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		By: therealpeel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2015 19:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-793478&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@The Grande Fondue&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Fuck drugs. Get guns.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://d7ab823tjbf2qywyt3grgq63.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/The Grande Fondue/2015.01.31.02.55.51/1//The Grande Fondue-2015.01.31.02.55.51-1-sean1.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Indeed. Cyclists looking badass like that makes me a little weak in the knees.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment-author-reply" href="#comment-793478" rel="nofollow">@The Grande Fondue</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Fuck drugs. Get guns.</p>
<p><img src="http://d7ab823tjbf2qywyt3grgq63.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/The Grande Fondue/2015.01.31.02.55.51/1//The Grande Fondue-2015.01.31.02.55.51-1-sean1.jpg" alt="" /></p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed. Cyclists looking badass like that makes me a little weak in the knees.</p>
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		By: The Grande Fondue		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Grande Fondue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2015 10:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fuck drugs. Get guns.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/The Grande Fondue/2015.01.31.02.55.51/1//The Grande Fondue-2015.01.31.02.55.51-1-sean1.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck drugs. Get guns.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/The Grande Fondue/2015.01.31.02.55.51/1//The Grande Fondue-2015.01.31.02.55.51-1-sean1.jpg" alt="" /></p>
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		By: Oli		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There will never be a time of no suspicion, and if we were foolish enough to think there was the whole sport would revert back to how it was in the bad old days. I don&#039;t believe this means that guys like Talansky can&#039;t get frustrated with the constant line of questioning though, just as his frustration shouldn&#039;t prevent us from being suspicious; either he&#039;s clean - in which case why shouldn&#039;t he be frustrated with the suspicion? - or he&#039;s dirty and hopefully we find out one day.

 

Also, it sounds familiar because there are only so many words or phrases available in the English language to proclaim your innocence, and when Armstrong said those things there was no Armstrong Lie to add a context - Talansky has the history to understand the ramifications of the lie that Armstrong couldn&#039;t...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will never be a time of no suspicion, and if we were foolish enough to think there was the whole sport would revert back to how it was in the bad old days. I don&#8217;t believe this means that guys like Talansky can&#8217;t get frustrated with the constant line of questioning though, just as his frustration shouldn&#8217;t prevent us from being suspicious; either he&#8217;s clean &#8211; in which case why shouldn&#8217;t he be frustrated with the suspicion? &#8211; or he&#8217;s dirty and hopefully we find out one day.</p>
<p>Also, it sounds familiar because there are only so many words or phrases available in the English language to proclaim your innocence, and when Armstrong said those things there was no Armstrong Lie to add a context &#8211; Talansky has the history to understand the ramifications of the lie that Armstrong couldn&#8217;t&#8230;</p>
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		By: wiscot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 23:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-792932&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@brett&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Sound familiar? Excerpts from the Talansky bullshit file:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.29.11.09.40/3//brett-2015.01.29.11.09.40-3-Screen Shot 2015-01-30 at 8.24.43 AM.png?fa894f&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.29.11.09.40/3/.cache/600x268x0_brett-2015.01.29.11.09.40-3-Screen Shot 2015-01-30 at 8.24.43 AM.png?fa894f&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.29.11.09.40/4//brett-2015.01.29.11.09.40-4-Screen Shot 2015-01-30 at 8.24.04 AM.png?fa894f&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.29.11.09.40/4/.cache/600x118x0_brett-2015.01.29.11.09.40-4-Screen Shot 2015-01-30 at 8.24.04 AM.png?fa894f&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.29.11.09.40/2//brett-2015.01.29.11.09.40-2-Screen Shot 2015-01-30 at 8.25.36 AM.png?fa894f&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.29.11.09.40/2/.cache/600x98x0_brett-2015.01.29.11.09.40-2-Screen Shot 2015-01-30 at 8.25.36 AM.png?fa894f&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/09/news/talansky-on-vuelta-wiggins-and-calling-out-andy-jacques-maynes_238114&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Full interview here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I think if AT had placed more emphasis on &quot;this generation&quot; his quote would have been better. I still think the riders have to prove it to the fans by returning several seasons without a whiff of suspicion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-792932" rel="nofollow">@brett</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Sound familiar? Excerpts from the Talansky bullshit file:</p>
<p><a href="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.29.11.09.40/3//brett-2015.01.29.11.09.40-3-Screen Shot 2015-01-30 at 8.24.43 AM.png?fa894f" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.29.11.09.40/3/.cache/600x268x0_brett-2015.01.29.11.09.40-3-Screen Shot 2015-01-30 at 8.24.43 AM.png?fa894f" alt="" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.29.11.09.40/4//brett-2015.01.29.11.09.40-4-Screen Shot 2015-01-30 at 8.24.04 AM.png?fa894f" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.29.11.09.40/4/.cache/600x118x0_brett-2015.01.29.11.09.40-4-Screen Shot 2015-01-30 at 8.24.04 AM.png?fa894f" alt="" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.29.11.09.40/2//brett-2015.01.29.11.09.40-2-Screen Shot 2015-01-30 at 8.25.36 AM.png?fa894f" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.29.11.09.40/2/.cache/600x98x0_brett-2015.01.29.11.09.40-2-Screen Shot 2015-01-30 at 8.25.36 AM.png?fa894f" alt="" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/09/news/talansky-on-vuelta-wiggins-and-calling-out-andy-jacques-maynes_238114" rel="nofollow">Full interview here</a></p></blockquote>
<p>I think if AT had placed more emphasis on &#8220;this generation&#8221; his quote would have been better. I still think the riders have to prove it to the fans by returning several seasons without a whiff of suspicion.</p>
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		By: Scott		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 19:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792202&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@wiscot&lt;/a&gt;

I remember vividly the faces portrayed in Winning Bicycle Racing magazine from the early 90&#039;s.

I would get copies from what I now know to be an early sensei, he would thumb through them and pass them on to me.

One thing that I still recall are all the contorted smiles even in the midst of the greatest efforts.]]></description>
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<p>I remember vividly the faces portrayed in Winning Bicycle Racing magazine from the early 90&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I would get copies from what I now know to be an early sensei, he would thumb through them and pass them on to me.</p>
<p>One thing that I still recall are all the contorted smiles even in the midst of the greatest efforts.</p>
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		By: brett		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 19:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sound familiar? Excerpts from the Talansky bullshit file:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.29.11.09.40/3//brett-2015.01.29.11.09.40-3-Screen Shot 2015-01-30 at 8.24.43 AM.png&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.29.11.09.40/4//brett-2015.01.29.11.09.40-4-Screen Shot 2015-01-30 at 8.24.04 AM.png&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.29.11.09.40/2//brett-2015.01.29.11.09.40-2-Screen Shot 2015-01-30 at 8.25.36 AM.png&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/09/news/talansky-on-vuelta-wiggins-and-calling-out-andy-jacques-maynes_238114&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Full interview here&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sound familiar? Excerpts from the Talansky bullshit file:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.29.11.09.40/3//brett-2015.01.29.11.09.40-3-Screen Shot 2015-01-30 at 8.24.43 AM.png" alt="" /></p>
<p><img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.29.11.09.40/4//brett-2015.01.29.11.09.40-4-Screen Shot 2015-01-30 at 8.24.04 AM.png" alt="" /></p>
<p><img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.29.11.09.40/2//brett-2015.01.29.11.09.40-2-Screen Shot 2015-01-30 at 8.25.36 AM.png" alt="" /></p>
<p><a href="http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/09/news/talansky-on-vuelta-wiggins-and-calling-out-andy-jacques-maynes_238114" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Full interview here</a></p>
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		By: wiscot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 18:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess I was hoping &quot;lessons might have been learned&quot; but  apparently not. Why any cyclist would want to be seen in Armstrong&#039;s company baffles me. I mean, he just said that he&#039;d dope all over again, just not do the comeback.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I was hoping &#8220;lessons might have been learned&#8221; but  apparently not. Why any cyclist would want to be seen in Armstrong&#8217;s company baffles me. I mean, he just said that he&#8217;d dope all over again, just not do the comeback.</p>
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		By: VeloVita		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 16:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792839&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@wiscot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;When you sleep with dogs, don&#039;t be surprised if you get up with fleas. Can&#039;t believe BMC wouldn&#039;t nip that shit in the bud.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Andy Riis owned Phonak as well....Hamilton, Landis...would you really be THAT surprised?]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>When you sleep with dogs, don&#8217;t be surprised if you get up with fleas. Can&#8217;t believe BMC wouldn&#8217;t nip that shit in the bud.</p></blockquote>
<p>Andy Riis owned Phonak as well&#8230;.Hamilton, Landis&#8230;would you really be THAT surprised?</p>
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		By: KogaLover		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 14:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Winnen must have been thinking about rule #6 &quot;free your mind and your legs will follow&quot; or was he just looking casually deliberate? I think he looks awesome!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winnen must have been thinking about  <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#6">Rule #6</a> &#8220;free your mind and your legs will follow&#8221; or was he just looking <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#casually deliberate">casually deliberate</a>? I think he looks awesome!</p>
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		By: wiscot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Say what? Winnen looking shit? Shurely shome mishtake? Who&#039;s the BMC rider in the orange jersey posted above? THAT is looking shit.

As for Talansky, if what&#039;s been posted is true (those comments) then he&#039;s just gone way down in my regard. Riders owe it to their fans to give them reason to believe in them. Hey, Talansky, who buys the products advertized on your kit that pays your wages? Oh, yeah, fans. You owe them, not the other way around.

TvG training with Armstrong? Why not go for a nice espresso with Dr Ferrari? It&#039;s just coffee? Boy&#039;s a fool. When you sleep with dogs, don&#039;t be surprised if you get up with fleas. Can&#039;t believe BMC wouldn&#039;t nip that shit in the bud.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say what? Winnen looking shit? Shurely shome mishtake? Who&#8217;s the BMC rider in the orange jersey posted above? THAT is looking shit.</p>
<p>As for Talansky, if what&#8217;s been posted is true (those comments) then he&#8217;s just gone way down in my regard. Riders owe it to their fans to give them reason to believe in them. Hey, Talansky, who buys the products advertized on your kit that pays your wages? Oh, yeah, fans. You owe them, not the other way around.</p>
<p>TvG training with Armstrong? Why not go for a nice espresso with Dr Ferrari? It&#8217;s just coffee? Boy&#8217;s a fool. When you sleep with dogs, don&#8217;t be surprised if you get up with fleas. Can&#8217;t believe BMC wouldn&#8217;t nip that shit in the bud.</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 12:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792684&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@wilburrox&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Speaking of spring classics and snapshots... my favorite from last year. SPRING CLASSICS ARE FOR BADASSES. I love this one:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/wilburrox/2015.01.28.17.42.15/1//wilburrox-2015.01.28.17.42.15-1-image.php.jpeg?fa894f&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;g&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Awesome photo. Old school rule 9 racing.]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>Speaking of spring classics and snapshots&#8230; my favorite from last year. SPRING CLASSICS ARE FOR BADASSES. I love this one:</p>
<p><img src="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/wilburrox/2015.01.28.17.42.15/1//wilburrox-2015.01.28.17.42.15-1-image.php.jpeg?fa894f" alt="" />g</p></blockquote>
<p>Awesome photo. Old school  <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#9">Rule #9</a> racing.</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 11:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792783&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@brett&lt;/a&gt;

Tejay van Garderen has also gone down in my estimation since the recent Rouleur article mentioned that he was training with Armstrong.

Surely anyone must realise that their credibility will be fucked by association regardless of what they were actually doing.]]></description>
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<p>Tejay van Garderen has also gone down in my estimation since the recent Rouleur article mentioned that he was training with Armstrong.</p>
<p>Surely anyone must realise that their credibility will be fucked by association regardless of what they were actually doing.</p>
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		By: Marxten		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you want to see someone looking shit, look no further than &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fiets.nl/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/CORVOS_00011827-033.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Peter Winnen&lt;/a&gt;.

He once got into trouble because of that, his team leader kept thinking he was looking at the ladies on the side of the road.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to see someone looking shit, look no further than <a href="http://www.fiets.nl/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/CORVOS_00011827-033.jpg" rel="nofollow">Peter Winnen</a>.</p>
<p>He once got into trouble because of that, his team leader kept thinking he was looking at the ladies on the side of the road.</p>
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		By: brett		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 08:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792635&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Pedale.Forchetta&lt;/a&gt;

I have a dislike for Talansky after an interview he did a couple of years ago, basically he was defending Armstrong and made the statement that &quot;fans owe it to the riders to believe in them&quot;. Sounded like soundbites straight out of the COTHO handbook. He reiterated the same sentiments in a consequent interview. Fans don&#039;t owe anything to riders, riders need to make us believe... statements like his only reinforce the belief that there is still something rotten in Denmark.]]></description>
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<p>I have a dislike for Talansky after an interview he did a couple of years ago, basically he was defending Armstrong and made the statement that &#8220;fans owe it to the riders to believe in them&#8221;. Sounded like soundbites straight out of the <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#COTHO">COTHO</a> handbook. He reiterated the same sentiments in a consequent interview. Fans don&#8217;t owe anything to riders, riders need to make us believe&#8230; statements like his only reinforce the belief that there is still something rotten in Denmark.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 02:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792696&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Beers&lt;/a&gt;

TdF Stage 5 was beyond cool and Boom&#039;s performance was simply looney tunes impressive. He smashed it. The images captured in the photos, I dig the one of Porte on Thomas&#039; wheel and all tattered and torn, can&#039;t help but make me think I&#039;m not worthy.

I love this time of year coming up!]]></description>
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<p>TdF Stage 5 was beyond cool and Boom&#8217;s performance was simply looney tunes impressive. He smashed it. The images captured in the photos, I dig the one of Porte on Thomas&#8217; wheel and all tattered and torn, can&#8217;t help but make me think I&#8217;m not worthy.</p>
<p>I love this time of year coming up!</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 02:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-792684&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@wilburrox&lt;/a&gt;

Yes, that was a fantastic finale also. Sadly so much promise unfulfilled last season, hopefully more to come this year from a few new&#039;er&#039; classics specialists. GvA also a highlight for me last year.

Apologies for the pic post fail.]]></description>
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<p>Yes, that was a fantastic finale also. Sadly so much promise unfulfilled last season, hopefully more to come this year from a few new&#8217;er&#8217; classics specialists. GvA also a highlight for me last year.</p>
<p>Apologies for the pic post fail.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 02:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/Barracuda/2015.01.28.18.18.58/1//Barracuda-2015.01.28.18.18.58-1-Richie stalking TDU 2015.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;

Richie stalking Cadel, last lap up Willunga !]]></description>
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<p>Richie stalking Cadel, last lap up Willunga !</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 01:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of spring classics and snapshots... my favorite from last year. SPRING CLASSICS ARE FOR BADASSES. I love this one:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/wilburrox/2015.01.28.17.42.15/1//wilburrox-2015.01.28.17.42.15-1-image.php.jpeg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;g]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of spring classics and snapshots&#8230; my favorite from last year. SPRING CLASSICS ARE FOR BADASSES. I love this one:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/wilburrox/2015.01.28.17.42.15/1//wilburrox-2015.01.28.17.42.15-1-image.php.jpeg" alt="" />g</p>
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		By: Pedale.Forchetta		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2015 22:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792611&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@brett&lt;/a&gt;

Ahah! Yeah it could be!

Actually I hope to have the chance to take some photos of Richie Porte at the next Giro.]]></description>
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<p>Ahah! Yeah it could be!</p>
<p>Actually I hope to have the chance to take some photos of Richie Porte at the next Giro.</p>
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		By: wiscot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2015 22:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s another set of images from this year&#039;s Tour, Stage 5. Sunnies off and you can really read the effort and emotion.

http://www.steephill.tv/2014/tour-de-france/photos/stage-05/#294-IMG_0341.jpg]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another set of images from this year&#8217;s Tour, Stage 5. Sunnies off and you can really read the effort and emotion.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.steephill.tv/2014/tour-de-france/photos/stage-05/#294-IMG_0341.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.steephill.tv/2014/tour-de-france/photos/stage-05/#294-IMG_0341.jpg</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2015 21:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792307&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@The Grande Fondue&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply vm_anchor&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792281&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@pistard&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply vm_anchor vm_anchor&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792188&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ped&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply vm_anchor vm_anchor&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792202&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@wiscot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;You know, when helmets and sunglasses became de rigeur in the peloton, something was lost in our ability to really connect. Look at Plankaert&#039;s face. That&#039;s a man whose gas light is flashing and his check engine light has just come on. And he&#039;s ignoring them both.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I had to put those two pics side by side to compare. Emotion, humanity, Kodachrome warmth. Corporate, digital, robots. Sure, it&#039;s partly nostalgia, but photographers definitely have a harder job capturing emotion under sunnies and helmets, and I expect contemporary riders aren&#039;t allowed to express much individual character anyway.

&lt;a class=&quot;vm_inlineimg vm_linkablecontent&quot; href=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.18.29.36/1//pistard-2015.01.27.18.29.36-1-sidebyeach.jpg?eb457a&quot; rel=&quot;lightbox&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img class=&quot;vm_inlineimage&quot; src=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.18.29.36/1/.cache/600x220x0_pistard-2015.01.27.18.29.36-1-sidebyeach.jpg?eb457a&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Hmm.

&lt;a class=&quot;vm_inlineimg&quot; href=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/The Grande Fondue/2015.01.27.19.15.29/1//The Grande Fondue-2015.01.27.19.15.29-1-625871-bfbb74fa-a381-11e4-a81d-8d872353903b.jpg?fa894f&quot; rel=&quot;lightbox&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/The Grande Fondue/2015.01.27.19.15.29/1/.cache/600x450x0_The Grande Fondue-2015.01.27.19.15.29-1-625871-bfbb74fa-a381-11e4-a81d-8d872353903b.jpg?fa894f&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
He gives good pain face, but I see your glasses covered pain face and raise you a stage 5 TdF.

http://images.cyclingtips.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/2014-Tour-de-France-Stage-5-16.jpg]]></description>
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<blockquote><p><a class="comment-author-reply vm_anchor" href="#comment-792281" rel="nofollow">@pistard</a></p>
<blockquote><p><a class="comment-author-reply vm_anchor vm_anchor" href="#comment-792188" rel="nofollow">@ped</a></p>
<p><a class="comment-author-reply vm_anchor vm_anchor" href="#comment-792202" rel="nofollow">@wiscot</a></p>
<blockquote><p>You know, when helmets and sunglasses became de rigeur in the peloton, something was lost in our ability to really connect. Look at Plankaert&#8217;s face. That&#8217;s a man whose gas light is flashing and his check engine light has just come on. And he&#8217;s ignoring them both.</p></blockquote>
<p>I had to put those two pics side by side to compare. Emotion, humanity, Kodachrome warmth. Corporate, digital, robots. Sure, it&#8217;s partly nostalgia, but photographers definitely have a harder job capturing emotion under sunnies and helmets, and I expect contemporary riders aren&#8217;t allowed to express much individual character anyway.</p>
<p><a class="vm_inlineimg vm_linkablecontent" href="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.18.29.36/1//pistard-2015.01.27.18.29.36-1-sidebyeach.jpg?eb457a" rel="lightbox" rel="nofollow"><img class="vm_inlineimage" src="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.18.29.36/1/.cache/600x220x0_pistard-2015.01.27.18.29.36-1-sidebyeach.jpg?eb457a" alt="" /></a></p></blockquote>
<p>Hmm.</p>
<p><a class="vm_inlineimg" href="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/The Grande Fondue/2015.01.27.19.15.29/1//The Grande Fondue-2015.01.27.19.15.29-1-625871-bfbb74fa-a381-11e4-a81d-8d872353903b.jpg?fa894f" rel="lightbox" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/The Grande Fondue/2015.01.27.19.15.29/1/.cache/600x450x0_The Grande Fondue-2015.01.27.19.15.29-1-625871-bfbb74fa-a381-11e4-a81d-8d872353903b.jpg?fa894f" alt="" /></a></p></blockquote>
<p>He gives good pain face, but I see your glasses covered pain face and raise you a stage 5 TdF.</p>
<p><a href="http://images.cyclingtips.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/2014-Tour-de-France-Stage-5-16.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://images.cyclingtips.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/2014-Tour-de-France-Stage-5-16.jpg</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2015 21:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;Dick face, Andrew Talansky - Il Lombardia 2012&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Fixed your post.]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>Dick face, Andrew Talansky &#8211; Il Lombardia 2012</p></blockquote>
<p>Fixed your post.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2015 20:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Moser will be wearing wool shorts which rode up no matter how much you didn&#039;t want them to.]]></description>
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		By: Teocalli		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2015 20:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thought these worth posting......different weather for Spring Classics

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought these worth posting&#8230;&#8230;different weather for Spring Classics</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2015 19:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Suffering face, Andrew Talansky - Il Lombardia 2012

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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2015 15:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do you think anyone had the nerve to give it to Moser about the length of his shorts? A little playful ribbing at the start line.]]></description>
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		By: The Grande Fondue		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2015 10:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792317&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@pistard&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply vm_anchor&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792307&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@The Grande Fondue&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;
TouchÃ©, but I still think the eyes have it. I miss seeing the shift too:

&lt;a class=&quot;vm_inlineimg&quot; href=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.20.12.59/2//pistard-2015.01.27.20.12.59-2-29f979cb12d2dc019696cb2313b0dd66.jpg?eb457a&quot; rel=&quot;lightbox&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.20.12.59/2/.cache/600x531x0_pistard-2015.01.27.20.12.59-2-29f979cb12d2dc019696cb2313b0dd66.jpg?eb457a&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Oh, it&#039;s on.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/The Grande Fondue/2015.01.28.02.25.04/1//The Grande Fondue-2015.01.28.02.25.04-1-SPTDW6071.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;

(Ignoring for the moment that J-Rod always takes his glasses off...)]]></description>
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<p>TouchÃ©, but I still think the eyes have it. I miss seeing the shift too:</p>
<p><a class="vm_inlineimg" href="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.20.12.59/2//pistard-2015.01.27.20.12.59-2-29f979cb12d2dc019696cb2313b0dd66.jpg?eb457a" rel="lightbox" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.20.12.59/2/.cache/600x531x0_pistard-2015.01.27.20.12.59-2-29f979cb12d2dc019696cb2313b0dd66.jpg?eb457a" alt="" /></a></p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, it&#8217;s on.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/The Grande Fondue/2015.01.28.02.25.04/1//The Grande Fondue-2015.01.28.02.25.04-1-SPTDW6071.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>(Ignoring for the moment that J-Rod always takes his glasses off&#8230;)</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2015 08:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Porte has the Goldilocks Principle sorted at least. Dennis looks like he&#039;s off to school.

And Cuddles needs to keep riding... those guns are going to waste.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Porte has the <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#Goldilocks Principle">Goldilocks Principle</a> sorted at least. Dennis looks like he&#8217;s off to school.</p>
<p>And <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#Cuddles">Cuddles</a> needs to keep riding&#8230; those guns are going to waste.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2015 04:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richie does a good pain face, &quot;I&#039;m about to take a few big bites of the V, are you coming with me?&quot;

Cuddles has his tongue in cheek thing going one last time, Rohan Dennis seems pretty OK with the whole thing and everyone else just gritting the teeth.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/markpa/2015.01.27.20.42.40/1//markpa-2015.01.27.20.42.40-1-CORVOS_00024384-014[1].jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;

from http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/01/porte-climbs-to-stage-5-win-in-the-tour-down-under-dennis-retains-overall-lead/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richie does a good pain face, &#8220;I&#8217;m about to take a few big bites of the V, are you coming with me?&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#Cuddles">Cuddles</a> has his tongue in cheek thing going one last time, Rohan Dennis seems pretty OK with the whole thing and everyone else just gritting the teeth.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/markpa/2015.01.27.20.42.40/1//markpa-2015.01.27.20.42.40-1-CORVOS_00024384-014[1].jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>from http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/01/porte-climbs-to-stage-5-win-in-the-tour-down-under-dennis-retains-overall-lead/</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2015 04:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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That&#039;s a good image but still lacks a certain feel. That aside it was a great stage to watch at TDU. I am finding a fondness for the earliest races of the year. They seem to wet the whistle just in time for the classics.]]></description>
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<p>That&#8217;s a good image but still lacks a certain feel. That aside it was a great stage to watch at TDU. I am finding a fondness for the earliest races of the year. They seem to wet the whistle just in time for the classics.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2015 04:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply vm_anchor&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792281&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@pistard&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply vm_anchor vm_anchor&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792188&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ped&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply vm_anchor vm_anchor&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792202&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@wiscot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;You know, when helmets and sunglasses became de rigeur in the peloton, something was lost in our ability to really connect. Look at Plankaert&#039;s face. That&#039;s a man whose gas light is flashing and his check engine light has just come on. And he&#039;s ignoring them both.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I had to put those two pics side by side to compare. Emotion, humanity, Kodachrome warmth. Corporate, digital, robots. Sure, it&#039;s partly nostalgia, but photographers definitely have a harder job capturing emotion under sunnies and helmets, and I expect contemporary riders aren&#039;t allowed to express much individual character anyway.

&lt;a class=&quot;vm_inlineimg vm_linkablecontent&quot; href=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.18.29.36/1//pistard-2015.01.27.18.29.36-1-sidebyeach.jpg?eb457a&quot; rel=&quot;lightbox&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img class=&quot;vm_inlineimage&quot; src=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.18.29.36/1/.cache/600x220x0_pistard-2015.01.27.18.29.36-1-sidebyeach.jpg?eb457a&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Hmm.

&lt;a class=&quot;vm_inlineimg&quot; href=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/The Grande Fondue/2015.01.27.19.15.29/1//The Grande Fondue-2015.01.27.19.15.29-1-625871-bfbb74fa-a381-11e4-a81d-8d872353903b.jpg?eb457a&quot; rel=&quot;lightbox&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/The Grande Fondue/2015.01.27.19.15.29/1/.cache/600x450x0_The Grande Fondue-2015.01.27.19.15.29-1-625871-bfbb74fa-a381-11e4-a81d-8d872353903b.jpg?eb457a&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
TouchÃ©, but I still think the eyes have it. I miss seeing the shift too:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.20.12.59/2//pistard-2015.01.27.20.12.59-2-29f979cb12d2dc019696cb2313b0dd66.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;]]></description>
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<blockquote><p><a class="comment-author-reply vm_anchor" href="#comment-792281" rel="nofollow">@pistard</a></p>
<blockquote><p><a class="comment-author-reply vm_anchor vm_anchor" href="#comment-792188" rel="nofollow">@ped</a></p>
<p><a class="comment-author-reply vm_anchor vm_anchor" href="#comment-792202" rel="nofollow">@wiscot</a></p>
<blockquote><p>You know, when helmets and sunglasses became de rigeur in the peloton, something was lost in our ability to really connect. Look at Plankaert&#8217;s face. That&#8217;s a man whose gas light is flashing and his check engine light has just come on. And he&#8217;s ignoring them both.</p></blockquote>
<p>I had to put those two pics side by side to compare. Emotion, humanity, Kodachrome warmth. Corporate, digital, robots. Sure, it&#8217;s partly nostalgia, but photographers definitely have a harder job capturing emotion under sunnies and helmets, and I expect contemporary riders aren&#8217;t allowed to express much individual character anyway.</p>
<p><a class="vm_inlineimg vm_linkablecontent" href="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.18.29.36/1//pistard-2015.01.27.18.29.36-1-sidebyeach.jpg?eb457a" rel="lightbox" rel="nofollow"><img class="vm_inlineimage" src="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.18.29.36/1/.cache/600x220x0_pistard-2015.01.27.18.29.36-1-sidebyeach.jpg?eb457a" alt="" /></a></p></blockquote>
<p>Hmm.</p>
<p><a class="vm_inlineimg" href="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/The Grande Fondue/2015.01.27.19.15.29/1//The Grande Fondue-2015.01.27.19.15.29-1-625871-bfbb74fa-a381-11e4-a81d-8d872353903b.jpg?eb457a" rel="lightbox" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/The Grande Fondue/2015.01.27.19.15.29/1/.cache/600x450x0_The Grande Fondue-2015.01.27.19.15.29-1-625871-bfbb74fa-a381-11e4-a81d-8d872353903b.jpg?eb457a" alt="" /></a></p></blockquote>
<p>TouchÃ©, but I still think the eyes have it. I miss seeing the shift too:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.20.12.59/2//pistard-2015.01.27.20.12.59-2-29f979cb12d2dc019696cb2313b0dd66.jpg" alt="" /></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2015 03:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply vm_anchor&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792188&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ped&lt;/a&gt;

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&lt;blockquote&gt;You know, when helmets and sunglasses became de rigeur in the peloton, something was lost in our ability to really connect. Look at Plankaert&#039;s face. That&#039;s a man whose gas light is flashing and his check engine light has just come on. And he&#039;s ignoring them both.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I had to put those two pics side by side to compare. Emotion, humanity, Kodachrome warmth. Corporate, digital, robots. Sure, it&#039;s partly nostalgia, but photographers definitely have a harder job capturing emotion under sunnies and helmets, and I expect contemporary riders aren&#039;t allowed to express much individual character anyway.

&lt;a class=&quot;vm_inlineimg&quot; href=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.18.29.36/1//pistard-2015.01.27.18.29.36-1-sidebyeach.jpg?eb457a&quot; rel=&quot;lightbox&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.18.29.36/1/.cache/600x220x0_pistard-2015.01.27.18.29.36-1-sidebyeach.jpg?eb457a&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Hmm.

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<blockquote><p><a class="comment-author-reply vm_anchor" href="#comment-792188" rel="nofollow">@ped</a></p>
<p><a class="comment-author-reply vm_anchor" href="#comment-792202" rel="nofollow">@wiscot</a></p>
<blockquote><p>You know, when helmets and sunglasses became de rigeur in the peloton, something was lost in our ability to really connect. Look at Plankaert&#8217;s face. That&#8217;s a man whose gas light is flashing and his check engine light has just come on. And he&#8217;s ignoring them both.</p></blockquote>
<p>I had to put those two pics side by side to compare. Emotion, humanity, Kodachrome warmth. Corporate, digital, robots. Sure, it&#8217;s partly nostalgia, but photographers definitely have a harder job capturing emotion under sunnies and helmets, and I expect contemporary riders aren&#8217;t allowed to express much individual character anyway.</p>
<p><a class="vm_inlineimg" href="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.18.29.36/1//pistard-2015.01.27.18.29.36-1-sidebyeach.jpg?eb457a" rel="lightbox" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.18.29.36/1/.cache/600x220x0_pistard-2015.01.27.18.29.36-1-sidebyeach.jpg?eb457a" alt="" /></a></p></blockquote>
<p>Hmm.</p>
<p><img class="" src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/The Grande Fondue/2015.01.27.19.15.29/1//The Grande Fondue-2015.01.27.19.15.29-1-625871-bfbb74fa-a381-11e4-a81d-8d872353903b.jpg" alt="" width="404" height="303" /></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2015 03:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;You know, when helmets and sunglasses became de rigeur in the peloton, something was lost in our ability to really connect. Look at Plankaert&#039;s face. That&#039;s a man whose gas light is flashing and his check engine light has just come on. And he&#039;s ignoring them both.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Very well said.  I think so much of that is connected to the sunglasses, and not being able to see in to the riders&#039; eyes.]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>You know, when helmets and sunglasses became de rigeur in the peloton, something was lost in our ability to really connect. Look at Plankaert&#8217;s face. That&#8217;s a man whose gas light is flashing and his check engine light has just come on. And he&#8217;s ignoring them both.</p></blockquote>
<p>Very well said.  I think so much of that is connected to the sunglasses, and not being able to see in to the riders&#8217; eyes.</p>
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&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792202&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@wiscot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;You know, when helmets and sunglasses became de rigeur in the peloton, something was lost in our ability to really connect. Look at Plankaert&#039;s face. That&#039;s a man whose gas light is flashing and his check engine light has just come on. And he&#039;s ignoring them both.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I had to put those two pics side by side to compare. Emotion, humanity, Kodachrome warmth. Corporate, digital, robots. Sure, it&#039;s partly nostalgia, but photographers definitely have a harder job capturing emotion under sunnies and helmets, and I expect contemporary riders aren&#039;t allowed to express much individual character anyway. 

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.18.29.36/1//pistard-2015.01.27.18.29.36-1-sidebyeach.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>You know, when helmets and sunglasses became de rigeur in the peloton, something was lost in our ability to really connect. Look at Plankaert&#8217;s face. That&#8217;s a man whose gas light is flashing and his check engine light has just come on. And he&#8217;s ignoring them both.</p></blockquote>
<p>I had to put those two pics side by side to compare. Emotion, humanity, Kodachrome warmth. Corporate, digital, robots. Sure, it&#8217;s partly nostalgia, but photographers definitely have a harder job capturing emotion under sunnies and helmets, and I expect contemporary riders aren&#8217;t allowed to express much individual character anyway. </p>
<p><img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/pistard/2015.01.27.18.29.36/1//pistard-2015.01.27.18.29.36-1-sidebyeach.jpg" alt="" /></p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2015 02:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792183&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Tom Saccone&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a class=&quot; vm_anchor&quot; href=&quot;#comment-791832&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@wiscot&lt;/a&gt;

I was at the Worlds in 1988. I am an American and was racing with a small Belgian amateur team that season. I watched the race from about 100m from the finish.  The finish is still burned into my memory. I still race and manage a small amateur program where we revere the V and the awesome Belgian men!&lt;/blockquote&gt;
We need to hear more from you!]]></description>
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<blockquote><p><a class=" vm_anchor" href="#comment-791832" rel="nofollow">@wiscot</a></p>
<p>I was at the Worlds in 1988. I am an American and was racing with a small Belgian amateur team that season. I watched the race from about 100m from the finish.  The finish is still burned into my memory. I still race and manage a small amateur program where we revere the V and the awesome Belgian men!</p></blockquote>
<p>We need to hear more from you!</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 21:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You know, when helmets and sunglasses became de rigeur in the peloton, something was lost in our ability to really connect. Look at Plankaert&#039;s face. That&#039;s a man whose gas light is flashing and his check engine light has just come on. And he&#039;s ignoring them both.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, when helmets and sunglasses became de rigeur in the peloton, something was lost in our ability to really connect. Look at Plankaert&#8217;s face. That&#8217;s a man whose gas light is flashing and his check engine light has just come on. And he&#8217;s ignoring them both.</p>
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		By: ped		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 21:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792177&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@frank&lt;/a&gt;

as did team mate Paul Kimmage

http://www.independent.ie/sport/the-fatal-attraction-of-claveyrolat-26262128.html]]></description>
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<p>as did team mate Paul Kimmage</p>
<p><a href="http://www.independent.ie/sport/the-fatal-attraction-of-claveyrolat-26262128.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.independent.ie/sport/the-fatal-attraction-of-claveyrolat-26262128.html</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 21:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792177&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@frank&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;And speaking of killer guns and the shorts the right length to show them off, I always had a thing for Claveyrolat.

&lt;a class=&quot;vm_inlineimg&quot; href=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2015.01.27.12.04.31/4//frank-2015.01.27.12.04.31-4-dufaux14-620x536.jpg?0430da&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2015.01.27.12.04.31/4/.cache/600x519x0_frank-2015.01.27.12.04.31-4-dufaux14-620x536.jpg?0430da&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Racing then

Racing now&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/ped/2015.01.27.12.45.28/1//ped-2015.01.27.12.45.28-1-5035fe4d8bd29-tumblr_m96hnwh58a1r7rgvq.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment-author-reply" href="#comment-792177" rel="nofollow">@frank</a></p>
<blockquote><p>And speaking of killer guns and the shorts the right length to show them off, I always had a thing for Claveyrolat.</p>
<p><a class="vm_inlineimg" href="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2015.01.27.12.04.31/4//frank-2015.01.27.12.04.31-4-dufaux14-620x536.jpg?0430da" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2015.01.27.12.04.31/4/.cache/600x519x0_frank-2015.01.27.12.04.31-4-dufaux14-620x536.jpg?0430da" alt="" /></a></p></blockquote>
<p>Racing then</p>
<p>Racing now<img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/ped/2015.01.27.12.45.28/1//ped-2015.01.27.12.45.28-1-5035fe4d8bd29-tumblr_m96hnwh58a1r7rgvq.jpg" alt="" /></p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792177&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@frank&lt;/a&gt;

And speaking of killer guns and the shorts the right length to show them off shorter than short shorts...
&lt;img src=&quot;http://41.media.tumblr.com/e6de7577431d4cf39115a17b2871775b/tumblr_ng4ltrbMzn1r4mfcxo1_1280.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;

...whilst towing the press bikes home.]]></description>
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<p>And speaking of killer guns and the shorts the right length to show them off shorter than short shorts&#8230;<br />
<img src="http://41.media.tumblr.com/e6de7577431d4cf39115a17b2871775b/tumblr_ng4ltrbMzn1r4mfcxo1_1280.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>&#8230;whilst towing the press bikes home.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-791832&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@wiscot&lt;/a&gt;

I was at the Worlds in 1988. I am an American and was racing with a small Belgian amateur team that season. I watched the race from about 100m from the finish.  The finish is still burned into my memory. I still race and manage a small amateur program where we revere the V and the awesome Belgian men!]]></description>
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<p>I was at the Worlds in 1988. I am an American and was racing with a small Belgian amateur team that season. I watched the race from about 100m from the finish.  The finish is still burned into my memory. I still race and manage a small amateur program where we revere the V and the awesome Belgian men!</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And speaking of killer guns and the shorts the right length to show them off, I always had a thing for Claveyrolat.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2015.01.27.12.04.31/4//frank-2015.01.27.12.04.31-4-dufaux14-620x536.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And speaking of killer guns and the shorts the right length to show them off, I always had a thing for Claveyrolat.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2015.01.27.12.04.31/4//frank-2015.01.27.12.04.31-4-dufaux14-620x536.jpg" alt="" /></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-791792&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Ron&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Uh oh, not quite so smooth and dapper...

&lt;img src=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/PedalRon/2015.01.26.11.51.53/2//PedalRon-2015.01.26.11.51.53-2-Eddy P..jpg?0430da&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Oh, he&#039;s still got it.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2015.01.27.12.04.31/1//frank-2015.01.27.12.04.31-1-eddy planckaert.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;

But I have to say I have absolutely no idea what is going on here in this photo. Beyond bizarre. This is why Belgian TV doesn&#039;t make it Stateside.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2015.01.27.12.04.31/2//frank-2015.01.27.12.04.31-2-200905142154_eddy-planckaert-klopt-tom-waes-in-bloedstollende-finale.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment-author-reply" href="#comment-791792" rel="nofollow">@Ron</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Uh oh, not quite so smooth and dapper&#8230;</p>
<p><img src="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/PedalRon/2015.01.26.11.51.53/2//PedalRon-2015.01.26.11.51.53-2-Eddy P..jpg?0430da" alt="" /></p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, he&#8217;s still got it.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2015.01.27.12.04.31/1//frank-2015.01.27.12.04.31-1-eddy planckaert.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>But I have to say I have absolutely no idea what is going on here in this photo. Beyond bizarre. This is why Belgian TV doesn&#8217;t make it Stateside.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2015.01.27.12.04.31/2//frank-2015.01.27.12.04.31-2-200905142154_eddy-planckaert-klopt-tom-waes-in-bloedstollende-finale.jpg" alt="" /></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lets not overlook the perfect hairnet placement, either. What a stud.]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792032&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@brett&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply vm_anchor&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792025&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Chris&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply vm_anchor vm_anchor&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792003&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@brett&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Tell me about it. I did the Tuesday night smashfest in my Giro New Road gear tonight and it didn&#039;t slow me down any. (Possibly because I can&#039;t go much slower.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You&#039;re not going to turn up at the Keepers&#039; Tour in mtb kit are you?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Is that a challenge? I think Frank would have kittens... so maybe, yeah!

The real question is, are you gonna turn up at Keepers Tour in any kit?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I can&#039;t believe you ride your road bike in mountainbike clothes. And you call yourself a Keeper.]]></description>
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<blockquote><p><a class="comment-author-reply vm_anchor" href="#comment-792025" rel="nofollow">@Chris</a></p>
<blockquote><p><a class="comment-author-reply vm_anchor vm_anchor" href="#comment-792003" rel="nofollow">@brett</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Tell me about it. I did the Tuesday night smashfest in my Giro New Road gear tonight and it didn&#8217;t slow me down any. (Possibly because I can&#8217;t go much slower.)</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re not going to turn up at the Keepers&#8217; Tour in mtb kit are you?</p></blockquote>
<p>Is that a challenge? I think Frank would have kittens&#8230; so maybe, yeah!</p>
<p>The real question is, are you gonna turn up at Keepers Tour in any kit?</p></blockquote>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe you ride your road bike in mountainbike clothes. And you call yourself a Keeper.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 19:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-792092&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@wiscot&lt;/a&gt;

It looks like the yellow jersey flamed the tape clean off his bars.. hammer time!!]]></description>
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<p>It looks like the yellow jersey flamed the tape clean off his bars.. hammer time!!</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-792000&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@brett&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-791832&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@wiscot&lt;/a&gt;

This one...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.27.00.53.42/1//brett-2015.01.27.00.53.42-1-hunchbacks-620x284.jpg?0430da&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.27.00.53.42/1/.cache/600x275x0_brett-2015.01.27.00.53.42-1-hunchbacks-620x284.jpg?0430da&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

From &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/nostalgia/anatomy-of-a-photo-hunchbacks-of-the-81-tour/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/nostalgia/anatomy-of-a-photo-hunchbacks-of-the-81-tour/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yup, THAT one! Thanks for posting.]]></description>
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-791832" rel="nofollow">@wiscot</a></p>
<p>This one&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.27.00.53.42/1//brett-2015.01.27.00.53.42-1-hunchbacks-620x284.jpg?0430da" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.27.00.53.42/1/.cache/600x275x0_brett-2015.01.27.00.53.42-1-hunchbacks-620x284.jpg?0430da" alt="" /></a></p>
<p>From <a href="http://www.velominati.com/nostalgia/anatomy-of-a-photo-hunchbacks-of-the-81-tour/" rel="nofollow">this article&#8230;</a><br />
<a href="http://www.velominati.com/nostalgia/anatomy-of-a-photo-hunchbacks-of-the-81-tour/" rel="nofollow"> </a></p></blockquote>
<p>Yup, THAT one! Thanks for posting.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, that white helmet looks a whole lot like some of the new aero lids. I&#039;m intrigued by Kittel&#039;s new helmet and also those Lampre were wearing at the Tour Down Under.

And goodness, those are some guns. They&#039;re so massive they&#039;ve caused the Wall Squatter to lose control of his eyebrow, which is arched in sheer wonderment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that white helmet looks a whole lot like some of the new aero lids. I&#8217;m intrigued by Kittel&#8217;s new helmet and also those Lampre were wearing at the Tour Down Under.</p>
<p>And goodness, those are some guns. They&#8217;re so massive they&#8217;ve caused the Wall Squatter to lose control of his eyebrow, which is arched in sheer wonderment.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792056&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Ccos&lt;/a&gt;

Indeed it does. A better look at it.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2015.01.27.06.34.14/1//frank-2015.01.27.06.34.14-1-29c159752a4f7d5997a3650f32079ec5.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Indeed it does. A better look at it.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2015.01.27.06.34.14/1//frank-2015.01.27.06.34.14-1-29c159752a4f7d5997a3650f32079ec5.jpg" alt="" /></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 12:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;vm_inlineimg vm_linkablecontent&quot; href=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/DCR/2015.01.26.19.37.47/1//DCR-2015.01.26.19.37.47-1-WATSON_00002495-163-e1396532644821-630x418.jpg?0430da&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img class=&quot;vm_inlineimage&quot; src=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/DCR/2015.01.26.19.37.47/1/.cache/600x398x0_DCR-2015.01.26.19.37.47-1-WATSON_00002495-163-e1396532644821-630x418.jpg?0430da&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

He makes Marcel Kittle look like Marcel Kittens with quads like that!&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That is possibly the greatest photo of all time.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And the white helmet looks surprisingly....modern.]]></description>
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<blockquote><p><a class="vm_inlineimg vm_linkablecontent" href="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/DCR/2015.01.26.19.37.47/1//DCR-2015.01.26.19.37.47-1-WATSON_00002495-163-e1396532644821-630x418.jpg?0430da" rel="nofollow"><img class="vm_inlineimage" src="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/DCR/2015.01.26.19.37.47/1/.cache/600x398x0_DCR-2015.01.26.19.37.47-1-WATSON_00002495-163-e1396532644821-630x418.jpg?0430da" alt="" /></a></p>
<p>He makes Marcel Kittle look like Marcel Kittens with quads like that!</p></blockquote>
<p>That is possibly the greatest photo of all time.</p></blockquote>
<p>And the white helmet looks surprisingly&#8230;.modern.</p>
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		By: Oli		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;The year would be 1988 and the picture taken at the worlds. He rode for Panasonic the year before and ADR-W Cup, Bottechia, Coors Light in 1989. 190 victories listed for the man with his Panasonic years (84-87) being the best with 61 wins.

In the famous Jeff Pierce photo of the &quot;sprinters with sponges&quot; Eddy is on the left, Van Calster in the middle and Hinault on the right.

Talk about being from a cycling family: Willy and Walter were older brothers, Jo was his uncle and Francesco is his son. And anyone would question anything he did on the bike?

I think that could be Fondriest behind Mr Red polo shirt. If it is, it&#039;s the year Fondriest won after Bauer and Criquelion got &quot;tangled&quot; up in the sprint. Eddy didn&#039;t place.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Definitely Fondriest, good spotting. Ronse, Belgium 1988]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>The year would be 1988 and the picture taken at the worlds. He rode for Panasonic the year before and ADR-W Cup, Bottechia, Coors Light in 1989. 190 victories listed for the man with his Panasonic years (84-87) being the best with 61 wins.</p>
<p>In the famous Jeff Pierce photo of the &#8220;sprinters with sponges&#8221; Eddy is on the left, Van Calster in the middle and Hinault on the right.</p>
<p>Talk about being from a cycling family: Willy and Walter were older brothers, Jo was his uncle and Francesco is his son. And anyone would question anything he did on the bike?</p>
<p>I think that could be Fondriest behind Mr Red polo shirt. If it is, it&#8217;s the year Fondriest won after Bauer and Criquelion got &#8220;tangled&#8221; up in the sprint. Eddy didn&#8217;t place.</p></blockquote>
<p>Definitely Fondriest, good spotting. Ronse, Belgium 1988</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 10:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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If I do make it to the Keepers&#039; Tour, I will be wearing kit, yes.

Unless the weight loss has gone so well that I want to show everyone.]]></description>
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<p>If I do make it to the Keepers&#8217; Tour, I will be wearing kit, yes.</p>
<p>Unless the weight loss has gone so well that I want to show everyone.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 10:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-791929&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@DCR&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;vm_inlineimg&quot; href=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/DCR/2015.01.26.19.37.47/1//DCR-2015.01.26.19.37.47-1-WATSON_00002495-163-e1396532644821-630x418.jpg?0430da&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/DCR/2015.01.26.19.37.47/1/.cache/600x398x0_DCR-2015.01.26.19.37.47-1-WATSON_00002495-163-e1396532644821-630x418.jpg?0430da&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

He makes Marcel Kittle look like Marcel Kittens with quads like that!&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That is possibly the greatest photo of all time.]]></description>
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<blockquote><p><a class="vm_inlineimg" href="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/DCR/2015.01.26.19.37.47/1//DCR-2015.01.26.19.37.47-1-WATSON_00002495-163-e1396532644821-630x418.jpg?0430da" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://vmcdn.dutchmonkeycom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/DCR/2015.01.26.19.37.47/1/.cache/600x398x0_DCR-2015.01.26.19.37.47-1-WATSON_00002495-163-e1396532644821-630x418.jpg?0430da" alt="" /></a></p>
<p>He makes Marcel Kittle look like Marcel Kittens with quads like that!</p></blockquote>
<p>That is possibly the greatest photo of all time.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 10:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792025&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Chris&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply vm_anchor&quot; href=&quot;#comment-792003&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@brett&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Tell me about it. I did the Tuesday night smashfest in my Giro New Road gear tonight and it didn&#039;t slow me down any. (Possibly because I can&#039;t go much slower.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You&#039;re not going to turn up at the Keepers&#039; Tour in mtb kit are you?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Is that a challenge? I think Frank would have kittens... so maybe, yeah!

The real question is, are you gonna turn up at Keepers Tour in any kit?]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>Tell me about it. I did the Tuesday night smashfest in my Giro New Road gear tonight and it didn&#8217;t slow me down any. (Possibly because I can&#8217;t go much slower.)</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re not going to turn up at the Keepers&#8217; Tour in mtb kit are you?</p></blockquote>
<p>Is that a challenge? I think Frank would have kittens&#8230; so maybe, yeah!</p>
<p>The real question is, are you gonna turn up at Keepers Tour in any kit?</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 10:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;Tell me about it. I did the Tuesday night smashfest in my Giro New Road gear tonight and it didn&#039;t slow me down any. (Possibly because I can&#039;t go much slower.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You&#039;re not going to turn up at the Keepers&#039; Tour in mtb kit are you?]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>Tell me about it. I did the Tuesday night smashfest in my Giro New Road gear tonight and it didn&#8217;t slow me down any. (Possibly because I can&#8217;t go much slower.)</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re not going to turn up at the Keepers&#8217; Tour in mtb kit are you?</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 09:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-791943&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@frank&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply vm_anchor&quot; href=&quot;#comment-791819&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@brett&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Perfect cap luft with upturned peak.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
3PS perfection.

And those guns.

Don&#039;t even start me on how perfectly that jersey fits him. The biggest bane of the modern Cycling fashion is the speed jersey and speed suit. Fuck that shit. Just push on the pedals for Merckx&#039;s sake.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Tell me about it. I did the Tuesday night smashfest in my Giro New Road gear tonight and it didn&#039;t slow me down any. (Possibly because I can&#039;t go much slower.)]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>Perfect cap luft with upturned peak.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#3PS">3PS</a> perfection.</p>
<p>And those guns.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t even start me on how perfectly that jersey fits him. The biggest bane of the modern Cycling fashion is the speed jersey and speed suit. Fuck that shit. Just push on the pedals for Merckx&#8217;s sake.</p></blockquote>
<p>Tell me about it. I did the Tuesday night smashfest in my Giro New Road gear tonight and it didn&#8217;t slow me down any. (Possibly because I can&#8217;t go much slower.)</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment-author-reply&quot; href=&quot;#comment-791832&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@wiscot&lt;/a&gt;

This one...

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.27.00.53.42/1//brett-2015.01.27.00.53.42-1-hunchbacks-620x284.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;

From &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/nostalgia/anatomy-of-a-photo-hunchbacks-of-the-81-tour/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/nostalgia/anatomy-of-a-photo-hunchbacks-of-the-81-tour/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
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<p>This one&#8230;</p>
<p><img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/brett/2015.01.27.00.53.42/1//brett-2015.01.27.00.53.42-1-hunchbacks-620x284.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>From <a href="http://www.velominati.com/nostalgia/anatomy-of-a-photo-hunchbacks-of-the-81-tour/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">this article&#8230;</a><br />
<a href="http://www.velominati.com/nostalgia/anatomy-of-a-photo-hunchbacks-of-the-81-tour/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> </a></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 05:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;Perfect cap luft with upturned peak.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
3PS perfection.

And those guns.

Don&#039;t even start me on how perfectly that jersey fits him. The biggest bane of the modern Cycling fashion is the speed jersey and speed suit. Fuck that shit. Just push on the pedals for Merckx&#039;s sake.]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>Perfect cap luft with upturned peak.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#3PS">3PS</a> perfection.</p>
<p>And those guns.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t even start me on how perfectly that jersey fits him. The biggest bane of the modern Cycling fashion is the speed jersey and speed suit. Fuck that shit. Just push on the pedals for Merckx&#8217;s sake.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 03:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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He makes Marcel Kittle look like Marcel Kittens with quads like that!]]></description>
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<p>He makes Marcel Kittle look like Marcel Kittens with quads like that!</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2015 23:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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Is that Eddy P?  Why did I think it was Walter?]]></description>
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<p>Is that Eddy P?  Why did I think it was Walter?</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2015 23:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;The year would be 1988 and the picture taken at the worlds. He rode for Panasonic the year before and ADR-W Cup, Bottechia, Coors Light in 1989. 190 victories listed for the man with his Panasonic years (84-87) being the best with 61 wins.

In the famous Jeff Pierce photo of the &quot;sprinters with sponges&quot; Eddy is on the left, Van Calster in the middle and Hinault on the right.

Talk about being from a cycling family: Willy and Walter were older brothers, Jo was his uncle and Francesco is his son. And anyone would question anything he did on the bike?

I think that could be Fondriest behind Mr Red polo shirt. If it is, it&#039;s the year Fondriest won after Bauer and Criquelion got &quot;tangled&quot; up in the sprint. Eddy didn&#039;t place.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Thus the &quot;F-you and all of your decedents&quot; look on his face.]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>The year would be 1988 and the picture taken at the worlds. He rode for Panasonic the year before and ADR-W Cup, Bottechia, Coors Light in 1989. 190 victories listed for the man with his Panasonic years (84-87) being the best with 61 wins.</p>
<p>In the famous Jeff Pierce photo of the &#8220;sprinters with sponges&#8221; Eddy is on the left, Van Calster in the middle and Hinault on the right.</p>
<p>Talk about being from a cycling family: Willy and Walter were older brothers, Jo was his uncle and Francesco is his son. And anyone would question anything he did on the bike?</p>
<p>I think that could be Fondriest behind Mr Red polo shirt. If it is, it&#8217;s the year Fondriest won after Bauer and Criquelion got &#8220;tangled&#8221; up in the sprint. Eddy didn&#8217;t place.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thus the &#8220;F-you and all of your decedents&#8221; look on his face.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2015 23:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The year would be 1988 and the picture taken at the worlds. He rode for Panasonic the year before and ADR-W Cup, Bottechia, Coors Light in 1989. 190 victories listed for the man with his Panasonic years (84-87) being the best with 61 wins.

In the famous Jeff Pierce photo of the &quot;sprinters with sponges&quot; Eddy is on the left, Van Calster in the middle and Hinault on the right.

Talk about being from a cycling family: Willy and Walter were older brothers, Jo was his uncle and Francesco is his son. And anyone would question anything he did on the bike?

I think that could be Fondriest behind Mr Red polo shirt. If it is, it&#039;s the year Fondriest won after Bauer and Criquelion got &quot;tangled&quot; up in the sprint. Eddy didn&#039;t place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The year would be 1988 and the picture taken at the worlds. He rode for Panasonic the year before and ADR-W Cup, Bottechia, Coors Light in 1989. 190 victories listed for the man with his Panasonic years (84-87) being the best with 61 wins.</p>
<p>In the famous Jeff Pierce photo of the &#8220;sprinters with sponges&#8221; Eddy is on the left, Van Calster in the middle and Hinault on the right.</p>
<p>Talk about being from a cycling family: Willy and Walter were older brothers, Jo was his uncle and Francesco is his son. And anyone would question anything he did on the bike?</p>
<p>I think that could be Fondriest behind Mr Red polo shirt. If it is, it&#8217;s the year Fondriest won after Bauer and Criquelion got &#8220;tangled&#8221; up in the sprint. Eddy didn&#8217;t place.</p>
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		By: Nate		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2015 22:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Awesome. I wonder which edition of worlds the photo is from. Based on the logo on the bibs, I&#039;d guess 79 or 80.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome. I wonder which edition of worlds the photo is from. Based on the logo on the bibs, I&#8217;d guess 79 or 80.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2015 21:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perfect cap luft with upturned peak.]]></description>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see two scenarios here: 1) From the look on face of the fellow behind him, Planckaert must of told Mr Green Polo to F-off. Or 2) He&#039;s about to tear a new one into disembodied hand about to touch the spotless jersey.

Either way, badass then, badass now. Except now he looks like an almost washed-up roadie for an 80&#039;s hair band.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see two scenarios here: 1) From the look on face of the fellow behind him, Planckaert must of told Mr Green Polo to F-off. Or 2) He&#8217;s about to tear a new one into disembodied hand about to touch the spotless jersey.</p>
<p>Either way, badass then, badass now. Except now he looks like an almost washed-up roadie for an 80&#8217;s hair band.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2015 20:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Uh oh, not quite so smooth and dapper...

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/PedalRon/2015.01.26.11.51.53/2//PedalRon-2015.01.26.11.51.53-2-Eddy P..jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh oh, not quite so smooth and dapper&#8230;</p>
<p><img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/PedalRon/2015.01.26.11.51.53/2//PedalRon-2015.01.26.11.51.53-2-Eddy P..jpg" alt="" /></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2015 19:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mmm, hairnet draped from obscenely long quill stem! Properly worn cap! Lubed guns! Freshly shaved face. And, how about the classy watch?

Too many gaudy &quot;Real Housewives&quot; oversized watches adorning toothpick wrists these days.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmm, hairnet draped from obscenely long quill stem! Properly worn cap! Lubed guns! Freshly shaved face. And, how about the classy watch?</p>
<p>Too many gaudy &#8220;Real Housewives&#8221; oversized watches adorning toothpick wrists these days.</p>
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