It works…and I got a million of ’em. Ha cha cha cha chaaaaaaaaa!

That was going to be my question/comment…great minds stink alike!

But how funny it is to read that Brett carried a phone “along with a camera”!

I’m still not sure I’d plop down $65 of my own money for it, but I have to admit that I love this thing as well as not having a saddlebag anymore. The size is perfect for a tube, CO2, multitool, and tire wrench. The best feature is the ring on the zipper that allows for easy open/close when the contents are packed in there and/or you’re using it in the wet (or have sweaty hands).

One things if for sure- Rule #31 is not to be questioned. The choice of bag is up to you.

I’d love to see how the newspaper was folded up around the tire without fraying; I’ve never seen that done but I love the idea.

The folded tubbie under the saddle is still a righteous way to roll, however.

http://www.velominati.com/tradition/european-posterior-tubular-eptb/

Living in coastal LA, and often riding at through dusk (both as commuter, and on training rides), I’m subject to drastic micro-climate changes which force me to carry a whole shit-pot of kit to be ready for rides of any length (heavy and light gilets, arm and noggin warmers, gloves, towel, etc, plus the usual tooling/CO2/pumps/nutrition). I don’t believe it would be feasible to pocket-stuff all that crap in, and, in addition, the bag offers the advantage of being always (mostly) ready to go — I just check it for contents, and sling it on and go.

Oh, and to stay on-topic, there’s one pouch in the bag that’s *perfect* for my Lezyne Caddy Sack (pre-2013 version w/ zipper), replete with 2 tubes, 2 CO2 cartridges, levers, multi-tool, patch kit, cab fare, etc.,etc.

There is the rare mid-morning summer ride where I know the temps and conditions will be stable enough to ride “naked”, but for the most part I always have my “KOM” bag as I call it.

Hmm, maybe if I order one size bigger, I can carry my post-ride recovery ales with me…

I contend the bike (and rider) should be lean, clean and austere.  My advice, try to keep it under control otherwise you could end up looking, well … overloaded.

I have used a couple of vinyl examination gloves as per the photos – fit all the gear, use one for the tube to protect from the multi tool and stuff all in the other glove. Waterproof and Dual purpose  as also serve to protect hands if need to deal with carnage on the road.

Out of curiosity, Why a tubular, but not a tube?

A tube is small enough to put in a jersey pocket with room to spare.  You can put a spare tubular in a pocket but it’s bulky.  Also a spare tube isn’t really stout enough to put under your saddle and it will get grit on it that will contribute to another flat, probably before you even get back home on it.

Rule #31….Is there any exception if for example I had a small sadlle bag that exactly matched my frame colour and indivudal branding?

The only permissible thing to put under your saddle is a spare tubular, secured by a leather toe strap.  I hope it goes without saying that this requires actually running tubulars.

Rule #31….Is there any exception if for example I had a small sadlle bag that exactly matched my frame colour and indivudal branding?

The converted bidon is the way I roll at times. Only because I get lower back pain on longer rides. But my EPMS has sat lonely in my pile of cycling gear for a few months.

Rule #31….Is there any exception if for example I had a small sadlle bag that exactly matched my frame colour and indivudal branding?

Please see Rule #3 and the eloquent post #212 above

Rule #31….Is there any exception if for example I had a small sadlle bag that exactly matched my frame colour and indivudal branding?

No. Just fucking No.

And just to get things straight, I did not write that post. I think.

I now carry a small nylon pouch that contains the following.

I’m most chuffed about he Birzman pump.  12.5 cm long and lighter and smaller than CO2 cannister/chuck combo.

Save your money… every heard of ZipLock?

[img]http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/317206425/ziploc-bags.jpg[/img]

http://www.paperchase.co.uk/invt/00507427/

In the small I keep my ID, Cell phone and Coffee / Beer money..

Hopefully, it works out well, and won’t be too much of a brick in my pocket.

Would be nice to free my steed of the seat pack.

For my MTB I used a EPMS. 29er tubes are huge. And since I have a hard tail, I have two king cages that hold water for rides under 2 hours. Longer than that and I ride with a basic camelbak.

I didn’t expect to like it, but after a ride, I like the new one better.

I found it easy to open the velcro and reach in with short or long fingered gloves. It lays flatter on the back when in a jersey pocket.

With three now, I can have one for road bike tube and tool, one for ‘cross tube, and one for riding tubular wheels. Or maybe I’ll use one for MTB racing when I don’t need a pack. Anyway, options.

I’ve got the new ones (both sizes), they’re also very good, though not as easy to get stuff in and out of. They are 100% water proof now, though.

http://www.amazon.com/Lezyne-1-CS-CADDY-V2S04-P-Caddy-Sack-Bag/dp/B008R5RVHU/ref=pd_sim_sbs_sg_1

My Caddy Sack has developed two small holes at the corner seams, near the zipper. My seems (silver version) have always been pretty tough, even sticking in my back a bit. Material is very stiff and they are pointy.

Anyway, now water will be able to get into the Sack. Mine was purchased in June 2011.

Has this happened to anyone? Already sent a note to Lezyne to see if they can help me or if I need to send back to the dealer.

I’m wonder if the black one is a better/different material? Black seems harder to find.

Exactly the same thing happened to my silver one – seems like the material just failed where packed items had corners…

My Caddy Sack has developed two small holes at the corner seams, near the zipper. My seems (silver version) have always been pretty tough, even sticking in my back a bit. Material is very stiff and they are pointy.

Anyway, now water will be able to get into the Sack. Mine was purchased in June 2011.

Has this happened to anyone? Already sent a note to Lezyne to see if they can help me or if I need to send back to the dealer.

I’m wonder if the black one is a better/different material? Black seems harder to find.

I’m sorry this happened to you, but I find it hilarious that you posted this minutes after I ordered one of these things, weeks since the previous post in the thread.

Anyway, now water will be able to get into the Sack. Mine was purchased in June 2011.

Has this happened to anyone? Already sent a note to Lezyne to see if they can help me or if I need to send back to the dealer.

I’m wonder if the black one is a better/different material? Black seems harder to find.

Do you guys also carry co2 as well as the Lezyne pump?

Marko posted a picture the other day of his fancy calf-tattoo upgrade, and I noticed his was mounted right to the side of his bidon cage on the downtube.

Seems like a pretty good spot for it, and by far the heaviest items in my jersey-pocket gear bag are my two co2 canisters and chuck. Getting rid of them in exchange for the Lezyne is an option, and I don’t get flats often enough (knock on wood!!!!) that I’m really worried about needing the speed of co2 all the time…

I’ve never used the co2 canisters. Never have seen the need. Just a small hand pump in the back pocket for the last 5 years. Used to have a slica frame pump back in the 80’s/early 90’s. Maybe I should try the canisters b/c I truly have no idea what I am missing, although I have never had a problem with my mini handpump either.

Marko posted a picture the other day of his fancy calf-tattoo upgrade, and I noticed his was mounted right to the side of his bidon cage on the downtube.

Seems like a pretty good spot for it, and by far the heaviest items in my jersey-pocket gear bag are my two co2 canisters and chuck. Getting rid of them in exchange for the Lezyne is an option, and I don’t get flats often enough (knock on wood!!!!) that I’m really worried about needing the speed of co2 all the time…

The tire pressure discussion was from awhile bike but I’m more of a squeeze it and see guy than reading the psi gauge. I’m quite picky about most things, but for some reason that isn’t one of them.

For the love of Merckx, that thing is so f’n hideous and expensive. On what planet is that a tasteful alternative to anything?

http://www.rapha.cc/seat-pack

I can fit all that I carry in the Caddy Sack, but I prefer to space my stuff out across all three pockets. But, the CS is great for heavy rain or when I’m commuting and put all my pocket-gear into it, toss it into my pack & ride off. Nice to have it all in one spot.

On most days I prefer my Sci-con Pocket Protector to Le Sack, but I’m glad I own the Caddy Sack, as it is quite useful in some conditions.

Nothing like having two of everything, even pocket sacks, because if you ride enough, they’ll be useful.

Frank, be advised that those Mavic hub tool/tyre levers are prone to snapping at the drop of a casquette.

WTF was I thinking, two levers! I at least have enough V in my blood to get a tyre of the rim without resorting to a pair of levers!

That’s brilliant to put the chuck inside the tire. I may try that. Get rid of that bulky tire lever, though, and get one of these.

Doesn’t feel too bulky and I can’t really thin what else I might want to take with me.

I had a look at the sack but the only real advantage I could see was grouping more stuff together so you’re less likely to forget it.

Decided to try the Caddy Sack. I’ve only used it once, but packed with tool, (very thin) wallet, tube+lever, & Co2 + head it felt really heavy and bulky. Did you love it from first use? Or did it take some getting used to?

The upside is all my gear is in one pocket, with one totally free and one with a very small cell phone.

The downside is I felt like I had a brick in my center pocket. Using a crank brothers m-17, nothing crazy. Maybe a few more rides? Or maybe being not that big the Sack feels like a tramping pack?

I just happened to be researching this bag and I thought the references to the rules were interesting, although a primarily online cycling retailer like realcyclist referencing the rules seems wrong somehow and also seems to really violate rule 58.

On another topic – have you read the transcript of the Landis / Kimmage interview… sad stuff, but a surprisingly compelling read.

Thanks for that second link… super interesting. Amazing that there is a rolling resistance difference between latex and butyl tubes.

@blaireau
True enough; other than the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway, which I am loathe to ride, we might have more hard tire-forgiving surfaces here in… where are we…Middle England? I do commute on 28s at 90, though

@all
while this is a metric-centric site, I am glad we are not speaking in kilopascals.

xyxax:
@Pedale.Forchetta
As am I. On my 25″²s, I put 120 in the rear and 105 up front.
Then again I’m 97 kg on a 9 kg bike. And not fast.

That’s not high for a big fella – at about 100kg and a tad slower than I once was I also run 120 rear and 110 front on my Pro3s. My earlier comments were related to racing sardines who waste heaps of energy riding tyres at too high pressures – there’s absolutely no way a 60kg-ish rider needs more than 120psi in any tubular tyre, even racing in the dry.

As am I. On my 25’s, I put 120 in the rear and 105 up front.
Then again I’m 97 kg on a 9 kg bike. And not fast.

The only time I’ve really noticed tire pressure adversely affecting me was when I neglected to pump my tires for several weeks, and on a ride home from work noticed it was taking more effort than it should to go up moderate hills.

Since I don’t race, my ride times and speeds are all over the map depending on how I feel any given day, so I haven’t really tried to correlate poor performance to my normal tire pressure, or if changing it slightly would help at all.

@Pedale.Forchetta

God, there are so many forums online where people argue tire width and PSI to no end.

Personally, I’d love to to try out some 25’s instead of the typical 23, but when a good set runs you $100 you don’t want to buy something you aren’t sure about… I’m going to get a new set of GP 4000 S tires soon, but I think those only come in a 23.