Bardet and Pinot PHOTO / LIONEL BONAVENTURE
That is my question. Both want to be considered great cyclists, not great French cyclists. It is a cruel and heavy burden to be an excellent French cyclist. When are you going to win the Tour de France? Bernard Hinaults don’t come around very often, maybe never again. Hinault was the French Merckx; winning was everything. If he was not a cyclist he should have been a professional fighter. Fignon was called the professor because he was from Paris and wore glasses, not because he was an intellectual. He managed to win some Tours and not be a badger. He was not out happily slugging protesters. If Hinault had lost to Lemond by eight seconds…one, it wouldn’t have happened. Hinault would have burst his own heart to finish nine seconds faster. Two, if he had lost by eight seconds, he would have slugged Lemond so damn hard it would have put him back in the hospital.
I hope the French are happy they have any prospective Tour winners. The Americans have none. Most countries do not because it takes a special genetic freak in a sport of genetic freaks to be one. The English had to sweep their post-colonial, high altitude Kenyan supply system to come up with one. Of this French pair I have a bias toward Romain Bardet partially because he rides for AG2R and on Keepers Tour 2012 we met directeur Vincent Lavenu. VL seemed a good sort and for inexplicable, Rule ignoring reasons, I sort of like their kit, but I digress.
Thibaut Pinot and Romain Bardet: both 24 years old, both stage winners in the 2015 Tour, both prodigious climbers, both saddled with the “next French hope” mantle.
Judging from this edition’s Alpe d’Huez stage, Pinot actually may be be the stronger climber. If you can ride everyone off your wheel on Alpe d’Huez, you are a badass. For climbing style points, Romain wins. He is solid and smooth to Pinot’s lack of. Going downhill, if you try to pedal through a corner and catch your inside pedal (and crash) doing so, points off. Bardet descends like Philippe Gilbert, that is to say, avec grande vitesse et les grand testicules.
Being the best climber or best descender does not make a grand tour winner. A grand tour winner does not have to be the best at anything, just very capable at everything. And not sucking at anything, like descending or time trialing and not having a jour sans.
Can either of these guys time trial? If Pinot can he should, by all rights, be one podium step closer in Paris than Andy Schleck* ever got. There is a large leap between a top ten Tour finish and a podium finish. It might be a larger leap from the third podium step to the top. Pinot and Bardet are in this mix.
Neither of these guys seem like punch throwing firebrands like Hinault, which may be good. Then who can better handle the pressure of being the next Fignon?
*I can still make fun of Andy Schleck even though he retired, yes?
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@Oli
No argument there, Twiggo is a Brit mod through and through. His hair says it all. I was just talking present day and Froome, who is "British", sort of.
I don't think Schleck considers himself the winner of that Tour.
I'm all in for Bardet. I'm not sure he is a Grand Tour contender but he seems a very complete cyclist and exudes panache. And he fucking goes downhill like a rocket.
@Teocalli
Pinot got all huffy and whiny on the cobbles, right in front of the camera. I guess he was seeing his GC slip off into the ditch about then. A beautiful French meltdown.
@ped
Bardet and Pinot are due some credit for winning stages 18 and 20, in the third week. TeeJay was gold for two weeks too, if you call sitting on wheels for two weeks gold. And Tony G was a beast in the spring too. Considering I wouldn't make the time cut in the prologue, it's amazing anyone makes it to the third week of the Tour. Genetic freaks.
Never mind that. You actually like the AG2R kit?? It's got brown on it, end of story. May The Prophet have Mercy
I was under the impression that AS is from Luxembourg rather than France. Is there a distinction in cycling?
@nobby
Yes, he's a Luxembourgeezer for sure, but I don't think Gianni was saying he was French, was he?
@Oli
Probably not, but didn't want AS coming on here moaning, you know how he gets
@Gianni
Ok, I should clarify. He understandably got all huffy on the day (who wouldn't?), but he didn't quit (literally or metaphorically) and knuckled down and rode hard for the rest of the Tour. To me that shows some strength of character. Barguil is exciting too - so long as he stays away from Geraint!
Doping is a criminal offence in France - added incentive for Les Coureurs Francais to ride clean, n'est-ce pas? So I really hope to see a Frenchman win again soon: Barguil Pinot, Bardet or some one else.
@Brendan O’Donoghue
Murder is a criminal offense here in the states (unless you work in law enforcement) and still there is quite a lot of it that happens.