Second Annual Bay Area Cogal ver. 2013

Second Annual Bay Area Cogal ver. 2013

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Palo Alto, CA.  8:0V am.  Here is the Route.

The second annual Bay Area Cogal will take in the finest roads the Peninsula has to offer. We’ll ride over the hills from Portola Valley, out to the coast, down to Santa Cruz or thereabouts, and then back for recovery beverages. We hope you can join us.

 

 

Event Details

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Date/Time
Date - July 20, 2013
8:05 AM - 5:00 PM

Location
Alpine Inn

Cogal Details
Route Details


// Casually Deliberate (No Drop) // Cogal // Rule VV (Climbing)

  1. @Xyverz

    Outstanding work, thanks for the recon and report!  I for one am looking forward to this part of the ride:

    Now for the part that might turn off some of you Velominati. From the Dam, we had a short 2.3-km dirt trail descent into Los Gatos proper before getting back onto the roads and making our way back to Palo Alto.

  2. @Nate

    @Xyverz

    Outstanding work, thanks for the recon and report! I for one am looking forward to this part of the ride:

    Now for the part that might turn off some of you Velominati. From the Dam, we had a short 2.3-km dirt trail descent into Los Gatos proper before getting back onto the roads and making our way back to Palo Alto.

    Thank you, sir! I had fun on that section as well.

  3. @Xyverz

    Now, I’ve been driving over Highway 17 for YEARS, and never taken the opportunity to explore the summit of the SC mountains. I have to say that I was rather surprised by how many people live up there. It was a nice change to see some sort of civilization up that way.

    My daughter and son-in-law live about 10 miles north of SC. Gorgeous place. Fabulous riding.

  4. @Xyverz Whoa, strong work!

    Being new to the area, last weekend I did OLH.  Unfortunately I took a wrong turn off Woodside and found myself going up King’s Mtn almost immediately after the descent down Skyline.

    My history is as a (terrible) east coast crit racer.  I am too fat to climb.  Winching myself up to Huddart Park on King’s was one of the most painful and beautiful pieces of suffering I have ever endured.  At one point, I actually started repeating “Eddy would keep going”.

    I also discovered something I don’t like about SRAM Doubletap.  When you’re out of gears and push the rear shifter to try and go down another gear (that you don’t have), the rear derailleur momentarily gives you the next higher gear.  It’s like it’s mocking you: “Not only are you out of gears, here’s how a higher gear feels.”  This made me invent a whole set of new curses that I’m sure will be put to good use come the cogal.

  5. @EricW Welcome to the Bay Area.  You’ll learn to love the hills in no time, I am sure.

  6. The start of this is really nice but it was a long ass day in the saddle, up kings and down the other side to pescadero is a great ride as well as Stages road down the coast but not on 1 dealing with the traffic.  Maybe a bit far north for where you are looking at starting.

    http://app.strava.com/activities/52586597

    Here is another idea, I like the start of this down to hwy 1.  While the hwy is always beautiful I’d prefer to keep off it as much as I can to extend my lifespan with the weekend traffic.

    http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2753813

    I definitely favor Xyverz’s suggested route about going over the hills from the start, much safer roads.  But anyway it ends up I am going to try and make it. Should be an epic day in the saddle!  Thanks for kicking it off.

  7. @BStaz Hey, thanks for those comments and suggestions, and I hope you can make it.  The suggestions are much appreciated, as is @Xyverz’s work on the route, which I should acknowledge.  We’ll definitely do Stages/Cloverdale to avoid a good bit of Hwy 1 and look at the other roads you have on there as well.

  8. @BStaz

    The start of this is really nice but it was a long ass day in the saddle, up kings and down the other side to pescadero is a great ride as well as Stages road down the coast but not on 1 dealing with the traffic. Maybe a bit far north for where you are looking at starting.

    http://app.strava.com/activities/52586597

    There is literally no part of that ride that is flat.  Nice.

  9. I have to disagree with the implied comments about the traffic on Hwy 1. There are many more heavily traveled roads in the area that most cyclists don’t even bat an eyelash about riding that have a much narrower shoulder (Hwy 35 / Skyline Blvd on the peninsula, Redwood Road and Skyline Road in the East Bay) but still ride. PCH has traffic, sure, but it also has a fairly wide shoulder pretty much the entire way from San Gregorio down to Santa Cruz.

  10. @Xyverz Yeah, I think the shoulder on 1 is plenty wide.  There is no avoiding a chunk of it in any event if we want to do a proper Cogal distance.  How about debris that might poke a hole in a tire — that might affect my tire/wheel choice?

    Redwood Road and Skyline Road in the East Bay

    Uh-oh, now we are talking trash about my home roads.  Look out [emoticon omitted]

  11. @Nate You’re in east bay?  I’m down in Fremont.  I’d love to meet up at some point and ride!

  12. @EricW For sure.  I’ll have @frank forward you my email for direct contact.

  13. @EricW

    @EricW For sure. I’ll have @frank forward you my email for direct contact.

    Assuming, of course, that’s Ok with you.

  14. @Nate

    @Xyverz Yeah, I think the shoulder on 1 is plenty wide. There is no avoiding a chunk of it in any event if we want to do a proper Cogal distance. How about debris that might poke a hole in a tire “” that might affect my tire/wheel choice?

    Redwood Road and Skyline Road in the East Bay

    Uh-oh, now we are talking trash about my home roads. Look out [emoticon omitted]

    I don’t think you have to worry too much about tyre choice, but then again, I am running a pair of Michelin Krylion Carbons, so flats don’t bug me much. (watch me get sixteen this weekend on Climb to Kaiser…)

    Don’t worry about your stomping grounds. I want to get out there and ride them sometime. I’ve only done Redwood/Skyline on a motorcycle, so I’ll need to go back and redo ‘em on a proper cycle. I also want to ride up and over the hill from 13 to Tunnel Road. I used to commute that way when I was trying to avoid the tunnel on my way home from work (back when I lived in Concord and worked in SF). I’d love to ride them again.

  15. @Xyverz Cool, thanks.  I like my thin, supple Vittorias and Veloflexes, but they come with the risk of flats from road debris.

    As for my stomping grounds there will definitely be an East Bay Cogal in the future.  6-8 years ago there were a lot more motos on Redwood and Skyline.  Maybe I am riding at different times of day, but there are fewer of them than there used to be.  Less need to worry about someone on a sport bike crossing the center line.

  16. @Nate Sounds good man.  Looking forward to it.

  17. Any of you Bay Area velominati have a rec for a reliable shop to rent a rig from for some spinning? Although ill b in town for the cogal, no way I will be able to wrestle the time for a 185km jaunt. Have a great ride!

  18. @gaswepass Will you be in SF or elsewhere?  I have recommended Pacific Bicycle south of Market to people in the past for rentals, and they have reported satisfactory experiences.  Sports Basement also rents in the City and is located near the GG Bridge, which offers convenient Marin County access.  Don’t have any reports of experience with it.

  19. @gaswepass Happy to provide ride recs as well; its a shame you can’t join us although come to thing of it you could join for part of the ride and loop back to the start.  We’d be honored to have a representative from the formidable PNW Velomi-tribe.

  20. @Nate

    thx! Ill be in the city of sf itself. Thought about the joining at the start to at least experience that vicious first hill; depends on logistics. Will def need some ride recs when I have firmer idea of what I will have to work with time and equipment wise.

  21. Nate,

    It’s been suggested to me to (on future trips) take a different route over the SC hills next time, coming back from Santa Cruz, as a low-traffic, more cycle-friendly route: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2667667

    Just food for thought. I’ll email you directly with this info as well.

  22. @Xyverz That sounds good.

  23. Have slightly better intel now. Will be staying in southern  San Francisco, just north of the San Bruno mountain state park by Crocker amazon, if that makes sense. Need some riding recs- going to have to be hitting it early and hard daily before the troops mobilize for the day. Won’t have much car access most of the time. Help, please. Thx in advance!

  24. @gaswepass Hm, not sure I have the info to recommend anything in the immediate area.  If you want to do part of the Cogal I could pick you up then you could take CalTrain back.  Finally what size bike do you ride?

  25. @Nate  I’m a 54cm road. how far is it to the start of the cogal?

  26. Amazing  google maps. 35miles-ish to the alpine inn. A bit of a challenge to just popover.

  27. @gaswepass Eff me, is it that far?  30 minutes on the freeway, it’s on my way to the start.  But you’d have to get back which would eat up a bunch of time.

    Too bad you are on the wee side, I coulda lent you a bike.  Pacific Cycles is probably a good bet from where you’ll be in the City, just bop up 280 which lets you off South of Market.  Or you could go on BART.

    @Xyverz had someone send him this recommendation; they are farther but will delivery which adds to the total cost but is more convenient, depending on the balance of your time/money equation:

    http://www.yelp.com/biz/undiscovered-country-cycling-center-los-altos

    He may also have some ride ideas for the northern penisula.

  28. @Nate

    thinkin likely too complicated, really appreciate the generosity to offer picking me up and all. Pretty lucky to b gettin the saddle time on family vacation, a 4 hr expedition is pushing it(and that’s before I get lost coming back… )I’m just going to have to be creative on routing from the location I’m staying at.

  29. @gaswepass Understood, I know how families vacays are —  Rule 11 be damned!  I hope we can find you some decent riding to squeeze in.

  30. @gaswepass Sadly, the rental place mentioned is down in Los Altos, a bit further away than the Cogal start-point. (Unless they have one closer to you…) That being said, I hear there’s a good climb up San Bruno Mountain, but I’m not sure if it’s paved or dirt. Marin’s full of stuff, but that’s across the GG Bridge from where you are. Hmmm. Milbrae Ave in Burlingame should be a nice climb, if you climb it all the way up to 280. It’ll have some 20% stuff near the top. I really don’t know much about the northern peninsula as I usually don’t ride further north than 84, unless I’m riding up to SF itself.

  31. @gaswepass If Xyverz doesn’t know maybe someone else does.  Or do a Strava segment explore.

  32. My old stomping grounds.  Born and raised in Los Altos with family in Portola Valley.  I’d make the drive from Tahoe to meet you all but we have guests next weekend damnit.  Do it again in the fall!!!

    On another note, check this video of Page Mill Rd.

  33. @pakrat Too bad you can’t make it.  If you have plans to be here in the fall let us know.  Next one is probably in the East Bay.

  34. @pakrat Page mill is a wonderful climb, if not brutal at times. For somebody like me who is too fat to climb, it definitely grants satisfaction when I complete that climb. I am not a fan of the descent though. Steep and scary with lots of blind corners. Yes, I’m a pussy.

  35. @Nate

    @gaswepass Will you be in SF or elsewhere? I have recommended Pacific Bicycle south of Market to people in the past for rentals, and they have reported satisfactory experiences. Sports Basement also rents in the City and is located near the GG Bridge, which offers convenient Marin County access. Don’t have any reports of experience with it.

    rented from pacific bicycle yesterday. Big shout out-  they went above and beyond- brought my printout from my latest fitting and they actually swapped the stem for me to counter the longer top tube of the rental rig. they also had an awesome carbon 650b santa cruz mtb flirting with me the whole time. it was a test, I think. crap- I still have to go back to return…

  36. @gaswepass Great, I hope you can get in some good rides.

  37. @Nate

    thx. Went today from southern sf to the headlands in marin. Riding briefly on highway 1 with no shoulder and 3 lanes of traffic was an unanticipated bonus feature of iPhone based routing on the fly. got lucky tho- the city and hills weren’t socked in despite the ongoing misting. Tomorrow more hills in some other direction…

  38. @gaswepass Cool ride, good luck with the route finding.

  39. Is this still on? :-) and do we have a route yet? I was planning on dragging a friend or two but they wanted to get a feeling for the length plus climbing before they committed.

  40. @BStaz Yes the ride is on, hope you and your mates can join us.  The route that’s posted is 185 km and 2900 m of climbing.  I think we have come up with a couple small modifications to the route — primarily a different climb out of Santa Cruz, with less traffic — and that is not reflected in the route that’s posted.  We’ll try to update that.  So what we actually do might be slightly shorter, but at least 170 km.  2900 m of vertical is roughly the amount of climbing.  There will be a range of abilities, and it’s no drop, so we’ll regroup on a regular basis.

  41. @Nate

    There will be a range of abilities, and it’s no drop, so we’ll regroup on a regular basis.

    That’s the polite way of saying, “Ian’s too fat to climb,” so we’ll be waiting for him. A lot.

    Do you want me to post my modified route with the ride up Granite Creek, Nate?

  42. @Xyverz

    That’s the polite way of saying, “Ian’s Too Fat To Climb,” so we’ll be waiting for him. A lot.

    BTW, Ian’s me (in case you didn’t know…)

  43. @Xyverz

    @Nate

    There will be a range of abilities, and it’s no drop, so we’ll regroup on a regular basis.

    That’s the polite way of saying, “Ian’s Too Fat To Climb,” so we’ll be waiting for him. A lot.

    As long as we are sandbagging, my knee is a bit sore.

    Do you want me to post my modified route with the ride up Granite Creek, Nate?

    That would be great!

  44. @Nate I weighed in at 102kg today. I was 85kg when I started following this site. I’ve porked up quite a bit. So yeah. I’m too fat to climb. ;-) (but I’ll do my best)

    I’ll get the new map made up this evening.

  45. @Xyverz

     I’ll do my best

    Of that I have no doubt!  Looking forward to Saturday.

  46. @Nate I was able to update the Modified route. According to ridewithgps, 175km with 3065m elevation.

    http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2653792

    The distance is probably accurate, but I doubt the elevation is. I think it’s likely off by about 200-300m.

  47. @Xyverz Most excellent!

  48. Looks like it will be a beautiful day out on the coast tomorrow. See everyone in the morning.  Remember, The Ride Starts On Time — 8:0V.

  49. Sorry I missed the ride, it looks like the route turned out awesome. I have yet to ride that far south on the coast.  In my defense I took a rest day for this :  http://app.strava.com/activities/68890110   So you know I didn’t slack off for the weekend.  Looking forward to the write up and the next event.

  50. @BStaz Ouch.  That looks painful.  We did Marin last year, Peninsula this year, so next one is East Bay.  Might not wait till next year, could be this fall.

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