The Keepers

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Cycling is a mighty sport with a rich and complex history. Every company, racer, piece of kit, and component has a legend, a story behind it; in many cases it also has a personal and nostalgic connection to our lives.  While this particular sport is steeped in tradition, it is also fiercely modern, a fact that serves only to deepen its complexity.

All these factors combine to provide an unique atmosphere and breeds devoted and loyal disciples of our great sport. We are of a peculiar nature; we seek out the highest mountains and the roughest roads on which to worship at the altar of the Man with the Hammer. Our legs are what propel us; our minds are what drive us. We refer to our shaved legs in the third person – the legs – and speak of distance in kilometres and measure sizes in centimetres regardless of what country we are in.  We adhere strictly to the Canon of Cycling’s Etiquette: The Rules.

A Velominatus is a disciple of the highest order. We spend our days poring over the very essence of what makes ours such a special sport and how that essence fits into Cycling’s colorful fabric.  This is the Velominati’s raison d’être. This is where the Velominati can be ourselves. This is our agony – our badge of honor – our sin.

I have a unique way of looking at bicycles. A good bicycle and it’s components are beautiful things to me. I’m not just talking about appearance, but also how the frame and components show the dreams of those who made them.

– Gianni Bugno, Hardman and Italian cycling legend

Perhaps we are too wrapped up in the past, but the Velominati don’t believe that to be the case.  After all, the greatest lessons can be learned from the past and those lessons can then be applied to the present and may then allow us to more fully experience the future.

The Keepers:

The Community:

Velominati.com is less about the articles and more about the conversation. Those of you who read more and poster more, become an integral part of the discussion and help carry the momentum forward. There are several levels of Velominatus*:

Level 4 Velominatus: The casual observer and occasional poster.

Level 3 Velominatus: The regular reader and casual poster.

Level 2 Velominatus: The devoted reader and regular poster.

Level 1 Velominatus: The most committed of reader and poster.

Gray, Black, and Orange Order Velominatus: Once having passed Level 1, the inducted among the Order wear three color badges, based on their rank.

Conduct:

We strive to foster an open, fun, critical, and censure-free environment. Any criticism of our writing, spelling, grammar, or intelligence is welcome and nothing said will ever get you suspended from the site. That said, the code of conduct is governed by Rule #43 and the Piti Principle. Members consistently exhibiting behavior that falls outside these parameters will be warned to check themselves; should warnings go unheeded, we may elect to issue a suspension. The first offense will result in a one-week suspension, the second in a two week suspension, and the third in a three week suspension. A fourth offense will result in a lifetime ban.

Velominati reserves the right to edit posts with the express interest to preserve the spirit of the conversation and the community. Regarding posts that address a grammatical or typographical error, Velominati may elect to take their input, correct the error in the articles where appropriate, and editing posts that point them out. This editorial action is not to serve as a censure entity, but to preserve the spirit of the conversation. That said, we endeavor to only edit those posts that point out a minor issue and only in the event that we make the edit before the post has yielded further discussion. Furthermore, when possible, we will strive to acknowledge said poster for their correction.

Want to contribute a story to the Velominati? Tell us why.

*Levels are calculated based on the previous year’s activity.

  1. @frank

    Hi Frank, but when I press order it ask me to choose a shipping option…

  2. @Karel Delvoye

    @frank

    Hi Frank, but when I press order it ask me to choose a shipping option…

    It’s solved, when you click on calculate then the shipping option error showed up.

  3. Great to see the kit ordering window open but having an issue completing an order. Checkout link to Paypal produces Error 402: Unable to complete order. Please try again. Several attempts produce same results. All mandatory info boxes filled. This seems to be the only payment option. Any suggestions please?

  4. @JohnB

    Great to see the kit ordering window open but having an issue completing an order. Checkout link to Paypal produces Error 402: Unable to complete order. Please try again. Several attempts produce same results. All mandatory info boxes filled. This seems to be the only payment option. Any suggestions please?

    Error 402 on both Mac and PC

  5. @frank I’m getting a security violation when I try to login this morning warning that the login is potentially being intercepted as the security certificate is from a different site. I’ve tried from multiple computers with the same. Do we have a problem on the site?

  6. @Teocalli, @Frank: I also have issues trying to log in. Message I get reads:

    Failed to establish a secure connection to

    https://www.velominati.com

    This proxy and the remote host failed to negotiate mutually acceptable security settings for handling your request. It is possible that the remote host does not support secure connections, or the proxy is not satisfied with the host security credentials.

  7. @Teocalli, @KogaLover

    Installing a certificate and there was a bit of a cockup. Should be fine now. Thanks.

    @JohnB

    I’m baffled. A screenshot would be most helpful if you can furnish one!

  8. @frank

    @Teocalli, @KogaLover

    Installing a certificate and there was a bit of a cockup. Should be fine now. Thanks.

    @JohnB

    I’m baffled. A screenshot would be most helpful if you can furnish one!

    Confirmed OK now.

  9. @frank

    @Teocalli, @KogaLover

    Installing a certificate and there was a bit of a cockup. Should be fine now. Thanks.

    @JohnB

    I’m baffled. A screenshot would be most helpful if you can furnish one!

    A blip? 24hrs later I tried again and success. Order 33536. Don’t lose it!

  10. Very cool little video by Collectif Parlee:

    Collectif Parlee – Au pays du huitième jour from Thomas Rinfret on Vimeo.

  11. @The Packmonger

    Welcome to Sweden. Today I did 3.5 hours in + 3 degrees and winds of 10 m/ s

  12. @William Perreault

    Perfect , spot on.

  13. Hi, my name’s Nat and I’m a long time lurker.

    While out riding this afternoon, in a New Jersey kindly sent by a charity ride organiser, I suddenly realised a potential new rule.

    Charity ride jerseys should NEVER be race cut.

    Eagerly awaiting your reply, and keep up the critical work.

    In cycling

    Nat Bromhead

  14. Had a really fun chat with Patrick Bulger the other day on his Packfiller Podcast:

    http://packfiller.com/2016/02/15/frank-strack-velominati-com/

  15. @Nat Bromhead

    Hi, my name’s Nat and I’m a long time lurker.

    While out riding this afternoon, in a New Jersey kindly sent by a charity ride organiser, I suddenly realised a potential new rule.

    Charity ride jerseys should NEVER be race cut.

    Eagerly awaiting your reply, and keep up the critical work.

    In cycling

    Nat Bromhead

    Nat, welcome from the shadows! I’m confused. I tjought you were riding in New Jersey. Race cut? Are you serious? All the charity jerseys I’ve ever seen are, at best “club fit.” Your confusion may stem from the fact that many of the riders who wear such apparel are often rather generously insulated, thus rendering what in reality has all the tailoring of a bin liner, into a garment whose seams are under more stress than the San Andreas fault.

    And this is before the forum opens on the “design” of said garments. In general, they can be described by the following words: garish, tasteless, lurid, offensive and “wacky.”

    Keeping up the critical (in the interpretation of “highly important, vital to the nation’s wellbeing” sense, rather than the “that sucks dude!”) work.

    Yours truly,

    Wiscot

  16. @wiscot

    You may have a point there whereby “cut” applies to the jersey race cut, club cut, but “fit” applies to the individual, race fit, club fit, couch fit. Hence race cut and race fit is a good combination, race cut and club fit could be marginal and race cut and couch fit will be stretching things in all senses of the words.

  17. @frank

    Had a really fun chat with Patrick Bulger the other day on his Packfiller Podcast:

    http://packfiller.com/2016/02/15/frank-strack-velominati-com/

    Actually listened to the whole thing, whilst downing a local IPA.

    Was entertaining, well played.

  18. Great stuff, Frank. I’m not sure what you were discussing but I found your dulcet tones very soothing to listen to.

  19. @frank

    Had a really fun chat with Patrick Bulger the other day on his Packfiller Podcast:

    http://packfiller.com/2016/02/15/frank-strack-velominati-com/

    Really like the part about those who’ve been around cycling the longest being the least elitist and dickish. As much as we abide and have very serious standards, which are both self and group imposed, I doubt any of us would be truly shitty to someone new and coming up.

    Nothing wrong with codes, but definitely something wrong with discouraging new folks. And the longer you’ve been at something, right, the less you care and more secure you are. It’s the newcomers putting style before substance who are uptight and defensive.

  20. @Frank – What’s the word on ship dates for the V-Kit order that closed in Jan. Last message I got said late March. Any update? Thanks.

  21. Joining the observers of the rules. Today is a Rule #9 day.

  22. Bit of a heads up for you all, I’ve just launched a new website, not in opposition to The V, so it’d be great if you all went and had a look, liked us on the ‘book and ‘gram, and maybe click on a few ads too!

    It’s called ChainSlap and it has a bit of everything, most forms of cycling with an emphasis on mtb I suppose, also music, beer, coffee and some other shit that you might not see on other sites, hopefully!

  23. @brett

    Bit of a heads up for you all, I’ve just launched a new website, not in opposition to The V, so it’d be great if you all went and had a look, liked us on the ‘book and ‘gram, and maybe click on a few ads too!

    It’s called ChainSlap and it has a bit of everything, most forms of cycling with an emphasis on mtb I suppose, also music, beer, coffee and some other shit that you might not see on other sites, hopefully!

    Consider it done ! Nice work

  24. @brett

    saw some of the tweets linking to Chainslap & wondered if there was a connection. Shall have a gander.

  25. @brett

    Is that where you hide with these?

    http://chainslapmag.com/2016/05/stealth-sack/

    Just what you need, can of beer, hammer 50 Km of trails, stop, pull ring,……….oh yeh, maybe not such a great idea after all………

  26. @Teocalli

    The final descent always goes better after a beer!

  27. @brett

    Bit of a heads up for you all, I’ve just launched a new website, not in opposition to The V, so it’d be great if you all went and had a look, liked us on the ‘book and ‘gram, and maybe click on a few ads too!

    It’s called ChainSlap and it has a bit of everything, most forms of cycling with an emphasis on mtb I suppose, also music, beer, coffee and some other shit that you might not see on other sites, hopefully!

    Ha! The Gubernut here in the Great US of A has you figured out, Brett.

    Your new website is blocked on all Department of Defense computers!!!

  28. @Buck Rogers

    @brett

    Bit of a heads up for you all, I’ve just launched a new website, not in opposition to The V, so it’d be great if you all went and had a look, liked us on the ‘book and ‘gram, and maybe click on a few ads too!

    It’s called ChainSlap and it has a bit of everything, most forms of cycling with an emphasis on mtb I suppose, also music, beer, coffee and some other shit that you might not see on other sites, hopefully!

    Ha! The Gubernut here in the Great US of A has you figured out, Brett.

    Your new website is blocked on all Department of Defense computers!!!

    Fuckin Rothschilds are onto me!

  29. Enjoying a visit to a Keeper’s homeland.

  30. Cool little bit here on Parker Dusseau where they’re offering a copy of The Rules with purchases; had a chance to chat up the owner a bit and they apparently had a mic running!

    http://www.parkerdusseau.com/blogs/journal/rule-94-wear-parker-dusseau-and-receive-a-free-book

  31. Dear keepers et al,

    How about a food & drink section?

    My local supermarket just started stocking this recovery ale, and I wanted to share this important information with you all, however I was unsure where to post it.

    You’re welcome.

  32. i’ve made a couple of posts already, but, in keeping with Rule #19, what’s the appropriate way to introduce oneself here?

  33. @Cary

    i’ve made a couple of posts already, but, in keeping with Rule #19, what’s the appropriate way to introduce oneself here?

    That works! Welcome.

    Another way is to post a pic of #1 having studied Rule #26 (or just deny knowledge of Rule #26) with a short summary of your riding locale.

  34. @Teocalli

    @Cary

    i’ve made a couple of posts already, but, in keeping with Rule #19, what’s the appropriate way to introduce oneself here?

    That works! Welcome.

    Another way is to post a pic of #1 having studied Rule #26 (or just deny knowledge of Rule #26) with a short summary of your riding locale.

    cool. where should i post it? i am quite new to this site as a commentor, obviously, though i have read extensively.

  35. @Cary

    Sorry stupid me. Under The Bikes usually.

  36. common sense should have played a role in figuring this out for myself. sorry, and thanks!

  37. Did @frank take up a new job?

    http://www.outsideonline.com/2108066/emerald-citys-velo-thieves-have-problem-bike-batman

    “Bike Batman was just an average-seeming guy in Seattle who liked to ride his bicycles. He had no inkling to become a vigilante who would face off against criminals while armed with little more than a smartphone, some spare time, and a pair of brass balls. But sometimes in life, the cape finds you.”

  38. My seatpost is thisssssssss long!

    Alright folks! Time for a bit of “It’s a Wonderful Velominati Life”.

    Frahnk, through no fault of his own, is in the lurch for a bunch of kit money at a bit of a rough time. He is actually selling off his bikes trying to raise the funds to make it right (kind of like cashing in his life insurance money, eh???).

    Somehow the Mr Potter of this world has stolen his $8,000 bucks (or whatever the fuck the amount was).

    So I propose that anyone that can, donate a bit of money to the site. And this is not me trying to raise money for my kit, this is just trying to help out Frahnk and the site.

    Obviously I have no idea of how to do this but if someone can set up one of those internet donation help sites, I’d love to contribute!

    Thanks all and Merckxy Christmas!!!

  39. Please advise: I registered on the site Monday morning and created my first post on my android device. Although the ‘publishing post’ box came up I could not see it. I then tried posting twice again with the same results.

    I then thought I’d try posting from a PC and was surprised to see my first post on the site (I fear there are several others possibly in the queue now).

    Is there a delay associated with ‘posting’. Thanks

  40. @Buck Rogers

    My seatpost is thisssssssss long!

    Alright folks! Time for a bit of “It’s a Wonderful Velominati Life”.

    Frahnk, through no fault of his own, is in the lurch for a bunch of kit money at a bit of a rough time. He is actually selling off his bikes trying to raise the funds to make it right (kind of like cashing in his life insurance money, eh???).

    Somehow the Mr Potter of this world has stolen his $8,000 bucks (or whatever the fuck the amount was).

    So I propose that anyone that can, donate a bit of money to the site. And this is not me trying to raise money for my kit, this is just trying to help out Frahnk and the site.

    Obviously I have no idea of how to do this but if someone can set up one of those internet donation help sites, I’d love to contribute!

    Thanks all and Merckxy Christmas!!!

    Buck, is this true or just a little holiday fun? I’d happily donate to support this site. Can’t help with setting up a donation site, though.

  41. @Magaramombi

    Please advise: I registered on the site Monday morning and created my first post on my android device. Although the ‘publishing post’ box came up I could not see it. I then tried posting twice again with the same results.

    I then thought I’d try posting from a PC and was surprised to see my first post on the site (I fear there are several others possibly in the queue now).

    Is there a delay associated with ‘posting’. Thanks

    There is not usually a delay, but might be for your first post. Can’t speak about Android but generally the site does not like Explorer on a PC.

    Welcome to the madness anyway.

  42. @MangoDave

    @Buck Rogers

    My seatpost is thisssssssss long!

    Alright folks! Time for a bit of “It’s a Wonderful Velominati Life”.

    Frahnk, through no fault of his own, is in the lurch for a bunch of kit money at a bit of a rough time. He is actually selling off his bikes trying to raise the funds to make it right (kind of like cashing in his life insurance money, eh???).

    Somehow the Mr Potter of this world has stolen his $8,000 bucks (or whatever the fuck the amount was).

    So I propose that anyone that can, donate a bit of money to the site. And this is not me trying to raise money for my kit, this is just trying to help out Frahnk and the site.

    Obviously I have no idea of how to do this but if someone can set up one of those internet donation help sites, I’d love to contribute!

    Thanks all and Merckxy Christmas!!!

    Buck, is this true or just a little holiday fun? I’d happily donate to support this site. Can’t help with setting up a donation site, though.

    Wow! This came through finally!!! I posted this on Christmas day (along with this photo). It is real. Frahnk was fucked by “The Man” and is in the lurch for the money for the recent order. If someone knows how to set up a “Go Fund Me” (or as I like to say, “Go Fuck Me”) website for this, I owuld love to donate some to Frahnk for all that he does around here for

    free.

  43. @Buck Rogers

    It would seem a clamp-on front changer is entirely appropriate…

    From this book, published in 1986, but containing many detail images of Hinault’s 1985 road bikes. Also indicates older-style Nuovo Record two-bolt seat post rather the single-bolt Super Record.

  44. @osbk67

    Oh, THAT is brilliant! That is the exact bike I am building up for my Eroica adventures!

    What a resource! Just bought a used copy off of Amazon for 2 bucks once I saw your post. I have the 1985 Fabulous World of Cycling book that I have been using as well.

    I am working with a guy in Scotland who is a huge La Vie Claire “expert” and has multiple bikes from that team. He is also helping me to source the exact correct parts for the bike.

    He had told me that Hinault used the Nuevo Record seatpost and not the SR one as well but great catch on your part! any help/confirmation that I can get is greatly appreciated!

    Thanks!

  45. @osbk67

    @Buck Rogers

    From this book, published in 1986, but containing many detail images of Hinault’s 1985 road bikes. Also indicates older-style Nuovo Record two-bolt seat post rather the single-bolt Super Record.

    I realised when I saw this post that my life was not complete because I don’t own this book. I have put this right and will have my copy soon.

  46. @RobSandy @Buck Rogers

    I have a few other relics of the era I’m happy to look through if you can’t find answers elsewhere. Probably catalogues for most of the parts of the day as well, but nothing for Hinault frames, which were a fairly short-lived venture.

    “Bicycle Mechanics in Workshop and Competition”, first published 1986, is an interesting and relevant read if one is dealing with racing bicycles of that vintage.

  47. @osbk67

    Speaking with some people that know a LOT more than I do, it sounds like the Hinault bikes that the whole team rode were all custom builds made out of 753 Reynolds, at least for 1985.

    I do not think that they ever mass made that many of them (if any at all?)?

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