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		By: GoldenGorilla		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2016 02:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fell across this article a bit by accident, but damn right.  CO has shown up for the Pro Cycling Challenge every single year.  The crowds were huge for Jens here.  Every host town has a huge crowd for this event and I know on the last day when it went through my neighborhood, the streets were lined all the way from here to downtown Denver with fans and packed on the circuit.  Shame it fell through in 16 and a sincere hope that it finds a way back next year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fell across this article a bit by accident, but damn right.  CO has shown up for the Pro Cycling Challenge every single year.  The crowds were huge for Jens here.  Every host town has a huge crowd for this event and I know on the last day when it went through my neighborhood, the streets were lined all the way from here to downtown Denver with fans and packed on the circuit.  Shame it fell through in 16 and a sincere hope that it finds a way back next year.</p>
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		By: thfc1987		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2014 02:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The USA may be the cycling backwater, but my beautiful home state (where Jens rode his final race) is wonderful. Just the other day, a recently retired pro (can&#039;t remember who) said Boulder, CO is one of his favorite places to train. The whole US doesn&#039;t suck. Just, you know, most of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The USA may be the cycling backwater, but my beautiful home state (where Jens rode his final race) is wonderful. Just the other day, a recently retired pro (can&#8217;t remember who) said Boulder, CO is one of his favorite places to train. The whole US doesn&#8217;t suck. Just, you know, most of it.</p>
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		By: Geraint		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 20:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[51.850 I think.

&lt;em&gt;Looked&lt;/em&gt; easy for the first 40 mins or so, then started to look hard, then absolutely fucking brutal.

I was welded to the screen. I find it hard to explain why one bloke riding around a track on his own for an hour is so gripping. But it just is.

I think we need an hour record VSP...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>51.850 I think.</p>
<p><em>Looked</em> easy for the first 40 mins or so, then started to look hard, then absolutely fucking brutal.</p>
<p>I was welded to the screen. I find it hard to explain why one bloke riding around a track on his own for an hour is so gripping. But it just is.</p>
<p>I think we need an hour record VSP&#8230;</p>
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		By: Teocalli		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teocalli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jens&#039; record didn&#039;t last long 51.8something to Mathaus Brandle]]></description>
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		By: Geraint		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2014 18:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s 43, he&#039;s a legend, he has six kids and is the epitome of V.

The rule change provided a loophole, an opportunity to get into the history books, and he was the first to fill his boots and get on with it. Even for a showman like him, just watching the coverage made me nervous. The idea of being the focus of millions of people&#039;s attention for a couple of hours, every lap, facial expression, all the warm up, the ride itself, the post-ride media. You need more than just V for that, you need some big bollocks and no mistake.

Did the modern kit confer an advantage? Yes, no doubt, even though it was a frankenstein hack road bike. Would he have broken the athlete&#039;s hour record? Probably not, but he&#039;d be the first to admit that. Point is, he tried it, he did it, convincingly enough for it to look good, his name is in the books, and all that data he generated will give Trek/Faboo a huge leg up when/if he fancies trying it himself.

Chapeau Jens, is what I say.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s 43, he&#8217;s a legend, he has six kids and is the epitome of V.</p>
<p>The rule change provided a loophole, an opportunity to get into the history books, and he was the first to fill his boots and get on with it. Even for a showman like him, just watching the coverage made me nervous. The idea of being the focus of millions of people&#8217;s attention for a couple of hours, every lap, facial expression, all the warm up, the ride itself, the post-ride media. You need more than just V for that, you need some big bollocks and no mistake.</p>
<p>Did the modern kit confer an advantage? Yes, no doubt, even though it was a frankenstein hack road bike. Would he have broken the athlete&#8217;s hour record? Probably not, but he&#8217;d be the first to admit that. Point is, he tried it, he did it, convincingly enough for it to look good, his name is in the books, and all that data he generated will give Trek/Faboo a huge leg up when/if he fancies trying it himself.</p>
<p>Chapeau Jens, is what I say.</p>
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		By: EricW		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2014 18:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jens Voigt&#039;s big ring is a 56, and his small ring ... is also a 56. - Ancient Chinese proverb.

Like @Brett, I don&#039;t have any illusions of Voigt&#039;s history and origins.  However, part of his appeal to me is that he was - and is - human.  Unlike most other famous riders, the mythos of Voigt isn&#039;t built upon a palmares of memorable victories, but of almosts and could-have-beens.  His legendary breakaways usually failed, his attacks were stupid even in his own words.  And yet, as sure as the sun rises, you&#039;d see him in another crazy solo breakaway the very next day.

As mere mortals most of us hop in the fast Tuesday rides without any illusions of winning the townline sprint, but yet we still blast away on the last stretch home, bike swaying under the effort, vision blurry, legs burnings.  Personally, I can count the number of times that&#039;s worked for me in my life on one hand, but without exception it&#039;s fun every single time and that&#039;s all that counts.  That&#039;s how Jens Voigt has ridden for the last 3 decades, and that&#039;s why I&#039;ll miss him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jens Voigt&#8217;s big ring is a 56, and his small ring &#8230; is also a 56. &#8211; Ancient Chinese proverb.</p>
<p>Like @Brett, I don&#8217;t have any illusions of Voigt&#8217;s history and origins.  However, part of his appeal to me is that he was &#8211; and is &#8211; human.  Unlike most other famous riders, the mythos of Voigt isn&#8217;t built upon a palmares of memorable victories, but of almosts and could-have-beens.  His legendary breakaways usually failed, his attacks were stupid even in his own words.  And yet, as sure as the sun rises, you&#8217;d see him in another crazy solo breakaway the very next day.</p>
<p>As mere mortals most of us hop in the fast Tuesday rides without any illusions of winning the townline sprint, but yet we still blast away on the last stretch home, bike swaying under the effort, vision blurry, legs burnings.  Personally, I can count the number of times that&#8217;s worked for me in my life on one hand, but without exception it&#8217;s fun every single time and that&#8217;s all that counts.  That&#8217;s how Jens Voigt has ridden for the last 3 decades, and that&#8217;s why I&#8217;ll miss him.</p>
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		By: Rob		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know he said he talked to Spartacus before deciding to ride. That conversation, I think they are friends, could have been pretty funny -

&quot;I&#039;d like to do the hour, do you mind?&quot;

&quot;Mind, why?  Oh no do it (snicker). It will be good to see what you do... It will be a good gage for my go.&quot;

- seriously I don&#039;t think Jens ever thought that he&#039;d be doing more than a bench mark and given that he is not a specialist nor a top champion I think he did a great effort that showed control and power. Also at the end he had fuel left so that if he had more experience he might have done more. At 43 this was not an underwhelming effort, actually he made something that has to be the worst bitch ride look like a walk in the park.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know he said he talked to Spartacus before deciding to ride. That conversation, I think they are friends, could have been pretty funny &#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;d like to do the hour, do you mind?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Mind, why?  Oh no do it (snicker). It will be good to see what you do&#8230; It will be a good gage for my go.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211; seriously I don&#8217;t think Jens ever thought that he&#8217;d be doing more than a bench mark and given that he is not a specialist nor a top champion I think he did a great effort that showed control and power. Also at the end he had fuel left so that if he had more experience he might have done more. At 43 this was not an underwhelming effort, actually he made something that has to be the worst bitch ride look like a walk in the park.</p>
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		By: Teocalli		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2014 12:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-635330&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@minion&lt;/a&gt;   Yeah but someone had to get the ball rolling and at least now there is a new target and likelihood there will be a spate of attempts if not a continued set of challengers.  I must admit though that I did think it was good to get in first yo get your name in the record books.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-635330" rel="nofollow">@minion</a>   Yeah but someone had to get the ball rolling and at least now there is a new target and likelihood there will be a spate of attempts if not a continued set of challengers.  I must admit though that I did think it was good to get in first yo get your name in the record books.</p>
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		By: minion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2014 11:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Underwhelmed with the record given the equipment he was allowed to use, and what other riders achieved with far inferior equipment. If he hadn&#039;t got the record it would have been fucking humiliating  and a major marketing fail for Trek.

I don&#039;t know if the record will stand for long, now that the equipment seems to have been OKed and specialists will be able to have a crack at it and probably start setting some real peaks.

And fuck Jens. There, I said it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Underwhelmed with the record given the equipment he was allowed to use, and what other riders achieved with far inferior equipment. If he hadn&#8217;t got the record it would have been fucking humiliating  and a major marketing fail for Trek.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if the record will stand for long, now that the equipment seems to have been OKed and specialists will be able to have a crack at it and probably start setting some real peaks.</p>
<p>And fuck Jens. There, I said it.</p>
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		By: Rob		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2014 03:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One thing about Jens is he is just consistent. What a cool thing to know ones self so well and go into that effort and do it. If we had been watching Merckxs in Mehico you know we&#039;d be thinking its a sure thing. Jens, on the other hand, while he has wins and hard man status has no 700 victories... but he has guts and that self knowledge to make it work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing about Jens is he is just consistent. What a cool thing to know ones self so well and go into that effort and do it. If we had been watching Merckxs in Mehico you know we&#8217;d be thinking its a sure thing. Jens, on the other hand, while he has wins and hard man status has no 700 victories&#8230; but he has guts and that self knowledge to make it work.</p>
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		By: GogglesPizano		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2014 01:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[and 42 years ago .... not even 2km less.  Check out those fucking guns at 2:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqjEvDlFqdM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&#038;v=nqjEvDlFqdM#t=160]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and 42 years ago &#8230;. not even 2km less.  Check out those fucking guns at 2:40</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqjEvDlFqdM" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqjEvDlFqdM</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&#038;v=nqjEvDlFqdM#t=160" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&#038;v=nqjEvDlFqdM#t=160</a></p>
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		By: PeakInTwoYears		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2014 00:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-634178&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@GogglesPizano&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-634178&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-634161&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Gianni&lt;/a&gt; Yup. Thought I would tune in and out through the hour but I sat and watched it end to end!

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Same here. At 50 mins my palms were sweating. What a ride.]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-634161" rel="nofollow">@Gianni</a> Yup. Thought I would tune in and out through the hour but I sat and watched it end to end!</p>
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<p>Same here. At 50 mins my palms were sweating. What a ride.</p>
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		By: Weldertron		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 22:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had this cranked on the radio at my shop today. The staff was very upset with the lack of their classic rock.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had this cranked on the radio at my shop today. The staff was very upset with the lack of their classic rock.</p>
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		By: Geraint		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 20:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That was fucking brilliant. Chapeau Jens.

Can&#039;t wait for the Wiggo/Panzer/Faboo scrap. Bring it on!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was fucking brilliant. Chapeau Jens.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait for the Wiggo/Panzer/Faboo scrap. Bring it on!</p>
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		By: DeKerr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 19:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-608546&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@frank&lt;/a&gt; only 13.798 km to go.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-608546" rel="nofollow">@frank</a> only 13.798 km to go.</p>
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		By: GogglesPizano		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 18:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-634161&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Gianni&lt;/a&gt; Yup.  Thought I would tune in and out through the hour but I sat and watched it end to end!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-634161" rel="nofollow">@Gianni</a> Yup.  Thought I would tune in and out through the hour but I sat and watched it end to end!</p>
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		By: wiscot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 18:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-634161&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Gianni&lt;/a&gt;

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What a stud. This will get a few guys fired up.

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Indeed. Step up the Panzerwagen, Spartacus, Wiggo et al. Let&#039;s see this get competitive!

Interesting that Jens used a very standard helmet and no oversocks. Nice mix of modern materials and some &quot;old school&quot; stuff.]]></description>
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What a stud. This will get a few guys fired up.</p>
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<p>Indeed. Step up the Panzerwagen, Spartacus, Wiggo et al. Let&#8217;s see this get competitive!</p>
<p>Interesting that Jens used a very standard helmet and no oversocks. Nice mix of modern materials and some &#8220;old school&#8221; stuff.</p>
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		By: Gianni		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 18:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What a stud. This will get a few guys fired up.]]></description>
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		By: actor1		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 18:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-634151&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Teocalli&lt;/a&gt; no worries, i was afraid i&#039;d hit a wrong # in all the build up]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-634151" rel="nofollow">@Teocalli</a> no worries, i was afraid i&#8217;d hit a wrong # in all the build up</p>
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		By: wiscot		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-3/#comment-634153</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wiscot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 18:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Way to go Jensie! Congratulations: 51.115 kms!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to go Jensie! Congratulations: 51.115 kms!</p>
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		By: Teocalli		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-3/#comment-634151</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teocalli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 18:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[sorry mistyped as @actor1]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry mistyped as @actor1</p>
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		By: ChrisO		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-3/#comment-634150</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ChrisO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 18:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Smashed it - 51.115.

He was really killing it in the last laps. Fantastic effort.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smashed it &#8211; 51.115.</p>
<p>He was really killing it in the last laps. Fantastic effort.</p>
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		By: Teocalli		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-3/#comment-634149</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teocalli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 18:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[50.115 Km]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50.115 Km</p>
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		<title>
		By: actor1		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-3/#comment-634148</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[actor1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 18:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[51.115km]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>51.115km</p>
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		<title>
		By: actor1		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-3/#comment-634142</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[actor1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[3 min., 5 laps left]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 min., 5 laps left</p>
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		By: Teocalli		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634141</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teocalli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[4 mins to go and into 51 kph average]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4 mins to go and into 51 kph average</p>
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		<title>
		By: actor1		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634139</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[actor1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[10 to go, 4.20 min. left]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10 to go, 4.20 min. left</p>
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		By: Teocalli		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634137</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teocalli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[55 mins 1:24 up 50.989 kph]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>55 mins 1:24 up 50.989 kph</p>
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		By: wiscot		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634136</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wiscot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Live right here guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjjM2tI6THs]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Live right here guys: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjjM2tI6THs" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjjM2tI6THs</a></p>
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		By: actor1		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634134</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[actor1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[avg. speed is rising, 50.9km/hr]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>avg. speed is rising, 50.9km/hr</p>
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		By: actor1		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634133</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[actor1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[20 laps left, 6+ min. left]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20 laps left, 6+ min. left</p>
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		<title>
		By: actor1		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634131</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[actor1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[10 min. left, needs 26 laps]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10 min. left, needs 26 laps</p>
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		By: @blackpooltower		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634130</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@blackpooltower]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Remarkable moment when he gave himself a wedgie around the 120-lap mark.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remarkable moment when he gave himself a wedgie around the 120-lap mark.</p>
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		By: Teocalli		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634128</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teocalli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[50 mins 1:06 up at 50.824 mph]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50 mins 1:06 up at 50.824 mph</p>
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		<title>
		By: actor1		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634119</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[actor1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[lap 156, 14 min. left]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lap 156, 14 min. left</p>
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		<title>
		By: Teocalli		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634112</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teocalli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[40 mins 40 sec up average 50.643 kph]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>40 mins 40 sec up average 50.643 kph</p>
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		<title>
		By: Teocalli		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634097</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teocalli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[30 mins 26 sec up average 50.666 kph]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>30 mins 26 sec up average 50.666 kph</p>
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		By: actor1		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634096</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[actor1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[lap 100 &#038; he&#039;s 40 seconds ahead]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lap 100 &amp; he&#8217;s 40 seconds ahead</p>
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		By: ChrisO		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634089</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ChrisO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shame we can&#039;t see the data they are looking at.

According to the Trek guy they are seeing a real-time feed of cadence, power, HR and even drag coefficient.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame we can&#8217;t see the data they are looking at.</p>
<p>According to the Trek guy they are seeing a real-time feed of cadence, power, HR and even drag coefficient.</p>
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		By: Teocalli		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634082</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teocalli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[20 mins and 21 sec up, average speed falling slightly at 50.789 kph]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20 mins and 21 sec up, average speed falling slightly at 50.789 kph</p>
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		By: actor1		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634081</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[actor1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[according to the livestream i&#039;m watching, the commentator mentioned he HAS to maintain &#060;18 sec. laps]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>according to the livestream i&#8217;m watching, the commentator mentioned he HAS to maintain &lt;18 sec. laps</p>
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		By: unversio		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634079</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[unversio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[52.92km]]></description>
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		By: actor1		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634076</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[actor1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[lap 56

54km/hr]]></description>
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<p>54km/hr</p>
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		<title>
		By: Teocalli		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634072</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teocalli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[10 mins in and 10 secs up on previous record.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10 mins in and 10 secs up on previous record.</p>
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		<title>
		By: frank		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634069</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-634006&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Teocalli&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-634006&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-633892&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Rob&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-633892&quot;&gt;
and the guy is hard so I&#039;m going for a very respectable time...

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;m going for 60 mins on the dot.......

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2014.09.18.10.10.37/1//frank-2014.09.18.10.10.37-1-Screen Shot 2014-09-18 at 10.10.41 AM.png&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-634006" rel="nofollow">@Teocalli</a></p>
<blockquote cite="#commentbody-634006"><p>
<a href="#comment-633892" rel="nofollow">@Rob</a></p>
<blockquote cite="#commentbody-633892"><p>
and the guy is hard so I&#8217;m going for a very respectable time&#8230;</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m going for 60 mins on the dot&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
</blockquote>
<p><img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2014.09.18.10.10.37/1//frank-2014.09.18.10.10.37-1-Screen Shot 2014-09-18 at 10.10.41 AM.png" alt="" /></p>
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		By: Teocalli		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634062</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teocalli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[way = want]]></description>
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		By: Teocalli		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634060</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teocalli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-634046&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ChrisO&lt;/a&gt;   I remember watching Boardman on the beeb and I think Obree too.

Anyone way a tickertape on here?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-634046" rel="nofollow">@ChrisO</a>   I remember watching Boardman on the beeb and I think Obree too.</p>
<p>Anyone way a tickertape on here?</p>
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		By: ChrisO		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/comment-page-2/#comment-634046</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ChrisO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 16:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-634006&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Teocalli&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-634006&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-633892&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Rob&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-633892&quot;&gt;
and the guy is hard so I&#039;m going for a very respectable time...

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;m going for 60 mins on the dot.......

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Ho ho... I reckon 51.6km. He should be able to beat Sosenka easily, given that Sosenka was on a road bike.

Looking forward to it. I&#039;ve never watched an hour attempt live on TV/online before - has anyone?

Were the Obree/Boardman efforts live?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-634006" rel="nofollow">@Teocalli</a></p>
<blockquote cite="#commentbody-634006"><p>
<a href="#comment-633892" rel="nofollow">@Rob</a></p>
<blockquote cite="#commentbody-633892"><p>
and the guy is hard so I&#8217;m going for a very respectable time&#8230;</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m going for 60 mins on the dot&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Ho ho&#8230; I reckon 51.6km. He should be able to beat Sosenka easily, given that Sosenka was on a road bike.</p>
<p>Looking forward to it. I&#8217;ve never watched an hour attempt live on TV/online before &#8211; has anyone?</p>
<p>Were the Obree/Boardman efforts live?</p>
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		By: Teocalli		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teocalli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 16:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-633892&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Rob&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-633892&quot;&gt;
and the guy is hard so I&#039;m going for a very respectable time...



&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;m going for 60 mins on the dot.......]]></description>
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and the guy is hard so I&#8217;m going for a very respectable time&#8230;</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m going for 60 mins on the dot&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 16:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The real thing...The Prophet down Mexico way...

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		By: Rob		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 14:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frinckin Jensy, he looks like the little kid about to go in the candy store, lovin the clock discs. My bet is around 52 kph...

After looking at the current records:

(a) UCI unified record (from 2014) - Sosenka  49.7

(b) UCI hour record (until 2014) - Merckx 49.431, Bordman 56.375 and Sosenka 49.7

(c) UCI best human effort (1972-2014) Bordman 56.375

(d) IHPVA/WHPVA hour record - Russo 91.556

Sosenka was sauced to the gills, Bordman was on superman/disc/ carbon and we all know what Merckxs was! So Jens seems to me to be somewhere in the middle techno wise and coming off a hard ass summer so his form is good if he is peaking... and the guy is hard so I&#039;m going for a very respectable  time...

Go Jens!!!

&quot;In the hierarchy of the family, I&#039;m just above the dog. But I like it that way.&quot;

&lt;div class=&quot;templatequotecite&quot;&gt;&quot;”&lt;strong&gt;Jens Voigt, father of six!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jens_Voigt#cite_note-Quotes-5&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frinckin Jensy, he looks like the little kid about to go in the candy store, lovin the clock discs. My bet is around 52 kph&#8230;</p>
<p>After looking at the current records:</p>
<p>(a) UCI unified record (from 2014) &#8211; Sosenka  49.7</p>
<p>(b) UCI hour record (until 2014) &#8211; Merckx 49.431, Bordman 56.375 and Sosenka 49.7</p>
<p>(c) UCI best human effort (1972-2014) Bordman 56.375</p>
<p>(d) IHPVA/WHPVA hour record &#8211; Russo 91.556</p>
<p>Sosenka was sauced to the gills, Bordman was on superman/disc/ carbon and we all know what Merckxs was! So Jens seems to me to be somewhere in the middle techno wise and coming off a hard ass summer so his form is good if he is peaking&#8230; and the guy is hard so I&#8217;m going for a very respectable  time&#8230;</p>
<p>Go Jens!!!</p>
<p>&#8220;In the hierarchy of the family, I&#8217;m just above the dog. But I like it that way.&#8221;</p>
<div class="templatequotecite">&#8220;”<strong>Jens Voigt, father of six!</strong><a href="http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jens_Voigt#cite_note-Quotes-5" rel="nofollow"><br />
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 13:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 12:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All fingers and toes crossed for Herr Voigt. Smash it, sir, smash it good.]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 07:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m officially excited.  Today&#039;s the day!!]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://road.cc/content/news/130168-jens-voigt-reveals-hour-record-trek-speed-concept&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;One hour to go!&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;img src=&quot;http://road.cc/sites/default/files/imagecache/galleria_900_nocrop/images/Jens%20Voigt%20and%20his%20Hour%20Record%20bike/Jens%20Voigt%20Hour%20Record%2021%20-%20Jens%20with%20bike%20on%20shoulder%20(©Maxime%20Schmid).jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;

 &lt;a href=&quot;http://road.cc/content/news/130168-jens-voigt-reveals-hour-record-trek-speed-concept&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://road.cc/content/news/130168-jens-voigt-reveals-hour-record-trek-speed-concept&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
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<p><img src="http://road.cc/sites/default/files/imagecache/galleria_900_nocrop/images/Jens%20Voigt%20and%20his%20Hour%20Record%20bike/Jens%20Voigt%20Hour%20Record%2021%20-%20Jens%20with%20bike%20on%20shoulder%20(©Maxime%20Schmid).jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p> <a href="http://road.cc/content/news/130168-jens-voigt-reveals-hour-record-trek-speed-concept" rel="nofollow">http://road.cc/content/news/130168-jens-voigt-reveals-hour-record-trek-speed-concept</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 22:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-608459&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Mike_P&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-608459&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/#comment-608445&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Rob&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
In the mean time I am cheering Jens on for doing something that is brave, hard man awesome and cool, just going for it. I wish him luck and am betting that he may make it

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
...until he announces Ondrej Sosenka is &quot;coaching&quot; him ?! I suspect Sir Bradley is sitting somewhere rolling his eyes and being a bit &quot;sweary&quot; this afternoon. As for &lt;a href=&quot;//www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/&#039;, &#039;Faboo&#039;);&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Faboo&lt;/a&gt;, well he&#039;ll just be whinging, as usual these days.

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The day Faboo has a crack at the hour, he&#039;d whinge an hour is too long if he keeps on this current path he&#039;s on.]]></description>
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<a href="http://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/#comment-608445" rel="nofollow">@Rob</a></p>
<blockquote><p>
In the mean time I am cheering Jens on for doing something that is brave, hard man awesome and cool, just going for it. I wish him luck and am betting that he may make it</p>
</blockquote>
<p>&#8230;until he announces Ondrej Sosenka is &#8220;coaching&#8221; him ?! I suspect Sir Bradley is sitting somewhere rolling his eyes and being a bit &#8220;sweary&#8221; this afternoon. As for <a href="//www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/', 'Faboo');" rel="nofollow">Faboo</a>, well he&#8217;ll just be whinging, as usual these days.</p>
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<p>The day <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#Faboo">Faboo</a> has a crack at the hour, he&#8217;d whinge an hour is too long if he keeps on this current path he&#8217;s on.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 17:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-608400&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Mike_P&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-608400&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-596865&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Puffy&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-596865&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-595043&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Mikael Liddy&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-595043&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-594763&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Puffy&lt;/a&gt; Brett&#039;s openly pointed the finger in Voigt&#039;s direction for many a year now, there are some relevant questions being asked &#038; what better time to ask than when there are so many platitudes being sent his way thanks to the cult following Jens has been so happy to embrace?

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
But&#039;s over now. It&#039;s done, he&#039;s out. Nothing can be gained from it.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Oh no he&#039;s not! Just when we thought it was safe, he&#039;s only decided to go for The Hour! I shit you not.....

&lt;a href=&quot;javascript:vm_DisplayContent(&#039;http%3A%2F%2Fapp.bronto.com%2Fpublic%2F%3Fq%3Dpreview_message%26amp%3Bfn%3DLink%26amp%3Bid%3D7854jrgel8vjepr0ivbzyr41ldb59%26amp%3Bssid%3D31334%26amp%3Bt%3D3&#039;, &#039;&#039;);&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://app.bronto.com/public/?q=preview_message&#038;fn=Link&#038;id=7854jrgel8vjepr0ivbzyr41ldb59&#038;ssid=31334&#038;t=3&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
http://www.trekfactoryracing.com/news/jens-voigt-targets-hour-record-september-18

Fuck yeah!]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-596865" rel="nofollow">@Puffy</a></p>
<blockquote cite="#commentbody-596865"><p>
<a href="#comment-595043" rel="nofollow">@Mikael Liddy</a></p>
<blockquote cite="#commentbody-595043"><p>
<a href="#comment-594763" rel="nofollow">@Puffy</a> Brett&#8217;s openly pointed the finger in Voigt&#8217;s direction for many a year now, there are some relevant questions being asked &amp; what better time to ask than when there are so many platitudes being sent his way thanks to the cult following Jens has been so happy to embrace?</p>
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<p>But&#8217;s over now. It&#8217;s done, he&#8217;s out. Nothing can be gained from it.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Oh no he&#8217;s not! Just when we thought it was safe, he&#8217;s only decided to go for The Hour! I shit you not&#8230;..</p>
<p><a href="javascript:vm_DisplayContent('http%3A%2F%2Fapp.bronto.com%2Fpublic%2F%3Fq%3Dpreview_message%26amp%3Bfn%3DLink%26amp%3Bid%3D7854jrgel8vjepr0ivbzyr41ldb59%26amp%3Bssid%3D31334%26amp%3Bt%3D3', '');" rel="nofollow">http://app.bronto.com/public/?q=preview_message&#038;fn=Link&#038;id=7854jrgel8vjepr0ivbzyr41ldb59&#038;ssid=31334&#038;t=3</a></p>
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<p><a href="http://www.trekfactoryracing.com/news/jens-voigt-targets-hour-record-september-18" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.trekfactoryracing.com/news/jens-voigt-targets-hour-record-september-18</a></p>
<p>Fuck yeah!</p>
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		By: Bespoke		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 16:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-608557&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Rob&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-608557&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-608546&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@frank&lt;/a&gt; am I wrong but didn&#039;t @ Buck do this for your attempt? I nominate him to do it - he did such a good job!

(Big shit eatting smiley face)

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I believe he did: http://www.velominati.com/racing/festum-prophetae-the-impossible-hour/]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-608546" rel="nofollow">@frank</a> am I wrong but didn&#8217;t @ Buck do this for your attempt? I nominate him to do it &#8211; he did such a good job!</p>
<p>(Big shit eatting smiley face)</p>
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<p>I believe he did: <a href="http://www.velominati.com/racing/festum-prophetae-the-impossible-hour/" rel="ugc">http://www.velominati.com/racing/festum-prophetae-the-impossible-hour/</a></p>
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		By: wiscot		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wiscot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 16:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-608546&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@frank&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-608546&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-608493&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@wiscot&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-608493&quot;&gt;
Hell, I&#039;m rooting all the way for Jens. Whatever happened in the past, you know he&#039;ll do this clean as the dope control boys will watch ever pedal stroke and test the shit out of his samples. Again, whatever happened in the past, Voigt isn&#039;t going to rick something this ballsy on dope. I wouldn&#039;t bet against him at all. Maybe we have an extra special VSP to guess the distance like we did with Frank a couple of years back?

If Jens gets the record, sure raises the bar/puts pressure on Wiggins and Fabs doesn&#039;t it? I mean those guys would prep to the n-th degree, Jens does it as a swansong at the end of a busy season. Hell, if Obree did two attempts in two days (one incomplete, one successful) then Jens can do it. I&#039;m stoked about this.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I doubt I&#039;ll have time to program the system to go for time guesses but its a great idea and I&#039;ll certainly give it my best shot!

In any case, I&#039;m wicked stoked for this! Can&#039;t wait to see this and hopefully it ushers in a new era of Hour attempts!

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
As always, I&#039;m humbled by the amount of time you and the Keepers put into this site. If time isn&#039;t in your favor, I&#039;m sure we all understand. I&#039;m sure we could all throw up our guesses on a fresh article and posters can keep track of who gets closest. Keep it fun and low key. (So says the guy whose VSP picks have been unadulterated shite all year!)]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-608493" rel="nofollow">@wiscot</a></p>
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Hell, I&#8217;m rooting all the way for Jens. Whatever happened in the past, you know he&#8217;ll do this clean as the dope control boys will watch ever pedal stroke and test the shit out of his samples. Again, whatever happened in the past, Voigt isn&#8217;t going to rick something this ballsy on dope. I wouldn&#8217;t bet against him at all. Maybe we have an extra special VSP to guess the distance like we did with Frank a couple of years back?</p>
<p>If Jens gets the record, sure raises the bar/puts pressure on Wiggins and Fabs doesn&#8217;t it? I mean those guys would prep to the n-th degree, Jens does it as a swansong at the end of a busy season. Hell, if Obree did two attempts in two days (one incomplete, one successful) then Jens can do it. I&#8217;m stoked about this.</p>
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<p>I doubt I&#8217;ll have time to program the system to go for time guesses but its a great idea and I&#8217;ll certainly give it my best shot!</p>
<p>In any case, I&#8217;m wicked stoked for this! Can&#8217;t wait to see this and hopefully it ushers in a new era of Hour attempts!</p>
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<p>As always, I&#8217;m humbled by the amount of time you and the Keepers put into this site. If time isn&#8217;t in your favor, I&#8217;m sure we all understand. I&#8217;m sure we could all throw up our guesses on a fresh article and posters can keep track of who gets closest. Keep it fun and low key. (So says the guy whose VSP picks have been unadulterated shite all year!)</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 16:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-608546&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@frank&lt;/a&gt;  am I wrong but didn&#039;t @ Buck do this for your attempt? I nominate him to do it - he did such a good job!

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-608546" rel="nofollow">@frank</a>  am I wrong but didn&#8217;t @ Buck do this for your attempt? I nominate him to do it &#8211; he did such a good job!</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 16:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-608493&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@wiscot&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-608493&quot;&gt;
Hell, I&#039;m rooting all the way for Jens. Whatever happened in the past, you know he&#039;ll do this clean as the dope control boys will watch ever pedal stroke and test the shit out of his samples. Again, whatever happened in the past, Voigt isn&#039;t going to rick something this ballsy on dope. I wouldn&#039;t bet against him at all. Maybe we have an extra special VSP to guess the distance like we did with Frank a couple of years back?

If Jens gets the record, sure raises the bar/puts pressure on Wiggins and Fabs doesn&#039;t it? I mean those guys would prep to the n-th degree, Jens does it as a swansong at the end of a busy season. Hell, if Obree did two attempts in two days (one incomplete, one successful) then Jens can do it. I&#039;m stoked about this.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I doubt I&#039;ll have time to program the system to go for time guesses but its a great idea and I&#039;ll certainly give it my best shot!

In any case, I&#039;m wicked stoked for this! Can&#039;t wait to see this and hopefully it ushers in a new era of Hour attempts!]]></description>
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Hell, I&#8217;m rooting all the way for Jens. Whatever happened in the past, you know he&#8217;ll do this clean as the dope control boys will watch ever pedal stroke and test the shit out of his samples. Again, whatever happened in the past, Voigt isn&#8217;t going to rick something this ballsy on dope. I wouldn&#8217;t bet against him at all. Maybe we have an extra special VSP to guess the distance like we did with Frank a couple of years back?</p>
<p>If Jens gets the record, sure raises the bar/puts pressure on Wiggins and Fabs doesn&#8217;t it? I mean those guys would prep to the n-th degree, Jens does it as a swansong at the end of a busy season. Hell, if Obree did two attempts in two days (one incomplete, one successful) then Jens can do it. I&#8217;m stoked about this.</p>
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<p>I doubt I&#8217;ll have time to program the system to go for time guesses but its a great idea and I&#8217;ll certainly give it my best shot!</p>
<p>In any case, I&#8217;m wicked stoked for this! Can&#8217;t wait to see this and hopefully it ushers in a new era of Hour attempts!</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 15:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-608493&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@wiscot&lt;/a&gt; +1 for the VSP idea.  I think we&#039;re all going to be stoked for it and rooting for him (oops, I almost sound Murican). Like everyone else, I&#039;m just surprised.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-608493" rel="nofollow">@wiscot</a> +1 for the VSP idea.  I think we&#8217;re all going to be stoked for it and rooting for him (oops, I almost sound Murican). Like everyone else, I&#8217;m just surprised.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 15:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hell, I&#039;m rooting all the way for Jens. Whatever happened in the past, you know he&#039;ll do this clean as the dope control boys will watch ever pedal stroke and test the shit out of his samples. Again, whatever happened in the past, Voigt isn&#039;t going to rick something this ballsy on dope. I wouldn&#039;t bet against him at all. Maybe we have an extra special VSP to guess the distance like we did with Frank a couple of years back?

If Jens gets the record, sure raises the bar/puts pressure on Wiggins and Fabs doesn&#039;t it? I mean those guys would prep to the n-th degree, Jens does it as a swansong at the end of a busy season. Hell, if Obree did two attempts in two days (one incomplete, one successful) then Jens can do it. I&#039;m stoked about this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell, I&#8217;m rooting all the way for Jens. Whatever happened in the past, you know he&#8217;ll do this clean as the dope control boys will watch ever pedal stroke and test the shit out of his samples. Again, whatever happened in the past, Voigt isn&#8217;t going to rick something this ballsy on dope. I wouldn&#8217;t bet against him at all. Maybe we have an extra special VSP to guess the distance like we did with Frank a couple of years back?</p>
<p>If Jens gets the record, sure raises the bar/puts pressure on Wiggins and Fabs doesn&#8217;t it? I mean those guys would prep to the n-th degree, Jens does it as a swansong at the end of a busy season. Hell, if Obree did two attempts in two days (one incomplete, one successful) then Jens can do it. I&#8217;m stoked about this.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 15:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-608459&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Mike_P&lt;/a&gt;  had to look up Sosenka and wiki goes straight to his doping but f me methamphetamine in 2008 for a time trial! I thought Tommy Simpson disproved the efficacy of that shit.

In full disclosure, of my questionable &quot;history&quot;, for laughs during winter roller racing I got a friend to give me (this was early 80&#039;, he was a lawyer) a little Peruvian powder and between heats I snuck off to the loo. Came out at the start of the 40 second kilo ride like I was going to break 30 seconds but by 20 to go I was just hot air.

As this was done to see if I would gain an advantage by getting something for nothing - the  lesson learned was NO.

And just for the record I was never tempted to even TRY anything in open racing except caffeine and that was a short lived experiment with CocaCola syrup in a few races. A few buddies were injecting B12 and I&#039;m sure there was other stuff going on in the level above me, the ones who were headed to the national team, but I never saw it.

As to Faboohoo and Wiggo, well they just missed their windows of immortality!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-608459" rel="nofollow">@Mike_P</a>  had to look up Sosenka and wiki goes straight to his doping but f me methamphetamine in 2008 for a time trial! I thought Tommy Simpson disproved the efficacy of that shit.</p>
<p>In full disclosure, of my questionable &#8220;history&#8221;, for laughs during winter roller racing I got a friend to give me (this was early 80&#8242;, he was a lawyer) a little Peruvian powder and between heats I snuck off to the loo. Came out at the start of the 40 second kilo ride like I was going to break 30 seconds but by 20 to go I was just hot air.</p>
<p>As this was done to see if I would gain an advantage by getting something for nothing &#8211; the  lesson learned was NO.</p>
<p>And just for the record I was never tempted to even TRY anything in open racing except caffeine and that was a short lived experiment with CocaCola syrup in a few races. A few buddies were injecting B12 and I&#8217;m sure there was other stuff going on in the level above me, the ones who were headed to the national team, but I never saw it.</p>
<p>As to Faboohoo and Wiggo, well they just missed their windows of immortality!</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 14:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-608445&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Rob&lt;/a&gt;

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In the mean time I am cheering Jens on for doing something that is brave, hard man awesome and cool, just going for it. I wish him luck and am betting that he may make it

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...until he announces Ondrej Sosenka is &quot;coaching&quot; him ?!   I suspect Sir Bradley is sitting somewhere rolling his eyes and being a bit &quot;sweary&quot; this afternoon.  As for Faboo, well he&#039;ll just be whinging, as usual these days.]]></description>
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In the mean time I am cheering Jens on for doing something that is brave, hard man awesome and cool, just going for it. I wish him luck and am betting that he may make it</p>
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<p>&#8230;until he announces Ondrej Sosenka is &#8220;coaching&#8221; him ?!   I suspect Sir Bradley is sitting somewhere rolling his eyes and being a bit &#8220;sweary&#8221; this afternoon.  As for <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#Faboo">Faboo</a>, well he&#8217;ll just be whinging, as usual these days.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 14:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And I should say thank you to Brett for speaking the truth and all the good comments in this post. It is something that should be talked about in every sport (pro golf any one?). This dilemma is the paradox of being a fan in the 21st C.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I should say thank you to Brett for speaking the truth and all the good comments in this post. It is something that should be talked about in every sport (pro golf any one?). This dilemma is the paradox of being a fan in the 21st C.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 14:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-608400&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Mike_P&lt;/a&gt;  Fanfuckintastic!


Ok, maybe I&#039;m strange but I can hold two concepts in my tiny brain at once. First, Yensie is just about the perfect package for this crowd in terms of hard work, taking chances and going for it when others sit back calculating their odds. Plus he is a fun, nice guy.

Part two, Jasus H. Cripes can we get over the  - they did it or did not do it thing - they all did some shite, from day one and still some are. Is Voight worse or better than others? Maybe that is the question but I do not think it is a question with an answer until everyone admits and confesses and my guess is that won&#039;t happen unless there is amnesty. 

For me this means that I hope the trend toward clean racing grows by peer pressure at the least and from consistency from the powers above to really clamp down on the heavy abuse.

In the mean time I am cheering Jens on for doing something that is brave, hard man awesome and cool, just going for it. I wish him luck and am betting that he may make it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-608400" rel="nofollow">@Mike_P</a>  Fanfuckintastic!</p>
<p>Ok, maybe I&#8217;m strange but I can hold two concepts in my tiny brain at once. First, Yensie is just about the perfect package for this crowd in terms of hard work, taking chances and going for it when others sit back calculating their odds. Plus he is a fun, nice guy.</p>
<p>Part two, Jasus H. Cripes can we get over the  &#8211; they did it or did not do it thing &#8211; they all did some shite, from day one and still some are. Is Voight worse or better than others? Maybe that is the question but I do not think it is a question with an answer until everyone admits and confesses and my guess is that won&#8217;t happen unless there is amnesty. </p>
<p>For me this means that I hope the trend toward clean racing grows by peer pressure at the least and from consistency from the powers above to really clamp down on the heavy abuse.</p>
<p>In the mean time I am cheering Jens on for doing something that is brave, hard man awesome and cool, just going for it. I wish him luck and am betting that he may make it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 13:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-596865&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Puffy&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-596865&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-595043&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Mikael Liddy&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-595043&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-594763&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Puffy&lt;/a&gt; Brett&#039;s openly pointed the finger in Voigt&#039;s direction for many a year now, there are some relevant questions being asked &#038; what better time to ask than when there are so many platitudes being sent his way thanks to the cult following Jens has been so happy to embrace?

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But&#039;s over now. It&#039;s done, he&#039;s out. Nothing can be gained from it.

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Oh no he&#039;s not!  Just when we thought it was safe, he&#039;s only decided to go for The Hour!  I shit you not.....

http://app.bronto.com/public/?q=preview_message&#038;fn=Link&#038;id=7854jrgel8vjepr0ivbzyr41ldb59&#038;ssid=31334&#038;t=3]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-595043" rel="nofollow">@Mikael Liddy</a></p>
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<a href="#comment-594763" rel="nofollow">@Puffy</a> Brett&#8217;s openly pointed the finger in Voigt&#8217;s direction for many a year now, there are some relevant questions being asked &amp; what better time to ask than when there are so many platitudes being sent his way thanks to the cult following Jens has been so happy to embrace?</p>
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<p>But&#8217;s over now. It&#8217;s done, he&#8217;s out. Nothing can be gained from it.</p>
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<p>Oh no he&#8217;s not!  Just when we thought it was safe, he&#8217;s only decided to go for The Hour!  I shit you not&#8230;..</p>
<p><a href="http://app.bronto.com/public/?q=preview_message&#038;fn=Link&#038;id=7854jrgel8vjepr0ivbzyr41ldb59&#038;ssid=31334&#038;t=3" rel="nofollow ugc">http://app.bronto.com/public/?q=preview_message&#038;fn=Link&#038;id=7854jrgel8vjepr0ivbzyr41ldb59&#038;ssid=31334&#038;t=3</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 01:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-595043&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Mikael Liddy&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-595043&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-594763&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Puffy&lt;/a&gt; Brett&#039;s openly pointed the finger in Voigt&#039;s direction for many a year now, there are some relevant questions being asked &#038; what better time to ask than when there are so many platitudes being sent his way thanks to the cult following Jens has been so happy to embrace?

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But&#039;s over now. It&#039;s done, he&#039;s out. Nothing can be gained from it.]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-594763" rel="nofollow">@Puffy</a> Brett&#8217;s openly pointed the finger in Voigt&#8217;s direction for many a year now, there are some relevant questions being asked &amp; what better time to ask than when there are so many platitudes being sent his way thanks to the cult following Jens has been so happy to embrace?</p>
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<p>But&#8217;s over now. It&#8217;s done, he&#8217;s out. Nothing can be gained from it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 05:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-594763&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Puffy&lt;/a&gt; Brett&#039;s openly pointed the finger in Voigt&#039;s direction for many a year now, there are some relevant questions being asked &#038; what better time to ask than when there are so many platitudes being sent his way thanks to the cult following Jens has been so happy to embrace?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-594763" rel="nofollow">@Puffy</a> Brett&#8217;s openly pointed the finger in Voigt&#8217;s direction for many a year now, there are some relevant questions being asked &amp; what better time to ask than when there are so many platitudes being sent his way thanks to the cult following Jens has been so happy to embrace?</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 02:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why did you feel the need to point the finger at the guy as he walks out the door? Was it really necessary?]]></description>
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		By: Gilly		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 17:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-592637&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Mikael Liddy&lt;/a&gt;

Point taken Mikael. This piece just feels like a bit of a cheap hatchet job  to me. I wouldn&#039;t class myself as JV&#039;s number one fan but I did enjoy watching him race.]]></description>
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<p>Point taken Mikael. This piece just feels like a bit of a cheap hatchet job  to me. I wouldn&#8217;t class myself as JV&#8217;s number one fan but I did enjoy watching him race.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-592551&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@gilly&lt;/a&gt; I wouldn&#039;t be too quick to assume that Cothodor is off any of the shit lists around here...the points you make in your last paragraph are probably why Voigt generally gets a pass on the full on accusations, but there&#039;s long been an uneasy feeling about the hero worship he&#039;s given &#038; seems to bask in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-592551" rel="nofollow">@gilly</a> I wouldn&#8217;t be too quick to assume that Cothodor is off any of the shit lists around here&#8230;the points you make in your last paragraph are probably why Voigt generally gets a pass on the full on accusations, but there&#8217;s long been an uneasy feeling about the hero worship he&#8217;s given &amp; seems to bask in.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2014 22:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bugger me, I&#039;m struggling a bit with this one Brett. You&#039;re right to talk about double standards and the doping saints and sinners, with the saints being those who have doped but that we somehow manage to forgive. It&#039;s the one aspect of Velominati that I&#039;m at odds with. I don&#039;t recall Contador acknowledging taking clenbuterol, yet he&#039;s off the naughty list , probably because his winning smile and  PR machine is more effective than Valverde&#039;s, who I must admit, doping aside, does seem to be a complete COTHO. Marco is gone and takes the facts with him. Is it better to have doped and shown penitence than to wish you hadn&#039;t and keep that from the fans? The only ones who can know for sure are Jens himself and his team mates, DS&#039;s, Swannies and med staff and for whatever reason their silence is deafening. Jens has denied it, but then again so did Michael Barry.

It&#039;s too easy to write off a fantastic career with a few paragraphs and a photo suite with Jens alongside Gunderson, Riis, O&#039;Grady et al, surely he was worth a bit more than that? Jens did win races admittedly, but nothing like on the scale of Gunderson, who seems to be the main comparison here. I simply can&#039;t fathom some of the comments on this piece, such as his solo escapades being a little bit sad!! Isn&#039;t that one of the reasons that we all love this sport, watching the break form and seeing if it will last, as many of Voight&#039;s did.

I prefer to remember the character of the man, riding 15km on a kids bike in the 2010 Tour to avoid elimination, the horrific faceplant descending the Petit St Bernard in 2009 that would have ended a less resilient rider&#039;s career. Watching him churning a massive gear on the climbs. The time he had for the fans and his genuine warmth.

He tried to do the things that we wanted to see in a bike race, that&#039;s not a bad legacy is it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bugger me, I&#8217;m struggling a bit with this one Brett. You&#8217;re right to talk about double standards and the doping saints and sinners, with the saints being those who have doped but that we somehow manage to forgive. It&#8217;s the one aspect of Velominati that I&#8217;m at odds with. I don&#8217;t recall Contador acknowledging taking clenbuterol, yet he&#8217;s off the naughty list , probably because his winning smile and  PR machine is more effective than Valverde&#8217;s, who I must admit, doping aside, does seem to be a complete <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#COTHO">COTHO</a>. Marco is gone and takes the facts with him. Is it better to have doped and shown penitence than to wish you hadn&#8217;t and keep that from the fans? The only ones who can know for sure are Jens himself and his team mates, DS&#8217;s, Swannies and med staff and for whatever reason their silence is deafening. Jens has denied it, but then again so did Michael Barry.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too easy to write off a fantastic career with a few paragraphs and a photo suite with Jens alongside Gunderson, Riis, O&#8217;Grady et al, surely he was worth a bit more than that? Jens did win races admittedly, but nothing like on the scale of Gunderson, who seems to be the main comparison here. I simply can&#8217;t fathom some of the comments on this piece, such as his solo escapades being a little bit sad!! Isn&#8217;t that one of the reasons that we all love this sport, watching the break form and seeing if it will last, as many of Voight&#8217;s did.</p>
<p>I prefer to remember the character of the man, riding 15km on a kids bike in the 2010 Tour to avoid elimination, the horrific faceplant descending the Petit St Bernard in 2009 that would have ended a less resilient rider&#8217;s career. Watching him churning a massive gear on the climbs. The time he had for the fans and his genuine warmth.</p>
<p>He tried to do the things that we wanted to see in a bike race, that&#8217;s not a bad legacy is it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great read...hits the nail on the head when you say that the reason why people are able to ignore Jens&#039; undoubtedly shady past is that he is simply a likeable guy. LA might have gotten a better reception to his confession were he not a bullying, control-freak psychopath. The other thing is LA duped the whole world and made millions, I imagine Jens is not a multi-millionaire and is relatively unknown outside of cycling.

Nice comment about the Aussie Rules doping too. I get the p*ss taken out of me by my non-cycling mates for following these &quot;doped-up riders&quot; but they are kidding themselves if they think the English Premier league isn&#039;t awash with doping.

I&#039;d like to see Jens come clean, maybe write a book. Funny how I could probably accept the excuse &quot;but everyone else was doing it&quot; from Jens but not from LA.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great read&#8230;hits the nail on the head when you say that the reason why people are able to ignore Jens&#8217; undoubtedly shady past is that he is simply a likeable guy. LA might have gotten a better reception to his confession were he not a bullying, control-freak psychopath. The other thing is LA duped the whole world and made millions, I imagine Jens is not a multi-millionaire and is relatively unknown outside of cycling.</p>
<p>Nice comment about the Aussie Rules doping too. I get the p*ss taken out of me by my non-cycling mates for following these &#8220;doped-up riders&#8221; but they are kidding themselves if they think the English Premier league isn&#8217;t awash with doping.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see Jens come clean, maybe write a book. Funny how I could probably accept the excuse &#8220;but everyone else was doing it&#8221; from Jens but not from LA.</p>
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		By: VeloSix		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2014 15:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-582150&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@freddy&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-582150&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-581946&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@brett&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-581946&quot;&gt;
I was going to call the article &quot;Shut up Jens&quot;, but maybe &quot;Speak up Jens&quot; is more appropriate...

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Now that Jens is retired, maybe he&#039;s got a book in the works and will tell us what he knows.

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Isn&#039;t this a given these days.... the book part...?]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-581946" rel="nofollow">@brett</a></p>
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I was going to call the article &#8220;Shut up Jens&#8221;, but maybe &#8220;Speak up Jens&#8221; is more appropriate&#8230;</p>
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<p>Now that Jens is retired, maybe he&#8217;s got a book in the works and will tell us what he knows.</p>
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<p>Isn&#8217;t this a given these days&#8230;. the book part&#8230;?</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2014 15:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-579630&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@wilburrox&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-579630&quot;&gt;
WOW... Man I&#039;m showing how little I know about history and how naive I am about this kinda thing... ol&#039; Jensie I&#039;ve come to think of as one cool cat and quite a lot of fun to watch race. And it never crossed my mind to think of him in this light. I don&#039;t know, maybe all of the sh** associated with the doping and such just doesn&#039;t confront me and leave me questioning everything.



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WOW&#8230; Man I&#8217;m showing how little I know about history and how naive I am about this kinda thing&#8230; ol&#8217; Jensie I&#8217;ve come to think of as one cool cat and quite a lot of fun to watch race. And it never crossed my mind to think of him in this light. I don&#8217;t know, maybe all of the sh** associated with the doping and such just doesn&#8217;t confront me and leave me questioning everything.</p>
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<p>Exactly my thoughts as well.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2014 04:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-588573&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Superman Sam&lt;/a&gt; you forgot to mention the club &#038; league taking legal action against ASADA claiming their investigation was illegal...sound familiar?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-588573" rel="nofollow">@Superman Sam</a> you forgot to mention the club &amp; league taking legal action against ASADA claiming their investigation was illegal&#8230;sound familiar?</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Super Sam. As someone who doesn&#039;t follow Aussie Rules, but keeps an eye on sports wide and broad, that is very interesting to know. I hate how cycling gets dragged through the mud as the dirtiest sport.

I also love ice hockey and I know if they started looking...a lot of those dudes would be very, very dirty. The game has gotten too fast and crazy for those guys to be just playing on ping pong training and Labatts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Super Sam. As someone who doesn&#8217;t follow Aussie Rules, but keeps an eye on sports wide and broad, that is very interesting to know. I hate how cycling gets dragged through the mud as the dirtiest sport.</p>
<p>I also love ice hockey and I know if they started looking&#8230;a lot of those dudes would be very, very dirty. The game has gotten too fast and crazy for those guys to be just playing on ping pong training and Labatts.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2014 06:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-582150&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@freddy&lt;/a&gt;

Not if that book is anything like Robbie McEwen&#039;s.

When he didn&#039;t win it was everyone else&#039;s fault. When he did win it was due to his awesome natural ability.

Not one word about how he won green jerseys while everyone around him doped. Not even much of a mention about how the spot came up on Radioshack riding with Lance.

It&#039;s a miracle!]]></description>
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<p>Not if that book is anything like Robbie McEwen&#8217;s.</p>
<p>When he didn&#8217;t win it was everyone else&#8217;s fault. When he did win it was due to his awesome natural ability.</p>
<p>Not one word about how he won green jerseys while everyone around him doped. Not even much of a mention about how the spot came up on Radioshack riding with Lance.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a miracle!</p>
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		By: Superman Sam		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2014 05:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the Australian Football League (AFL) there is a team called Essendon currently mired in a sorry saga of doping that has so many similarities to cycling.

The AFL administration has its own McQuaid in Andrew Demetriou, a CEO who has left the sport in arguably its worst position ever in terms of drugs scandals, abysmal governance, fan disapproval, plummeting attendances, etc. yet he seemed to run it as his own fiefdom with a huge pay packet.

When the scandal broke, the AFL CEO directly contacted the club they were being investigated by the Federal Police. Warning the subject of an investiagtion and advising them of the police interest is a crime in most countries.

There is a player at the club called Dustin Fletcher who is similarly as old as Jens, still playing at an elite level where the physical demands of aerobic fitness and big body contact kill off men half his age. No one seems willing to question how or why this guy is still there, largely because he&#039;s by all accounts a nice guy. The excuse is that he &quot;reads the play well&quot;. The odds of not doping while him being at a club under investigation for systematic and frankenstein-like medical programmes are not worth considering.

There are Doctor Fuentes and other assorted quacks running around, with nicknames like Dr Ageless.

There is an Omerta, with an ex senior Essendon player now well-paid commentator who came out early on claiming he and his team mates were merely given vitamins. Like LA, this man bullied a player who spoke out, with that player now run out of the sport (Kyle Reimers is their own version of Christophe Bassons).

A subservient media panders along, bullied by the perpetrators and golden haired hero. A major journo from New Limited has been outed as the mouthpiece of the dopers, in return for exclusives he has been casting doubt on WADA, the process and anyone else but the dopers themselves. A woman journalist who stood up to question this scandal has been called everything under the sun by the dopers and their lackeys (ala Betsy Andreu).

The main perpetrator is now back in charge, having been suspended for a year only to be sent by the club to do a MBA course in France at Fontainbleu.

Great post by the way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Australian Football League (AFL) there is a team called Essendon currently mired in a sorry saga of doping that has so many similarities to cycling.</p>
<p>The AFL administration has its own McQuaid in Andrew Demetriou, a CEO who has left the sport in arguably its worst position ever in terms of drugs scandals, abysmal governance, fan disapproval, plummeting attendances, etc. yet he seemed to run it as his own fiefdom with a huge pay packet.</p>
<p>When the scandal broke, the AFL CEO directly contacted the club they were being investigated by the Federal Police. Warning the subject of an investiagtion and advising them of the police interest is a crime in most countries.</p>
<p>There is a player at the club called Dustin Fletcher who is similarly as old as Jens, still playing at an elite level where the physical demands of aerobic fitness and big body contact kill off men half his age. No one seems willing to question how or why this guy is still there, largely because he&#8217;s by all accounts a nice guy. The excuse is that he &#8220;reads the play well&#8221;. The odds of not doping while him being at a club under investigation for systematic and frankenstein-like medical programmes are not worth considering.</p>
<p>There are Doctor Fuentes and other assorted quacks running around, with nicknames like Dr Ageless.</p>
<p>There is an Omerta, with an ex senior Essendon player now well-paid commentator who came out early on claiming he and his team mates were merely given vitamins. Like LA, this man bullied a player who spoke out, with that player now run out of the sport (Kyle Reimers is their own version of Christophe Bassons).</p>
<p>A subservient media panders along, bullied by the perpetrators and golden haired hero. A major journo from New Limited has been outed as the mouthpiece of the dopers, in return for exclusives he has been casting doubt on WADA, the process and anyone else but the dopers themselves. A woman journalist who stood up to question this scandal has been called everything under the sun by the dopers and their lackeys (ala Betsy Andreu).</p>
<p>The main perpetrator is now back in charge, having been suspended for a year only to be sent by the club to do a MBA course in France at Fontainbleu.</p>
<p>Great post by the way.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2014 02:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Given his &quot;everything seems funny to me&quot; attitude about life, punctuated by his hilarious riff on beating Astana &quot;and then, you know, smoke (fffftt!) all the way to Paris,&quot; it seems clear that our boy Jens doped.  A lot.  But &lt;em&gt;it was the Mexican dope, dude&lt;/em&gt;, not the stuff in Spanish Meat.  Back when I was trying to climb from Cat IV to Cat III, living in a group house with a bunch of bike messengers, the best way to train was to wake up, roll a bone, glue up some tires (sniff) and go out for a killer ride.  That&#039;s how we got the legs to shut up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given his &#8220;everything seems funny to me&#8221; attitude about life, punctuated by his hilarious riff on beating Astana &#8220;and then, you know, smoke (fffftt!) all the way to Paris,&#8221; it seems clear that our boy Jens doped.  A lot.  But <em>it was the Mexican dope, dude</em>, not the stuff in Spanish Meat.  Back when I was trying to climb from Cat IV to Cat III, living in a group house with a bunch of bike messengers, the best way to train was to wake up, roll a bone, glue up some tires (sniff) and go out for a killer ride.  That&#8217;s how we got the legs to shut up.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2014 20:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, dope or not, you would have hoped that, over the last twenty years, once the urge to go came over him, Jensie would have learned to wait a k or two.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-581933&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Rom&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-581933&quot;&gt;
Ok, as no one has jumped in, in a bad German accent:

&quot;Shut up Brett&quot;

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Ok, as no one has jumped in, in a bad German accent:</p>
<p>&#8220;Shut up Brett&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2014 10:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice one, Bretto! And thanks for this. I was just mulling over his career last week. &quot;How can everyone be so thrilled over this. Isn&#039;t there at least a hint of suspicion?&quot; Lots of good stuff here to think about. It just all seems a bit to cheery for me, especially after how badly folks have felt burned by former heroes they absolutely refused to even consider might not be telling the truth.

Cycling backwater. That is awesome.

wilburrox - I don&#039;t even like or follow baseball, but Cal Ripken has always rubbed me the wrong way. Not sure I even know why, just seems like a selfish cunt. So yeah, consider that streak and his era, now maybe I have a reason.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one, Bretto! And thanks for this. I was just mulling over his career last week. &#8220;How can everyone be so thrilled over this. Isn&#8217;t there at least a hint of suspicion?&#8221; Lots of good stuff here to think about. It just all seems a bit to cheery for me, especially after how badly folks have felt burned by former heroes they absolutely refused to even consider might not be telling the truth.</p>
<p>Cycling backwater. That is awesome.</p>
<p>wilburrox &#8211; I don&#8217;t even like or follow baseball, but Cal Ripken has always rubbed me the wrong way. Not sure I even know why, just seems like a selfish cunt. So yeah, consider that streak and his era, now maybe I have a reason.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 23:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Jensie never doped.

The East Germans gave him one shot of something in the 1988. He was young, he had no say in the matter.

Whatever it was, that shit&#039;s still working.

The Jensie never doped.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Jensie never doped.</p>
<p>The East Germans gave him one shot of something in the 1988. He was young, he had no say in the matter.</p>
<p>Whatever it was, that shit&#8217;s still working.</p>
<p>The Jensie never doped.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-582842&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@dyalander&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-582842&quot;&gt;
Not sure how I feel about this one.

While the pervasive presence of doping is clear; I have to admit, I&#039;ve never made the jump to assume that literally all of the peloton was doping. So given I&#039;ve never made that leap, I need something more to be convinced Jens doped. Being surrounded by dopers, a doper does not make. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised, but I just don&#039;t share the certainty others clearly feel. I also agree that the circumstances reasonably raise questions. So asking one of them - which performances are Jens&#039; questionable ones? I&#039;m not seeing him inexplicably winning stages then backing up. I&#039;m not seeing palmeres littered with victories beyond his clear talent. He won a occasionally but generally paid the price. Or am I being selective in my recollections?

All that aside - what of his responsibility tell all? I do relate to that sense that there could be some value in him coming clean about all that he must have seen. There is also a level of complicity in withholding and lying about what you know - and I&#039;m more convinced he must have seen more than he admits to than I am that he took more than he admits to.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I tend to agree with you here. We don&#039;t condemn every rider that was even remotely a part of that era do we? If we&#039;re going to assume that &lt;em&gt;everyone&lt;/em&gt; was doping, then we don&#039;t get to pick and choose which one&#039;s are going to be OK with us.

Just because I live in Milwaukee, it doesn&#039;t mean that I drink beer and eat brats every day. (Well, not &lt;em&gt;every &lt;/em&gt;day.)

I think there is a better than good chance that he did see more than he lets on, but I don&#039;t think that he has an obligation to do a tell-all of any sort. What purpose would that serve? We all know what happened during that era. Rehashing it over and over again will NOT help move the sport forward. I&#039;m not saying that we need to ignore it, certainly not. It happened in cycling, baseball, track and field. Pick a sport. But we have to find a way to move past it in a constructive way, and it&#039;s not just the responsibility of the UCI or USA Cycling, it&#039;s up to all of  us.

For me, I&#039;m a fan of Jens. He&#039;s funny, outgoing, and entertaining. Something that I think the sport is lacking sometimes. Plus, he gives everything he has every time he gets on the bike. I don&#039;t think any of us can fault him for that.]]></description>
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Not sure how I feel about this one.</p>
<p>While the pervasive presence of doping is clear; I have to admit, I&#8217;ve never made the jump to assume that literally all of the peloton was doping. So given I&#8217;ve never made that leap, I need something more to be convinced Jens doped. Being surrounded by dopers, a doper does not make. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised, but I just don&#8217;t share the certainty others clearly feel. I also agree that the circumstances reasonably raise questions. So asking one of them &#8211; which performances are Jens&#8217; questionable ones? I&#8217;m not seeing him inexplicably winning stages then backing up. I&#8217;m not seeing palmeres littered with victories beyond his clear talent. He won a occasionally but generally paid the price. Or am I being selective in my recollections?</p>
<p>All that aside &#8211; what of his responsibility tell all? I do relate to that sense that there could be some value in him coming clean about all that he must have seen. There is also a level of complicity in withholding and lying about what you know &#8211; and I&#8217;m more convinced he must have seen more than he admits to than I am that he took more than he admits to.</p>
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<p>I tend to agree with you here. We don&#8217;t condemn every rider that was even remotely a part of that era do we? If we&#8217;re going to assume that <em>everyone</em> was doping, then we don&#8217;t get to pick and choose which one&#8217;s are going to be OK with us.</p>
<p>Just because I live in Milwaukee, it doesn&#8217;t mean that I drink beer and eat brats every day. (Well, not <em>every </em>day.)</p>
<p>I think there is a better than good chance that he did see more than he lets on, but I don&#8217;t think that he has an obligation to do a tell-all of any sort. What purpose would that serve? We all know what happened during that era. Rehashing it over and over again will NOT help move the sport forward. I&#8217;m not saying that we need to ignore it, certainly not. It happened in cycling, baseball, track and field. Pick a sport. But we have to find a way to move past it in a constructive way, and it&#8217;s not just the responsibility of the UCI or USA Cycling, it&#8217;s up to all of  us.</p>
<p>For me, I&#8217;m a fan of Jens. He&#8217;s funny, outgoing, and entertaining. Something that I think the sport is lacking sometimes. Plus, he gives everything he has every time he gets on the bike. I don&#8217;t think any of us can fault him for that.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not sure how I feel about this one.

While the pervasive presence of doping is clear; I have to admit, I&#039;ve never made the jump to assume that literally all of the peloton was doping. So given I&#039;ve never made that leap, I need something more to be convinced Jens doped. Being surrounded by dopers, a doper does not make. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised, but I just don&#039;t share the certainty others clearly feel. I also agree that the circumstances reasonably raise questions. So asking one of them - which performances are Jens&#039; questionable ones? I&#039;m not seeing him inexplicably winning stages then backing up. I&#039;m not seeing palmeres littered with victories beyond his clear talent. He won a occasionally but generally paid the price. Or am I being selective in my recollections?

All that aside - what of his responsibility tell all? I do relate to that sense that there could be some value in him coming clean about all that he must have seen. There is also a level of complicity in withholding and lying about what you know - and I&#039;m more convinced he must have seen more than he admits to than I am that he took more than he admits to.]]></description>
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<p>While the pervasive presence of doping is clear; I have to admit, I&#8217;ve never made the jump to assume that literally all of the peloton was doping. So given I&#8217;ve never made that leap, I need something more to be convinced Jens doped. Being surrounded by dopers, a doper does not make. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised, but I just don&#8217;t share the certainty others clearly feel. I also agree that the circumstances reasonably raise questions. So asking one of them &#8211; which performances are Jens&#8217; questionable ones? I&#8217;m not seeing him inexplicably winning stages then backing up. I&#8217;m not seeing palmeres littered with victories beyond his clear talent. He won a occasionally but generally paid the price. Or am I being selective in my recollections?</p>
<p>All that aside &#8211; what of his responsibility tell all? I do relate to that sense that there could be some value in him coming clean about all that he must have seen. There is also a level of complicity in withholding and lying about what you know &#8211; and I&#8217;m more convinced he must have seen more than he admits to than I am that he took more than he admits to.</p>
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&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-582549&quot;&gt; but I now have Beer on tap !

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Cool! This your place?

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<p>Cool! This your place?</p>
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&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-581770&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-581759&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@piwakawaka&lt;/a&gt;

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I don&#039;t care that Jens doped. The way he vehemently denies ever even &lt;em&gt;seeing&lt;/em&gt; or &lt;em&gt;hearing &lt;/em&gt;over his career just insults us, his fans. That is the point I&#039;m making. Especially when all oh his contemporaries eventually admit that &quot;everyone was doing it&quot;, it was &quot;the culture&quot;... so how does Jens expect us to believe he was the exception and not only didn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;do it, &lt;/em&gt;but didn&#039;t even &lt;em&gt;know about it? &lt;/em&gt;And to so vigourously defend Armstrong really doesn&#039;t help his credibility.

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Julian Dean, anyone?

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Does he toe the same line? I&#039;m not &lt;em&gt;au fait&lt;/em&gt; with his stance or opinions, but would love to hear more...

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Yeah , saw nothing , heard nothing , took nothing...

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&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-581757&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@piwakawaka&lt;/a&gt;

PS we really need to catch up for a ride...

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Yep , been few and far between this winter , but I now have Beer on tap ! So ride we should , I&#039;ll be riding Sunday 9-12 , 90-100k ?

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<a href="#comment-581759" rel="nofollow">@piwakawaka</a></p>
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I don&#8217;t care that Jens doped. The way he vehemently denies ever even <em>seeing</em> or <em>hearing </em>over his career just insults us, his fans. That is the point I&#8217;m making. Especially when all oh his contemporaries eventually admit that &#8220;everyone was doing it&#8221;, it was &#8220;the culture&#8221;&#8230; so how does Jens expect us to believe he was the exception and not only didn&#8217;t <em>do it, </em>but didn&#8217;t even <em>know about it? </em>And to so vigourously defend Armstrong really doesn&#8217;t help his credibility.</p>
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<p>Julian Dean, anyone?</p>
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<p>Does he toe the same line? I&#8217;m not <em>au fait</em> with his stance or opinions, but would love to hear more&#8230;</p>
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<p>Yeah , saw nothing , heard nothing , took nothing&#8230;</p>
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<a href="#comment-581757" rel="nofollow">@piwakawaka</a></p>
<p>PS we really need to catch up for a ride&#8230;</p>
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<p>Yep , been few and far between this winter , but I now have Beer on tap ! So ride we should , I&#8217;ll be riding Sunday 9-12 , 90-100k ?</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 02:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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I was going to call the article &quot;Shut up Jens&quot;, but maybe &quot;Speak up Jens&quot; is more appropriate...

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I was going to call the article &#8220;Shut up Jens&#8221;, but maybe &#8220;Speak up Jens&#8221; is more appropriate&#8230;</p>
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<p>Now that Jens is retired, maybe he&#8217;s got a book in the works and will tell us what he knows.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Without a lot to add to the conversation, chalk me up as another who found him entertaining, but almost in a childishly amusing way.  Wouldn&#039;t dispute his place in the &quot;old times&quot;, but still managed to find him mildly funny and generally harmless.

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<p>Fair point that being honest and forthright may have been one way to improve his hard man status, though I don&#8217;t know that he really needs any improvement there.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 00:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The way the omerta was enforced by Quick-Step Omega Pharma with egg timer would make any rider currently under contract a little worried about speaking up. And jensie has what, twelve children to raise?

I am a Jens fan and have been for a long time. He is a man who likes to punish his bike. And he is a good interview and not afraid of the using the f word. I&#039;ll miss him. But I agree with Brett that he could, without implicating himself, still shed some light on cycling dark past. He is old enough to know something about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way the omerta was enforced by Quick-Step Omega Pharma with egg timer would make any rider currently under contract a little worried about speaking up. And jensie has what, twelve children to raise?</p>
<p>I am a Jens fan and have been for a long time. He is a man who likes to punish his bike. And he is a good interview and not afraid of the using the f word. I&#8217;ll miss him. But I agree with Brett that he could, without implicating himself, still shed some light on cycling dark past. He is old enough to know something about it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2014 23:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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Ok, as no one has jumped in, in a bad German accent:

&quot;Shut up Brett&quot;

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Nice. I was going to call the article &quot;Shut up Jens&quot;, but maybe &quot;Speak up Jens&quot; is more appropriate...]]></description>
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Ok, as no one has jumped in, in a bad German accent:</p>
<p>&#8220;Shut up Brett&#8221;</p>
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<p>Nice. I was going to call the article &#8220;Shut up Jens&#8221;, but maybe &#8220;Speak up Jens&#8221; is more appropriate&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2014 23:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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&quot;Shut up Brett&quot;]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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PS we really need to catch up for a ride...]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-581759&quot;&gt;
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I don&#039;t care that Jens doped. The way he vehemently denies ever even &lt;em&gt;seeing&lt;/em&gt; or &lt;em&gt;hearing &lt;/em&gt;over his career just insults us, his fans. That is the point I&#039;m making. Especially when all oh his contemporaries eventually admit that &quot;everyone was doing it&quot;, it was &quot;the culture&quot;... so how does Jens expect us to believe he was the exception and not only didn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;do it, &lt;/em&gt;but didn&#039;t even &lt;em&gt;know about it? &lt;/em&gt;And to so vigourously defend Armstrong really doesn&#039;t help his credibility.

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Julian Dean, anyone?

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Does he toe the same line? I&#039;m not &lt;em&gt;au fait&lt;/em&gt; with his stance or opinions, but would love to hear more...]]></description>
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I don&#8217;t care that Jens doped. The way he vehemently denies ever even <em>seeing</em> or <em>hearing </em>over his career just insults us, his fans. That is the point I&#8217;m making. Especially when all oh his contemporaries eventually admit that &#8220;everyone was doing it&#8221;, it was &#8220;the culture&#8221;&#8230; so how does Jens expect us to believe he was the exception and not only didn&#8217;t <em>do it, </em>but didn&#8217;t even <em>know about it? </em>And to so vigourously defend Armstrong really doesn&#8217;t help his credibility.</p>
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<p>Julian Dean, anyone?</p>
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<p>Does he toe the same line? I&#8217;m not <em>au fait</em> with his stance or opinions, but would love to hear more&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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I don&#039;t care that Jens doped. The way he vehemently denies ever even &lt;em&gt;seeing&lt;/em&gt; or &lt;em&gt;hearing &lt;/em&gt;over his career just insults us, his fans. That is the point I&#039;m making. Especially when all oh his contemporaries eventually admit that &quot;everyone was doing it&quot;, it was &quot;the culture&quot;... so how does Jens expect us to believe he was the exception and not only didn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;do it, &lt;/em&gt;but didn&#039;t even &lt;em&gt;know about it? &lt;/em&gt;And to so vigourously defend Armstrong really doesn&#039;t help his credibility.

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I don&#8217;t care that Jens doped. The way he vehemently denies ever even <em>seeing</em> or <em>hearing </em>over his career just insults us, his fans. That is the point I&#8217;m making. Especially when all oh his contemporaries eventually admit that &#8220;everyone was doing it&#8221;, it was &#8220;the culture&#8221;&#8230; so how does Jens expect us to believe he was the exception and not only didn&#8217;t <em>do it, </em>but didn&#8217;t even <em>know about it? </em>And to so vigourously defend Armstrong really doesn&#8217;t help his credibility.</p>
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