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		By: seemunkee		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 12:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What would Andy do today?]]></description>
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		By: Deakus		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-148705&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@unversio&lt;/a&gt;

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&lt;div&gt;Imagine chasing after only two distinctive sets of tyre tracks in the snow. (photo above)

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Imagine doing it on this bike!

http://bikehugger.com/post/view/the-ugliest-eddy-merckx-ever]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-148705" rel="nofollow">@unversio</a></p>
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<div>Imagine chasing after only two distinctive sets of tyre tracks in the snow. (photo above)</p>
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<p>Imagine doing it on this bike!</p>
<p><a href="http://bikehugger.com/post/view/the-ugliest-eddy-merckx-ever" rel="nofollow ugc">http://bikehugger.com/post/view/the-ugliest-eddy-merckx-ever</a></p>
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		By: unversio		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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Imagine chasing after only two distinctive sets of tyre tracks in the snow. (photo above)

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		By: unversio		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-148699&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Forza Ciclismo&lt;/a&gt;

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Question of the day: Choose one ride for ultimate epicness, and why. 1) Stelvio 2) Mortirolo 3) Gavia. Discuss...

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Gavia. Hampsten and Bruekink and Delgado. Oakley and Vaseline.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/UNPULL/2012.11.11.23.28.09/delgaldo.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;Jersey and shorts only.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-148699" rel="nofollow">@Forza Ciclismo</a></p>
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Question of the day: Choose one ride for ultimate epicness, and why. 1) Stelvio 2) Mortirolo 3) Gavia. Discuss&#8230;</p>
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<p>Gavia. Hampsten and Bruekink and <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#Delgado">Delgado</a>. Oakley and Vaseline.</p>
<p><img src="http://velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/UNPULL/2012.11.11.23.28.09/delgaldo.jpg" alt="" />Jersey and shorts only.</p>
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		By: unversio		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[unversio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-18870&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@sgt&lt;/a&gt;

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&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-18858&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Stefan&lt;/a&gt;

Yep, no sense rehashing topics that have already been covered, especially in art.

Manet (1863)
&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/plugins/dm-albums/php/image.php?degrees=0&#038;scale=yes&#038;width=600&#038;height=700&#038;quality=85&#038;maintain_aspect=yes&#038;rounding=nearest&#038;image=/home/frankdstrack/velominati.com/content/Reader Galleries/21302652825/Manet_Edouard_-_Le_Djeuner_sur_lHerbe_(The_Picnic)_(1).jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;600&quot; height=&quot;474&quot; /&gt;

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Bow Wow Wow (1981)

&lt;img src=&quot;http://velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/UNPULL/2012.11.11.23.28.09/bow_wow_wow-400x400.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;Man am I bored.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-18870" rel="nofollow">@sgt</a></p>
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<a class="vm_anchor" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-18858" rel="nofollow">@Stefan</a></p>
<p>Yep, no sense rehashing topics that have already been covered, especially in art.</p>
<p>Manet (1863)<br />
<img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/plugins/dm-albums/php/image.php?degrees=0&amp;scale=yes&amp;width=600&amp;height=700&amp;quality=85&amp;maintain_aspect=yes&amp;rounding=nearest&amp;image=/home/frankdstrack/velominati.com/content/Reader Galleries/21302652825/Manet_Edouard_-_Le_Djeuner_sur_lHerbe_(The_Picnic)_(1).jpg" alt="" width="600" height="474" /></p>
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<p>Bow Wow Wow (1981)</p>
<p><img src="http://velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/UNPULL/2012.11.11.23.28.09/bow_wow_wow-400x400.jpg" alt="" />Man am I bored.</p>
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		By: unversio		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[unversio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-148699&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Forza Ciclismo&lt;/a&gt; Rather you mean &quot;Discuss amongst ya&#039;selves!&quot; -- Linda Richman.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-148699" rel="nofollow">@Forza Ciclismo</a> Rather you mean &#8220;Discuss amongst ya&#8217;selves!&#8221; &#8212; Linda Richman.</p>
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		By: Forza Ciclismo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 22:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Question of the day:  Choose one ride for ultimate epicness, and why.  1) Stelvio 2) Mortirolo 3) Gavia.  Discuss...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question of the day:  Choose one ride for ultimate epicness, and why.  1) Stelvio 2) Mortirolo 3) Gavia.  Discuss&#8230;</p>
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		By: Ron		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;But I was in a period of my life when I didn&#039;t like crashing due to mystery bike failures, so I went with the sure ride I knew Land Shark would build for me.&quot;

I am at that period in my life as well. I wonder, does one ever move beyond this period and transcend to a different state?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But I was in a period of my life when I didn&#8217;t like crashing due to mystery bike failures, so I went with the sure ride I knew Land Shark would build for me.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am at that period in my life as well. I wonder, does one ever move beyond this period and transcend to a different state?</p>
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		By: packfiller		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ok, so, not to self promote, but if anyone would like, I recorded a podcast with Andy a while back, and we talked a bit about this ride. You can find it at packfiller.com, in the &#039;previous posts&#039; section.

If this seems like self promotion bs, don&#039;t hesitate to tell me to STFU.

A great guy, and pretty damn humble for a guy with his palmares.

[Update from Frank: Podcast can be found &lt;a href=&quot;http://packfiller.libsyn.com/12-17-with-andy-hampsten&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, so, not to self promote, but if anyone would like, I recorded a podcast with Andy a while back, and we talked a bit about this ride. You can find it at packfiller.com, in the &#8216;previous posts&#8217; section.</p>
<p>If this seems like self promotion bs, don&#8217;t hesitate to tell me to STFU.</p>
<p>A great guy, and pretty damn humble for a guy with his palmares.</p>
<p>[Update from Frank: Podcast can be found <a href="http://packfiller.libsyn.com/12-17-with-andy-hampsten" rel="nofollow">here</a>.]</p>
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		By: il ciclista medio		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 01:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18984&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Buck Rogers &lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18944&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Telebyte &lt;/a&gt;
Yeah, BR, I&#039;m pretty sure you&#039;re right. 

1 Marc Madiot (FRA) 
2  Bruno Wojtinek (FRA) 
3  Sean Kelly (IRE)
4  Greg LeMond (USA)  
(thanks to Wikipedia)

Funnily enough there&#039;s someone on eBay selling the Paris-Roubaix 85 - 89 on DVD which I picked up a copy of. They&#039;re obvioulsy from old VHS tapes that have been copied from the original CBS sports broadcasts someone has had at home. Complete with some old ad&#039;s that have been missed through editing. Quality is a bit dodgy in parts but overall pretty good. 

Great epic race, don&#039;t know about Tesh&#039;s music though? 80&#039;s synth rock I&#039;d call it. Aunty Phil&#039;s dyed jet black hair is a scream.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-18984" class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" rel="nofollow">@Buck Rogers </a></p>
<p><a href="#comment-18944" class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" rel="nofollow">@Telebyte </a><br />
Yeah, BR, I&#8217;m pretty sure you&#8217;re right. </p>
<p>1 Marc Madiot (FRA)<br />
2  Bruno Wojtinek (FRA)<br />
3  Sean Kelly (IRE)<br />
4  Greg LeMond (USA)<br />
(thanks to Wikipedia)</p>
<p>Funnily enough there&#8217;s someone on eBay selling the Paris-Roubaix 85 &#8211; 89 on DVD which I picked up a copy of. They&#8217;re obvioulsy from old VHS tapes that have been copied from the original CBS sports broadcasts someone has had at home. Complete with some old ad&#8217;s that have been missed through editing. Quality is a bit dodgy in parts but overall pretty good. </p>
<p>Great epic race, don&#8217;t know about Tesh&#8217;s music though? 80&#8217;s synth rock I&#8217;d call it. Aunty Phil&#8217;s dyed jet black hair is a scream.</p>
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		By: Buck Rogers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buck Rogers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 01:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18978&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@mauibike &lt;/a&gt;
Wow!  I have never heard that, but that does not mean it isn&#039;t true.  Very hard to believe from all I have heard about Hampsten, though.  There&#039;s another classic (and classy) story about Hampsten after that Giro win:  He was getting on an airplane trip back to the US after winning the Giro and he sat down on the plane next to some older American woman.  She asks him what he had been doing in Italy and Hampsten supposedly told her that he had just been biking around the country and left it at that.  He never even mentioned that he had been in the Giro, say nothing about winning it.  Class act.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-18978" class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" rel="nofollow">@mauibike </a><br />
Wow!  I have never heard that, but that does not mean it isn&#8217;t true.  Very hard to believe from all I have heard about Hampsten, though.  There&#8217;s another classic (and classy) story about Hampsten after that Giro win:  He was getting on an airplane trip back to the US after winning the Giro and he sat down on the plane next to some older American woman.  She asks him what he had been doing in Italy and Hampsten supposedly told her that he had just been biking around the country and left it at that.  He never even mentioned that he had been in the Giro, say nothing about winning it.  Class act.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buck Rogers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 01:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-18944&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18944&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Telebyte &lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt;
Then there was the 1985 Paris-Roubaix when 7/8 of the field DNF&#039;d and riders were unrecognizably covered in filth at the finish. First win for Marc Madiot &#038; LeMond came second - only his lips are recognizably flesh...
Inimitably narrated by Phil Liggett in one of his first CBS broadcasts with John Tesh&#039;s (shockingly fitting) music. Video Here&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I do not think that Lemond was 2nd that year, pretty sure he was 4th.  Big George is the only American to podium at P-R, unless I am mistaken.  But I agree, that year was EPIC!  I believe that Jeff in Petro-Metro&#039;s avatar is Lemond from that year&#039;s P-R.]]></description>
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Then there was the 1985 Paris-Roubaix when 7/8 of the field DNF&#8217;d and riders were unrecognizably covered in filth at the finish. First win for Marc Madiot &amp; LeMond came second &#8211; only his lips are recognizably flesh&#8230;<br />
Inimitably narrated by Phil Liggett in one of his first CBS broadcasts with John Tesh&#8217;s (shockingly fitting) music. Video Here</p></blockquote>
<p>I do not think that Lemond was 2nd that year, pretty sure he was 4th.  Big George is the only American to podium at P-R, unless I am mistaken.  But I agree, that year was EPIC!  I believe that Jeff in Petro-Metro&#8217;s avatar is Lemond from that year&#8217;s P-R.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 23:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Epic ride and I hate to rain on the parade but, I think I heard Bob Roll once say that Andy did not split the Giro Winning money with his team that year. Can anyone confirm? I never looked at Andy the same, after hearing that info. Back in those days domestiques didn&#039;t make much of anything unless the team won a Tour.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Epic ride and I hate to rain on the parade but, I think I heard Bob Roll once say that Andy did not split the Giro Winning money with his team that year. Can anyone confirm? I never looked at Andy the same, after hearing that info. Back in those days domestiques didn&#8217;t make much of anything unless the team won a Tour.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oli Brooke-White]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Then there was the 1985 Paris-Roubaix when 7/8 of the field DNF&#039;d and riders were unrecognizably covered in filth at the finish.  First win for Marc Madiot &amp; LeMond came second - only his lips are recognizably flesh...

Inimitably narrated by Phil Liggett in one of his first CBS broadcasts with John Tesh&#039;s (shockingly fitting) music.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvAdfqo43s0&quot; title=&quot;&quot;  rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Video Here&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then there was the 1985 Paris-Roubaix when 7/8 of the field DNF&#8217;d and riders were unrecognizably covered in filth at the finish.  First win for Marc Madiot &#038; LeMond came second &#8211; only his lips are recognizably flesh&#8230;</p>
<p>Inimitably narrated by Phil Liggett in one of his first CBS broadcasts with John Tesh&#8217;s (shockingly fitting) music.  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvAdfqo43s0" title=""  rel="nofollow">Video Here</a></p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18908&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Marcus&lt;/a&gt;
I received the same advice, thus:  Do it wrong, but do it strong.  It&#039;s served me well.]]></description>
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I received the same advice, thus:  Do it wrong, but do it strong.  It&#8217;s served me well.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18911&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Alex&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot; &gt;BTW whatever happened to those cool Avocet computers? They made some good tires too in the day.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Aaaah...the Avocets!  I got an Avocet 30 for xmas one year...It stands out as the best xmas present I got during my childhood.  I carried the box around for a few weeks before installing it on my 70&#039;s Weissman-equipped Raleigh.  

http://www.avocet.com/instrpdfs/30_31eng.pdf]]></description>
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<blockquote cite=""><p>BTW whatever happened to those cool Avocet computers? They made some good tires too in the day.</p></blockquote>
<p>Aaaah&#8230;the Avocets!  I got an Avocet 30 for xmas one year&#8230;It stands out as the best xmas present I got during my childhood.  I carried the box around for a few weeks before installing it on my 70&#8217;s Weissman-equipped Raleigh.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.avocet.com/instrpdfs/30_31eng.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.avocet.com/instrpdfs/30_31eng.pdf</a></p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oli Brooke-White]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The best cycling is poetry, and poetry is art isn&#039;t it?]]></description>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Minion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[!!!!! Wicked, cheers Bretto. 

Every painting is a composition of individual brush strokes: The colour, position and orientation of each brush stroke are the result of conscious decisions made on the part of the artist: The result is the work of art. 

Each pedal stroke made by a skilled practitioner is the result of every piece of knowledge and ability they have. The series of decisions they make turn what they do into something else. It&#039;s called sublimation. There&#039;s nothing wrong with admiring the work of people who are good at what they do irrespective of the medium, and that&#039;s part of what makes this website great. Adrian.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>!!!!! Wicked, cheers Bretto. </p>
<p>Every painting is a composition of individual brush strokes: The colour, position and orientation of each brush stroke are the result of conscious decisions made on the part of the artist: The result is the work of art. </p>
<p>Each pedal stroke made by a skilled practitioner is the result of every piece of knowledge and ability they have. The series of decisions they make turn what they do into something else. It&#8217;s called sublimation. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with admiring the work of people who are good at what they do irrespective of the medium, and that&#8217;s part of what makes this website great. <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#Adrian">Adrian</a>.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 09:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] is paramount to leading a good and honest life.  It took some home truths from a poster in Frank&#8217;s Gavia post to jog our memories that old news is, well, just that; old news.  We need to come up with some new [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] is paramount to leading a good and honest life.  It took some home truths from a poster in Frank&#8217;s Gavia post to jog our memories that old news is, well, just that; old news.  We need to come up with some new [&#8230;]</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hawkeye]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 09:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18873&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Marko&lt;/a&gt;
Haaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaaaa!

Can someone with the know how attach a clip of where Harden the fuck up Stefan comes from please?  Absolutely hysterical Australian comedian.  Particularly obtuse reference on an international cycling website, but complete gold.

Nice one mate.]]></description>
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Haaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaaaa!</p>
<p>Can someone with the know how attach a clip of where Harden the fuck up Stefan comes from please?  Absolutely hysterical Australian comedian.  Particularly obtuse reference on an international cycling website, but complete gold.</p>
<p>Nice one mate.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 08:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 08:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah great post, its always nice to see this story told over and over so thanks. I do think that over time Breukink&#039;s great ride to win the stage has slipped well into the background but Andy&#039;s did define the Giro overall.

@frank 
What a great piece of kit that 7400 series Dura Ace was, I&#039;ve always wanted that ever since I first saw it.

@Jklash +1 !

BTW whatever happened to those cool Avocet computers? They made some good tires too in the day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah great post, its always nice to see this story told over and over so thanks. I do think that over time Breukink&#8217;s great ride to win the stage has slipped well into the background but Andy&#8217;s did define the Giro overall.</p>
<p>@frank<br />
What a great piece of kit that 7400 series Dura Ace was, I&#8217;ve always wanted that ever since I first saw it.</p>
<p>@Jklash +1 !</p>
<p>BTW whatever happened to those cool Avocet computers? They made some good tires too in the day.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stefan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 06:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-18870&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18870&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sgt&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt;
@Stefan
Yep, no sense rehashing topics that have already been covered, especially in art.
Manet (1863)

Monet (1865)

Cezanne (1906)

Picasso (1907)

Yep, no sense in that...
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

sgt, Manet and Monet are not my favorites, no doubt that they are great painters. from Cezanne or Picasso until today things get interesting. many deep, incredible work, not comparable with the plain &quot;art of pedal pushing&quot;. I love cycling, cycling had and has great exiting moments, nothing to with &quot;great work of art&quot;.

my feelings, no need to share them.

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<a href="#comment-18870" rel="nofollow">sgt</a>:<br />
@Stefan<br />
Yep, no sense rehashing topics that have already been covered, especially in art.<br />
Manet (1863)</p>
<p>Monet (1865)</p>
<p>Cezanne (1906)</p>
<p>Picasso (1907)</p>
<p>Yep, no sense in that&#8230;
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<p>sgt, Manet and Monet are not my favorites, no doubt that they are great painters. from Cezanne or Picasso until today things get interesting. many deep, incredible work, not comparable with the plain &#8220;art of pedal pushing&#8221;. I love cycling, cycling had and has great exiting moments, nothing to with &#8220;great work of art&#8221;.</p>
<p>my feelings, no need to share them.</p>
<p>best S.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 06:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18873&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Marko&lt;/a&gt;

looks like that some take things personal. no need to, live is too short and wonderful to get upset. 

best S.]]></description>
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<p>looks like that some take things personal. no need to, live is too short and wonderful to get upset. </p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 06:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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A venerable professional gave me two very good pieces of advice early in my working life:
1. Son, you may be wrong, but never let yourself be in doubt.
2. Eh young fella, we have dogs, let them bark (when he saw me sending a fax myself - remember them?).]]></description>
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A venerable professional gave me two very good pieces of advice early in my working life:<br />
1. Son, you may be wrong, but never let yourself be in doubt.<br />
2. Eh young fella, we have dogs, let them bark (when he saw me sending a fax myself &#8211; remember them?).</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[A fine introduction to a well conceived new series. I fully endorse the method, which brings to mind Krabbe&#039;s Anquetil water bottle anecdote and its encounter with &quot;reality.&quot;. The relevant point being that reality cannot hold the wheel of a confident assertion.]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 05:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 05:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great stuff, Frank! I was about to point out the Serotta/Slawta thing but I see it&#039;s all taken care of already, and I understand a lot more about your writing methods now thanks - I don&#039;t feel so inclined to pull you up on every little detail now I know you&#039;re just riffing off the top of your head most of the time. Top article, thanks.]]></description>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 04:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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Tou-fucking-che
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Tou-fucking-che<br />
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 04:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18895&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;il ciclista medio &lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE cite=#commentbody-18891&gt;
frank :Woops. Meant to use this picture for the Alexi jab, not the one I posted. &lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
Hey, did he accidentally put someone else&#039;s teeth in by mistake?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Phil Anderson&#039;s?]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-18895" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" rel="nofollow">il ciclista medio </a>:</p>
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frank :Woops. Meant to use this picture for the Alexi jab, not the one I posted. </p></blockquote>
<p>Hey, did he accidentally put someone else&#8217;s teeth in by mistake?</p></blockquote>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G'phant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 04:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18881&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jklash &lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt;
Not to be a pedant, but the bike was actually a John Slawta built Land Shark and not a Serotta. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Whaddya mean?  Of course that&#039;s pedantry.  Brilliant pedantry.  The sort of pedantry that is most welcome around here.  We rely on it (i) to add to our store of cycling knowledge and (ii) to counteract Frank&#039;s inability to distinguish (or even care that it is polite to distinguish) between fantasy and reality. Marvellous effort.]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-18881" rel="nofollow">Jklash </a>:<br />
Not to be a pedant, but the bike was actually a John Slawta built Land Shark and not a Serotta. </p></blockquote>
<p>Whaddya mean?  Of course that&#8217;s pedantry.  Brilliant pedantry.  The sort of pedantry that is most welcome around here.  We rely on it (i) to add to our store of cycling knowledge and (ii) to counteract Frank&#8217;s inability to distinguish (or even care that it is polite to distinguish) between fantasy and reality. Marvellous effort.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 03:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Toad head is made up by the amount of The V he is putting out in that picture.]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 03:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: il ciclista medio		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[il ciclista medio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 03:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-18891&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18891&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;frank &lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt;
Woops. Meant to use this picture for the Alexi jab, not the one I posted.
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Hey, did he accidentally put someone else&#039;s teeth in by mistake?]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-18891" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" rel="nofollow">frank </a>:<br />
Woops. Meant to use this picture for the Alexi jab, not the one I posted.
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<p>Hey, did he accidentally put someone else&#8217;s teeth in by mistake?</p>
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		By: frank		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 02:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Woops.  Meant to use this picture for the Alexi jab, not the one I posted.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://velominati.com/content/Reader Galleries/21302661796/Photo Apr 12 9 41 39 AM.jpg&quot;/&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woops.  Meant to use this picture for the Alexi jab, not the one I posted.</p>
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		By: The Potato Man		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A great story about Davis Phinney and his Serotta built by Dave Kirk, now of Kirk Frameworks:

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;Once a year, Davis Phinney, leader of the Coors Light professional cycling team, would come to the Serotta factory for a few days to boost the morale, get his hands dirty, go for a ride with the shop guys and visit the birthplace of his bikes.

The rides were a &#039;no one gets dropped&#039; type of ride and they were a good time to hang out on the bike and talk. We were heading back to the factory at a casual 15 mph when one of our builders, Richard, started taunting Davis. Richard called him names and told him that he didn&#039;t think that Davis could stay on his wheel. Richard then sprinted up the road ahead of the group and Davis just smiled and laughed. After Richard got a good 200 meters up the road Davis asked, &quot;Should I reel him in?&quot; We were approaching a corner that I knew was full of gravel and sand but before I could give a warning Davis flew out of the group and up the road. I&#039;ve ridden with some very strong riders but I&#039;ve never seen anyone accelerate that quickly before and he was going an easy 35 mph when he passed Richard and dove into that dirty corner. I thought for sure he&#039;d go down in the gravel and imagined the huge road rash he&#039;d have. Yet Davis counter-steered into the corner, laid the bike way over and two wheel drifted through the corner in complete control - gravel spitting out from under the tires. The look on Richard&#039;s face was priceless.

This was remarkable in two ways. The most obvious was that Davis had no trouble at all carving around the corner with so much junk in the road. He never backed off or stopped charging - he just railed it. The second was he did it on a bike I designed and built for him. Prior to racing Serottas he raced on &#039;crit&#039; bikes with silly steep angles with short front-centers. While racing in Europe Davis realized that a solid stage race bike was the bike of choice for both long and short events and we built him stage race bikes from then on. I can&#039;t tell you how cool it was to see my work put to that cornering test. It was rewarding to know that he trusted the bike so much. I&#039;ll never forget that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum/f22/&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Smoked Out&lt;/a&gt; section of the Velocipede Salon website.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great story about Davis Phinney and his Serotta built by Dave Kirk, now of Kirk Frameworks:</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>Once a year, Davis Phinney, leader of the Coors Light professional cycling team, would come to the Serotta factory for a few days to boost the morale, get his hands dirty, go for a ride with the shop guys and visit the birthplace of his bikes.</p>
<p>The rides were a &#8216;no one gets dropped&#8217; type of ride and they were a good time to hang out on the bike and talk. We were heading back to the factory at a casual 15 mph when one of our builders, Richard, started taunting Davis. Richard called him names and told him that he didn&#8217;t think that Davis could stay on his wheel. Richard then sprinted up the road ahead of the group and Davis just smiled and laughed. After Richard got a good 200 meters up the road Davis asked, &#8220;Should I reel him in?&#8221; We were approaching a corner that I knew was full of gravel and sand but before I could give a warning Davis flew out of the group and up the road. I&#8217;ve ridden with some very strong riders but I&#8217;ve never seen anyone accelerate that quickly before and he was going an easy 35 mph when he passed Richard and dove into that dirty corner. I thought for sure he&#8217;d go down in the gravel and imagined the huge road rash he&#8217;d have. Yet Davis counter-steered into the corner, laid the bike way over and two wheel drifted through the corner in complete control &#8211; gravel spitting out from under the tires. The look on Richard&#8217;s face was priceless.</p>
<p>This was remarkable in two ways. The most obvious was that Davis had no trouble at all carving around the corner with so much junk in the road. He never backed off or stopped charging &#8211; he just railed it. The second was he did it on a bike I designed and built for him. Prior to racing Serottas he raced on &#8216;crit&#8217; bikes with silly steep angles with short front-centers. While racing in Europe Davis realized that a solid stage race bike was the bike of choice for both long and short events and we built him stage race bikes from then on. I can&#8217;t tell you how cool it was to see my work put to that cornering test. It was rewarding to know that he trusted the bike so much. I&#8217;ll never forget that.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is from the <a href="http://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum/f22/" title="" rel="nofollow">Smoked Out</a> section of the Velocipede Salon website.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice one frank. 

A moment in (Cycling) time that has gone down in history to become part of legend. Like all good legends should, they get rehashed over time and with each re-telling, details start to blur and verisimilitude comes into its own.The beauty of this is that it then allows those re-telling or, in this day and age, re-blogging, the liberty to use ones own imagination or that part which is interesting to ones own benefit. This blog being case in point. Part of the reason I love coming to this site.
I also think that Verisimiltude lies at the heart of what you have achieved through these pages. I admire you and the other Keepers and contributors for that. The fact that it also starts with the V isn&#039;t a coincidence!
Great idea for future articles, look forward to them. As for art, to use that well worn cliche - &quot;don&#039;t know much about art, but I know what I like&quot; and I like cycling, ergo it&#039;s definitely art to me!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one frank. </p>
<p>A moment in (Cycling) time that has gone down in history to become part of legend. Like all good legends should, they get rehashed over time and with each re-telling, details start to blur and verisimilitude comes into its own.The beauty of this is that it then allows those re-telling or, in this day and age, re-blogging, the liberty to use ones own imagination or that part which is interesting to ones own benefit. This blog being case in point. Part of the reason I love coming to this site.<br />
I also think that Verisimiltude lies at the heart of what you have achieved through these pages. I admire you and the other Keepers and contributors for that. The fact that it also starts with the V isn&#8217;t a coincidence!<br />
Great idea for future articles, look forward to them. As for art, to use that well worn cliche &#8211; &#8220;don&#8217;t know much about art, but I know what I like&#8221; and I like cycling, ergo it&#8217;s definitely art to me!</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This post is Gold, Abolutely Gold.  Love the story and wouldn&#039;t want the facts to get in the way.  Facts do not make legends, fans make legends.]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18881&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Jklash&lt;/a&gt;

Excellent work.  Obviously you&#039;re a Velominatus. Indeed you&#039;re right:
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot; &gt;Though it wore the red, green and white livery and labels of official team sponsor Huffy, Hampsten&#039;s bike was actually a custom made rig crafted to his specifications by famed US builder John Slawta of Land Shark after a team-issued frame broke beneath him earlier that spring at Fleche-Wallone. That failure was eventually sourced back to an errant shipment by the builder&#039;s tubing supplier but still, Hampsten says his confidence was shaken and he wanted to go with something tried and true.

&quot;I felt bad about not using a Serotta [the company that actually built the team &#039;Huffys&#039;] and sticking with the team supplier,&quot; Hampsten told us. &quot;It wasn&#039;t Serotta&#039;s fault. But I was in a period of my life when I didn&#039;t like crashing due to mystery bike failures, so I went with the sure ride I knew Land Shark would build for me.

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<p>Excellent work.  Obviously you&#8217;re a Velominatus. Indeed you&#8217;re right:</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>Though it wore the red, green and white livery and labels of official team sponsor Huffy, Hampsten&#8217;s bike was actually a custom made rig crafted to his specifications by famed US builder John Slawta of Land Shark after a team-issued frame broke beneath him earlier that spring at Fleche-Wallone. That failure was eventually sourced back to an errant shipment by the builder&#8217;s tubing supplier but still, Hampsten says his confidence was shaken and he wanted to go with something tried and true.</p>
<p>&#8220;I felt bad about not using a Serotta [the company that actually built the team &#8216;Huffys&#8217;] and sticking with the team supplier,&#8221; Hampsten told us. &#8220;It wasn&#8217;t Serotta&#8217;s fault. But I was in a period of my life when I didn&#8217;t like crashing due to mystery bike failures, so I went with the sure ride I knew Land Shark would build for me.</p>
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		By: minion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-18881&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18881&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jklash &lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt;
Not to be a pedant, but the bike was actually a John Slawta built Land Shark and not a Serotta. The story can be found here:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/historic-pro-bike-andy-hampstens-1988-7-eleven-huffy-giro-ditalia&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;waiting expectantly for Oli to top that...)]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-18881" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" rel="nofollow">Jklash </a>:<br />
Not to be a pedant, but the bike was actually a John Slawta built Land Shark and not a Serotta. The story can be found here:<br />
<a href="http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/historic-pro-bike-andy-hampstens-1988-7-eleven-huffy-giro-ditalia" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/historic-pro-bike-andy-hampstens-1988-7-eleven-huffy-giro-ditalia</a></p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;waiting expectantly for Oli to top that&#8230;)</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not to be a pedant, but the bike was actually a John Slawta built Land Shark and not a Serotta.  The story can be found here:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/historic-pro-bike-andy-hampstens-1988-7-eleven-huffy-giro-ditalia]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to be a pedant, but the bike was actually a John Slawta built Land Shark and not a Serotta.  The story can be found here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/historic-pro-bike-andy-hampstens-1988-7-eleven-huffy-giro-ditalia" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/historic-pro-bike-andy-hampstens-1988-7-eleven-huffy-giro-ditalia</a></p>
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		By: RedRanger		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Epic. Lets hope Etna gives us a similar ride at this years Giro.]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 23:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18873&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Marko &lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt;
Ay, this is Stefan. His name is Stefan. Hey, Stefan, harden the fuck up.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Un-fucking-believably well played!  Totally lost some soda out the nose on that one.]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-18873" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" rel="nofollow">Marko </a>:<br />
Ay, this is Stefan. His name is Stefan. Hey, Stefan, harden the fuck up.</p></blockquote>
<p>Un-fucking-believably well played!  Totally lost some soda out the nose on that one.</p>
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		By: Buck Rogers		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 22:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-18857&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18857&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jeff in PetroMetro &lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt;
On my old Sears tool box, I still have a Cinelli sticker with Andy in pink diving into a corner on his time trial Huffy-bull horns, small front wheel, white shower cap, big Oakley Factory Pilots and all. And it looks like he&#039;s wearing a Dutch orange Swatch.
Picture may follow late tonight. Must leave for an appointment now. Dammit.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Great attention to detail.  Just checking out the TT start house pic and what is that watch that he is wearing?  So bizarre.  Pink band with orange face housing.  but then again, it WAS the &#039;80&#039;s!]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-18857" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" rel="nofollow">Jeff in PetroMetro </a>:<br />
On my old Sears tool box, I still have a Cinelli sticker with Andy in pink diving into a corner on his time trial Huffy-bull horns, small front wheel, white shower cap, big Oakley Factory Pilots and all. And it looks like he&#8217;s wearing a Dutch orange Swatch.<br />
Picture may follow late tonight. Must leave for an appointment now. Dammit.</p></blockquote>
<p>Great attention to detail.  Just checking out the TT start house pic and what is that watch that he is wearing?  So bizarre.  Pink band with orange face housing.  but then again, it WAS the &#8217;80&#8217;s!</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 22:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18858&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Stefan&lt;/a&gt;

Yep, no sense rehashing topics that have already been covered, especially in art.

Manet (1863)
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Monet (1865)
&lt;img src=&quot;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Monet_dejeunersurlherbe.jpg&quot;/&gt;

Cezanne (1906)
&lt;img src=&quot;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Paul_C%C3%A9zanne_047.jpg&quot;/&gt;

Picasso (1907)
&lt;img src=&quot;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Les_Demoiselles_d%27Avignon.jpg&quot;/&gt;

Yep, no sense in that...]]></description>
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<p>Yep, no sense rehashing topics that have already been covered, especially in art.</p>
<p>Manet (1863)<br />
<img src="http://velominati.com/content/Reader Galleries/21302652825/Manet_Edouard_-_Le_Djeuner_sur_lHerbe_(The_Picnic)_(1).jpg"/></p>
<p>Monet (1865)<br />
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Monet_dejeunersurlherbe.jpg"/></p>
<p>Cezanne (1906)<br />
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Paul_C%C3%A9zanne_047.jpg"/></p>
<p>Picasso (1907)<br />
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Les_Demoiselles_d%27Avignon.jpg"/></p>
<p>Yep, no sense in that&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 22:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18865&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;frank &lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt;
@Jeff in PetroMetroMy favorite shot of him is him standing in the start gate of the final TT, with Factory Pilots, just standing there like a badass - all focus. Must find.
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Frank:  It&#039;s on page 71 of Watson&#039;s &quot;Visons of Cycling&quot;.  I also love Watson&#039;s photoscript on the page about how Andy looks all arrogant and that it is so out of character for him.  Super photo!]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-18865" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" rel="nofollow">frank </a>:<br />
@Jeff in PetroMetroMy favorite shot of him is him standing in the start gate of the final TT, with Factory Pilots, just standing there like a badass &#8211; all focus. Must find.
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<p>Frank:  It&#8217;s on page 71 of Watson&#8217;s &#8220;Visons of Cycling&#8221;.  I also love Watson&#8217;s photoscript on the page about how Andy looks all arrogant and that it is so out of character for him.  Super photo!</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frank - great article, and looking forward to the continuation of this series... oh, and welcome back Adrian.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank &#8211; great article, and looking forward to the continuation of this series&#8230; oh, and welcome back <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#Adrian">Adrian</a>.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At the risk of upsetting Stefan - or is that Adrian- I remember reading an interview with Hampsten where he said the only reason he made it to the finish line was that his hotel was on the other side of it. If his hotel was in town before the line he would have packed and gone straight there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of upsetting Stefan &#8211; or is that <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#Adrian">Adrian</a>- I remember reading an interview with Hampsten where he said the only reason he made it to the finish line was that his hotel was on the other side of it. If his hotel was in town before the line he would have packed and gone straight there.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love that old Dura-Ace group.  Those brake levers were stunning, the shifters just the right size; the cam on the brakes art.

I also love how in the main shot, his bike looks white.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that old Dura-Ace group.  Those brake levers were stunning, the shifters just the right size; the cam on the brakes art.</p>
<p>I also love how in the main shot, his bike looks white.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18857&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Jeff in PetroMetro&lt;/a&gt;
My favorite shot of him is him standing in the start gate of the final TT, with Factory Pilots, just standing there like a badass - all focus.  Must find.

&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18848&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Pedale.Forchetta&lt;/a&gt;
Regarding Davis Phinney, what a stud, and not a small part of the reason I&#039;m so interested in watching Taylor&#039;s development.

Via &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/#!/taylorphinney&quot; title=&quot;&quot;  rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@TaylorPhinney&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s twitter feed: 
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot; &gt;I had to do 1600 watts to just barely beat @davisphinney in a town sprint today... He got me on 3 separate occasions. Comeback?&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-18857" class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" rel="nofollow">@Jeff in PetroMetro</a><br />
My favorite shot of him is him standing in the start gate of the final TT, with Factory Pilots, just standing there like a badass &#8211; all focus.  Must find.</p>
<p><a href="#comment-18848" class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" rel="nofollow">@Pedale.Forchetta</a><br />
Regarding Davis Phinney, what a stud, and not a small part of the reason I&#8217;m so interested in watching Taylor&#8217;s development.</p>
<p>Via <a href="http://twitter.com/#!/taylorphinney" title=""  rel="nofollow">@TaylorPhinney</a>&#8216;s twitter feed: </p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>I had to do 1600 watts to just barely beat @davisphinney in a town sprint today&#8230; He got me on 3 separate occasions. Comeback?</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18853&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Stefan&lt;/a&gt;
Thanks for you input, though I can&#039;t quite make sense of the last one - not sure what&#039;s you and whats others.

If these pages were to be filled with things that haven&#039;t been covered elsewhere, we wouldn&#039;t have very much to say, would we? I personally have never had an original idea in my life.

We just like to chat about whatever cycling-related topics come to mind, and for me - today - I stumbled upon this picture of Andy and felt like talking about it. The fact that others write about it every week as you say should only emphasize how remarkable that stage was.

BTW, if you&#039;re suggesting you only like riders who haven&#039;t doped, I sincerely hope you&#039;re not just basing your judgements on those who have failed a control.  I think anyone paying attention knows thats like measuring the composition of the ocean based on a teaspoon of water.

@all
In case you haven&#039;t checked them out, Wade&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://cyclingtipsblog.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cycling Tips Blog&lt;/a&gt; is about the best one out there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-18853" class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" rel="nofollow">@Stefan</a><br />
Thanks for you input, though I can&#8217;t quite make sense of the last one &#8211; not sure what&#8217;s you and whats others.</p>
<p>If these pages were to be filled with things that haven&#8217;t been covered elsewhere, we wouldn&#8217;t have very much to say, would we? I personally have never had an original idea in my life.</p>
<p>We just like to chat about whatever cycling-related topics come to mind, and for me &#8211; today &#8211; I stumbled upon this picture of Andy and felt like talking about it. The fact that others write about it every week as you say should only emphasize how remarkable that stage was.</p>
<p>BTW, if you&#8217;re suggesting you only like riders who haven&#8217;t doped, I sincerely hope you&#8217;re not just basing your judgements on those who have failed a control.  I think anyone paying attention knows thats like measuring the composition of the ocean based on a teaspoon of water.</p>
<p>@all<br />
In case you haven&#8217;t checked them out, Wade&#8217;s <a href="http://cyclingtipsblog.com/" rel="nofollow">Cycling Tips Blog</a> is about the best one out there.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stefan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[giacomo2k2,

&quot;&quot;Cycling is more than the act of pushing pedals&quot;&quot;  right, well said, I agree. 


Cycling Tips Blogg Facebook Title: Panache is having a crack at a time where no one else has the balls to do so. Stupidity is making a move that makes no sense. Why do so many people think that Hushovd rode with no &quot;panache&quot; at Paris-Roubaix?

somebody says:

&quot;&quot;&quot;Eddy would have done what he did best, take more drugs and help kill the sports reputation. Please lets not bring the cheating dopers into and otherwise spectacular 2wks of racing. (Eddy, Pantini, Miguel, Festina, Floyd, Armstrong pre-cancer). I personally will never look at their achievemnts as herioc or legendary, just another dog act tarnishing a wonderful sport&quot;&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>giacomo2k2,</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;Cycling is more than the act of pushing pedals&#8221;&#8221;  right, well said, I agree. </p>
<p>Cycling Tips Blogg Facebook Title: Panache is having a crack at a time where no one else has the balls to do so. Stupidity is making a move that makes no sense. Why do so many people think that Hushovd rode with no &#8220;panache&#8221; at Paris-Roubaix?</p>
<p>somebody says:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;&#8221;Eddy would have done what he did best, take more drugs and help kill the sports reputation. Please lets not bring the cheating dopers into and otherwise spectacular 2wks of racing. (Eddy, Pantini, Miguel, Festina, Floyd, Armstrong pre-cancer). I personally will never look at their achievemnts as herioc or legendary, just another dog act tarnishing a wonderful sport&#8221;&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Stefan
Cycling is more than the act of pushing pedals (though as a meditation it is an art in itself). It&#039;s about pushing through barriers, about connecting people and places, about surmounting language and cultural barriers, and occasionally, every decade or 2, it&#039;s about looking good in pink, or white, or whatever. Accomplishments like that of Andy&#039;s or Johan&#039;s, or countless other luminaries are indeed special and seldom, and worthy of praise. Watching them compete is watching art in motion, something few of us may ever experience. 

&quot;Something cycling cannot reach&quot;. May Merckx have mercy on you. Such blasphemy...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stefan<br />
Cycling is more than the act of pushing pedals (though as a meditation it is an art in itself). It&#8217;s about pushing through barriers, about connecting people and places, about surmounting language and cultural barriers, and occasionally, every decade or 2, it&#8217;s about looking good in pink, or white, or whatever. Accomplishments like that of Andy&#8217;s or Johan&#8217;s, or countless other luminaries are indeed special and seldom, and worthy of praise. Watching them compete is watching art in motion, something few of us may ever experience. </p>
<p>&#8220;Something cycling cannot reach&#8221;. May Merckx have mercy on you. Such blasphemy&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tomb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18857&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Jeff in PetroMetro&lt;/a&gt;
I had that sticker too. On the binder i kept my training log in. Two divorces and 20 years later who knows where it is. 

Can&#039;t wait to see a pic. Maybe we can make some new ones!]]></description>
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I had that sticker too. On the binder i kept my training log in. Two divorces and 20 years later who knows where it is. </p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait to see a pic. Maybe we can make some new ones!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stefan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[G&#039;phant, excuse me ;) &quot;great work of art&quot; are seldom and very special, something cycling can not reach. just one name/example from many: &quot;guernica&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G&#8217;phant, excuse me ;) &#8220;great work of art&#8221; are seldom and very special, something cycling can not reach. just one name/example from many: &#8220;guernica&#8221;.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On my old Sears tool box, I still have a Cinelli sticker with Andy in pink diving into a corner on his time trial Huffy--bull horns, small front wheel, white shower cap, big Oakley Factory Pilots and all.  And it looks like he&#039;s wearing a Dutch orange Swatch.

Picture may follow late tonight.  Must leave for an appointment now.  Dammit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my old Sears tool box, I still have a Cinelli sticker with Andy in pink diving into a corner on his time trial Huffy&#8211;bull horns, small front wheel, white shower cap, big Oakley Factory Pilots and all.  And it looks like he&#8217;s wearing a Dutch orange Swatch.</p>
<p>Picture may follow late tonight.  Must leave for an appointment now.  Dammit.</p>
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		By: G'phant		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18853&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Stefan&lt;/a&gt;
True enough. But like great works of art, there is always more that can be said. And some of it is occasionally worth saying. Besides which, the other sites are not THIS site!]]></description>
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True enough. But like great works of art, there is always more that can be said. And some of it is occasionally worth saying. Besides which, the other sites are not THIS site!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stefan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[yes, very exiting. but it becomes less exiting when every two month the cycling blogs over the world come with the GAVIA 1988 story. best S.]]></description>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G'phant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chapeau. This series will be a fantastic addition to the archives. And I can think of few better ones to start with. (I can, though, think of a few which could follow ...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chapeau. This series will be a fantastic addition to the archives. And I can think of few better ones to start with. (I can, though, think of a few which could follow &#8230;)</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18842&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Buck Rogers&lt;/a&gt;
Andy and Davis Phinney are part of my cycling culture.]]></description>
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Andy and Davis Phinney are part of my cycling culture.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Andy on the Gavia is my favorite moment in cycling.]]></description>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buck Rogers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-18838&quot; class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Pedale.Forchetta &lt;/a&gt;
That day and the day he won on Stage 14, Alpe d&#039;Huez, during the &#039;92 tdf.  Just amazing rides.]]></description>
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That day and the day he won on Stage 14, Alpe d&#8217;Huez, during the &#8217;92 tdf.  Just amazing rides.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bobke describes this in &quot;The Day The Hardmen Cried&quot; in _BobkeII_. His firsthand account when invited to speak is inspiring, hilarious and frightening all at the same time. Apparently the buildup of snow on his head chilled the visual nerves to his &quot;brain&quot; (quotes intentional) and he arrived at the finish blind and in shock from hypothermia. This after stopping on the descent and turning to go back up hill to try to generate some heat to warm up. Guess the team tossed him in a hot shower at the hotel to bring him bcak to life. He claims he was stripping off the cold gear while the podium was being presented, and this is the only time he&#039;s been naked in front of a podium girl.

And he said seeing Andy in pink was all worth it. A-Merckx.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobke describes this in &#8220;The Day The Hardmen Cried&#8221; in _BobkeII_. His firsthand account when invited to speak is inspiring, hilarious and frightening all at the same time. Apparently the buildup of snow on his head chilled the visual nerves to his &#8220;brain&#8221; (quotes intentional) and he arrived at the finish blind and in shock from hypothermia. This after stopping on the descent and turning to go back up hill to try to generate some heat to warm up. Guess the team tossed him in a hot shower at the hotel to bring him bcak to life. He claims he was stripping off the cold gear while the podium was being presented, and this is the only time he&#8217;s been naked in front of a podium girl.</p>
<p>And he said seeing Andy in pink was all worth it. <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#A-Merckx">A-Merckx</a>.</p>
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		By: Pedale.Forchetta		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pedale.Forchetta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We all loved him THAT day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all loved him THAT day.</p>
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