On the other hand, I’m impressed that you go down Perkins Lane and up Raye. I went the other way today and I think I need to take it in the other direction to get the full experience.

The ride we call the “Double” (pronounced doo-bluh) combines the two routes. It’s only 75km, but it’s a monster, climbing-wise. We should catch up for a ride one of these days.

http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/wa/seattle/647905883

This map appears to be from before the climb up Golden Gardens was opened up again; we pop down to Shilshole and then up Golden Gardens. We’ve aslo mod’d the ride back to sneak in a better climb. I’ll update the route one of these days…

Today was supposed to be my easy day, but I took two climbs in there. I didn’t have any meter so I have no idea how much climbing it added up to, but I think I’ll try to sketch out a route and use it as a climbing-only ride.

Or someone too lazy to fix his broken rear derailleur cable.

@frank
I’m still struggling with this one, too. But I think it’s inner truth is the essence of a true hardman…

I can’t count lower than 53 or higher than 11.

There is a deep truth in that contradicting statement that I’m going to to have to think about for a long time.

@Souleur
I know what you mean. I can’t count lower than 53 or higher than 11.

As usual the cheekiness of my comments is lost in the literal translation of the typed word. Joshua and I are just throwing jabs out left over from the ride, all in fun of course. Very cool ride with good friends. And Frank’s right, he was the fattest guy in the group.

I like ‘mapmyride’. Its a good site, used it for about 3 yrs now. The one downer to it is the elevation. I for one do not find its elevation ticker to be either helpful other than telling you in a very big way where hills and climbs are, but in terms of overall numbers it doesn’t tell you alot. The percentages it lays down are inaccurate and the overall ascent/descent is bogus, but trends are alright.

I’ve noticed the same thing; this post picture here is captured from one of their earlier versions, and the new version is skewed in the opposite direction. It’s really brutally hard to get this kind of thing right, and I’m not sure why they try. Showing the profile is one thing, but I’m not sure why they try to attach numbers. (For example, the start/stop is at the same spot but the plot here shows a differnt amount of accent vs. descent.)

This one is about 30% too generous from what Jim’s GPS plots, and my old Polar altimeter (which I haven’t used in years) had it at something like 3000m but I think that was so far off because the air pressure changes so dramatically when you’re in the Marine Layer.

At the end of the day, this is a great, really hard route with lots of climbing, but it’s not as brutal as this shows. At the time I wrote this post three years ago, it certainly felt more accurate as I was hauling myself back into some semblance of form.

1. Oh, Frank! This doesn’t sound good. Any of it. Not good at all. Poor form.

None of it’s true. They’re making it all up to make themselves feel better for being outclimbed by the biggest guy in the group.

I for one was on an unfamiliar group ride last night, shown good hospitality and was the oldest one. I was also the first one back from the turn around point. I relished in pushing when I knew it was time and riding when it wasn’t when the younger ones were pedaling squares. Marko is right, you need to know when to push, and when not to…

I like ‘mapmyride’. Its a good site, used it for about 3 yrs now. The one downer to it is the elevation. I for one do not find its elevation ticker to be either helpful other than telling you in a very big way where hills and climbs are, but in terms of overall numbers it doesn’t tell you alot. The percentages it lays down are inaccurate and the overall ascent/descent is bogus, but trends are alright.

Steampunk : wtine

Chapeau

1. Oh, Frank! This doesn’t sound good. Any of it. Not good at all. Poor form.

2. Although, Joshua: triple? And you need your Garmin GPS to know where you’re going? Pretty weak, my friend. Beer in the bidons and bacon sounded good, but now it sounds like show-boating and the cognoscenti frown on that sort of thing. HTFU. (But I was carrying it for extra weight! Uh huh).

3. I’ll give you a pass, Marko, but that passive aggressive whinge at the end has got to stop. It’s very Canadian and we don’t take well to pretenders to our crown.

Sounds like y’all need some cheese to go with that wtine.

And then there’s the strategy of dropping your friends by not telling them where to turn on a route they’ve never ridden.

Sigt…

The mark of a genius is evident in the subtlety of that comment.

Ok, Ok, we’re just going off the data that Jim’s GPS gives us. I’m not smart enough to question technology.

And all this talk of “expecting” another switchback…you know we rode DOWN the hill before riding UP it, right? I mean, you actually rode the entire hill before turning around to go back up. So, this mystical switchback – did you think the road was going to reconfigure itself before we headed back up?

I also find it interesting that all this tough talk about this climb is coming from one guy who rode it in a triple, and the other guy who rode it in a compact. Forget to mention that bid, did we?

Steampunk :@Marko
And I once caught a fist “this” big!

I was really thinking this site has changed in the short time I’ve been here…

Steampunk :@Geof
Oh dear God! Fish! I said fish! Dumb, stupid qwerty keyboard.

Dude, the “H” uses the right hand and the “T” uses the left. Fess up, you caught the fist didn’t you?

Just wondering, how do you find riding in the city. I’m currently a student in a city (yes a real city, with a cathedral) of 45,000 people. And it takes a maximum of 10 minutes to get out of the city onto country roads or drafting cars on the dual carriageway.