http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/03/how-does-stem-length-affect-a-bikes-steering-and-handling/

Brett, I’m sorry to shatter your dreams, but this paint scheme simply did not work out. Pedestrian, bland, uninspired… a complete failure. I feel so bad to be the one to break the bad news. I really do. To make it up to you I am offering to take it off your hands. Give you a chance to start fresh and fulfill your dreams.   I’ll pay for labor, shipping, etc. It’s the least I can do. Again, I’m really sorry.

can’t blame a guy for trying.

Thanks mate, that’s really kind of you… I’ve been wondering how to deal with such a monumental fuck up.

@wilburrox

@Jaegher

@piwakawaka

Over time gears shift will not be smooth anymore and brakes will feel sticky. Changing cables won’t cure this. Internal cables will fully covered cables will always have more friction than an external cable.

I’ve been thinking exactly that. I was constantly tinkering and adjusting my DuraAce rear derailleur and could never get it shifting as well as I thought it should on my internally cabled bike. I convinced myself it was the combo of the routing around BB and back in to chain stay and then the awkward exit angle at the rear of the chain stay that created too much friction. Ultimate fix for me? Di2.

What is it about the internal routing that causes this? The increased friction?

FYI : a large part of our production is in stainless steel, either semi-painted or completely unpainted.

@piwakawaka

Over time gears shift will not be smooth anymore and brakes will feel sticky. Changing cables won’t cure this. Internal cables will fully covered cables will always have more friction than an external cable.

I’ve been thinking exactly that. I was constantly tinkering and adjusting my DuraAce rear derailleur and could never get it shifting as well as I thought it should on my internally cabled bike. I convinced myself it was the combo of the routing around BB and back in to chain stay and then the awkward exit angle at the rear of the chain stay that created too much friction. Ultimate fix for me? Di2.

@JohnB

Why not go for your ultimate combination; naked stainless steel ?!

I like your thinking. I had briefly considered 953 stainless but had it in the back of my mind that it was a more harsh than conventional and Ti. There are not so many builders working with stainless but I haven’t dug that deep yet. Time enough to give it some more serious consideration and chat with a frame builder or 2.

Why not go for your ultimate combination; naked stainless steel ?!

Used to have stainless steel cages on my bikes to sorta match material, but would sometimes lose bottles.  Often on the MTB; rare occasion on the RB.  Finally switched to same brand cages as bottles.  Perfect fit.  End of lost bottles, though a compromised aesthetic.

Really looking forward to pics of the build!

At the minute I’m agonising over the colour scheme for a new steel machine black/ grey/orange or flashes thereof against one or both of the others. However rather than make a decision that I too my regret or wish I’d thought longer about in the future, I’m wimping out and swithering towards the natural beauty of naked titanium. Timeless.

You are very welcome for a visit and ride with us and so is every Velominatus !

@piwakawaka

Over time gears shift will not be smooth anymore and brakes will feel sticky. Changing cables won’t cure this. Internal cables will fully covered cables will always have more friction than an external cable.

Thanks for your replies, I look forward to meet you guy’s one day.

Over time gears shift will not be smooth anymore and brakes will feel sticky. Changing cables won’t cure this. Internal cables will fully covered cables will always have more friction than an external cable.

@wilburrox

@brett

@Deakus

@Brett are you sold on the bottle cages or might you try orange, black or a combination/mix?

I like them, they are King Cages so I think the raw beauty of titanium needs to be on display…

I love the Ti King Cages… They work perfectly on metal frames. They’ll hold a bottle well. And when ya let go of them they’ll float away. What a stunning bike you’ll have. Cheers!

Yes, +10 on King ti.  Have them on my ti Hampsten and they look as good on your frame as on mine.

Another vote for the King Ti cages,have them on both my road bikes and they do not mark your bidons.

Not big fan of carbon cages, had issues with then not holding on to bidons securely etc plus scuff your bidons.

And for what it is worth the King cages are not related to Chris King in any way.

@piwakawaka

We have build 1000’s of frames with internal cabeling in the past. Today we stand we performance and durability. Any type of internal cabeling will cause problems in the future That’s why we don’t offer this.

thanks, is it the cables or the holes through the tubing that is the issue?

only steel is real

Chapeau – it’s gorgeous!

We have build 1000’s of frames with internal cabeling in the past. Today we stand we performance and durability. Any type of internal cabeling will cause problems in the future That’s why we don’t offer this.

Yes, the only way to get a V-Lion decal or tee shirt is to be on a KT Cobbled Classics tour. Of which this is possibly the last.

Whoa! More on that bombshell please!

Nice!

How-a-bouts a “VSP” for weight when finished? Win just bragging rights.

@Jay

@brett

@Deakus

Fuck!  Someone pass me the tissues…

@Brett are you sold on the bottle cages or might you try orange, black or a combination/mix?

I like them, they are King Cages so I think the raw beauty of titanium needs to be on display…

King headset too.  No reason to use anything else.

And King ceramic BB

Super Record cranks and ceramic BB for this build.

@Jay

I especially like the orange accents. They look stunning against the matte black finish.  The Lion of Flanders with the “V” is too cool for words.

Perhaps it will spawn a new Velominati sticker.

It sure will, If you go to a keepers tour.

Yes, the only way to get a V-Lion decal or tee shirt is to be on a KT Cobbled Classics tour. Of which this is possibly the last.

@brett

@Deakus

Fuck!  Someone pass me the tissues…

@Brett are you sold on the bottle cages or might you try orange, black or a combination/mix?

I like them, they are King Cages so I think the raw beauty of titanium needs to be on display…

King headset too.  No reason to use anything else.

And King ceramic BB

@Jay

I especially like the orange accents. They look stunning against the matte black finish.  The Lion of Flanders with the “V” is too cool for words.

Perhaps it will spawn a new Velominati sticker.

It sure will, If you go to a keepers tour.

I believe you mean “decal”

I especially like the orange accents. They look stunning against the matte black finish.  The Lion of Flanders with the “V” is too cool for words.

Perhaps it will spawn a new Velominati sticker.

It sure will, If you go to a keepers tour.

@Deakus

Fuck!  Someone pass me the tissues…

@Brett are you sold on the bottle cages or might you try orange, black or a combination/mix?

I like them, they are King Cages so I think the raw beauty of titanium needs to be on display…

King headset too.  No reason to use anything else.

Breathtakingly beautiful bike Brett! Congratulations.

+1 for the King Cages too – i have them and they are very functional and look fantastic on a grey bike.

King cages rock. I have the stainless steel version on my MTB

Perhaps it will spawn a new Velominati sticker.

+1 for the King Cages too – i have them and they are very functional and look fantastic on a grey bike.

But how will it fare in the V-bike head to head?

and the gauntlet has been thrown on the table.

@Gianni

I admit I didn’t read much of the post. I went right to the photos. Holy Shiet that is a Bel Mezzo!

Fantastic.

There’s an article?

What article, ohhh, at the top.  Gotcha.      Far Canal, thats amazing.  ENVEous.

I am digging the new number 1.  You made a wise choice on both the bike and color scheme.  It has the look of glass bead blasted Ti.  I don’t know how you can focus on anything else until that steed is in your barn.  Ride it well and then hang it on your den wall because it is a stunning piece of art.

– Sparty

Congratulations on turning your dreams into a reality, Brett!

Damn, not sure if I could handle getting a custom bike built and deciding on the color, so many options. Currently having trouble just deciding on nipple color…I’m opening myself to a hammering…

There’s two there that work brilliantly in conjunction and I can’t come up with anything! Something about sharing a commute with Frank on which he fucks himself…my brain is spinning a compact today that’s stuck on the 34T. Someone do better.

@brett

@Deakus

@Brett are you sold on the bottle cages or might you try orange, black or a combination/mix?

I like them, they are King Cages so I think the raw beauty of titanium needs to be on display…

I love the Ti King Cages… They work perfectly on metal frames. They’ll hold a bottle well. And when ya let go of them they’ll float away. What a stunning bike you’ll have. Cheers!

Yes, +10 on King ti.  Have them on my ti Hampsten and they look as good on your frame as on mine.

@Deakus

Fuck!  Someone pass me the tissues…

@Brett are you sold on the bottle cages or might you try orange, black or a combination/mix?

I like them, they are King Cages so I think the raw beauty of titanium needs to be on display…

I love the Ti King Cages… They work perfectly on metal frames. They’ll hold a bottle well. And when ya let go of them they’ll float away. What a stunning bike you’ll have. Cheers!

Fuck!  Someone pass me the tissues…

@Brett are you sold on the bottle cages or might you try orange, black or a combination/mix?

I like them, they are King Cages so I think the raw beauty of titanium needs to be on display…

Damn, not sure if I could handle getting a custom bike built and deciding on the color, so many options. Currently having trouble just deciding on nipple color for a new wheelset. (I’m sure I’m opening myself to a hammering by putting those two words together, ah well).

@Gianni

I admit I didn’t read much of the post. I went right to the photos. Holy Shiet that is a Bel Mezzo!

Fantastic.

There’s an article?

As I was writing I’m thinking “no-one’s gonna read this… just post the photos.”

@Brett That is stunning. You’re going to have to ride the full distances for Paris Roubaix and the the Ronde now, though, to do it the justice it deserves.

Oh really? Damn, I’ll have to set out the night before…

I admit I didn’t read much of the post. I went right to the photos. Holy Shiet that is a Bel Mezzo!

Fantastic.

There’s an article?

@Brett are you sold on the bottle cages or might you try orange, black or a combination/mix?

Fantastic.

Time to wipe the drool off my keyboard.

I can appreciate the nervousness, but — good choice.