but I was actually referring to the (largely) Canadian liberation of the Netherlands. But hey, what’s freedom from the Nazis when compared to lending some words and place names to a language?

I’m not slagging Canada at all. Quite the opposite. I was born there, spent the first 20 years of my life there, and still have a Canadian passport (among others). I’ve been a cyclist and fan of the sport most of my life and I’ve never been more satisfied with a race result than I was with Ryder’s win. I was jumping up and down in my office reading the live updates every day. It was a victory for Canadian cycling and victory for clean sport.

And I was completely serious about the Canadian tylenol (aka Tylenol-1). It’s available over the counter. And yes, it does make you feel better if you’ve had too many Canadian beers (or any other kind, for that matter) the night before.

@scaler911

But if we’re going to go from bashing Canadians (which is good sport, like shooting fish in a barrel), to 90″²s “alt”, this is the greatest song EVER to listen to after a shitty breakup. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9jX1KAKp78

Perhaps, but the greatest album ever to listen to after a shitty breakup has to be Pretty Hate Machine.

Good point. I gotta go digging around in some boxes, but somewhere I have a playbill from AIC that has their original name on it when they played colleges; Alice in Fucking Chains.

But if we’re going to go from bashing Canadians (which is good sport, like shooting fish in a barrel), to 90″²s “alt”, this is the greatest song EVER to listen to after a shitty breakup. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9jX1KAKp78

Perhaps, but the greatest album ever to listen to after a shitty breakup has to be Pretty Hate Machine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9jX1KAKp78

Any discussion of 90″²s alternative lyricism also has to include Billy Corgan. I know he’s a class-A douchebag (and a wingnut, besides), but so many of his lyrics are simply poetry. My VMH has a degree in creative writing, and she used to call him her soul-mate.

I really have a love hate thing with the Pumpkins. Their albums are all, for the most part, fantastic, but getting past the overwhelming ass-hattery, super ego driven dickishness that is Corgan when he opens his pie hole to do anything other than sing, is tough.

@Nate

@Marcus
I’d advise you to have the dermotologist check that chip on your shoulder for pre-cancerous moles and melanomas.

Nicely played.

@sgt, @Steampunk, @Marko
Jack Black kicks ass. Trey is fantastic, of course, not sure which Matt you’re talking about.

And fuck Spoonman. That whole album, aside from a few great tracks, is the low point of Soundgarden musically. I’m talking about Slaves and Bulldozers. Loud Love. Burden in my Hand. Rusty Cage might be the top of the heap. Its raining ice picks on your steel shore. FUCK YEAH, it is.

Johnny Cash’s rendition of Rusty Cage is simply awesome. I like it better than the original. he takes an already great song and turns it into an apocalyptic anthem.

@frank

@ten B

@frank

@Marko
I had assumed you were going in this direction, considering CVV is actually American.

Again, how this turned into Canada-slagging is a delightful surprise.

How soon some forget the Liberation. Ontevreden! Schandalig!

Don’t even start me on the Dutch influence on American culture. The Boss? Yes, comes from the Dutch word for manager, “baas”. Yankee? Comes from the Dutch name “Jan Kees”. The list goes on and on and on. This place would be nothing without the Dutch colony at New Amsterdam.

You’re welcome.

And tulips. Don’t forget the tulips. The Dutch based their entire economy around them in the 17th century””the first economic bubble (which Americans promptly inherited, too: love of economic bubbles). Now, that’s fucked up (the tulip mania stuff).

I thought you’d be smarter than to believe the myth about the tulip crisis being caused by a guy biting into a tulip bulb and hating the taste.

Interesting note; most of the Tulips in Dutchland are actually from the Skagit Valley.

@RedRanger
Peter Stuijvesant, yes. Also a pack of sigs, and The Edge bought his guitar in a store named after him. Wall Street is named for the city wall. Brooklyn, the Bronx, all those neighborhoods are the names of the original Dutch settlers.

The Dutch East India trading company really mistreated all the settlers, so when the English invaded and told them they could just keep living however they wanted to without interference, the Dutch being as pragmatic as they are, did the math on fighting and getting killed for a company they hated or not dying and being able to keep kicking ass. They chose the latter.

@frank

@snoov

I once mentioned (jokingly) to a guy on a chairlift at Big White that we Scots think of Canada as a province of ours. He didn’t like it at all and asked me why it was the case. I asked him if he knew that many of the place names were Scottish for example Banff. “How do you know the Scottish one wasn’t named after the Canadian one?” he queried. “Well ours has been there for much longer. I doubt if a place like Kicking Horse is ours though.” Turns out though that a Scottish surgeon in a group looking for a railway route had been kicked in the chest by his horse during the expedition and that’s where the name came from. I wonder if he checked it online that night like I did.

Brilliant. The second you said Kicking Horse, I thought that has to be part of the training in the Scottish Marshal Art of “Fook Yu!”. Too classy for punching bags, you just go around kicking horse.

Brilliant, I love you crazy fucking Scots. So yes, Thank You.

Crazy?

Us?

Wibble.

Mr Engine, when you say “Wibble” it makes me think I might know you. “Wibble” was the battle cry of Team Alien Space Cadet Banana (TASCB) and I thought they made it up. They were a skateboard crew from Dundee, I was a founding member of Dundee Hardcore Skate Squad (DHSS) and have now been skating for over 25 years. Yes I’ve met Tony Hawk and I even skated with Jay Adams at the Kailua skatepark on O’ahu (to be honest we were skating the park at the same time and he maybe grunted in my direction once or twice, seriously grumpy guy). If you ever skated in Scotland especially in the 90s we might have met.

@ten B

@frank

@Marko
I had assumed you were going in this direction, considering CVV is actually American.

Again, how this turned into Canada-slagging is a delightful surprise.

How soon some forget the Liberation. Ontevreden! Schandalig!

Don’t even start me on the Dutch influence on American culture. The Boss? Yes, comes from the Dutch word for manager, “baas”. Yankee? Comes from the Dutch name “Jan Kees”. The list goes on and on and on. This place would be nothing without the Dutch colony at New Amsterdam.

You’re welcome.

And tulips. Don’t forget the tulips. The Dutch based their entire economy around them in the 17th century””the first economic bubble (which Americans promptly inherited, too: love of economic bubbles). Now, that’s fucked up (the tulip mania stuff).

I would name Chris Cornell as the best modern lyricist.

Chris Cornell? Really? Bah!

Sadly, I don’t really have much of an answer to that as I’m not so much moved by lyrics alone as I am by music as a whole. Lately, I’ve been listening to Disco, so there’s no accounting for taste OR depth on my part.

@Nate

@Marcus
I’d advise you to have the dermotologist check that chip on your shoulder for pre-cancerous moles and melanomas.

Nicely played.

@sgt, @Steampunk, @Marko
Jack Black kicks ass. Trey is fantastic, of course, not sure which Matt you’re talking about.

And fuck Spoonman. That whole album, aside from a few great tracks, is the low point of Soundgarden musically. I’m talking about Slaves and Bulldozers. Loud Love. Burden in my Hand. Rusty Cage might be the top of the heap. Its raining ice picks on your steel shore. FUCK YEAH, it is.

Gun from Louder Than Love. And Room a Thousand Years Wide.

@Marcus
I’d advise you to have the dermotologist check that chip on your shoulder for pre-cancerous moles and melanomas.

Nicely played.

@sgt, @Steampunk, @Marko
Jack Black kicks ass. Trey is fantastic, of course, not sure which Matt you’re talking about.

And fuck Spoonman. That whole album, aside from a few great tracks, is the low point of Soundgarden musically. I’m talking about Slaves and Bulldozers. Loud Love. Burden in my Hand. Rusty Cage might be the top of the heap. Its raining ice picks on your steel shore. FUCK YEAH, it is.

@frank

@Marko
I had assumed you were going in this direction, considering CVV is actually American.

Again, how this turned into Canada-slagging is a delightful surprise.

How soon some forget the Liberation. Ontevreden! Schandalig!

Don’t even start me on the Dutch influence on American culture. The Boss? Yes, comes from the Dutch word for manager, “baas”. Yankee? Comes from the Dutch name “Jan Kees”. The list goes on and on and on. This place would be nothing without the Dutch colony at New Amsterdam.

You’re welcome.

@Nate
Shut the fuck up about sun bitches. Whilst I may wrongly speak of Australia being the best at anything there is no doubt that this country is the world capital of skin cancer.

@frank
@Steampunk
@marko
My money’s on Jack Black. Or Matt And Trey.

Agreed. Tribute is a way better crafted song than Spoonman. It rocks harder as well. Doesn’t anybody remember Satan?

I would name Chris Cornell as the best modern lyricist.

Fuck: seriously? You do need to crawl out of your cave a little more frequently…

@Marko
I had assumed you were going in this direction, considering CVV is actually American.

Again, how this turned into Canada-slagging is a delightful surprise.

How soon some forget the Liberation. Ontevreden! Schandalig!

@snoov

I once mentioned (jokingly) to a guy on a chairlift at Big White that we Scots think of Canada as a province of ours. He didn’t like it at all and asked me why it was the case. I asked him if he knew that many of the place names were Scottish for example Banff. “How do you know the Scottish one wasn’t named after the Canadian one?” he queried. “Well ours has been there for much longer. I doubt if a place like Kicking Horse is ours though.” Turns out though that a Scottish surgeon in a group looking for a railway route had been kicked in the chest by his horse during the expedition and that’s where the name came from. I wonder if he checked it online that night like I did.

Brilliant. The second you said Kicking Horse, I thought that has to be part of the training in the Scottish Marshal Art of “Fook Yu!”. Too classy for punching bags, you just go around kicking horse.

Brilliant, I love you crazy fucking Scots. So yes, Thank You.

Crazy?

Us?

Wibble.

I thought this little morsel belonged on this thread.:“Dull and Boring to Hook Up”
I’ll be in Cascadia next week, may Merckx have mercy on me…

I crashed badly near Dull on a training ride a few years back – just thought you should all know.

@sgt
Oh yeah, you’ll be all set then.

@frank
Has Cornell got blood on his shirt?

From eating a bug, Jens-Style. But he couldn’t do a small rodent like Jens will during the Tour.

@sgt
Are you bringing those? Spoke with Saul today and I’ll grab the bike early next week and you can just meet me at my house. Methinks it will be easier.

Of the Neil Pert era, though, I have to say The Trees is a good track. There are some others, but majority is bullox. (Did I get that right? Bullox not ballocks?)

Ditto on the Chris Cornell comment too. Pure genius.

@snoov
No kidding about the Scots. Note a previous post of mine on Fort Garry ale. Named by a Scot after a Scot fort named after a Scot. Oh yeah, first regiment I served in – Scottish. Anybody that can enjoy haggis and neeps has got to be tough.

@Xyverz
Its not the content, mind you – I’ve read every Ayn Rand book I’ve been able to get my hands on, though I might upset the apple cart by saying that Anthem is the best of her works (I also am not an Objectivist nor do I agree with a lot of what she says) – its the blatancy of the lyricism. It fits with his drumming style, though. All very precise, with little error. I like a lyric with some mysticism, one that leaves a little to the imagination to say, “I wonder what they meant my that.” I would name Chris Cornell as the best modern lyricist.

@Marko

Which I suppose is Canadian in and of itself. Think about being offended then be reminded you’re a doormat and laugh at yourself.

This also draws into sharp relief the fact that Minnesota, by and large, is more Canadian than it is American. But without the good health care. And with much better beer.

You’ve obviously not had Fort Garry Pale Ale…

@pistard & @mouse:
I’ll drink to that. Although I now live three time zones to the east, I’m a fervent Cascadian. No finer place on the planet.

@minion
Here’s a little lesson about Canadia.

@Tobin
I’m coming to terms with the fact that Canuck mediocrity is the last vestige of my youth. If they actually won the Stanley Cup, I don’t know what I’d do. Maybe I’d start cheering for the Norwegian hockey team or something. But even that sounds a bit crazy…

Nice. I am a huge fan of the American News outlet, The Onion. It expalins to me the insanity of American politics.

Last time I was in the US, I was a store that had over 25 different types of Coke. It was awesome.

@Xyverz

Neil is an absolute master at maintaining tempo. Johnny was great for raw energy, but I’m still a Neil fan.

Neil is too fucking precise. Too much machine, not enough man. And, yes, Neil, we get it, you read Ayn Rand. Time to move away from the subject and write a song about fucking and self-loathing like all the other respectable bands.

I don’t think a “looser” drummer would fit in Rush.

@Nate
LOL! We have some of the same up here, Nate. That and a good Training Wind most of the time.

@versio
WIN!

@Xyverz

Neil is an absolute master at maintaining tempo. Johnny was great for raw energy, but I’m still a Neil fan.

Neil is too fucking precise. Too much machine, not enough man. And, yes, Neil, we get it, you read Ayn Rand. Time to move away from the subject and write a song about fucking and self-loathing like all the other respectable bands.

Wearing your idiot fez perfectly.

I thought this little morsel belonged on this thread.:“Dull and Boring to Hook Up”
I’ll be in Cascadia next week, may Merckx have mercy on me…

Proper Rule #9 weather ripping through the territory, mate. Cold too. You’ll love it, you big SoCal pussy.

@Dan O

I tortured the family with Rush 2112 during breakfast a few weeks ago. Funny enough, the kids asked for a replay during dinner. “Attention all planets of the solar federation. We have assumed control”…

I’m coming back from laziness also, my lamest winter since, uh, last winter. Is it June already?

A few days a week of road and single track, climbing out of the hole. A 24 hour mountain bike race over Memorial Day weekend to really kick things off. Let the season begin…

Its OK Dan O, we can pretend like its still winter and get some good winter training in. Haven’t you been outside today? Merckx-oh-me.

I once mentioned (jokingly) to a guy on a chairlift at Big White that we Scots think of Canada as a province of ours. He didn’t like it at all and asked me why it was the case. I asked him if he knew that many of the place names were Scottish for example Banff. “How do you know the Scottish one wasn’t named after the Canadian one?” he queried. “Well ours has been there for much longer. I doubt if a place like Kicking Horse is ours though.” Turns out though that a Scottish surgeon in a group looking for a railway route had been kicked in the chest by his horse during the expedition and that’s where the name came from. I wonder if he checked it online that night like I did.

Brilliant. The second you said Kicking Horse, I thought that has to be part of the training in the Scottish Marshal Art of “Fook Yu!”. Too classy for punching bags, you just go around kicking horse.

Brilliant, I love you crazy fucking Scots. So yes, Thank You.

Wiggo put how much into Good Cuddles today? wow.

Wow. 1:43, and – almost more impressively – 34 seconds into Martin. Smokin’, though with the 2 minute time penalty for wearing all-yellow bibs (when is that UCI Rule going to get implemented?) he’d be out of the running.

Neil is an absolute master at maintaining tempo. Johnny was great for raw energy, but I’m still a Neil fan.

Neil is too fucking precise. Too much machine, not enough man. And, yes, Neil, we get it, you read Ayn Rand. Time to move away from the subject and write a song about fucking and self-loathing like all the other respectable bands.

@Ron
If you want to stop better than you’ve ever stopped before, put these on your cross bike: TRP Brakes

After much debating, just bought these. That’s quite the ringing endorsement. Hoping to find out for sure when I put them on this weekend.

I’m coming back from laziness also, my lamest winter since, uh, last winter. Is it June already?

A few days a week of road and single track, climbing out of the hole. A 24 hour mountain bike race over Memorial Day weekend to really kick things off. Let the season begin…

I once mentioned (jokingly) to a guy on a chairlift at Big White that we Scots think of Canada as a province of ours. He didn’t like it at all and asked me why it was the case. I asked him if he knew that many of the place names were Scottish for example Banff. “How do you know the Scottish one wasn’t named after the Canadian one?” he queried. “Well ours has been there for much longer. I doubt if a place like Kicking Horse is ours though.” Turns out though that a Scottish surgeon in a group looking for a railway route had been kicked in the chest by his horse during the expedition and that’s where the name came from. I wonder if he checked it online that night like I did.

Oh, and we invented the modern bicycle too. You’re all welcome.

Please bear in mind Rule #5a.

@frank
Neil is an absolute master at maintaining tempo. Johnny was great for raw energy, but I’m still a Neil fan.

Oh, and that’s what Alex looked like before he got bald and fat? ;-)

And, I might add, that that music totally kicked ass.

@Steampunk

@Xyverz
Not sure I use any of those either. Most of us speak the Queen’s English. Which is as it should be.

Yeah, I thought that too, until I moved to Oz and found out that using z instead of s in words that end with ‘ise’ is an Americanisation of the language.

I’ve been living in the US for 30+ years, and I *still* spell shit with the ‘ise’… My spell-checkers hate it.

I’ve got no dog in this fight, apart from this;
Amercia, Amercia…

Don’t even get me started on Romney. That tosser thinks that he stands for what the founding fathers of the US stood for. In reality, he’s pretty much looking to turn the clock back a few dozen decades…

Again, how this turned into Canada-slagging is a delightful surprise.

Which I suppose is Canadian in and of itself. Think about being offended then be reminded you’re a doormat and laugh at yourself.

This also draws into sharp relief the fact that Minnesota, by and large, is more Canadian than it is American. But without the good health care. And with much better beer.

Quite ironic that you’re slagging Canada considering tha Seattle is an outer suburb of Vancouver, isn’t it?
You’r more Canadian than you think.

Spoken like a true Aussie, or whatever you are. Canada is actually a suburb of two towns: Seattle and NYC.

This what I’m learning at the moment, the sort of times I’m clocking up climbs it would appear that over 7 weeks I’ve lost the equivalent of a year in terms of performance, not to mention a butt load of confidence going back down said hills…

After the 2004 presidential election in the states I spent much time on marryacanadian.com trolling for new citizenshi…er a new bride. I can also see Canada from my house (well, if I get into a canoe and paddle for a couple hours) so all this Canada slagging makes me think about being offended. Which I suppose is Canadian in and of itself. Think about being offended then be reminded you’re a doormat and laugh at yourself.

CvV is certainly the workingman’s velominatus. Sort of like Hincapie but with even less realized potential. This one goes out to you CvV – courtesy of Canada:

I get up at seven, yeah,
And I go to work at nine.
I got no time for livin’.
Yes, I’m workin’ all the time.

It seems to me
I could live my life
A lot better than I think I am.
I guess that’s why they call me,
They call me the workin’ man.

They call me the workin’ man.
I guess that’s what I am.
So I get home at five o’clock,
And I take myself out a nice, cold beer.
Always seem to be wond’rin’
Why there’s nothin’ goin’ down here.

It seems to me
I could live my life
A lot better than I think I am.
I guess that’s why they call me,
They call me the workin’ man.

They call me the workin’ man.
I guess that’s what I am.

Well they call me the workin’ man.
I guess that’s what I am.

@minion
Here’s a little lesson about Canadia.

@Tobin
I’m coming to terms with the fact that Canuck mediocrity is the last vestige of my youth. If they actually won the Stanley Cup, I don’t know what I’d do. Maybe I’d start cheering for the Norwegian hockey team or something. But even that sounds a bit crazy…

@Xyverz
Not sure I use any of those either. Most of us speak the Queen’s English. Which is as it should be.

Yeah, I thought that too, until I moved to Oz and found out that using z instead of s in words that end with ‘ise’ is an Americanisation of the language.

@mouse

It’s all Cascadia.

True that.
Cascadia really is a differenct country from either Romney’s “Amercia” or the rest of Canada.

It’s all Cascadia.

And Kokanee comes out of the same InBev pipeline as Bud. Here’s some real Canadian/Cascadian beer: http://phillipsbeer.com/home

They’ve done some decent Belgian-style doubles and triples. Not quite Gulden Draak but I can take my 2L jug back for a $10 refill…

Oh, by the way, we’re on top.

@Peter

No better gift from Canada than a bottle of Canadian tylenol.

Is that the cure for drinking Canadian beer?

How did this turn into Canadian slagging? Not that I’m complaining – work out quite nicely, really. Just wondering.

Quite ironic that you’re slagging Canada considering tha Seattle is an outer suburb of Vancouver, isn’t it?
You’r more Canadian than you think.

@Peter

No better gift from Canada than a bottle of Canadian tylenol.

Is that the cure for drinking Canadian beer?

How did this turn into Canadian slagging? Not that I’m complaining – work out quite nicely, really. Just wondering.

That shit isn’t even really beer. And the really horrible thing is it’s like $90 a six pack. I do however like the warnings on cig packs up there.
AC&C is a good cure for a night out on Granville though.

@frank
The magic potions are called socialized health care.

Understand I have no gripe with Norway or the Norwegians. It’s one of my favourite places to visit and a country that, simply, works. But cheering for the Norwegian hockey team is just silly. You might as well just mix your kits and wear blue knee-high socks on the bike.

You talking about this place?

You lot are silly. Canada’s not a real place, it’s like Hogwarts or Narnia, without the trip through the closet to get there.

Thats the one right there. I heard they had magic potions that, once you drink it, it makes Canada feel like a real place.

@Steampunk
I should mention the VMH is part Norwegian.

You lot are silly. Canada’s not a real place, it’s like Hogwarts or Narnia, without the trip through the closet to get there.

No better gift from Canada than a bottle of Canadian tylenol.

Is that the cure for drinking Canadian beer?

How did this turn into Canadian slagging? Not that I’m complaining – work out quite nicely, really. Just wondering.

@Cyclops

@All

Just trying to keep Fronk on his toes.

Right back at ya buddy:

Didn’t know you were at the Giro…….

Those slingshots are like nudist beaches. Its never the well-manicured hot people that venture into those realms. Its always the ones who shouldn’t.

@Steampunk

@Tobin
1. Are the Blue Jackets even still in the NHL?
2. Knutsen hasn’t played in the NHL since 2004.
3. Diamond Jubilee? This is more important.

Excuse me, WHAT?

Where’s Marcus and Minion, we need some civilization around here.

And, not to state the obvious, but I mean to say that by comparison, we’ll all seem civilized once those two get going.

Why the fuck would anybody cheer for the Norwegian hockey team? Speed skating: absolutely. Skiing: sure. But hockey?? Cheer for the Swedes at hockey: perfectly acceptable (Vancouver has been overpaying Swedes for more than ten years), but Norway? I can’t imagine there would have been much to cheer for.

Simple: they were playing the Canadians. Elementary, my dear Watson.

@All

Just trying to keep Fronk on his toes.

Right back at ya buddy:

Didn’t know you were at the Giro…….

@Nate
Norway? Seriously? I just don’t get that. I’m struggling to think of a single Norwegian in the NHL…

Canadian humour (nice use of the “u,” by the way) vs. South Park? Yep: you guys are edgy. Base common denominator is edgy stuff.