Scottish Cogal 2012

Scottish Cogal 2012

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Attention all hands, attention all hands. The first Scottish Cogal has been scheduled. It sounds endlessly fun, punishing and exciting. The malted beverage recovery fluid will be outstanding. It has to be, it’s Scotland.  Please note, post-cogal reports have to include photos and description of said malted beverage environs. -gianni

Route will be Callander south on the A81 over the Braes of Greenock to Aberfoyle, back north over the Duke’s Pass A821 (10% in places) then left at Loch Achray and along the banks of Loch Katrine, on a road that is only open to local motorised traffic, to Stonachlachar and then south along the B829 back to Aberfoyle. Through Aberfoyle along the A81 to Strathblane (this road can sometimes be busy in places), then left (east) along the A891 to Lennoxtown and then sharp left back north along the B822 Crow Road (proper torture). At Fintry take the right to continue along the B822 to Kippen, then straight through Kippen across the roundabout on the main road continuing along the B822 to Thornhill. At Thornhill continue north to pick up the A81 to Callander and Malted Recovery Beverage.

The back of my cigarette packet suggests that this is around 160kms – but I might be wrong. In case of apocalyptic weather beyond Rule #10 (we had hurricane force winds here twice last year and our roads have a tendency to flood in places) there are a number of points where the route can be cut short with some logic.

This being Scotland it will be Casually Deliberate and a short period of Waiting Properly is expected at the off as well. We have some PMU rubber hands at the ready so some junior Engines may be employed to make a proper crowd scene and set the tone. Pictures will be taken and posted on the site so Looking Pro and Fantastic is the only way to roll.

Mrs Engine will supply ribald remarks and (more usefully) a sag wagon if any Velominatus actually shows imminent signs of expiring. There is also the possibility of food being thrown at us en route by the said Mrs Engine.

We can accommodate two Velominati (or possibly four if they are very friendly with each other) should the consumption of Malted Recovery Beverage mean that driving home afterwards isn’t possible. There’s also places to lay your head in town that we can provide info on should the need arise. Post ride food is also available chez Engine provided numbers are sub 10 if not then, given ample warning of numbers, we’ll think of something.

As always – this is guys and gals meeting on the road for a bike ride – if you come to grief please refer to Rule #5.

If you’re doing anything other than turning up and going home please drop me a text on 07799 690390 or send an email on ivor@sneddencampbell.co.uk and make your needs known so that we have a fighting chance of making the Scottish Cogal a day to remember for all the right reasons.

Event Details

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Date/Time
Date - October 13, 2012
9:05 AM - 5:00 PM

Location
Ancaster Square

Cogal Details
Route Details

Ride Classification

// Casually Deliberate (No Drop) // Cogal

  1. All kinds of possible route alternatives lads, maybe a TT style blast along the Kippen Flats and coffee in Corrieris after a quick lap of Abbey Craig then back via Chalmerston Rd and Deanston. I am sure you will all have a grand time.

    I will be keeping an eye on the forecast for next week and thinking of you all while I am off saving an oilfield.

  2. @campbellrae1

    @the Engine How did the recce go today? Was out over the Eaglesham moors today doing hill repeats and it was a lovely day, hope we get this lucky next week! Is the crow fully open again or are the lights still in place?

    “Hill repeats” – I’ll just have to console myself with looking fantastic. I’ll give you a route card with incorrect directions to make sure that I can keep up. @upthetrossachs and I suspect that we may have observed a couple of people doing their own route reconnaissance yesterday – but seeing as we may now have to change the route much good its done them.

    I’ll check with East Dunbartonshire Cooncil tomorrow – some web posts say they’ll be finished by Friday in which case @upthetrossachs gets his wish to do the Crow Road two weeks in a row.

    If the road is shut we’ll still do Loch Katrine and put some extra kinks in the route after Aberfoyle (@upthetrossachs has made some suggestions but I can’t access any more than the thumbnails he’s posted because we’re not yet “friends” on Pimp my Ride or whatever its called). So Lake of Mentieth, Kippen Flats, Deanston and maybe a finish on the Braes of Greenock if anyone’s still got the legs.

    Long range forecasts are coming in – could be like yesterday clear and calm or cold (7oC) and showery with a 20kph sw breeze – who knows?

    Traffic was noticeable on the main routes yesterday – probably because it was a nice day – but nothing worse than normal (one knob in a white SUV on the Duke’s Pass who just had to overtake and continue downhill more slowly than we were,and a gigantic douche in a custard yellow Evo near Thornhill who decided to test the limits of his traction control overtaking on a blind bend).

    Finally – Mrs Engine is after me for approximate numbers wanting fed post ride as she has to buy mince in appropriate amounts to make spag bol assuming anyone survives the ride and can still eat. If the numbers to be vittled are looking over 10 I’ll need to consider tables at a local curry hostelry as the Engine household is not set up for industrial catering. So feel free to use email/text to keep me posted if you’d like to eat. If you’re not eating and heading home immediately post espresso/malted recovery beverage then I’ll just see you at the deli after 08.30.

    Mrs Engine will review this post and observe that I have made a number of omissions/not made myself clear/been gratuitously offensive so expect some further notes to clear things up over the next couple of days.

  3. Merckxspeed, boys. This sounds fantastic.

  4. @Winelli

    Merckxspeed, boys. This sounds fantastic.

    Are you coming then?

  5. @campbellrae1

    @the Engine Thanks for the reply! As with others I think 28kph would be a bit of a stretch for me over those hills. But I know the area well and have done all the roads on the route, so would be happy to lead a slower, say 24-25kph group if we get the numbers?

    Can always fall back on the ‘it’s a base ride’ excuse or Rule #71

    The test ride came in at 25kph although that was with man flu

  6. @the Engine

    @campbellrae1

    @the Engine How did the recce go today? Was out over the Eaglesham moors today doing hill repeats and it was a lovely day, hope we get this lucky next week! Is the crow fully open again or are the lights still in place?

    “Hill repeats” – I’ll just have to console myself with looking fantastic. I’ll give you a route card with incorrect directions to make sure that I can keep up. @upthetrossachs and I suspect that we may have observed a couple of people doing their own route reconnaissance yesterday – but seeing as we may now have to change the route much good its done them.

    I’ll check with East Dunbartonshire Cooncil tomorrow – some web posts say they’ll be finished by Friday in which case @upthetrossachs gets his wish to do the Crow Road two weeks in a row.

    If the road is shut we’ll still do Loch Katrine and put some extra kinks in the route after Aberfoyle (@upthetrossachs has made some suggestions but I can’t access any more than the thumbnails he’s posted because we’re not yet “friends” on Pimp my Ride or whatever its called). So Lake of Mentieth, Kippen Flats, Deanston and maybe a finish on the Braes of Greenock if anyone’s still got the legs.

    Long range forecasts are coming in – could be like yesterday clear and calm or cold (7oC) and showery with a 20kph sw breeze – who knows?

    Traffic was noticeable on the main routes yesterday – probably because it was a nice day – but nothing worse than normal (one knob in a white SUV on the Duke’s Pass who just had to overtake and continue downhill more slowly than we were,and a gigantic douche in a custard yellow Evo near Thornhill who decided to test the limits of his traction control overtaking on a blind bend).

    Finally – Mrs Engine is after me for approximate numbers wanting fed post ride as she has to buy mince in appropriate amounts to make spag bol assuming anyone survives the ride and can still eat. If the numbers to be vittled are looking over 10 I’ll need to consider tables at a local curry hostelry as the Engine household is not set up for industrial catering. So feel free to use email/text to keep me posted if you’d like to eat. If you’re not eating and heading home immediately post espresso/malted recovery beverage then I’ll just see you at the deli after 08.30.

    Mrs Engine will review this post and observe that I have made a number of omissions/not made myself clear/been gratuitously offensive so expect some further notes to clear things up over the next couple of days.

    Mrs Engine has offered her finest fruit loaf and coffee at the half way mark as long as:

    a) The weather’s nice

    b)There are some magnificent guns on show (keep em smooth boys)

    c) She’s still speaking to me

    d) She knows how much to make – too much and I’ll be Too Fat to Climb for weeks as we can’t let good food go to waste – too little and there’ll be an intermediate sprint to the open tin in the middle of the road and its every man for himself.

  7. I will be there for espresso at 0830 and with luck on my side for the halfway fruit loaf although my sprinting prowess is somewhat lacking. Sadly an on call commitment means that I will have to depart rather sharply thereafter as asking the only available colleague to cover for me into his Saturday night off may stretch his good will a touch too far. Looking forward to it, irrespective of any iffy long range forecast.

  8. I’ll be there for 08:30 as well, and hopefully for the halfway fruit loaf as well! Still working on a pass that will allow me to hang around afterwards for dinner, be that at chez Engine or out locally. So if it makes it easier on you/Mrs Engine I will happily head off after the malted recovery beverage,

  9. Just so you guys know, first look at the weather is not bad. A bit cool with only the odd shower to deal with. Looks like Pac Northwest Cogal on the same day will get the nasty stuff.

  10. Praise Merckx ! While out on the hill today i received a call from my work, “you are not going offshore till Monday” they said…

    So, barring domestique dramas and/or natural disasters I think I ought to be there saturday AM.  Will we be partaking of Julie’s coffee prior to departure ?

    I will just need to ignore the phone for a few days now in case they change their mind.

  11. @strathlubnaig

    Praise Merckx ! While out on the hill today i received a call from my work, “you are not going offshore till Monday” they said…

    So, barring domestique dramas and/or natural disasters I think I ought to be there saturday AM.  Will we be partaking of Julie’s coffee prior to departure ?

    I will just need to ignore the phone for a few days now in case they change their mind.

    Julie’s espressi at 08.30 and it looks like the Crow Road will be open

  12. Nice one ! And how was that rough bit of road before Strathblane ?

    ps….nae stopping at Dumgoyne distillery.

  13. @strathlubnaig

    Nice one ! And how was that rough bit of road before Strathblane ?

    ps….nae stopping at Dumgoyne distillery.

    Worst bit of road is the descent from Loch Ard – the long hill has been resurfaced and is excellent – the run in to Aberfole is still in a terrible state

  14. @the Engine

    @strathlubnaig

    Nice one ! And how was that rough bit of road before Strathblane ?

    ps….nae stopping at Dumgoyne distillery.

    Worst bit of road is the descent from Loch Ard – the long hill has been resurfaced and is excellent – the run in to Aberfole is still in a terrible state

    I am sure there are a few other contenders for ‘worst road in Scotland’ but….

    http://www.stirlingobserver.co.uk/stirling-news/local-news-stirling/news-stirling/2011/11/04/rural-road-branded-scotland-s-worst-by-safety-campaigner-51226-29714920/

    Ya sure can pick ’em ha ha

  15. @strathlubnaig

    @the Engine

    @strathlubnaig

    Nice one ! And how was that rough bit of road before Strathblane ?

    ps….nae stopping at Dumgoyne distillery.

    Worst bit of road is the descent from Loch Ard – the long hill has been resurfaced and is excellent – the run in to Aberfole is still in a terrible state

    I am sure there are a few other contenders for ‘worst road in Scotland’ but…. http://www.stirlingobserver.co.uk/stirling-news/local-news-stirling/news-stirling/2011/11/04/rural-road-branded-scotland-s-worst-by-safety-campaigner-51226-29714920/

    Ya sure can pick ’em ha ha

    Pave – pah!

  16. @the Engine Hi, where do you reckon we should park on the day? Is the car park on Station Road free or will I have to remember some change?

    Looking at the forecast, we might escape the rain which would be good! The wind doesn’t look very strong either so if that is the case we will be in luck!

  17. @campbellrae1

    @the Engine Hi, where do you reckon we should park on the day? Is the car park on Station Road free or will I have to remember some change?

    Looking at the forecast, we might escape the rain which would be good! The wind doesn’t look very strong either so if that is the case we will be in luck!

    At that time on a Saturday morning you might find a space on the street otherwise I think it’s £3 in earth money at Station Road or Callander Meadows.

    Touch wood it doesn’t look like we’ll get wet or blown away but I don’t think we’ll need Factor 50 either

  18. Have fun guys – whatever route you end up doing. Do they still run a TT up over the Crow Rd from Jamestown? Do they still do the TT at Aberfoyle and over to Callander? Happy memories of those races.

  19. @wiscot

    Have fun guys – whatever route you end up doing. Do they still run a TT up over the Crow Rd from Jamestown? Do they still do the TT at Aberfoyle and over to Callander? Happy memories of those races.

    Err…I am but a simple country boy and don’t know – I’ll find out for you

  20. @wiscot They still run both. The Crow Road TT(Tour of the Campsies) was cancelled this year due to a land slide but the other one(Tour of the Trossachs) was last weekend! Both really good but hard courses.

  21. @campbellrae1

    @wiscot They still run both. The Crow Road TT(Tour of the Campsies) was cancelled this year due to a land slide but the other one(Tour of the Trossachs) was last weekend! Both really good but hard courses.

    Good to hear it. I was never much of a climber or a road racer, but always enjoyed these races. They were tough and challenged all your skills: climbing, descending, rationing your effort, and endurance,. The Tour of the Shire was another great one too.

  22. @the Engine

    @campbellrae1

    @the Engine Hi, where do you reckon we should park on the day? Is the car park on Station Road free or will I have to remember some change?

    Looking at the forecast, we might escape the rain which would be good! The wind doesn’t look very strong either so if that is the case we will be in luck!

    At that time on a Saturday morning you might find a space on the street otherwise I think it’s £3 in earth money at Station Road or Callander Meadows.

    Touch wood it doesn’t look like we’ll get wet or blown away but I don’t think we’ll need Factor 50 either

    There’s a car park at the back of Ancaster Square which has about a dozen spaces. It’s behind the Visitor Centre (the old St Kessog’s Church). It’s free – and at that time on a Saturday you should find a space. The other free car park is at the top of North Church Street and only a short walk through the back of it down to Ancaster Square – you come out right by Deli Ecosse.

  23. Not sure if the St Josephs weekly car boot sale is still on this time of year, but that is their parking lot behind the Deli, so may not be available, at 0830 on a Saturday you should find a spot on the street, especially on South Church St (sign post to Police Stn) or go up North Church St (hardware store on corner) and there is a free parking lot at the top of the street on the right. All street parking is free if you find a spot, only the Meadows and the Station Rd are pay lots.

  24. Just a quick word to wish you all well for the Cogal tomorrow, i’m really pi55ed that i haven’t been able to make it.

    Have a blast gents!

     

  25. Thanks for the replies about the parking, looking forward to the ride now! Forecast seems ok, not much wind and the rain isn’t supposed to move in till later in the afternoon. Bu this being Scotland, I’m half expecting to wake up to horizontal sleet…

    See you in the morning, I’ll be the big guy on the black Scott CR1.

  26. @campbellrae1

    Thanks for the replies about the parking, looking forward to the ride now! Forecast seems ok, not much wind and the rain isn’t supposed to move in till later in the afternoon. Bu this being Scotland, I’m half expecting to wake up to horizontal sleet…

    See you in the morning, I’ll be the big guy on the black Scott CR1.

    Excellent – I look forward to a proper big guys day out

  27. Looking forward to meeting you all.  Bike cleaned and  niggling problem of the rear brake not springing open fixed.

    Excited!

  28. Just looking at forecast, not overly breezy, probably get a few showers, in fact pretty much an average Trossachs day really. Might wear long breeks.

    How long is the neutralised zone going to be ? I suggest the top of the brae before the descent to Kippen myself…..

    À demain !

  29. @strathlubnaig

    Just looking at forecast, not overly breezy, probably get a few showers, in fact pretty much an average Trossachs day really. Might wear long breeks.

    How long is the neutralised zone going to be ? I suggest the top of the brae before the descent to Kippen myself…..

    À demain !

    I’ve been obsessing over what to wear like Imelda Marcos in her shoe cupboard, long sleeved Helly Hansen, club long sleeve top and a gilet with a rain cape just in case we end up having to stop for a puncture. Might throw a heavier jacket in to the sag wagon and if I’m hypothermic I’ll put that on in Aberfoyle at the half way point. I’ll be rocking the trews too – although be aware Mrs Engine may do a snap gun check on smoothness.

    I think that some Velominati (not me) are going to be fairly brisk – We should be able to reconvene a few times on the tops  early on but if the leading guys/gals are getting cold then we’ll sus out who’s quick and knows the way and maybe split at Aberfoyle.

    As previously noted I descend like Frandy’s maiden aunt so balls out through Kippen isn’t top of my agenda – but each to their own as ever. If we’re still a vaguely coherent group my vote is that we light the blue touch paper from the roundabout on the A811, which is about 15k’s to go, to the speed limit signs at the Mclaren.

  30. As has become the norm for cogals six riders turned up and got on fabulously.  The ride was hard, the weather started off good (for area and time of year) a little rain which got heavy towards the last 20km or so but as we’re hardy scots we decided it wasn’t quite a Rule #9 ride.  Great support from Mrs Engine, thanks so much to everyone involved including the keepers without whom it would never have happened, thanks for my new friends.

  31. @snoov good to meet you today. I thoroughly enjoyed the ride -despite my cursing about the Wee Braes after Thornhill (what can I say? I was tired and emotional). A big Thank You to @the Engine for organising it and a special mention for Mrs Engine for all her help and hospitality. The coffee and cake at Aberfoyle was great. Looking forward to the next one!

  32. The full tale will be told soon once we’ve all emailed each other – much derring do was done obviously.

    Likewise good to meet you all @snoov, @strathlubnaig, @JohnB and @campbellrae1.

    Thanks to @UptheTrossachs for all support rendered – particularly last weeks test ride – we were 20 minutes faster today in somewhat crappier weather with breaks for photo ops and cake.

    Particular thanks to Mrs Engine for putting up with us all.

    @campbellrae1 gets a special mention – a valiant effort, we salute you and trust Merckx that you got home safe and sound.

  33. @the Engine

    The full tale will be told soon once we’ve all emailed each other – much derring do was done obviously.

    Likewise good to meet you all @snoov, @strathlubnaig, @JohnB and @campbellrae1.

    Thanks to @UptheTrossachs for all support rendered – particularly last weeks test ride – we were 20 minutes faster today in somewhat crappier weather with breaks for photo ops and cake.

    Particular thanks to Mrs Engine for putting up with us all.

    @campbellrae1 gets a special mention – a valiant effort, we salute you and trust Merckx that you got home safe and sound.

    Roger on all the above.  Kaffee und kuchen at half way point much appreciated from Mrs Engine and supporting crew.

    I was a bit dissapointed the weather turned inclement only for the last 20km myself, agree the Rule #9 decision.

    Big chapeau to The Engine for providing much of the up front diesel powered lead on that long A81 heartbreaker stretch.

    KOM must go to JohnB especially when he said to me at the top of the Dukes ” I’ll just head down the hill a bit and get some pics of the lads”

    Cheers troops.

  34. Foties here

  35. @the Engine Thanks, made it back fine. Cut across to Buchlyvie and along the A811 to where you would have crossed from Fintry and back over the mini braes. Ended up doing about 105k so not too bad, just struggled with the pace and decided it was better to cut it short than run out of steam a long way from the end! Will just have to come back for next year a bit fitter!

    Big thanks to Mrs Engine for the support and to you for organizing the ride.

  36. @campbellrae1 Glad you made it back and did not wind up lying in a ditch. We did see your car was away, so assumed you got back or it was stolen, but there is no crime in Callander of course.

    Already talk of a possible spring cogal, stay tuned.

  37. More photos here http://www.flickr.com/photos/88612068@N03/

    Cogal compatriots. I thought I had lost that feeling of nervous excitement for riding my bike but I’m so happy it is still there with the right route and marvellous company. To be honest I didn’t mind the pseudo pave road surfaces and heavy rain near the end it simply added to the richness of the whole experience. It was a pleasure to meet and ride with such a fine bunch and I look forward to the next gathering. My enduring memory – The Engine self deploying on the front to punch the freshening south westerly around a grateful peleton on that long stretch down the main road towards Strathblane. Chapeau!

    Special thanks to Mrs Engine and the 2 Mini Engines resplendent with Green PMU hands for the support. The mid point refuel and pre malted beverage recovery cake was simply awesome and something I must try to encourage Mrs B to consider…

    KOM? Several rides up and around Mount Tiede the week before the ride certainly seemed to bring some welcome benefits.

    Gentlemen, I look forward to The Caledonian Cogal 2013, we must meet again on the road soon to plan.

  38. @JohnB Good snaps JB, well done, I think we have a good coverage of the route now, and thanks for getting me on the final top. The group shot is good. Is it possible to be TOO casually deliberate ?

  39. Aye the photos are great @strathlubnaig and @JohnB except I look way beyond my real age!  Must remember to shave the grey beard when photies are pending.

  40. Good work, lads! Plenty o’ V in those shots!

  41. @snoov

    Aye the photos are great @strathlubnaig and @JohnB except I look way beyond my real age! Must remember to shave the grey beard when photies are pending.

    Aye, I was not so familiar with Rule #50 to pass comment on @snoov and @the engine, but I am sure they must have complied, right ?

    ps…flickr foties are downloadable, if that is a real word. Cracking autumn sunshine today, so I am not at work and will be getting oot on the bike.

  42. @strathlubnaig

    @snoov

    Aye the photos are great @strathlubnaig and @JohnB except I look way beyond my real age! Must remember to shave the grey beard when photies are pending.

    Aye, I was not so familiar with Rule #50 to pass comment on @snoov and @the engine, but I am sure they must have complied, right ?

    ps…flickr foties are downloadable, if that is a real word. Cracking autumn sunshine today, so I am not at work and will be getting oot on the bike.

    We were clean shaven when we started but it was a long route

  43. Aye, I was well aware of Rule #50, but as Barbosa says about The Pirate Code …

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6kgS_AwuH0

  44. Well done lads.  Especially liked seeing the young tifosi out to support your efforts — is that a first in the Annals of Cogal-ing?

  45. Scottish comedians work fast.  Taken recently in a bookshop in Glasgow.

  46. @snoov

    Scottish comedians work fast. Taken recently in a bookshop in Glasgow.

    Or as they say in Edinburgh, “you’ll have had your Tour wins, then?”

  47. @snoov

    Scottish comedians work fast. Taken recently in a bookshop in Glasgow.

    Brilliant!!

  48. @snoov

    Scottish comedians work fast. Taken recently in a bookshop in Glasgow.

    Correct me if I’m wrong snoov, but that looks like some kind of charity resale shop the book is in? Yes? No?

  49. Glorious Cogal. It’s thrilling to see the Kit out there in the Rule #9 world, a top various nice bikes. Well done all the way around, especially Mrs and Mini Engines for braving the elements and helping out.

  50. @wiscot Probably, sorry if it was confusing but I was merely passing it on, I didn’t take the photo personally.

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