London Cogal 2013

London Cogal 2013

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London Calling

A London Cogal was discussed a few months ago but didn’t get beyond a casual conversation. This week’s sad news about @itburns has made me realise how much this community means to people and that sitting back and waiting for things to happen is not an option.

London calling to the faraway towns

The London Cogal will start from the Mall and head roughly South West to Havant on the coast, possibly taking in a loop of Box Hill.

Route: Something like this (Subject to some modification and refinement)

The ride out of London will should serve as a good leg loosener, a steady build up to speed by the time we hit the countryside rather than it being fast from the go. The route isn’t quite nailed down yet (we’ll refine it over the next month or so) but there are plenty of stunning roads through that part of the country. If you’ve got any thoughts, email me on the address below.

The route is generally lumpy, crossing the South Downs, so it make sense to make it a no drop day but if there’s a decent number of attendees, two groups might be the sensible way forward.

The Royal Oak in Havant is an ideal spot for post ride recovery beverages and protein replenishment. Lamb Shanks or Beef and Ale pie will go down particularly well if it’s a Rule #9 day. After that it’ll be a short ride to Havant Station to get the train back into London.

For those in the South West/South of London and not wanting to head into the centre of town the route will take us through either Richmond Park or Clapham Junction/Common so we could pause briefly to pick up attendees a second rendezvous point.

Email me at london.cogal@gmail.com if you’re interested and with your thoughts on the route.

The ice age is coming, the sun’s zooming in

The Royal Oak

The Royal Oak

Event Details

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Date/Time
Date - October 13, 2013
9:05 AM - 9:00 PM

Location
Admiralty Arch

Cogal Details
Route Details

Ride Classification

// Casually Deliberate (No Drop)

  1. @ChrisO

    It will be my first chance to wear my Velominati gilet and armwarmers, since they were delivered in March I think.

    Although I suspect they will be glimpsed only under my softshell jacket.

    I was going to say that it’s cooled down a bit today but it’s not that cold but it would seem that @roadslave525 has been putting in some last minute training miles with his coach in the area and thinks it too cold for fingerless gloves.

    I’m not sure which I’m more worried about, the cold or two skybots with anti-v metres trying to rip my legs off.

    I was looking forward to testing my new gloves out over a longer distance.

  2. @ChrisO

    No excuse for Rule #33 non-compliance – the ride isn’t until Sunday so you have approximately 65 hours to man up and shave your legs.

    And sort out any other compliance issues while you’re at it.

    We don’t want to be confused with the sportive riders… The Horror ! The horror !

    Fortunately, I live in the same country as my wife and not in a desert with a camel for companionship. Until that changes I’m going to respect her views on Rule #33.

    It might seem like blasphemy to some but Mrs Chris is a higher authority than @frank.

  3. @Chris

    @936adl

    For the record i’ll also be flouting #29, #30, and #31 too.

    I invite you into my house, into my family home, and this is how you repay me?

    I hope i’ve not spoken too soon……

  4. @936adl Just don’t let Mrs Chris see you prancing about with your EPMS or you’ll find that a bed has been made up in the garage.

    In all seriousness though, why? What is it that you’re bringing that won’t fit neatly in a jersey pocket.

  5. It’s tempting. This could be my opportunity to throw off my EPMS once and for all.

  6. @Teocalli

    @ChrisO

    It will be my first chance to wear my Velominati gilet and armwarmers, since they were delivered in March I think.

    Although I suspect they will be glimpsed only under my softshell jacket.

    I’m trying to work out whether that much clothing puts you in non compliance of #V or in compliance with #9 given the temperature difference.

    However, given that I suspect you will hand down a darned good thrashing to all of us maybe I should keep my mouth shut.

    Mate I’m debating whether to wear them over a long-sleeve merino base layer, and then have my Rapha softshell on top. Long finger gloves, with undergloves, and knee warmers are also on the cards, and probably shoe covers as well.

    The forecast says maximum 13C, which is several degrees colder than I would experience through the coldest months of the year here, and about 20 degrees colder than what it is most days at the moment. A -20C differential is a Relative Rule #9 IMHO.

  7. @Chris

    @ChrisO

    No excuse for Rule #33 non-compliance – the ride isn’t until Sunday so you have approximately 65 hours to man up and shave your legs.

    Fortunately, I live in the same country as my wife and not in a desert with a camel for companionship. Until that changes I’m going to respect her views on Rule #33.

    It might seem like blasphemy to some but Mrs Chris is a higher authority than @frank.

    Not sure whether I should worry about this (or even admit it) but Mrs T made me Rule #33 compliant by attacking me with a sanding sheet after watching too many glossy suntanned legs on the TdeF.  Not sure though whether my sticks of celery quite match up to resultant expectation though.

  8. @ChrisO I’m thinking V-Gilet, SS V-Jersey, V-bibs, merino arm warmers, socks and base layer. I know you’re operating to a different scale but that lot combo pretty well for me down to about 5C for a long ride.

    How well does the softshell fold down, can you stow it away in a jersey pocket if it’s a bit warm with it on? I can see the V-Gilet being a bit warm on the climbs with the merino base layer and arm warmer combo.

    I could be fucked, though if the heating isn’t working on the train on the way down and I’m cold from the start.

  9. @936adl

    It’s tempting. This could be my opportunity to throw off my EPMS once and for all.

    Free yourself from the tyranny, brother, submit to the rules and free yourself.

  10. @Teocalli I took the plunge a year or so ago. Mrs Chris was not impressed at all. It took a surprisingly long time to grow back.

  11. @Chris

    @936adl

    It’s tempting. This could be my opportunity to throw off my EPMS once and for all.

    Oh Bollocks – where am I going to put the cake tin?

  12. Just need to give the bike a clean now……

  13. @936adl

    All this talk of kit. Let’s hope we’re all Rule #14, #16, and #17 compliant on the day.

    I fear this may be a can of worms though…….

    Rule #14, Rule #16, Rule #17, Rule #28 – check.  Could be bang in trouble with Rule #17 for sock length!

  14. @Chris

    @936adl

    It’s tempting. This could be my opportunity to throw off my EPMS once and for all.

    Free yourself from the tyranny, brother, submit to the rules and free yourself.

    I see the light.  I will be removing the said offending article from underneath my arse with immediate effect!

  15. Its certainly Autumn weather now forecast for Sunday.

    I was hoping to travel light but it now looks like Flandrian best all round.

  16. I’ve just seen the latest forecast for Sunday.

    Rule #9 conditions would seem an understatement!

  17. @936adl

    I’ve just seen the latest forecast for Sunday.

    Rule #9 conditions would seem an understatement!

    Hmmm that didn’t exactly improve since yesterday.

  18. @936adl all this talk of Fall weather, scraping the windshield this morning here in darkest Perthshire, searching for the knee warmers. Enjoy yirsels lads.

  19. @Teocalli

    @936adl

    I’ve just seen the latest forecast for Sunday.

    Rule #9 conditions would seem an understatement!

    Hmmm that didn’t exactly improve since yesterday.

    It’s not so much the likelihood of it being colder and wetter that bothers me but the 180 degree windshift between now and Sunday – looks like it’s going to be on the nose.

  20. For me, It’s a tough call between boiled alive in a proper rain jacket or a long day of sogginess. I tend to favour the second option until winter kicks in.

     

    However, my biggest fear is that my new white de feet dura gloves make me look like a mime artist. It’s a shame we aren’t meeting in Covent Garden I could’ve earnt some pre-ride payola.

  21. @norm I’ve got the grey De Feet gloves, they’re the best winter gloves I’ve ever had and surprisingly comfy for unpadded gloves. I’ve also got a pair of white Rapha Grand Tour gloves (Mrs Chris and the velonippers were very nice to me for my birthday) but I’m not sure about the wisdom behind white woollen gloves.

  22. @Chris I already had the de feet oversocks and knee warmers in white so at least the fuzzy logic to pick white is consistent.

  23. @norm. Well if the viz is bad you can signal all the turns.

  24. I can’t wait for the London Cogal. Mainly because it will bring to an end the number of inane, fiddle-farting, micro-organizational comments here. You’d think you lot were coordinating the Olympic opening ceremony. Wasn’t it one of your lot who commented that the best expeditions were planned on the back of an envelope? 348 comments and counting! Worse still, all under that iconic image of musical anarchy – “Mick – do you think I’ll be warm enough in my torn jeans and sleeveless tartan shirt?”

    Enjoy your ride. Seriously. I hope its raining sideways. (Its the UK – remember your mudguards…)

  25. @Harminator Fuck off. We just like cake and tea.

    Anyway that’s a bit rich coming from the mind behind such deep and meaningful insights as “That’s not tuck position. That’s yuck position.” 

    Seriously? It’s too windy for rain at the moment.

  26. @Chris Just trying to do you nancy’s a favour. But carry on if you wish. We’re all dying to hear if you wear your DaFeet gloves or your Rapha socks or your Castelli cockring.

  27. @harminator

    Whilst you might have a valid point about some of the cakewaffle, the last time any of you Aussies discussed a ride there were about 300 comments about those dangerous magpies trying to attack you before you all started accusing each other of bothering sheep (again).

  28. @norm Go easy on him, it hasn’t been a good year for the Aussies, success in any sporting endeavour has been as conspicuously absent as Andy Schlecks descending and time trialling skills.

  29. Great! See how much more interesting this thread is already?

    Yeah. Aussie sport is going through a re-building period. Every few years we take a stiff broom to some  flatlining sporting arena and show the competition how to step it up a couple of notches. To your credit the English (or British when it suits you) are actually quite astute and immediately begin to try to imitate our superior methods and insert them into your magnificent archaic sporting institutions. After few fuddy-duddy administrators die, you employ an Aussie coach or two and import a couple of South African athletes and hey presto – you’re on top!

  30. @Harminator

    Great! See how much more interesting this thread is already?

    Yeah. Aussie sport is going through a re-building period. Every few years we take a stiff broom to some flatlining sporting arena and show the competition how to step it up a couple of notches. To your credit the English (or British when it suits you) are actually quite astute and immediately begin to try to imitate our superior methods and insert them into your magnificent archaic sporting institutions. After few fuddy-duddy administrators die, you employ an Aussie coach or two and import a couple of South African athletes and hey presto – you’re on top!

    Hmm – and I guess there have been no Pacific Islanders that have played for Aussie rugby teams (league and union)?

  31. @Harminator

    I can’t wait for the London Cogal. Mainly because it will bring to an end the number of inane, fiddle-farting, micro-organizational comments here. You’d think you lot were coordinating the Olympic opening ceremony. Wasn’t it one of your lot who commented that the best expeditions were planned on the back of an envelope? 348 comments and counting! Worse still, all under that iconic image of musical anarchy – “Mick – do you think I’ll be warm enough in my torn jeans and sleeveless tartan shirt?”

    Enjoy your ride. Seriously. I hope its raining sideways. (Its the UK – remember your mudguards…)

    What you need to realize is, that for London and Londoners there is nothing else which is near as important, everything and everywhere else is strictly second rate, if that. ‘Tis the centre of the universe, apparently, so cut them some slack, poor souls, it’s their first cogal, they are playing catch up here.

  32. @strathlubnaig

    @Harminator

    I can’t wait for the London Cogal. Mainly because it will bring to an end the number of inane, fiddle-farting, micro-organizational comments here. You’d think you lot were coordinating the Olympic opening ceremony. Wasn’t it one of your lot who commented that the best expeditions were planned on the back of an envelope? 348 comments and counting! Worse still, all under that iconic image of musical anarchy – “Mick – do you think I’ll be warm enough in my torn jeans and sleeveless tartan shirt?”

    Enjoy your ride. Seriously. I hope its raining sideways. (Its the UK – remember your mudguards…)

    What you need to realize is, that for London and Londoners there is nothing else which is near as important, everything and everywhere else is strictly second rate, if that. ‘Tis the centre of the universe, apparently, so cut them some slack, poor souls, it’s their first cogal, they are playing catch up here.

    They are a nation obsessed by directions and the weather.

    And tea.

    And direction finding to a decent cup of tea in weather.

  33. @strathlubnaig

    …there is nothing else which is near as important, everything and everywhere else is strictly second rate, if that. ‘Tis the centre of the universe, apparently…

    Right, now that the provinces and the colonies seem to be getting the idea, we can get back to the important details.

    Is the tea at the Box Hill cafe served loose leaf a tea pot or do they use tea bags?

  34. My soft southern credentials are all in order I drink green tea! On rides though, it’s Italian style coffee all the way.

    I am invoking the masturbation principle on all my rule violations, hoping you guys won’t notice, yeah, like fuck…

  35. Say what you like about Australians – their wine’s good…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbOZccv9ym8

  36. @strathlubnaig

    @Harminator

    What you need to realize is, that for London and Londoners there is nothing else which is near as important, everything and everywhere else is strictly second rate, if that. ‘Tis the centre of the universe, apparently, so cut them some slack, poor souls, it’s their first cogal, they are playing catch up here.

    What you colonials, provincials, arrivistes and other pitifully benighted foreigners need to realise is that we’re right.

    You were on the right track though, well done.

    Back to the weather … my wife is trying to talk me into riding the Roberts in touring mode – with guards and a pannier to take a change of clothes, as it won’t be the ride which kills me but the hours spent afterwards trying to get home while cold and wet.

    I have tried to explain to her that Eddy Merckx wouldn’t have.

    Funnily enough she doesn’t seem to think that’s a valid reason, as I am not Eddy Merckx. She is of course correct on both points and I will no doubt wish I had listened to her.

  37. If anyone is coming in on the train from Woking you can chuck some dry clothing in my car and Mrs T will meet us down in Havant.  I’m also planning on throwing in some spare dry T-shirts but as I am size “climber” (by definition not necessarily performance) those of size “rouleur” my be challenged but I think I have some large size freebie stuff around somewhere.  I’m planning on targeting the 7:42 with the 7:58 as a reserve.

    Who wants a lift back to the Guildford area and surrounds so that I can make sure I put sufficient bike racks on the car?

  38. Have a fantastic ride guys. Just sorry I can’t be there.

  39. In fact if anyone wants to meet up somewhere on the S side of London near the A3 area this evening I could pick up some dry gear for Heather to bring down tomorrow.

  40. @Teocalli

    In fact if anyone wants to meet up somewhere on the S side of London near the A3 area this evening I could pick up some dry gear for Heather to bring down tomorrow.

    That’s a tempting thought and a kind offer… I’ll be in Wimbledon late this afternoon into early evening on a shopping trip with my daughter (don’t ask). Would that work ?

  41. Yes I could pop up to Wimbledon later where and what would suit you?  You can email me as easier to pick up.

  42. @Mike_P Thanks Mike, only a few hours to go!

  43. if its anything like my ride this morning… it’ll be fully ‘ Rule #9 ‘ !

  44. @edster99

    if its anything like my ride this morning… it’ll be fully ‘ Rule #9 ‘ !

    Yup that was a bit brutal (British understatement).  96 miles and somewhat eventful.  Will not spoil the team writeup to come.

  45. @Teocalli

    @edster99

    if its anything like my ride this morning… it’ll be fully ‘ Rule #9 ‘ !

    Yup that was a bit brutal (British understatement). 96 miles and somewhat eventful. Will not spoil the team writeup to come.

    oops sorry 154 Km – my excuse is I’m knackered and just recovering from mild hypothermia.

  46. It was biblical…

    There won’t be a lot of photos – it didn’t stop raining the whole day, and we were too cold and wet to take gloves off.

    But here’s one to be going on with… Nigel’s Cock (Roadslave525).

    As well as Cocking we also passed through Lickfold.

    And when we weren’t Carry On Cogaling we were in the Lord of the Chainrings going through dark forests leading to Lurgashall, Lodsworth and Winterfold.

    Full report to come, once I stop shivering, but many thanks to Teocalli’s wife Heather for driving down and bringing a bag of dry clothes. That saved me.

  47. Awesome day out and chapeau to everyone who made it. As @ChrisO said, truly biblical.

    I’m still trying to warm up. This is helping (strictly medicinal of course):

  48. Congrats on the successful ride.

    on a side note @Chris what do you think of that tomatin 18? I am always looking for another bottle of good scotch to compliment my shelves.

  49. @DCR Absolutely love the Tomatin. It’s certainly up there as one of my favorites with the likes of Bruichladdich. I’ve got a bottle of Balvenie to try next as well as a small advance tasting bottle of an 11 year old Benrinnes bottled in 1998.

    I haven’t been drinking much of the stuff recently. As a drinker I’m a crap cyclist and as a cyclist I’m an even worse drinker. I’ve also complicated matters by getting rather into Armagnac.

    Last night seemed to be a good time for it though.

  50. @Chris I generally find that most days, especially those with riding in them, are good for a glass of scotch. I have had balvenie and enjoyed it. I am currently on a bottle of glenlivet 21 year and finished off my bottle of glenmorangie a week ago. I will have to find a bottle of the tomatin locally.

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