Funny, I’ve always thought the guy in the coat on the left was a journo based on the pad type thing in his left hand…but looks like he’s the one in the background offering some ‘advice’ here as well so might have been one of Coppi’s entourage.

“Yesterday Chris Froome illustrates why you should have never acted like a stroppy little prick last year when Brad was in trouble…”

dressing like shit.

Like what?

Italians are just “different” aren’t they? (And I mean that in a good way.) I mean, You’d never get a Scot or an English rider even attempting that level of sartorial daredevilishness and be able to carry it off.

Wait””what?

@frank

@Pedale.Forchetta

Comes down to style.

You talk about Italian style and you don’t offer a single picture of Coppi?

Italians are just “different” aren’t they? (And I mean that in a good way.) I mean, You’d never get a Scot or an English rider even attempting that level of sartorial daredevilishness and be able to carry it off.

@Pedale.Forchetta

Comes down to style.

You talk about Italian style and you don’t offer a single picture of Coppi?

Thanks! That is a small gear compared with what Kelly was talking about.

@Buck Rogers

And since this is a bit of a cycling history cite, he was shot while turkey hunting with his brother-in-law, not rabbit. But, totally splitting hairs there and I see your point. Sorry, is my OCD showing?

You’re totally splitting hares and talking turkey there mate…

Jesus, death by puns!  But I give you credit, they were very well played and I deserved that!

@starclimber

Wait, are we supposed to read your posts before snapping to conclusions?

@starclimber

Well, no, not if they’re posted here, for merckxsakes…get a grip, man!

 

Yeah, seriously, I always stop reading after about the second sentence of any post so you need to make your point up front or I am not responsible for anything I say about what you said after that point.

You really expect anyone to read more than two sentences???

Although, in your defense, I just reread your first two sentences and you never actually did saw anything about “letting” LeMan win.  Oh well, fuck it, how else are we supposed to gets things worked up around here!

Wait, are we supposed to read your posts before snapping to conclusions?

And since this is a bit of a cycling history cite, he was shot while turkey hunting with his brother-in-law, not rabbit. But, totally splitting hairs there and I see your point. Sorry, is my OCD showing?

You’re totally splitting hares and talking turkey there mate…

Comes down to style.

@Buck Rogers

@frank

@Buck Rogers

@PeakInTwoYears

@starclimber

Speaking of Hinault, I often wish he’d stuffed Lemond and taken his sixth tour. Everything would have changed, everything. Hinault would be The Prophet. Well, no, but closer to, and he was fucking awesome enough to warrant consideration. Lemond wouldn’t have been shot, and might have won 7 Tours clean, and COTHO would have known that no amount of perfect doping would have sufficed to better this unassailable tally. He probably would have kept eating cycling shit sandwiches, the perfect fate for him.

I say Lemond wouldn’t have been shot because losing to Hinault for the final time would have been akin to the butterfly’s wingbeat in Brazil. All history for him would have been altered. He wouldn’t have gone rabbit hunting because he’d have realized the degree of commitment necessary to truly be the best. He’d have turned himself into a cannibal badger to win, because the taste of betrayal, losing yet again despite the promise, would be something he could never again stomach.

Wow. This is counterfactual history at its best. Chapeau!

Great conjecture but I believe it has one major flaw: The assumption that Hinault LET LeMan win in ’86. No way, Brother. Hinault was attacking and trying to beat LeMan that entire tour and said as much himself.

Seconded. Hinault never let anyone win shit. But if you suspend disbelief…

Also, I think LeMond was too much about work/life balance to ever give up golfing etc.

Golfing and hunting. He loved/loves them both.

And since this is a bit of a cycling history cite, he was shot while turkey hunting with his brother-in-law, not rabbit. But, totally splitting hairs there and I see your point. Sorry, is my OCD showing?

No, turkey hunting has credibility, rabbit hunting does not.

Fact is, Italians can not like French riders.

@Nate

Beyond awesome:

More here: http://www.pavedmag.com/featured/5-reasons-why-he%E2%80%99s-greg-lemond-and-you%E2%80%99re-not/

BEST PHOTO EVER.

What is LeBoy holding there?  I’m guessing its a pair of tubulars he won as a prime.  Also, mad props to him for properly repping his sponsor/framebuilder, who is still in the biz after all these years.

Beyond awesome:

More here: http://www.pavedmag.com/featured/5-reasons-why-he%E2%80%99s-greg-lemond-and-you%E2%80%99re-not/

BEST PHOTO EVER.

Brother, that’s funny as FUCK!!!  Killed me!  Love the expression!

@frank

@Buck Rogers

@PeakInTwoYears

@starclimber

Speaking of Hinault, I often wish he’d stuffed Lemond and taken his sixth tour. Everything would have changed, everything. Hinault would be The Prophet. Well, no, but closer to, and he was fucking awesome enough to warrant consideration. Lemond wouldn’t have been shot, and might have won 7 Tours clean, and COTHO would have known that no amount of perfect doping would have sufficed to better this unassailable tally. He probably would have kept eating cycling shit sandwiches, the perfect fate for him.

I say Lemond wouldn’t have been shot because losing to Hinault for the final time would have been akin to the butterfly’s wingbeat in Brazil. All history for him would have been altered. He wouldn’t have gone rabbit hunting because he’d have realized the degree of commitment necessary to truly be the best. He’d have turned himself into a cannibal badger to win, because the taste of betrayal, losing yet again despite the promise, would be something he could never again stomach.

Wow. This is counterfactual history at its best. Chapeau!

Great conjecture but I believe it has one major flaw: The assumption that Hinault LET LeMan win in ’86. No way, Brother. Hinault was attacking and trying to beat LeMan that entire tour and said as much himself.

Seconded. Hinault never let anyone win shit. But if you suspend disbelief…

Also, I think LeMond was too much about work/life balance to ever give up golfing etc.

Golfing and hunting. He loved/loves them both.

And since this is a bit of a cycling history cite, he was shot while turkey hunting with his brother-in-law, not rabbit. But, totally splitting hairs there and I see your point. Sorry, is my OCD showing?

No, turkey hunting has credibility, rabbit hunting does not.

More here: http://www.pavedmag.com/featured/5-reasons-why-he%E2%80%99s-greg-lemond-and-you%E2%80%99re-not/

@Buck Rogers

@PeakInTwoYears

@starclimber

Speaking of Hinault, I often wish he’d stuffed Lemond and taken his sixth tour. Everything would have changed, everything. Hinault would be The Prophet. Well, no, but closer to, and he was fucking awesome enough to warrant consideration. Lemond wouldn’t have been shot, and might have won 7 Tours clean, and COTHO would have known that no amount of perfect doping would have sufficed to better this unassailable tally. He probably would have kept eating cycling shit sandwiches, the perfect fate for him.

I say Lemond wouldn’t have been shot because losing to Hinault for the final time would have been akin to the butterfly’s wingbeat in Brazil. All history for him would have been altered. He wouldn’t have gone rabbit hunting because he’d have realized the degree of commitment necessary to truly be the best. He’d have turned himself into a cannibal badger to win, because the taste of betrayal, losing yet again despite the promise, would be something he could never again stomach.

Wow. This is counterfactual history at its best. Chapeau!

Great conjecture but I believe it has one major flaw: The assumption that Hinault LET LeMan win in ’86. No way, Brother. Hinault was attacking and trying to beat LeMan that entire tour and said as much himself.

Seconded. Hinault never let anyone win shit. But if you suspend disbelief…

Also, I think LeMond was too much about work/life balance to ever give up golfing etc.

Golfing and hunting.  He loved/loves them both. 

And since this is a bit of a cycling history cite, he was shot while turkey hunting with his brother-in-law, not rabbit.  But, totally splitting hairs there and I see your point.  Sorry, is my OCD showing?

@PeakInTwoYears

@starclimber

Speaking of Hinault, I often wish he’d stuffed Lemond and taken his sixth tour. Everything would have changed, everything. Hinault would be The Prophet. Well, no, but closer to, and he was fucking awesome enough to warrant consideration. Lemond wouldn’t have been shot, and might have won 7 Tours clean, and COTHO would have known that no amount of perfect doping would have sufficed to better this unassailable tally. He probably would have kept eating cycling shit sandwiches, the perfect fate for him.

I say Lemond wouldn’t have been shot because losing to Hinault for the final time would have been akin to the butterfly’s wingbeat in Brazil. All history for him would have been altered. He wouldn’t have gone rabbit hunting because he’d have realized the degree of commitment necessary to truly be the best. He’d have turned himself into a cannibal badger to win, because the taste of betrayal, losing yet again despite the promise, would be something he could never again stomach.

Wow. This is counterfactual history at its best. Chapeau!

Great conjecture but I believe it has one major flaw: The assumption that Hinault LET LeMan win in ’86. No way, Brother. Hinault was attacking and trying to beat LeMan that entire tour and said as much himself.

Seconded. Hinault never let anyone win shit. But if you suspend disbelief…

Also, I think LeMond was too much about work/life balance to ever give up golfing etc.

@starclimber

Speaking of Hinault, I often wish he’d stuffed Lemond and taken his sixth tour. Everything would have changed, everything. Hinault would be The Prophet. Well, no, but closer to, and he was fucking awesome enough to warrant consideration. Lemond wouldn’t have been shot, and might have won 7 Tours clean, and COTHO would have known that no amount of perfect doping would have sufficed to better this unassailable tally. He probably would have kept eating cycling shit sandwiches, the perfect fate for him.

I say Lemond wouldn’t have been shot because losing to Hinault for the final time would have been akin to the butterfly’s wingbeat in Brazil. All history for him would have been altered. He wouldn’t have gone rabbit hunting because he’d have realized the degree of commitment necessary to truly be the best. He’d have turned himself into a cannibal badger to win, because the taste of betrayal, losing yet again despite the promise, would be something he could never again stomach.

Wow. This is counterfactual history at its best. Chapeau!

Great conjecture but I believe it has one major flaw:  The assumption that Hinault LET LeMan win in ’86.  No way, Brother.  Hinault was attacking and trying to beat LeMan that entire tour and said as much himself.

Froome does seem likable. His position does seem odd, though all I can see is that horrendous asymmetrical ring. Eck!

Yup, those Movistar shades suck. Helmets. Each helmet, even nice ones, only look good on certain guys. The S-Works used to always look great, now they look like mushrooms on some riders. Screw de-labeling wheels, I wouldn’t wear any ugly helmet.

Ha, office TTs! When younger my buddy moved into a new house, with a big as kitchen and a big as island. We’d time ourselves to see who could do ten laps the fastest. This is just one of the things we did when younger to have fun, which is one reason I shake my head when people proclaim they are/were bored. Fack, I’ve always, always wished I had more time, not had too much of it.

@piwakawaka

As for Ritchie Porte, what a fuckin bike rider he is I can’t believe he and Froome spent a all that time training in Tenerife, and he never said ” hey Chris that’s no way to ride a bike here watch this” even when he is completely fucked and they shelled him he still looked fantastic, settled down found his rhythm and rode right back to them, and was able to save Froomes ass once more to bring him and Contador back to the selection, have to feel for LTD missing that one as he has had a great Tour so far and worked hard for Mollema.
Awesome ITT coming up 900m of ascent And descent could be interesting.

+1 on Porte. When he fell off the back near the end I figured he was done for the day, and getting back to the lead both then and after the crash was some seriously inspired riding.

As for Froome – it seems to me that this is a race, not a ride in the park. If somebody runs into you from the side or behind I think you have room to complain, but if you’re following somebody who crashes himself that’s just how it is. Either Froome thinks he needs every second, in which case they are not unnecessary risks, or he doesn’t, in which case it’s his own damn fault for being right on the wheel of somebody riding dangerously.

On the style issue, I’m pretty sure the Contador should get a time bonus for looking so much better than Froome, especially since I picked him to win in the VSP.

Perhaps, for future VSP’s, the Keepers can write an algorithm that includes a measurement of looking good into the results. Certainly might inspire some interesting discussion.

As for Ritchie Porte, what a fuckin bike rider he is I can’t believe he and Froome spent a all that time training in Tenerife, and he never said ” hey Chris that’s no way to ride a bike here watch this” even when he is completely fucked and they shelled him he still looked fantastic, settled down found his rhythm and rode right back to them, and was able to save Froomes ass once more to bring him and Contador back to the selection, have to feel for LTD missing that one as he has had a great Tour so far and worked hard for Mollema.
Awesome ITT coming up 900m of ascent And descent could be interesting.

+1 on Porte. When he fell off the back near the end I figured he was done for the day, and getting back to the lead both then and after the crash was some seriously inspired riding.

As for Froome – it seems to me that this is a race, not a ride in the park. If somebody runs into you from the side or behind I think you have room to complain, but if you’re following somebody who crashes himself that’s just how it is. Either Froome thinks he needs every second, in which case they are not unnecessary risks, or he doesn’t, in which case it’s his own damn fault for being right on the wheel of somebody riding dangerously.

On the style issue, I’m pretty sure the Contador should get a time bonus for looking so much better than Froome, especially since I picked him to win in the VSP.

It would also seem that Froome isn’t the only person that was pissed off. It’s been reported that Bertie’s thumbs up to Quintana was a sarcastic suggestion that Quintana had either caused the crash or tried to take unfair advantage of it. Valverde apparently was unimpressed and gave Bertie a bit of a verbal slap.

“I just think at this stage of the race, he is obviously getting desperate. They are attacking on us on the descents and attacking us on the climbs. I just think it was careless to ride like that.”

WTF? 

As for Ritchie Porte, what a fuckin bike rider he is I can’t believe he and Froome spent a all that time training in Tenerife, and he never said ” hey Chris that’s no way to ride a bike here watch this” even when he is completely fucked and they shelled him he still looked fantastic, settled down found his rhythm and rode right back to them, and was able to save Froomes ass once more to bring him and Contador back to the selection, have to feel for LTD missing that one as he has had a great Tour so far and worked hard for Mollema.

Awesome ITT coming up 900m of ascent And descent could be interesting.

@Marcus

@frank I thought I was fucking sure that teams made at least some of their own leaders’ jerseys – I could be wrong but I am pretty sure the ASO didnt make this one, nor would they have made Rolland’s dotty knicks.

Not the knicks, but that’s also why in most cases the colors don’t match.

And yes, by the time the riders go to the post-tour crits, which is where Ricky V is in that abomination, they are no longer supplying the jerseys.

@Marcus

@frank btw, your statement, if a race is close, they go slower to avoid a crap skinsuit so they can go faster? Puhleeze.

That would kind of defeat the purpose wouldnt it?

Vaughters made this claim, yes. Not so much “went slower” as were happy not to take the jersey in a dead heat for the chance to ride in their own kit.

Wiggins rode last years time trial in an Addidas skinsuit with ASO approval rather than the Le Coq Sportif suit provided by the organisers. He rode the Dauphine in the standard issue. According to this article Wiggo suggested that he would rather not take the lead in order to wear his own skinsuit.

These discussions happen when the Tour isnt close. Wonder what the Tour would look like if the TV rights dollars were spread to the teams and they had a salary cap… 

At least in the COTHO years the green jersey was always alive on the Champs…

@Marcus

@Mikael Liddy teams supply their own yellow jerseys – just not the ones on the podium. That would be a Rapha jersey with Le Coq logo. Sleeves just appear rolled up.

Nope. Official Maillot Jaune has faux collar points this year. Compare collar, zipper and sleeves (raglan vs. standard).

Good evidence. Nicely done. I don’t even know why we’re having this discussion because obviously if Rapha made the jersey it would be exactly like his usual race jersey but yellow. Its an idiotic discussion, something we both excel and accel in.

@frank I thought I was fucking sure that teams made at least some of their own leaders’ jerseys – I could be wrong but I am pretty sure the ASO didnt make this one, nor would they have made Rolland’s dotty knicks.

Not the knicks, but that’s also why in most cases the colors don’t match.

And yes, by the time the riders go to the post-tour crits, which is where Ricky V is in that abomination, they are no longer supplying the jerseys.

@Marcus

@frank btw, your statement, if a race is close, they go slower to avoid a crap skinsuit so they can go faster? Puhleeze.

That would kind of defeat the purpose wouldnt it?

Vaughters made this claim, yes. Not so much “went slower” as were happy not to take the jersey in a dead heat for the chance to ride in their own kit.

Did someone mention bourbon? I’ll have a Four Roses, thanks very much

That would kind of defeat the purpose wouldnt it?

@Mikael Liddy teams supply their own yellow jerseys – just not the ones on the podium. That would be a Rapha jersey with Le Coq logo. Sleeves just appear rolled up.

I’ve never heard this, ever. In fact, I’ve heard the opposite, where if the race is close a rider will endeavor to stay OUT of the yellow jersey because the team skin suit is faster in a ITT. Allegedly, this was the case for Ryder at the Giro last year.

Also, I know the Tour supplies jerseys in all sizes pre-screened and ready for use. Also, riders like Cunego have had to resort to pinning their jerseys to make them fit because the race doesn’t supply a small enough jersey.

I have to say that Froome went down a couple of notches in The V-Stakes with his post-stage comments about Bertie’s crash. Taking too many uncalculated risks? FFS, risk management isn’t risk elimination! If Froom thinks others are descending recklessly, perhaps he should do some bloody risk management of his own and come off of the wheel. Then he can attack without remorse when the inevitable happens. Seems he’s getting a little bit precious in yellow.

And with that, I give you…

Froolum

Spot fucking on. He’s starting to sound like a Schleck. Perhaps the one taking uncalculated risks is the guy with a five-minute buffer chasing down a rider at a point in a stage where he poses little danger to his lead.

I have to say that Froome went down a couple of notches in The V-Stakes with his post-stage comments about Bertie’s crash. Taking too many uncalculated risks? FFS, risk management isn’t risk elimination! If Froom thinks others are descending recklessly, perhaps he should do some bloody risk management of his own and come off of the wheel. Then he can attack without remorse when the inevitable happens. Seems he’s getting a little bit precious in yellow.

And with that, I give you…

 

Froolum

I completely agree. If he falls off chasing Bertie, that is his problem, not Contador’s. Froomey should be riding conservatively on the descents with a 4 minute lead! He would be a total muppet to drop it on descent and hand the victory to Mollema.

He may be leading the TdF by 4 minutes, but he has still not won a GT yet. So he can’t play the “Patron” card and start pushing others around. If anything, the other riders seem to look up to Bertie, who has so many GT wins in the bank that he can afford to give a few away!

@frank

@DerHoggz

I’m disappointed that Froome lost the Jawbones this year.

Speaking from my own experience, I like my Jawbones in cooler weather, but I find them very hot and almost stifling in the heat due to the way they wrap around top and bottom. When its hot, I’ll ride my Radars, when its cooler, I’m all over the Jawbones.

Love how they look, though.

I think it all depends on who is wearing them. Hincapie looked ok in them – Froome looked like Lord Voldemort on holiday.

That’s what I found interesting, he had an impish, devilish look between the glasses and his facial structure.  Good to see he finally got a nice yellow pair.  All of sky is wearing yellow frames now, which they did last year when Wiggo was in yellow as well.  Marketing: it works.

@Mikael Liddy teams supply their own yellow jerseys – just not the ones on the podium. That would be a Rapha jersey with Le Coq logo. Sleeves just appear rolled up.

Nope.  Official Maillot Jaune has faux collar points this year.  Compare collar, zipper and sleeves (raglan vs. standard).

Speaking of Hinault, I often wish he’d stuffed Lemond and taken his sixth tour. Everything would have changed, everything. Hinault would be The Prophet. Well, no, but closer to, and he was fucking awesome enough to warrant consideration. Lemond wouldn’t have been shot, and might have won 7 Tours clean, and COTHO would have known that no amount of perfect doping would have sufficed to better this unassailable tally. He probably would have kept eating cycling shit sandwiches, the perfect fate for him.

I say Lemond wouldn’t have been shot because losing to Hinault for the final time would have been akin to the butterfly’s wingbeat in Brazil. All history for him would have been altered. He wouldn’t have gone rabbit hunting because he’d have realized the degree of commitment necessary to truly be the best. He’d have turned himself into a cannibal badger to win, because the taste of betrayal, losing yet again despite the promise, would be something he could never again stomach.

Wow.  This is counterfactual history at its best. Chapeau!

And with that, I give you…

Froolum

There are two reasons Michel Pollentier got kicked off the tour while winning the maillot jaune in 1978, he failed a drug test (or rather his crappy plastic tube/condom and bulb apparatus filled with someone else’s piss was discovered) and he looked like shite on a bike.

Evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpu9Q_FDKFI Notice, in contrast, how smooth Hinault is.

OR Robert Alban at 2:37 minutes in here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO6CE4EhrwA

Alban has an excuse – he’s all lanky. Pollentier was a midget.

Speaking of Hinault, I often wish he’d stuffed Lemond and taken his sixth tour. Everything would have changed, everything. Hinault would be the Prophet. Well, no, but closer to, and he was fucking awesome enough to warrant consideration. Lemond wouldn’t have been shot, and might have won 7 Tours clean, and COTHO would have known that no amount of perfect doping would have sufficed to better this unassailable tally. He probably would have kept eating cycling shit sandwiches, the perfect fate for him.

I say Lemond wouldn’t have been shot because losing to Hinault for the final time would have been akin to the butterfly’s wingbeat in Brazil. All history for him would have been altered. He wouldn’t have gone rabbit hunting because he’d have realized the degree of commitment necessary to truly be the best. He’d have turned himself into a cannibal badger to win, because the taste of betrayal, losing yet again despite the promise, would be something he could never again stomach.

@Buck Rogers: bless you, good sir, for the open season you just declared on the beer fridge. My thought processes have already cleared significantly.

As long as we’re on the subject, Movistar’s Bug Eyed Sprite Adidas shades are deplorable. Can’t anyone besides Oakley make a good-look pair of shades?

Sometimes, things that seem jarringly unaesthetic at first become curiously fascinating over time and then, finally evolve one’s aesthetic going forward. The Movistar shades are becoming so for me, although, admittedly, they like so many designs, look massive on tiny heads.

@Marcus

@frank

Reading between the lines, did you just ask for some soft porn with a Great Dane?

Boobs man, big boobs time. That’s what I heard.

Don’t start this again. We’ve been told off once.

However,,,wasn’t Brigitte Neilsen from Denmark?

@frank

Reading between the lines, did you just ask for some soft porn with a Great Dane?

Boobs man, big boobs time.  That’s what I heard.

Reading between the lines, did you just ask for some soft porn with a Great Dane?

@Buck Rogers

Jesus, did everyone give up alcohol at the same time around here? Have a drink, laugh a bit, and don’t get so worked up with your “invisible friends”. There’s bound to be awesome stuff to talk about tomorrow on the ITT! I need a bourbon personally.

Did you just give me a green light?

I assume that you interpret any action that doesn’t result in you having a gun pointed at you as getting a “green light”.

And did you just seriously post an animal picture? I mean, at least its a dog, but I thought you’d be happy sticking to soft porn and skinny Danes.

And before you get carried away, I said “Danes”, not “dames”.

Jesus, did everyone give up alcohol at the same time around here? Have a drink, laugh a bit, and don’t get so worked up with your “invisible friends”. There’s bound to be awesome stuff to talk about tomorrow on the ITT! I need a bourbon personally.

Seriously.

@Dinan

Mate, you’re a good guy but @meursault was teasing you in the vein that everyone here gets teased, and you’re taking it the wrong way. It was a lighthearted joke and you’re taking it way too seriously. No sweat. Have a drink if you drink, a hit if you smoke, or a wank if you’re a guy.

 I need a bourbon personally.

I’ll take one on the rocks, as long as you are pouring.

@Buck Rogers

Jesus, did everyone give up alcohol at the same time around here? Have a drink, laugh a bit, and don’t get so worked up with your “invisible friends”. There’s bound to be awesome stuff to talk about tomorrow on the ITT! I need a bourbon personally.

Did you just give me a green light?

@Dinan

You’re right, Frank, style IS what we are talking about. Simple because I care about function and dismiss style doesn’t mean I’m missing the point of the discussion.

Maybe, but you obviously miss the point of this website and more specifically exactly what a Velominatist is.

Eg: Go onto a Womans righs forum and espuse a chauvinistic point of view. You are completely within your rights to do so, but you’re gonna get flamed for it!

I think you’re the one that’s missing the point, Puffy. I shared my opinion and was blatantly told I was wrong. I found that in bad taste and said so. Plain and simple. You’re taking it and making it something else entirely.

Perhaps you’re right though. Given how much time is spent on appearance on this site, I might be better off with discussions that are more technical in nature elsewhere.

-Dinan

You’re right, Frank, style IS what we are talking about. Simple because I care about function and dismiss style doesn’t mean I’m missing the point of the discussion.

Maybe, but you obviously miss the point of this website and more specifically exactly what a Velominatist is.

Eg: Go onto a Womans righs forum and espuse a chauvinistic point of view. You are completely within your rights to do so, but you’re gonna get flamed for it!

@Dinan

I believe his tongue was planted firmly in cheek.

And, he’s right – you are wrong. Style is what 95% of what we’re talking about. Winning is one thing; winning with class and panache is a whole level above it.

The Prophet wouldn’t have been The Prophet were it not for his combination of winning, panache, class, and style.

You’re right, Frank, style IS what we are talking about. Simple because I care about function and dismiss style doesn’t mean I’m missing the point of the discussion. I’m participating but on the other side of it. I could care less about how things look and base my interest on how said thing performs.

I’m sure lots of people on this site have a great sense of style and have their kit and bike matched perfectly. I also bet they are shit riders that talk more than they pedal. Again, to each his own.

I just don’t think telling someone they’re wrong because he has differing point of view on subject is very gentlemanly. Sadly, that’s a part of the internet. Everyone is tough and right hidden behind anonymity and a keyboard….

-Dinan

@Chris

@Buck Rogers

Ahhhh, my cycling news live ticker has died and I cannot seem to get any live stream to open here at work! Painful!

Everybody who is nobody* are out in the break with about a 10 minute lead. They are not being pursued with any great urgency by the peloton. It is likely to remain that way.

*Schleck Jr wasn’t informed that he now a nobody and missed the break. He is likely to be dropped at some point.

Thanks! Cycling News ticker is working again. I had to resort to VeloSnooze’s ticker for a while and I swear that they mentioned the COTHO four times and had a video on during the 30 minutes that I watched on their website. They’re worse than Auntie Phil and Uncle Paul. What the FUCK is it with them and their Lance-love? Jesus, made me remember why I quit going to their site about two years ago.

A while back Jeff in Petro Metro mentioned that he knew a staffer at Velo, who told him it’s an editorial requirement to mention LA in every second breath. Take that as you will, second hand and old quotes etc…

if I remember correctly he’s wearing them again today in Tour Yellow instead of his usual virgin white. Is it possible Oakley did not have them on hand?

Evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpu9Q_FDKFI  Notice, in contrast, how smooth Hinault is.

OR Robert Alban at 2:37 minutes in here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO6CE4EhrwA

Alban has an excuse – he’s all lanky. Pollentier was a midget.

I’m struggling a bit finding a balance between contrast, overexposure and underexposure at the moment and I’m not sure that I’ve got to grips with the WB settings. Either that or the camera was not one of my best ebay acquisitions.

It was all so much easier when I was kid and B&W in a manual was the only option.

I could care less how ugly a bike or a rider’s style is perceived. As long as it gets the job done, that’s what matter. A win is a win no matter how it looks.

-Dinan

We’ll refer to those hearty riders as Quasimodo(s). He did triumph!

@DerHoggz

I’m disappointed that Froome lost the Jawbones this year.

Speaking from my own experience, I like my Jawbones in cooler weather, but I find them very hot and almost stifling in the heat due to the way they wrap around top and bottom. When its hot, I’ll ride my Radars, when its cooler, I’m all over the Jawbones.

Love how they look, though.

I think it all depends on who is wearing them.  Hincapie looked ok in them – Froome looked like Lord Voldemort on holiday.

I’m disappointed that Froome lost the Jawbones this year.

Speaking from my own experience, I like my Jawbones in cooler weather, but I find them very hot and almost stifling in the heat due to the way they wrap around top and bottom. When its hot, I’ll ride my Radars, when its cooler, I’m all over the Jawbones.

Love how they look, though.

I believe his tongue was planted firmly in cheek.

And, he’s right – you are wrong. Style is what 95% of what we’re talking about. Winning is one thing; winning with class and panache is a whole level above it.

The Prophet wouldn’t have been The Prophet were it not for his combination of winning, panache, class, and style.

@Dinan

I could care less how ugly a bike or a rider’s style is perceived. As long as it gets the job done, that’s what matter. A win is a win no matter how it looks.

-Dinan

I appreciate the sentiment, but no, you are incorrect.

We are all welcome to our own opinion. I wouldn’t, however, blatantly tell you you’re wrong. That’s kind of dickish.

Let me know if you’re ever around Asheville and we can discuss it out on the road…..

-Dinan

I could care less how ugly a bike or a rider’s style is perceived. As long as it gets the job done, that’s what matter. A win is a win no matter how it looks.

-Dinan

I appreciate the sentiment, but no, you are incorrect.

-Dinan

I think Cadelephant sat on Good Cadel.

Ha!  Poor Cuddles.  Definitely feeling his age and the Giro today.

@DerHoggz

@frank

@Xyverz

Aside from the unnecessarily long shorts, yes.

Which reminds me, he also has Toad Head. That’s a clear violation of the Three-Point System.

As long as we’re on the subject, Movistar’s Bug Eyed Sprite Adidas shades are deplorable. Can’t anyone besides Oakley make a good-look pair of shades?

I’m disappointed that Froome lost the Jawbones this year.

There is also an issue on the jersey where the yellow version does not have sleeves as long as the usualy Rapha version….this is leading to Rule #7 infractions all over the shop. Can someone have a word with him please?

Don’t agree Movistar looking good, those helmets lol.

@Buck Rogers

@Stefan

you care too much.

His name is Stefan. Stefan, HTFU.

HAHHAHAHA.

Hahaha, I was laughing my ass off at that one too.

@Stefan

you care too much.

His name is Stefan. Stefan, HTFU.

HAHHAHAHA.

@Buck Rogers

Ahhhh, my cycling news live ticker has died and I cannot seem to get any live stream to open here at work! Painful!

Everybody who is nobody* are out in the break with about a 10 minute lead. They are not being pursued with any great urgency by the peloton. It is likely to remain that way.

*Schleck Jr wasn’t informed that he now a nobody and missed the break. He is likely to be dropped at some point.

Thanks!  Cycling News ticker is working again.  I had to resort to VeloSnooze’s ticker for a while and I swear that they mentioned the COTHO four times and had a video on during the 30 minutes that I watched on their website.  They’re worse than Auntie Phil and Uncle Paul.  What the FUCK is it with them and their Lance-love?  Jesus, made me remember why I quit going to their site about two years ago.

Ahhhh, my cycling news live ticker has died and I cannot seem to get any live stream to open here at work! Painful!

Everybody who is nobody* are out in the break with about a 10 minute lead. They are not being pursued with any great urgency by the peloton. It is likely to remain that way.

*Schleck Jr wasn’t informed that he now a nobody and missed the break. He is likely to be dropped at some point.

@Pedale.Forchetta Those are some stunning photos.

I’m going to go away and cry now in the knowledge that it would only by pure chance that anything that good will ever come out of my camera.

Ditto.  Incredible.

Pedale.Forchetta, are you going to be at the Worlds this year?

I’m going to go away and cry now in the knowledge that it would only by pure chance that anything that good will ever come out of my camera.