The Bikes

The Bike. It is the central tool in pursuit of our craft. A Velominatus meticulously maintains their bicycles and adorns them with the essential, yet minimal, accoutrement. The Rules specify the principles of good taste in configuration and setup of our machines, but within those principles lies almost infinite room for personal taste.

It seems in some ways like a kind of Stockholm Syndrome, the way we honor our machines. We love them to a point that lies well beyond obsession. Upon these machines upon we endure endless suffering, but also find an unending pleasure. The rhythm, the harmony between rider and machine, the outdoors, the wind in our faces and air in our lungs.

The Bikes is devoted entirely to our machines. Ours, The Keepers, and yours, the Community. It features articles devoted to our bikes, and proves a forum for uploading photos of your own machines for discussion. We will be harsh, but fair; this is a place to enforce and enhance our observation of The Rules.

If you’d like to submit an article about your own beloved bike, please feel free to send it to us and we’ll do our best to work with you to include it.

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15,871 Replies to “The Bikes”

  1. @ChrisO

    I would have posted this in the recent discussion about electronic gears but IIRC photos weren’t uploading, so it might as well go in the Bikes.

    My daughter, Lillian, has been doing a bit of track cycling (her school is near Herne Hill velodrome) but she had to take a break because she had some joint problems, basically just hyper-mobility or growing pains as I believe we used to call them. She’s just turned 14.

    Anyway to help her get back into it we bought her a road bike so she can build up a bit before getting back into track work.

    It’s a 2012 Ridley Excalibur, fit to be seen now I’ve corrected the stem angle from the previous owner, complete with Di2. Pretty good deal for 700 quid I thought.

    She tried it a couple of times on the turbo to get used to it (plus having gears and clipless pedals). This was our first real outing, to Richmond Park last weekend. I was trying to teach her the meaning of tranquilo.

    And while she hasn’t got the stamina yet she sure as hell as the power-to-weight ratio nailed. I was having to do 400 watts to stay with her on the short climbs.

    Actually, now that I think about it, I’m not sure if my winter Roberts has been seen on these pages, probably because it stayed in London while I was in Dubai. So, double bike post.

    that’s really something!  great photo!

  2. @ChrisO

    90″ for 50 x 15 may not be mathematically perfect due to the variations in exact wheel circumference, but Sheldon’s chart is the universally and historically accepted one for comparative and practical discussion purposes.

     

    Crank length has no bearing on it, as the bicycle still travels the same distance for one revolution of the cranks in a given gear, no matter how long or short the lever is.

  3. @ChrisO

    !!!! Gotta love it. Lucky dad !!! Cheers

    My daughter just turned 13. And this weekend for the CX races I set back her mtn bike saddle all the way on the post and swapped stems. All to try and salvage a few more months on a bike that’ll need upsized very soon. My prospect for 2017 is n+3 due to her sprouting up… Talk about growing pains ! Where does that leave my n+??? Dang.

    At a recent coach’s seminar we had a pediatric orthopedic doc talk to us about kid’s physiology as relates to bikes and fit. At issue is when they sprout, and femurs grow, their hamstrings are well stretched before they catch up with the bones. So, when on a bike, rolling the pelvis forward to get that nice flat back becomes an issue. Hence, the way we normally look at bike fit can be a lot different when working with growing kids. This coming Sunday we have our first intro practice for our local Mtn Bike team and I’m gonna be looking at the student athletes and their bikes and fit differently than I have in past years. And we’re going to be implementing much more core strength and conditioning training over the winter vs just the usual indoor spinning we’ve done in past.

     

  4. @Dean C

    @RobSandy

    Hahaha- now it becomes even more of a slippery slope.

    I am NO expert, but I will say this, have someone take a few pictures of you riding by in the velodrome at speed- you will be thinking to yourself “man-I am one streamlined mother-F’er, totally aerodynamic” then you will look at your pictures….and they will not lie. My best advise, talk to yourself like a crazy person about keeping as small and low as you can for only the few minutes you will be suffering.

    I can totally imagine that. I have no idea what my event will be, still too early days, so I think I’m best keeping a mid-range gear on to learn with.

    Tell me if this sounds ridiculous – the Welsh Track Championships are in January and I’m thinking of entering the sprint events. My coach mentioned it on Friday. What do I have to lose?

    Dude- you have NOTHING to lose and EVERYTHING to gain.

    Go for it!

    My first race was the US Masters Track Nationals….I still think my ass hurts from the kicking it took, I did “ok”, but the most important part was I had fun, learned a shit-ton; about racing, myself, the bike, gearing how races are held…the whole 9 yards. Oh and somehow I survived and didn’t cause a wreck.

    You have a few months to work out your gears and what events you are going to focus on- go and have fun and use it as a learning experience, you will have a great time.

    Masters Natz this year( or which one?) What age group are you in? I have done Old Guy Natz for the past 9 years( save for last year when I went to Elite Natz).

  5. @ChrisO

     

     

    Just Super Super Super!  This is what it is all about now in my life and I would not change it for the world.

    When I was younger and sans kiddos, it was all about me and my times and how fast could I go.

    Now I cannot even begin to explain how much joy I get out of my kids athletics and experiences.

    Great photo!

  6. @chris

    @KogaLover

    Quantity Surveyor. We manage the cost on construction projects. Or in other words tell you how much the architect has blown your budget by.

    Except that I don’t, I try to avoid all of that and wait till you want to take the architect to court for blowing the budget at which point I’ll give the court my unbiased, independent view on how badly it was blown.

    In the states there isn’t such a role. The Architect blows the budget then tells the client that it was the contractor’s fault.

    A developer asks an accountant, and architect and a quantity surveyor for some advice. He invites each into his office in turn. First he asks the accountant “what’s 2 + 2?”.

    “4!” replies the account quickly.

    Next he asks the architect “what’s 2 + 2?”

    “I don’t know,” he answers, “What colour are the numbers?”

    Last he asks the QS “What’s 2 + 2?”

    The QS gets up, shuts the door, then comes back and leans across the desk.

    “What would you like 2 + 2 to be?” he answers.

  7. @Haldy

    @Dean C

    Masters Natz this year( or which one?) What age group are you in? I have done Old Guy Natz for the past 9 years( save for last year when I went to Elite Natz).

    I’m 35 so I’m just in the seniors. I’m thinking if I compete in anything it’s likely to be the kilo. I’m a sprinter and time triallist so it should suit me. And as I don’t have that much track experience it’s probably ideal as I wont crash into anyone.

     

  8. @Randy C

    @ChrisO

    !!!! Gotta love it. Lucky dad !!! Cheers

    My daughter just turned 13. And this weekend for the CX races I set back her mtn bike saddle all the way on the post and swapped stems. All to try and salvage a few more months on a bike that’ll need upsized very soon. My prospect for 2017 is n+3 due to her sprouting up… Talk about growing pains ! Where does that leave my n+??? Dang.

    At a recent coach’s seminar we had a pediatric orthopedic doc talk to us about kid’s physiology as relates to bikes and fit. At issue is when they sprout, and femurs grow, their hamstrings are well stretched before they catch up with the bones. So, when on a bike, rolling the pelvis forward to get that nice flat back becomes an issue. Hence, the way we normally look at bike fit can be a lot different when working with growing kids. This coming Sunday we have our first intro practice for our local Mtn Bike team and I’m gonna be looking at the student athletes and their bikes and fit differently than I have in past years. And we’re going to be implementing much more core strength and conditioning training over the winter vs just the usual indoor spinning we’ve done in past.

    For sure, just getting her a bike was such a minefield. She’s 168cm but her inside leg is half that height, and her armspan is 172cm. Depending on which chart you look at she could be anything from small medium to large. And she’s still probably got two years of growing.

    She’s been doing some core work and other exercises to help with the hyper-mobility, but it took a long time to confirm that. Her main activity is horse-riding (the one thing she wouldn’t stop doing) so that helps her core a lot anyway and I guess it activates glutes as well.

  9. @chris

    Since we were speaking about formulae, I had a hunch that QS could be Quantitative Scientist. In my world of professional activity, QS stands for Quota Share btw.

    @Oli

    But 90inch is not the distance travelled with 1 pedal stroke; that’s 278 inch of 7.08m. Hence “90” says nothing. Could as well have been the answer to “what’s the temperature outside?” “It’s a yellow Tuesday”.

    @RobSandy

    Your joke is spot on here, dudes making up numbers which no-one understands or makes sense of.

  10. @KogaLover

    @chris

    Since we were speaking about formulae, I had a hunch that QS could be Quantitative Scientist. In my world of professional activity, QS stands for Quota Share btw.

    I’m a Quantity Surveyor by training and job title, but at the moment I’m a commercial manager. It’s similar apart from everyone hates you.

    @Oli

    But 90inch is not the distance travelled with 1 pedal stroke; that’s 278 inch of 7.08m. Hence “90” says nothing. Could as well have been the answer to “what’s the temperature outside?” “It’s a yellow Tuesday”.

    @RobSandy

    Your joke is spot on here, dudes making up numbers which no-one understands or makes sense of.

    Gear inches refers to the nominal diameter of the wheel based on a particular gearing, Penny Farthing style.

     

  11. @RobSandy

     

    The QS gets up, shuts the door, then comes back and leans across the desk.

    “What would you like 2 + 2 to be?” he answers.

    @RobSandy

    I’m a Quantity Surveyor by training and job title, but at the moment I’m a commercial manager. It’s similar apart from everyone hates you.

    And there was me thinking you might be a contractor’s QS.

  12. @RobSandy

    Ahh…the Killermeter….I used to specialize in that back in the days of my youth. I have gone down the endurance path now, and the Madison and Team Pursuit are my favorite events.

  13. @Haldy

    @RobSandy

    Ahh…the Killermeter….I used to specialize in that back in the days of my youth. I have gone down the endurance path now, and the Madison and Team Pursuit are my favorite events.

    I don’t know that I’ll be any good at it, but it seems a good place to start.

    Any tips?

  14. @RobSandy

    @Haldy

    @RobSandy

    Ahh…the Killermeter….I used to specialize in that back in the days of my youth. I have gone down the endurance path now, and the Madison and Team Pursuit are my favorite events.

    I don’t know that I’ll be any good at it, but it seems a good place to start.

    Any tips?

    Start hitting the weight room! The Kilo along with the match sprint is the realm of the monster quads! The kilo is all about starting out of the gates….and going FULL TILT until you die…then you still have 200m to go…lol

    Here is a great vid of Francois Pervis in 2013. THe start out of the gate is as about as perfect as possible.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt8lDyKMKsY

  15. @Haldy

    @RobSandy

    Ahh…the Killermeter….I used to specialize in that back in the days of my youth. I have gone down the endurance path now, and the Madison and Team Pursuit are my favorite events.

    me too.  nothing i’ve ever done in my life has hurt worse than a bad kilo.

  16. @KogaLover

    I am well aware gear inches is a somewhat arcane “measurement”, and I never claimed it was accurate, but it’s by far the most common way for English-speaking riders to express their gearing in a common language – if a rider says to another he has an 86″ gear everyone knows what he means and can compare their gearing on those terms.

     

    Roll-out/development probably should be in more common use and I’m sure it will be eventually, but old habits die hard.

  17. @Haldy

    Oh, that was a BRILLIANT video!  I had never watched a 1 k before.

    Just awesome and it was great to see that his thighs did not look like they had come out of an East German lab, either!

  18. @Buck Rogers

    @Haldy

    Oh, that was a BRILLIANT video! I had never watched a 1 k before.

    Just awesome and it was great to see that his thighs did not look like they had come out of an East German lab, either!

    check out Florian Rousseau and Erin Hartwell, too.  Rousseau basically upended the entire sprint discipline in the ’90s, and Erin Hartwell had a LONG kilo career for team USA.  i think they’re awesome.

  19. @Cary

     

    @Buck Rogers

    @Haldy

    Oh, that was a BRILLIANT video! I had never watched a 1 k before.

    Just awesome and it was great to see that his thighs did not look like they had come out of an East German lab, either!

    check out Florian Rousseau and Erin Hartwell, too. Rousseau basically upended the entire sprint discipline in the ’90s, and Erin Hartwell had a LONG kilo career for team USA. i think they’re awesome.

    Having ridden intervals of that length and planning to possibly race over that distance, the pain and suffering for the whole last lap is palpable.

    I enjoy watching how those guys can channel such awesome strength and power into a minute of complete smooth focussed riding.

  20. I like Rousseau because, as late as 1995, he was turning 1:03 kilos, sans tribars.  he was not a great big guy, either, he just had MAD explosiveness.  i like Hartwell because NOBODY of his era was faster over the last 250m.

    such a demanding discipline.  very fascinating.

  21. Well I’m no mathematical genius or anything, but I have 50×15 at 88.18″ on a 25c tyre, and 87.68″ on a 23c.

  22. @DVMR

    Well I’m no mathematical genius or anything, but I have 50×15 at 88.18″ on a 25c tyre, and 87.68″ on a 23c.

    I agree with this guy.

  23. @Oli

    @KogaLover

    I am well aware gear inches is a somewhat arcane “measurement”, and I never claimed it was accurate, but it’s by far the most common way for English-speaking riders to express their gearing in a common language – if a rider says to another he has an 86″ gear everyone knows what he means and can compare their gearing on those terms.

    Roll-out/development probably should be in more common use and I’m sure it will be eventually, but old habits die hard.

    I think the point about crank length BTW was that it doesn’t make a difference to the gear inches (or development) but it does make a difference to the overall gearing.

     

     

  24. @Haldy

    @RobSandy

    @Haldy

    @RobSandy

    Ahh…the Killermeter….I used to specialize in that back in the days of my youth. I have gone down the endurance path now, and the Madison and Team Pursuit are my favorite events.

    I don’t know that I’ll be any good at it, but it seems a good place to start.

    Any tips?

    Start hitting the weight room! The Kilo along with the match sprint is the realm of the monster quads! The kilo is all about starting out of the gates….and going FULL TILT until you die…then you still have 200m to go…lol

    Here is a great vid of Francois Pervis in 2013. THe start out of the gate is as about as perfect as possible.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt8lDyKMKsY

    Was hoping Haldy and a few others with much more Velodrome experience would pop in on this thread.

    One thing I have learned from my limited time there is don’t paint yourself into “I have to get a 1:15 or less or else” there are so many factors that can slow down or speed up everyone’s times for a given day.

    Are you racing on a 333 or 250? What is your local training track? 250 or 333 concrete or wood, inside or outdoors?

    What might be a “fast” time at one track might be “so-so” at another for a 1K and all other ITTs and pursuits.

    No matter what or how you train your last lap will a sufferfest, you will look down swearing one of your tires is half flat.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki2re9uILtc

    “Standing Start (2009): A unique insight into a champion’s adrenaline and drive as he trains for the Olympics. Maclean’s heroic cycling is set against the story of Odysseus, creating a heart-stoppingly rich portrayal of man.”

    Don’t get too wrapped up in gear/inches bla bla bla; know what works for you- not the other guy. Teams and other riders go to the trouble of grinding the tooth-count numbers off their cogs and rings so nobody else can see what they are riding, so if you ask a local, chances are you will not get a spot-on answer- even to what the locals recommend for tire pressures for “their” track surface.

    For crank lengths, some tracks do not allow any longer than 170 due to rider safety(bank degrees vs. pedal strike). For others its leverage vs. rotation speed.

     

    Take care

     

     

     

     

  25. @Dean C

    @Haldy

    @RobSandy

    @Haldy

    @RobSandy

    Ahh…the Killermeter….I used to specialize in that back in the days of my youth. I have gone down the endurance path now, and the Madison and Team Pursuit are my favorite events.

    I don’t know that I’ll be any good at it, but it seems a good place to start.

    Any tips?

    Start hitting the weight room! The Kilo along with the match sprint is the realm of the monster quads! The kilo is all about starting out of the gates….and going FULL TILT until you die…then you still have 200m to go…lol

    Here is a great vid of Francois Pervis in 2013. THe start out of the gate is as about as perfect as possible.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt8lDyKMKsY

    Was hoping Haldy and a few others with much more Velodrome experience would pop in on this thread.

    One thing I have learned from my limited time there is don’t paint yourself into “I have to get a 1:15 or less or else” there are so many factors that can slow down or speed up everyone’s times for a given day.

    Are you racing on a 333 or 250? What is your local training track? 250 or 333 concrete or wood, inside or outdoors?

    What might be a “fast” time at one track might be “so-so” at another for a 1K and all other ITTs and pursuits.

    No matter what or how you train your last lap will a sufferfest, you will look down swearing one of your tires is half flat.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki2re9uILtc

    “Standing Start (2009): A unique insight into a champion’s adrenaline and drive as he trains for the Olympics. Maclean’s heroic cycling is set against the story of Odysseus, creating a heart-stoppingly rich portrayal of man.”

    Don’t get too wrapped up in gear/inches bla bla bla; know what works for you- not the other guy. Teams and other riders go to the trouble of grinding the tooth-count numbers off their cogs and rings so nobody else can see what they are riding, so if you ask a local, chances are you will not get a spot-on answer- even to what the locals recommend for tire pressures for “their” track surface.

    For crank lengths, some tracks do not allow any longer than 170 due to rider safety(bank degrees vs. pedal strike). For others its leverage vs. rotation speed.

    Take care

    Technique! That’s probably the biggest key. Learning how to do a proper standing start( it’s not as easy as it sounds..) and also learning how to sit down on a fixed gear at speed( plopping down on the saddle scrubs off speed..you have to slide back on to it) are key to doing well. Also learning how to stay glued to the black line. Time and distance are measured off the black line. The farther away you are from the black line in the turns, the more time you are giving away by traveling farther.

     

     

  26. @Haldy

    @Dean C

    @Haldy

    @RobSandy

    @Haldy

    @RobSandy

    Ahh…the Killermeter….I used to specialize in that back in the days of my youth. I have gone down the endurance path now, and the Madison and Team Pursuit are my favorite events.

    I don’t know that I’ll be any good at it, but it seems a good place to start.

    Any tips?

    Start hitting the weight room! The Kilo along with the match sprint is the realm of the monster quads! The kilo is all about starting out of the gates….and going FULL TILT until you die…then you still have 200m to go…lol

    Here is a great vid of Francois Pervis in 2013. THe start out of the gate is as about as perfect as possible.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt8lDyKMKsY

    Was hoping Haldy and a few others with much more Velodrome experience would pop in on this thread.

    One thing I have learned from my limited time there is don’t paint yourself into “I have to get a 1:15 or less or else” there are so many factors that can slow down or speed up everyone’s times for a given day.

    Are you racing on a 333 or 250? What is your local training track? 250 or 333 concrete or wood, inside or outdoors?

    What might be a “fast” time at one track might be “so-so” at another for a 1K and all other ITTs and pursuits.

    No matter what or how you train your last lap will a sufferfest, you will look down swearing one of your tires is half flat.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki2re9uILtc

    “Standing Start (2009): A unique insight into a champion’s adrenaline and drive as he trains for the Olympics. Maclean’s heroic cycling is set against the story of Odysseus, creating a heart-stoppingly rich portrayal of man.”

    Don’t get too wrapped up in gear/inches bla bla bla; know what works for you- not the other guy. Teams and other riders go to the trouble of grinding the tooth-count numbers off their cogs and rings so nobody else can see what they are riding, so if you ask a local, chances are you will not get a spot-on answer- even to what the locals recommend for tire pressures for “their” track surface.

    For crank lengths, some tracks do not allow any longer than 170 due to rider safety(bank degrees vs. pedal strike). For others its leverage vs. rotation speed.

    Take care

    Technique! That’s probably the biggest key. Learning how to do a proper standing start( it’s not as easy as it sounds..) and also learning how to sit down on a fixed gear at speed( plopping down on the saddle scrubs off speed..you have to slide back on to it) are key to doing well. Also learning how to stay glued to the black line. Time and distance are measured off the black line. The farther away you are from the black line in the turns, the more time you are giving away by traveling farther.

    Very True! I can say that I have had some very good bike “holders” at some of my standing starts and some very young inexperienced ones that have probably cost me a full second + from just miss-handling my bike during final seconds and release. But going to Nationals for your first race you should not see any of that.

    Focus on the black line like Haldy says, the more time you spend away from it and wandering up near the red line the longer “your” track just became.

    Although by the last 200 meters the black line becomes somewhat fuzzy, replaced by dancing black dots in front of my vision.

    Also if you are going with a buddy, have him “pace” you with a stopwatch:

    From training you know you are gunning for a 1:15 on a 250 meter track.

    First lap with standing start: 21 seconds

    2nd, 3rd and 4th laps- all 18 seconds or less= 75 seconds.

    Your “pacemans” job is to yell to you as you roll by if you are at , below or above your pace to reach your time.

    As you do your sprint training around your neighborhood don’t get put off if your times in the Velodrome do not match those you post at home, a 250 meter Velodrome with it’s sharp turns takes an enormous amount of speed away from you. It’s one reason many will post faster times at a 333, more gradual turns=less friction+ less of them per kilo.

     

    Take care

  27. @Dean C

    @Haldy

    Thanks for the advice chaps! My training track and the competition track are both the Newport Velodrome (where the British squad do a lot of training), so it’s a 250m wooden indoor track.

    I’m hoping my coach will give me a trial run on Friday night to see how I can do. My calculations suggest  1:15 is possible, maybe quicker. But I really don’t know. It’s probably an event that suits me as I like TTing and have some idea of pacing but I’m also a decent sprinter; I naturally have a strong ‘kick’ (the downsides are that on steep hills every single one of my riding partners dances away from me while looking back every now and again to check if I’ve punctured – I haven’t). Plus, I’m all in for pain and suffering.

    I think I could also set myself up with kit pretty well -I have a skinsuit on the way, got a TT helmet and I think I can knock together a track style aero cockpit (bullhorns and aerobars) from things I’ve got kicking around. Then hopefully I will have time to practice a lot – I imagine a lot of the skill is in accellerating fast up to race speed, but not overdoing it. It does intrigue me – sort of thing I can imagine becoming an obsession!

  28. @RobSandy

    Thanks for paving the way for me, sir!

    @Oli

    Roll-out/development probably should be in more common use and I’m sure it will be eventually, but old habits die hard.

    And with Brexit, they will be coming back real fast!

  29. @Haldy

    @RobSandy

    @Haldy

    @RobSandy

    Ahh…the Killermeter….I used to specialize in that back in the days of my youth. I have gone down the endurance path now, and the Madison and Team Pursuit are my favorite events.

    I don’t know that I’ll be any good at it, but it seems a good place to start.

    Any tips?

    Start hitting the weight room! The Kilo along with the match sprint is the realm of the monster quads! The kilo is all about starting out of the gates….and going FULL TILT until you die…then you still have 200m to go…lol

    Here is a great vid of Francois Pervis in 2013. THe start out of the gate is as about as perfect as possible.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt8lDyKMKsY

    That’s pretty cool. Looks like nothing but pure pain going deep. And it’s just a one minute bike ride ? Cheers

  30. @RobSandy

    My son has been going to BC coached road session on the circuit outside the Lee Valley Velodrome. It’s generally to cold to stand outside watching and they only go past every minute or thereabouts so we’ve been watching the FullGas Track League racing inside. That and your adventures and upcoming tilt at National Glory have got me thinking about getting accredited over the summer to have a crack at racing next year.

    It’s also encouraging to see that there are quite a few blokes in the C races (and even a few in the B races) who are considerably more rotund than I am.

    I’m going to need another bike…

  31. @chris

    I’m a bit frightened of mass start track racing still, hence me considering track TTing.

    The irony is, I can’t race track league because I’m not accredited, and there aren’t any accreditation courses coming up. But I can race the Welsh Track Champs without accreditation. Odd!

  32. @RobSandy

    The Cat C bunch racing looks terrifying, the Cat B slightly less so but in three weeks of watching them wobble and swerve round the track I’ve only seen two crashes and no injuries.

    If I remember correctly, you’ve been in bunch races (on a roadbike) in a velodrome before, it won’t be any worse than that.

    As the who accreditation thing, you’ve got to love the logic of the ruling bodies…

  33. @chris

    @RobSandy

    The Cat C bunch racing looks terrifying, the Cat B slightly less so but in three weeks of watching them wobble and swerve round the track I’ve only seen two crashes and no injuries.

    If I remember correctly, you’ve been in bunch races (on a roadbike) in a velodrome before, it won’t be any worse than that.

    As the who accreditation thing, you’ve got to love the logic of the ruling bodies…

    At least no-one would have brakes indoors. People who brake in crits on oval tracks should be lashed with frame pumps until they’ve really had enough.

  34.  

    @RobSandy

    Thanks for paving the way for me, sir!

     

    Didn’t get that comment.

    Anyway, here’s my track bike now with new longer seat post, longer stem, track bars and new grips.

    Kierin grips…ribbed for MY pleasure.

  35. Yay! A discussion about track.

    It’s been such a great thing to be able to race track as well as all of the other disciplines I do. Especially good when it’s pissing down outside and my normal training ride is cancelled on a Tuesday or Thursday.

    Melbourne has a really amazing track scene. Really good turnouts on both nights, both Juniors and Seniors.

    The coolest thing is racing against early teenage girls in some of the open races. (They’re fast!!)

    Anyhoo, here’s my bike set up in pursuit mode.

     

  36. @RobSandy

    @KogaLover

    Thanks for paving the way for me, sir!

    Didn’t get that comment.

    Anyway, here’s my track bike now with new longer seat post, longer stem, track bars and new grips.

    Kierin grips…ribbed for MY pleasure.

    I wanted to thank you for asking all the questions that I otherwise would be asking in a couple of months from now! So by gathering the answers, you paved the way for me.

    And on the ride, that looks sweeeet. You know blue is my favourite color. I recall you saying your bike was old, but this one looks brand new to me. Are those SPD SL Group San pedals?

  37. @KogaLover

    Ah, I getcha now. There’s so much to know – more than you’d think for a bike with no gears and no brakes that just goes round and round a wooden track. I bought a replacement chainring (49t) and discovered that despite measuring the BCD I’d got it wrong; I’d bought 144mm and need 135mm. Of course, 135mm chainrings are fucking expensive.

    If it was a better quality picture you’d see all the dings in the frame, it’s well chipped. But the wheels are lovely. And I’ve added the cockpit and seatpost/saddle, so they are new. And yeah, they are just normal SPD-SL pedals, handed down off my road bike when I upgraded to 105. I only have 1 pair of cycling shoes.

    I’m still thinking if I repainted it in matt white and put some deep section wheels on it’d look pretty modern (aero DT!), EXCEPT, the steerer is 1″ (rather then 1 1/8th”), so I can’t replace the forks.

    Looking forwards to hearing how you get on riding the boards!

  38. @RobSandy

    @RobSandy

    Thanks for paving the way for me, sir!

    Didn’t get that comment.

    Anyway, here’s my track bike now with new longer seat post, longer stem, track bars and new grips.

    Kierin grips…ribbed for MY pleasure.

    Looking good. the frame has nice geometry/proportions. And if it’s got a 1″ steerer, I would definitely be going for a quill stem, but then, I’m a total retro-head. I’m on the lookout out for a steel track frame myself. So far, the hunt has not been going so well.

  39. @DVMR

    I’m of the opposite incination – I’m a total moderniser. I think with a few changes over the next year I can make it look like a modern track bike. It already looks completely different with the track bars (had some horrid too-small ergo road bars on before).

    Also, I’m only really interested in making it go faster.

  40. @RobSandy

    Also, I’m only really interested in making it go faster.

    I always say that it’s not my bike that needs to become lighter, but me. Mutatis mutandis: it’s not your bike that needs to get faster, it’s you

  41. @RobSandy

    @RobSandy

    Thanks for paving the way for me, sir!

    Didn’t get that comment.

    Anyway, here’s my track bike now with new longer seat post, longer stem, track bars and new grips.

    Kierin grips…ribbed for MY pleasure.

    Looks nice but is riding a BC Talent Team bike not on par with wearing pro kit?

  42. @KogaLover

    @RobSandy

    Also, I’m only really interested in making it go faster.

    I always say that it’s not my bike that needs to become lighter, but me. Mutatis mutandis: it’s not your bike that needs to get faster, it’s you

    Touche.

    @chris

     

    Kierin grips…ribbed for MY pleasure.

    Looks nice but is riding a BC Talent Team bike not on par with wearing pro kit?

    You ever heard that old expression? “Nope”.

    I’m intrigued who it used to belong to though. I’ve seen an identical one on interwebs with Alex Dowsett’s name on it. Think it’s too big a frame to be any obvious candidates locally though (G, Luke Rowe).

  43. ChrisO – Damn, that is awesome. Great photo, great story. But…setting Lillian up with an e-groupsan at such an age? You are in for a world of Budgetatus pain down the line if she gets hooked!

    On another note – what is the feeling on mounting a “be seen” light light a Lezyne Strip on the fork. I prefer to keep my bars clean. Too low for motorists to adequately see? Anyone doing this currently? Thanks.

  44. @Steve T

    Love your machine! Are those 28 or 26 mm tires — interested to know the gap or brake reach on that fork and rear bridge. I am seeing another allroad machine in my future.

  45. I’m going to replace the 135mm BCD crankset on my track bike with a 144mm BCD set. Makes it easier to get chainrings.

    How likely is the new crankset to fit on the existing BB? Says the new ones will fit a 107mm square taper JIS – is this standard for track bikes? I’m slightly concerned that it’s going to have some esoteric BB fitting.

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