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		By: Cyclops		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll be doing a field test shortly but it might be down from the season high.]]></description>
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		By: huffalotpuffalot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Cyclops

Awesome article, i was wondering as it has been a few months whether you have done your field test yet and if so what the results are.

@Frank

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Frank&quot; &gt;The team mechanics, soigneurs, physios; these are the people who devote their life to the sport and work tirelessly and without headlines that their pedaling counterparts receive.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I couldn&#039;t agree more either with this, and usually they are so willing to give of their time and knowledge when asked. I remember very clearly when I was younger and at some regional race my dad had taken me to he was sat down on a little chair next to the mechanic who he asked nicely if he could watch him strip down the bike and rebuild it. Dad took notes and the mechanic was extremely happy to oblidge and even gave him his contact details incase he wanted to call and ask.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cyclops</p>
<p>Awesome article, i was wondering as it has been a few months whether you have done your field test yet and if so what the results are.</p>
<p>@Frank</p>
<blockquote cite="Frank"><p>The team mechanics, soigneurs, physios; these are the people who devote their life to the sport and work tirelessly and without headlines that their pedaling counterparts receive.</p></blockquote>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more either with this, and usually they are so willing to give of their time and knowledge when asked. I remember very clearly when I was younger and at some regional race my dad had taken me to he was sat down on a little chair next to the mechanic who he asked nicely if he could watch him strip down the bike and rebuild it. Dad took notes and the mechanic was extremely happy to oblidge and even gave him his contact details incase he wanted to call and ask.</p>
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		By: Jeff in PetroMetro		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff in PetroMetro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 23:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16286&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Il buccaneero &lt;/a&gt;
A-Merckx.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-16286" rel="nofollow">@Il buccaneero </a><br />
<a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#A-Merckx">A-Merckx</a>.</p>
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		By: Cyclops		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16286&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Il buccaneero&lt;/a&gt;

Nice.


Well then I guess I was almost suffering on the trainer last night because I couldn&#039;t see very good.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-16286" class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" rel="nofollow">@Il buccaneero</a></p>
<p>Nice.</p>
<p>Well then I guess I was almost suffering on the trainer last night because I couldn&#8217;t see very good.</p>
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		By: RideFit		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RideFit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 17:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[nice one! keep at it!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice one! keep at it!</p>
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		By: Il buccaneero		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Il buccaneero]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 15:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Suffering&quot; is the point at which your sensory perception of the outside world starts to shut down as your focus is almost exclusively, and involuntarily, directed to the pain, numbness, burning sensations, pounding heart and other things going on within your own body.  You know you are suffering when:  

1.  Your arms also get numb and start to burn like your legs;
2.  You don&#039;t hear anything but your pounding heart (which you are aren&#039;t really hearing but feeling all over your body including your head and ears);
3.  You get a form of tunnel vision in that you don&#039;t really perceive anything you are seeing (your eyes &quot;see&quot; things but your mind does not register them because it is directed inward);
4.  Your sense of time is altered in that 1 minute feels like 10, or maybe even more; and
5.  You lose the sense of how fast or slow you are then going, or how much or little power you are putting out, because your body is now only telling you &quot;hurt, hurt, hurt&quot; all over and you&#039;ve lost the ability to judge performance (this is when a speedometer and/or power meter can help you figure out just how strong or pathetic actual performance has become at that point in the effort). 

There are other examples of indicators.  These are just a few.

When you really know how to suffer, your actual performance doesn&#039;t matter.  You can really suck from a comparative perspective, but if you truly suffer you are a badass and a hardman.  It is kind of like Rule 9 from my perspective, if you know how to suffer you are a badass--period.  The difference is, unlike being out riding in bad weather, only YOU know if you are truly suffering.  

That is my take on suffering.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Suffering&#8221; is the point at which your sensory perception of the outside world starts to shut down as your focus is almost exclusively, and involuntarily, directed to the pain, numbness, burning sensations, pounding heart and other things going on within your own body.  You know you are suffering when:  </p>
<p>1.  Your arms also get numb and start to burn like your legs;<br />
2.  You don&#8217;t hear anything but your pounding heart (which you are aren&#8217;t really hearing but feeling all over your body including your head and ears);<br />
3.  You get a form of tunnel vision in that you don&#8217;t really perceive anything you are seeing (your eyes &#8220;see&#8221; things but your mind does not register them because it is directed inward);<br />
4.  Your sense of time is altered in that 1 minute feels like 10, or maybe even more; and<br />
5.  You lose the sense of how fast or slow you are then going, or how much or little power you are putting out, because your body is now only telling you &#8220;hurt, hurt, hurt&#8221; all over and you&#8217;ve lost the ability to judge performance (this is when a speedometer and/or power meter can help you figure out just how strong or pathetic actual performance has become at that point in the effort). </p>
<p>There are other examples of indicators.  These are just a few.</p>
<p>When you really know how to suffer, your actual performance doesn&#8217;t matter.  You can really suck from a comparative perspective, but if you truly suffer you are a badass and a <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#hardman">hardman</a>.  It is kind of like  <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#9">Rule #9</a> from my perspective, if you know how to suffer you are a badass&#8211;period.  The difference is, unlike being out riding in bad weather, only YOU know if you are truly suffering.  </p>
<p>That is my take on suffering.</p>
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		By: Cyclops		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 16:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16146&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@xyxax&lt;/a&gt;

Oh, I forgot to mention that Max says the your indoor results are usually 5-8bpm lower than an on the road test.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-16146" class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" rel="nofollow">@xyxax</a></p>
<p>Oh, I forgot to mention that Max says the your indoor results are usually 5-8bpm lower than an on the road test.</p>
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		By: Cyclops		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 16:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Man, I play hookie one day and my article gets posted and know I gotta try to answer all this stuff.  Thanks for all the kind words and encouragement.

&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16146&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@xyxax&lt;/a&gt;
 
The way the test went was to start at 100w and increase 25w every three minutes with a blood sample at the end of each three minute segment.  I was surprised that the test ended because my RPE didn&#039;t seem very high.  I&#039;m hoping this was an indication that I know how to suffer because I definitely have a LOT higher RPE when TTing and hill climbing.  Which brings up a point that others have commented on here and which a Cat 1 that was at the testing was discussing with me - &quot;This is a number to base training off of but it doesn&#039;t tell us what your ability to suffer is.&quot;

So this brings up something that I&#039;ve always wondered about.  What is &quot;suffering&quot;?  Can somebody give a objective definition?  Am I really suffering or is there this whole nuther level that I&#039;m not privy to? 

&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16114&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Marko&lt;/a&gt;

Nobody said anything about my kit.  I was bummed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I play hookie one day and my article gets posted and know I gotta try to answer all this stuff.  Thanks for all the kind words and encouragement.</p>
<p><a href="#comment-16146" class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" rel="nofollow">@xyxax</a></p>
<p>The way the test went was to start at 100w and increase 25w every three minutes with a blood sample at the end of each three minute segment.  I was surprised that the test ended because my RPE didn&#8217;t seem very high.  I&#8217;m hoping this was an indication that I know how to suffer because I definitely have a LOT higher RPE when TTing and hill climbing.  Which brings up a point that others have commented on here and which a Cat 1 that was at the testing was discussing with me &#8211; &#8220;This is a number to base training off of but it doesn&#8217;t tell us what your ability to suffer is.&#8221;</p>
<p>So this brings up something that I&#8217;ve always wondered about.  What is &#8220;suffering&#8221;?  Can somebody give a objective definition?  Am I really suffering or is there this whole nuther level that I&#8217;m not privy to? </p>
<p><a href="#comment-16114" class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" rel="nofollow">@Marko</a></p>
<p>Nobody said anything about my kit.  I was bummed.</p>
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		By: Buck Rogers		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16132&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Marcus &lt;/a&gt;
Yeah, you&#039;re right.  Definitely getting in touch with a bike shop ASAP after arrival and see what the local racing scene is.  I have not raced in years and really look forward to getting blasted out the back for a bit until I can find my racing legs!  And what&#039;s this Masters Shit!  No way I can be masters!!!  Why just yesterday I was a raging 21 year old Cat 3 (or was that 18 years ago?).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-16132" class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" rel="nofollow">@Marcus </a><br />
Yeah, you&#8217;re right.  Definitely getting in touch with a bike shop ASAP after arrival and see what the local racing scene is.  I have not raced in years and really look forward to getting blasted out the back for a bit until I can find my racing legs!  And what&#8217;s this Masters Shit!  No way I can be masters!!!  Why just yesterday I was a raging 21 year old Cat 3 (or was that 18 years ago?).</p>
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		By: Sam		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 10:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[great post Cyclops, that anecdote about Eddy has really cheered me up after a pretty shit coupla days

i wanna race this season, and i feel i could use something like this, but as i don&#039;t anybody got tips for training?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great post Cyclops, that anecdote about Eddy has really cheered me up after a pretty shit coupla days</p>
<p>i wanna race this season, and i feel i could use something like this, but as i don&#8217;t anybody got tips for training?</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 06:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Awesome post, great photo, and a cool story to share! Thanks, Cyclops.

As Frank mentioned, I think these numbers are something I don&#039;t want to know, like my bank account, which has been taking a beating lately.

Keep on hammering away at the local hammer - hope you get him a few more times this year.

Oh, and nice kit in the photo!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome post, great photo, and a cool story to share! Thanks, Cyclops.</p>
<p>As Frank mentioned, I think these numbers are something I don&#8217;t want to know, like my bank account, which has been taking a beating lately.</p>
<p>Keep on hammering away at the local hammer &#8211; hope you get him a few more times this year.</p>
<p>Oh, and nice kit in the photo!</p>
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		By: xyxax		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 02:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Cyclops! A good story, well told. 
I was curious about a couple of things.  Was your measured LTHR similar to what you may have found on a 20-60 minute road test?  Was the RPE similar?  I ask because Coggan says:
&lt;em&gt;[W]hile LT is ... the initial non-linear increase in lactate with increasing exercise intensity, this intensity tends to be significantly below that which coaches and athletes tend to associate, on the basis of practical experience, with the concept of a &quot;threshold&quot; exercise intensity.&lt;/em&gt;
Your power at threshold in &quot;real life&quot; may be higher, though it already looks pretty good to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Cyclops! A good story, well told.<br />
I was curious about a couple of things.  Was your measured LTHR similar to what you may have found on a 20-60 minute road test?  Was the RPE similar?  I ask because Coggan says:<br />
<em>[W]hile LT is &#8230; the initial non-linear increase in lactate with increasing exercise intensity, this intensity tends to be significantly below that which coaches and athletes tend to associate, on the basis of practical experience, with the concept of a &#8220;threshold&#8221; exercise intensity.</em><br />
Your power at threshold in &#8220;real life&#8221; may be higher, though it already looks pretty good to me.</p>
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		By: il ciclista medio		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 00:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-16131&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16131&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mcsqueak &lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt;
Question: If you get a Lactate Threshold test after 50, do they throw in for free all those other tests your supposed to have at that age? I mean, if you&#039;re already there...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hey, there&#039;s a business venture idea for aging sportspeople....would have to think about sequence of tests being performed though. I don&#039;t think the DRE prostate test and then the lactate threshold would be a wise follow on.....]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-16131" rel="nofollow">mcsqueak </a>:<br />
Question: If you get a Lactate Threshold test after 50, do they throw in for free all those other tests your supposed to have at that age? I mean, if you&#8217;re already there&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Hey, there&#8217;s a business venture idea for aging sportspeople&#8230;.would have to think about sequence of tests being performed though. I don&#8217;t think the DRE prostate test and then the lactate threshold would be a wise follow on&#8230;..</p>
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		By: il ciclista medio		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[il ciclista medio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 23:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16137&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@mcsqueak &lt;/a&gt;
Yeah I know, being a bit cheeky. I always like his take on things]]></description>
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Yeah I know, being a bit cheeky. I always like his take on things</p>
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		By: Sprider		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 23:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great post! You give me hope (at 52 years) that I can still get better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! You give me hope (at 52 years) that I can still get better.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 23:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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Ha, he is!]]></description>
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<p>Ha, he is!</p>
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		By: frank		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16127&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@G&#039;phant&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot; &gt;The key message to me was the same as yours - train more at lower intensities. I still haven&#039;t quite got the hang of that. Particularly as I&#039;ve given up riding with an HRM.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Thats so true; someone else commented that they recently saw Uncle Phil out riding, and noted how slowly he was going. I am to understand that most pros do their distance riding at 30km/h or so.  Doesn&#039;t surprise me one bit. But when they light it up, they bury themselves.

There&#039;s a piece in Cyclesport on the Leopard training camp in Whereverthefuck and they were doing tests up some hill.  Faboo was laying on the ground in the photo of him at the finish.  That&#039;s training hard.

Rule of thumb is that most amateurs don&#039;t go easy enough when they go easy and don&#039;t go hard enough when they go hard.  Worst of both worlds.

You should also generally train alone because group rides generally become mini races, which keeps you from going easy enough.]]></description>
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<blockquote cite=""><p>The key message to me was the same as yours &#8211; train more at lower intensities. I still haven&#8217;t quite got the hang of that. Particularly as I&#8217;ve given up riding with an HRM.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thats so true; someone else commented that they recently saw Uncle Phil out riding, and noted how slowly he was going. I am to understand that most pros do their distance riding at 30km/h or so.  Doesn&#8217;t surprise me one bit. But when they light it up, they bury themselves.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a piece in Cyclesport on the Leopard training camp in Whereverthefuck and they were doing tests up some hill.  <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#Faboo">Faboo</a> was laying on the ground in the photo of him at the finish.  That&#8217;s training hard.</p>
<p>Rule of thumb is that most amateurs don&#8217;t go easy enough when they go easy and don&#8217;t go hard enough when they go hard.  Worst of both worlds.</p>
<p>You should also generally train alone because group rides generally become mini races, which keeps you from going easy enough.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice post Cyclop&#039;s. 
Love that the doctor is &quot;Dr. Max Testa&quot;. I&#039;m with you on the Team BMC being a fave as well. Partly because, being an Aussie, I still have a soft spot for Goodcadel and partly because current Bike No.1 is a BMC.
Merckx anecdote, just as one would expect from the Man.

&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16106&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Jeff in PetroMetro &lt;/a&gt;
&quot;You possess The V in spades. This can overcome the numbers when you are on the rivet.&quot;
mate, you should be a writer]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post Cyclop&#8217;s.<br />
Love that the doctor is &#8220;Dr. Max Testa&#8221;. I&#8217;m with you on the Team BMC being a fave as well. Partly because, being an Aussie, I still have a soft spot for Goodcadel and partly because current Bike No.1 is a BMC.<br />
Merckx anecdote, just as one would expect from the Man.</p>
<p><a href="#comment-16106" class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" rel="nofollow">@Jeff in PetroMetro </a><br />
&#8220;You possess The V in spades. This can overcome the numbers when you are on the rivet.&#8221;<br />
mate, you should be a writer</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great story Cyclops!]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16097&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Buck Rogers &lt;/a&gt;
my recommendation: first find races and do them, then test later if you feel like it. Testing is not fun. Racing is.

And no max wattage/threshold number ever won a bike race - half the time the guys that win Masters races (yes, you are one) are far less &quot;fitter/stronger&quot; than other competitors but a little bit smarter (received a pointed reminder of this last night in fact). And that is what makes bike racing so fucking fantastic.

Get to a San Antonio bike shop, ask about local racing, and get involved!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-16097" class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" rel="nofollow">@Buck Rogers </a><br />
my recommendation: first find races and do them, then test later if you feel like it. Testing is not fun. Racing is.</p>
<p>And no max wattage/threshold number ever won a bike race &#8211; half the time the guys that win Masters races (yes, you are one) are far less &#8220;fitter/stronger&#8221; than other competitors but a little bit smarter (received a pointed reminder of this last night in fact). And that is what makes bike racing so fucking fantastic.</p>
<p>Get to a San Antonio bike shop, ask about local racing, and get involved!</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Question: If you get a Lactate Threshold test after 50, do they throw in for free all those other tests your supposed to have at that age? I mean, if you&#039;re already there...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question: If you get a Lactate Threshold test after 50, do they throw in for free all those other tests your supposed to have at that age? I mean, if you&#8217;re already there&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great post.  I did an LT test a year or so ago - it involved spending 4 minutes at a given wattage, four minutes spinning, four minutes at a higher wattage, four minutes spinning, etc, until I blew up.  Blood taken at the end of each four minute wattage level.  It was quite painful - my HR when I blew up was 188, which was higher than I&#039;d seen it for over a decade, even when red-lining it up hills. I thought the results were ok for an old fella.  Then I showed them to my mate who is even older, who commented that it showed I had plenty of scope to lift my AT.  Lesson: don&#039;t show your results to people who are over 50 and still manage to do the Kona Ironman in under 10 hours. The key message to me was the same as yours - train more at lower intensities. I still haven&#039;t quite got the hang of that.  Particularly as I&#039;ve given up riding with an HRM.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I did an LT test a year or so ago &#8211; it involved spending 4 minutes at a given wattage, four minutes spinning, four minutes at a higher wattage, four minutes spinning, etc, until I blew up.  Blood taken at the end of each four minute wattage level.  It was quite painful &#8211; my HR when I blew up was 188, which was higher than I&#8217;d seen it for over a decade, even when red-lining it up hills. I thought the results were ok for an old fella.  Then I showed them to my mate who is even older, who commented that it showed I had plenty of scope to lift my AT.  Lesson: don&#8217;t show your results to people who are over 50 and still manage to do the Kona Ironman in under 10 hours. The key message to me was the same as yours &#8211; train more at lower intensities. I still haven&#8217;t quite got the hang of that.  Particularly as I&#8217;ve given up riding with an HRM.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Super cool post.  Enjoyed it.

I&#039;m sure we all wonder what kind of (relative) power we pedal out.  Now you know he truth and it ain&#039;t bad.  Compared to the average 50 year old, you&#039;re Superman dude.  And that counts as real world goodness, not how that compares against pro level racers.

I&#039;m also headed towards 50, just a few months away.  Keep on riding....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Super cool post.  Enjoyed it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure we all wonder what kind of (relative) power we pedal out.  Now you know he truth and it ain&#8217;t bad.  Compared to the average 50 year old, you&#8217;re Superman dude.  And that counts as real world goodness, not how that compares against pro level racers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also headed towards 50, just a few months away.  Keep on riding&#8230;.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 17:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16107&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Buck Rogers&lt;/a&gt;
Yup, Messner is pretty much a badass.  Not without controversy, but a badass.

Nice article Cyclops. I&#039;m satisfied in knowing you pipped the local hammer.  But more to the point, did Testa ask where you got your awesome kit and t-shirt?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-16107" rel="nofollow">@Buck Rogers</a><br />
Yup, Messner is pretty much a badass.  Not without controversy, but a badass.</p>
<p>Nice article Cyclops. I&#8217;m satisfied in knowing you pipped the local hammer.  But more to the point, did Testa ask where you got your awesome kit and t-shirt?</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 17:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cyclops, very nice write-up! Thanks for being our lab rat, I&#039;d be far too scared to know what my numbers would be.]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 17:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 17:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice! I like your style, Cyclops.]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16106&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Jeff in PetroMetro &lt;/a&gt;

&quot;This can overcome the numbers when you are on the rivet.&quot;  Great point Jeff!

Makes me think of Reinhold Messner, the Merckx of high altitude climbing (made the first solo ascent of Mount Everest without supplemental oxygen and was the first climber to ascend all fourteen &quot;eight-thousanders&quot; (peaks over 8,000 metres (26,000 ft) above sea level).  They tested him inside and out in the labs trying to figure out what made him so special and able to do these amazing things and it turned out that he did not have any special physiological attributes-- just a Herculean ability to lay down The V when he wanted something.  He would NOT quit, no matter the pain.]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;This can overcome the numbers when you are on the rivet.&#8221;  Great point Jeff!</p>
<p>Makes me think of Reinhold Messner, the Merckx of high altitude climbing (made the first solo ascent of Mount Everest without supplemental oxygen and was the first climber to ascend all fourteen &#8220;eight-thousanders&#8221; (peaks over 8,000 metres (26,000 ft) above sea level).  They tested him inside and out in the labs trying to figure out what made him so special and able to do these amazing things and it turned out that he did not have any special physiological attributes&#8211; just a Herculean ability to lay down The V when he wanted something.  He would NOT quit, no matter the pain.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cyclops--way to step up to the BIG TIME!!!  Thanks for sharing your numbers with us.  That&#039;s mighty brave and shows your commitment to racing.  You are a racing motor.  You need to know your output capacity so you can improve it.  Then there is the intangible--your mind.  You possess the V in spades.  This can overcome the numbers when you are on the rivet.

KICK ASS!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyclops&#8211;way to step up to the BIG TIME!!!  Thanks for sharing your numbers with us.  That&#8217;s mighty brave and shows your commitment to racing.  You are a racing motor.  You need to know your output capacity so you can improve it.  Then there is the intangible&#8211;your mind.  You possess the V in spades.  This can overcome the numbers when you are on the rivet.</p>
<p>KICK ASS!!!!!!!!!</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[SUPER POST!  I have soooo wanted to have a LT test done.  Why?  I am a 39 year old solo trainer who lives in an area where there are NO races (but hopefully there will be a few in the San Antonio area!)--I&#039;m never goning to get the call from Guimard to come trace for him, but it is just something that I really want to do.  Really cool to have had it done. Maybe this will actually inspire me to get one this year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SUPER POST!  I have soooo wanted to have a LT test done.  Why?  I am a 39 year old solo trainer who lives in an area where there are NO races (but hopefully there will be a few in the San Antonio area!)&#8211;I&#8217;m never goning to get the call from Guimard to come trace for him, but it is just something that I really want to do.  Really cool to have had it done. Maybe this will actually inspire me to get one this year.</p>
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