Dialing in the Stable

This was going to be an article about Rule #45.

It is amazing how much time is wasted and matches burned when professionals stop for that second bike change to get back on their #1. With all the jigs available to team mechanics it would seem they could set up five bikes exactly the same. And yet, when the whole body gets used to a position, if something is off, everything is off. It’s not as easy as it should be, even when dealing with the same frame model and size.

The Velominati never have two of the same frames so it really complicates duplicating position. I’ve been using L. Zinn’s approach on this problem. By using the bottom bracket as the point of reference, this stack and reach method is pretty nice. I use a “story pole” as the carpenters call them, a blank wooden stick where each dimension is marked and labeled. It removes the math mistakes, mostly, and is a permanent graphic record of each bike all on one piece of wood.

I never ride my #2 bike anymore. It was going to be my rain bike but I ride #1 all the time, rain or shine. It’s lighter, the 11 speed gruppo is so much newer and nicer that the worn 10 speed of #2. But I just rode #2 and finished the ride thinking that stem is too low, too bad I cut the steerer so low, damn you Rule #45. So I mess around with bathroom scales weighing how much more weight ends up on the front end of a bike if your bars are too low. Then dig out my stack and reach stick and discover the bars are exactly the same height almost to the millimeter. Oh, FFS, another story out the window. The difference was the saddle angle. My weird SMP saddles are very hard to eyeball without a level. The #2 was tipped forward a little thus more weight on the bars, different handling, same problem, different cause. How much is too much weight on the front end? That is a complicated question, too much for this post

Contador’s saddle is tipped forward, Qunitana’s level as could be. Mass confusion! We will leave that for another day but if you want to eliminate some error in duplicating your bike set up, you could do worse than the stack and reach and a story pole.

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  • I'm one of these weirdos who still rides steel bikes (you only have two?!?!?!?) with horizontal top tubes. While I think I understand the concept of stack and reach, can you give a couple examples of how you use your stick (what is marked, and where)? Note that the link to Leonard Zinn's essay works, but (at least for me) all the images are busted.

  • I have a Colnago CX-1 with (Di2-with older 10 speed shifters and a C-60 with 11 speed mechanical. The latter is set up with an extra spacer (more comfortable climbing/descending) and I ride both of them about equal amounts. The legs feel the exact same on each bike but naturally, the hands feel the difference between the size of the brifters. Five minutes into a ride and everything feels good and normal when I switch from one to the other. I have not fussed with trying to have them the exact same and I could be wrong in this but a bit of variation may not be a bad thing. Maybe...

  • @osbk67

    The right tool for the right job. Bernard Hinault’s mechanic Alain Descroix gets it right in the mid-80s…

    Back then I used to angst about all this carry-on, until I realised that I was probably making seat height adjustments smaller than the difference between different brands of bib shorts. Or that I should incrementally raise seat height to offset for compression of the saddle over its life cycle. Beyond that, I’ve read more than once that humans lose up to a cm of height between waking up and the end of the day. Adjust position between an early morning road race and twilight criterium perhaps…?

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    I swear I'm shrinking from having a desk job and sitting too much, even though I make sure to get up frequently! Even saw a friend last week who I haven't seen in awhile. I always thought I was taller, he seemed to be! And he doesn't have a desk job!

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