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		By: unversio		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 15:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-265131&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@unversio&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-265131&quot;&gt;
Yes it is way early (way early), but picking a winner of the Giro d&#039;Italia 97Ëš now - Rigoberto Uran.

&lt;img class=&quot;vm_inlineimage&quot; src=&quot;http://testing.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/UNPULL/2013.11.15.06.10.09/1//UNPULL-2013.11.15.06.10.09-1-RigobertoUran.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;Checkout his fan &lt;a href=&quot;javascript:vm_DisplayContent(&#039;https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FFansRigobertoUran&#039;, &#039;&#039;);&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; page &quot;” he appears to be a humble killer.

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Very confident of this upcoming winner of Giro d&#039;Italia 97Ëš]]></description>
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Yes it is way early (way early), but picking a winner of the Giro d&#8217;Italia 97Ëš now &#8211; Rigoberto Uran.</p>
<p><img class="vm_inlineimage" src="http://testing.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/UNPULL/2013.11.15.06.10.09/1//UNPULL-2013.11.15.06.10.09-1-RigobertoUran.jpg" alt="" />Checkout his fan <a href="javascript:vm_DisplayContent('https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FFansRigobertoUran', '');" rel="nofollow">Facebook</a> page &#8220;” he appears to be a humble killer.</p>
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<p>Very confident of this upcoming winner of Giro d&#8217;Italia 97Ëš</p>
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		By: unversio		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 23:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like the look of this training -- Giro d&#039;Italia winning training.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the look of this training &#8212; Giro d&#8217;Italia winning training.</p>
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		By: unversio		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 23:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A holiday classic that had to be posted. (not my work)

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A holiday classic that had to be posted. (not my work)</p>
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		By: unversio		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 14:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes it is way early (way early), but picking a winner of the Giro d&#039;Italia 97Ëš now -- Rigoberto Uran.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/UNPULL/2013.11.15.06.10.09/1//UNPULL-2013.11.15.06.10.09-1-RigobertoUran.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;Checkout his fan &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.facebook.com/FansRigobertoUran&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; page -- he appears to be a humble killer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it is way early (way early), but picking a winner of the Giro d&#8217;Italia 97Ëš now &#8212; Rigoberto Uran.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/UNPULL/2013.11.15.06.10.09/1//UNPULL-2013.11.15.06.10.09-1-RigobertoUran.jpg" alt="" />Checkout his fan <a href="https://www.facebook.com/FansRigobertoUran" rel="nofollow">Facebook</a> page &#8212; he appears to be a humble killer.</p>
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		By: DerHoggz		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jun 2013 03:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-190416&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Sauterelle&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-190416&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-190394&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@strathlubnaig&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-190394&quot;&gt;
Fucking Eyetalian twats. Arrivederci Vini Santini.....

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;img src=&quot;http://velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/sauterelle/2013.06.03.19.15.04/1/vinifantini.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;

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Popping like grapes!]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-190394" rel="nofollow">@strathlubnaig</a></p>
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Fucking Eyetalian twats. Arrivederci Vini Santini&#8230;..</p>
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<p><img src="http://velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/sauterelle/2013.06.03.19.15.04/1/vinifantini.jpg" alt="" /></p>
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<p>Popping like grapes!</p>
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		By: strathlubnaig		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 21:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-190416&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Sauterelle&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-190416&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-190394&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@strathlubnaig&lt;/a&gt;

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Fucking Eyetalian twats. Arrivederci Vini Santini.....

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;img src=&quot;http://velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/sauterelle/2013.06.03.19.15.04/1/vinifantini.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;600&quot; height=&quot;450&quot; /&gt;

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
yip...knowing what we know now, that just drips irony.]]></description>
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<a class="vm_anchor" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-190394" rel="nofollow">@strathlubnaig</a></p>
<blockquote cite="#commentbody-190394"><p>
Fucking Eyetalian twats. Arrivederci Vini Santini&#8230;..</p>
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<p><img src="http://velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/sauterelle/2013.06.03.19.15.04/1/vinifantini.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="450" /></p>
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<p>yip&#8230;knowing what we know now, that just drips irony.</p>
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		By: Sauterelle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 19:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-190394&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@strathlubnaig&lt;/a&gt;

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Fucking Eyetalian twats. Arrivederci Vini Santini.....

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;img src=&quot;http://velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/sauterelle/2013.06.03.19.15.04/1/vinifantini.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;]]></description>
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<blockquote cite="#commentbody-190394"><p>
Fucking Eyetalian twats. Arrivederci Vini Santini&#8230;..</p>
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<p><img src="http://velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/sauterelle/2013.06.03.19.15.04/1/vinifantini.jpg" alt="" /></p>
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		By: ped		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ped]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 18:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-190396&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Deakus&lt;/a&gt;

Lube

Ride

Repeat]]></description>
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<p>Lube</p>
<p>Ride</p>
<p>Repeat</p>
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		By: Deakus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deakus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 18:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188454&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@JohnB&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188454&quot;&gt;
Purple Extreme lube on the #1. I get over 2000km out of a Dura Ace 10 speed before the chain checker says .75. Change before 1.0 and cassette is good for 3 chains. Shimano wet lube on the winter/ rain bike.

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Just stripped down chains on N1 &#038; 2 and then applied Dumonde Tech....man that stuff smells awesome....I will be sorely tempted to smother the VMH in it tonight!]]></description>
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Purple Extreme lube on the #1. I get over 2000km out of a Dura Ace 10 speed before the chain checker says .75. Change before 1.0 and cassette is good for 3 chains. Shimano wet lube on the winter/ rain bike.</p>
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<p>Just stripped down chains on N1 &amp; 2 and then applied Dumonde Tech&#8230;.man that stuff smells awesome&#8230;.I will be sorely tempted to smother the <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#VMH">VMH</a> in it tonight!</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 17:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fucking Eyetalian twats. Arrivederci Vini Santini.....]]></description>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2013 02:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-188473&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Dr C&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188473&quot;&gt;
Sad reality is I actually won&#039;t be able to get up that beast in my current shape, but I&#039;ll give it a lash - fail reports next week

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Kill it and spill the glory! There is no V in &quot;sand bagging&quot;.]]></description>
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Sad reality is I actually won&#8217;t be able to get up that beast in my current shape, but I&#8217;ll give it a lash &#8211; fail reports next week</p>
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<p>Kill it and spill the glory! There is no V in &#8220;sand bagging&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Bianchi Denti		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bianchi Denti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2013 01:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188168&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;color: #606060;text-decoration: none&quot; href=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/velominati-super-prestige/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/#comment-188149&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@strathlubnaig&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188149&quot;&gt;
Just a reminder of how hard pro cyclists can be....

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist&lt;/a&gt;

Sure shows soccer playing wanks how it ough to be done

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
so if Nibali is not at TDF then who is Astana&#039;s GC guy?

anyone know what kind of budgets they operate with?

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Fuglsang, who&#039;ll be lucky to finish at all, let alone in the top 10!

20-30 million Euros per year, I think.]]></description>
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<a class="vm_anchor" style="color: #606060;text-decoration: none" href="http://www.velominati.com/velominati-super-prestige/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/#comment-188149" rel="nofollow">@strathlubnaig</a></p>
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Just a reminder of how hard pro cyclists can be&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist" rel="nofollow">http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist</a></p>
<p>Sure shows soccer playing wanks how it ough to be done</p>
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<p>so if Nibali is not at TDF then who is Astana&#8217;s GC guy?</p>
<p>anyone know what kind of budgets they operate with?</p>
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<p>Fuglsang, who&#8217;ll be lucky to finish at all, let alone in the top 10!</p>
<p>20-30 million Euros per year, I think.</p>
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		By: Dr C		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 22:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-188449&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@JohnB&lt;/a&gt;

and the unimaginatively named Seafood Pasta dish at Atacaya makes all the suffering worthwhile!

Ditto the Papaya Juice in Soria

For me, I&#039;m off to not ride up the Stelvio this sunday, as the friggin place is still sowed up!

....it&#039;ll have to be the Motirolo then!!

Sad reality is I actually won&#039;t be able to get up that beast in my current shape, but I&#039;ll give it a lash - fail reports next week

Enjoy GC]]></description>
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<p>and the unimaginatively named Seafood Pasta dish at Atacaya makes all the suffering worthwhile!</p>
<p>Ditto the Papaya Juice in Soria</p>
<p>For me, I&#8217;m off to not ride up the Stelvio this sunday, as the friggin place is still sowed up!</p>
<p>&#8230;.it&#8217;ll have to be the Motirolo then!!</p>
<p>Sad reality is I actually won&#8217;t be able to get up that beast in my current shape, but I&#8217;ll give it a lash &#8211; fail reports next week</p>
<p>Enjoy GC</p>
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		By: JohnB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 21:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Purple Extreme lube on the #1. I get over 2000km out of a Dura Ace 10 speed before the chain checker says .75. Change before 1.0 and cassette is good for 3 chains. Shimano wet lube on the winter/ rain bike.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Purple Extreme lube on the #1. I get over 2000km out of a Dura Ace 10 speed before the chain checker says .75. Change before 1.0 and cassette is good for 3 chains. Shimano wet lube on the winter/ rain bike.</p>
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		By: JohnB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 21:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188007&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Dr C&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188007&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187995&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@JohnB&lt;/a&gt;

Where are you riding in GC?

The climb up from Mogan to 2/3 way up is one of the best climbs anywhere - bit shitty on up to the top of the mountain after that, but glorious up to that point, and what a descent! 10/10 - mind you, it&#039;s in a sheltered gully, so make sure you have plenty of water and and ice maker on your top tube, coz it&#039;s gonna be frikking hot in the summer

&lt;a class=&quot;vm_linkablecontent&quot; href=&quot;javascript:vm_DisplayContent(&#039;http%3A%2F%2Fapp.strava.com%2Fsegments%2F843156&#039;, &#039;&#039;);&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://app.strava.com/segments/843156&lt;/a&gt;

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Staying in Amadores this year. This will be the 4th year in the past few I&#039;ll be in GC, spent a couple in Lanzarore and Tenerife. Just not the same. I know that Ojeda climb well, it was one of the first I discovered and the one I look forward to most every time I&#039;m back. There are options to continue for a whole day run taking in the 1949m of Pico de las Nieves or return via Soria or Ayacata if its a couple or 3 hours. Free Motion do great hire bikes, no need to risk my own to a Ryanair baggage handler. It does get a bit cooler up high, but still sharpens the tan lines nicely. Plenty local options to sample an espresso and top up the bottles. Going to have a closer look at the north of the island this year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188007" rel="nofollow">@Dr C</a></p>
<blockquote cite="#commentbody-188007"><p>
<a class="vm_anchor" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-187995" rel="nofollow">@JohnB</a></p>
<p>Where are you riding in GC?</p>
<p>The climb up from Mogan to 2/3 way up is one of the best climbs anywhere &#8211; bit shitty on up to the top of the mountain after that, but glorious up to that point, and what a descent! 10/10 &#8211; mind you, it&#8217;s in a sheltered gully, so make sure you have plenty of water and and ice maker on your top tube, coz it&#8217;s gonna be frikking hot in the summer</p>
<p><a class="vm_linkablecontent" href="javascript:vm_DisplayContent('http%3A%2F%2Fapp.strava.com%2Fsegments%2F843156', '');" rel="nofollow">http://app.strava.com/segments/843156</a></p>
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<p>Staying in Amadores this year. This will be the 4th year in the past few I&#8217;ll be in GC, spent a couple in Lanzarore and Tenerife. Just not the same. I know that Ojeda climb well, it was one of the first I discovered and the one I look forward to most every time I&#8217;m back. There are options to continue for a whole day run taking in the 1949m of Pico de las Nieves or return via Soria or Ayacata if its a couple or 3 hours. Free Motion do great hire bikes, no need to risk my own to a Ryanair baggage handler. It does get a bit cooler up high, but still sharpens the tan lines nicely. Plenty local options to sample an espresso and top up the bottles. Going to have a closer look at the north of the island this year.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 17:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188337&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@starclimber&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188337&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188149&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@strathlubnaig&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188149&quot;&gt;
Just a reminder of how hard pro cyclists can be....

&lt;a class=&quot;vm_linkablecontent&quot; href=&quot;javascript:vm_DisplayContent(&#039;http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cyclingnews.com%2Fnews%2Fmorabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist&#039;, &#039;&#039;);&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist&lt;/a&gt;

Sure shows soccer playing wanks how it ough to be done

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That link is dead, presumably due to a wee overstatement. He only raced over 1,000 km with a &lt;a class=&quot;vm_linkablecontent&quot; title=&quot;Ankylosaurus Unbrokeni&quot; href=&quot;javascript:vm_DisplayContent(&#039;http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cyclingnews.com%2Fnews%2Fmorabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-hand&#039;, &#039;&#039;);&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;broken bone in his hand&lt;/a&gt;. Ridiculously tough enough, imho.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Ah so no broken ankle then, just the wrist, well good effort anyway, probably just severely twisted. These GTs always bring out the best in rule 5 behaviour. Inspiration indeed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188337" rel="nofollow">@starclimber</a></p>
<blockquote cite="#commentbody-188337"><p>
<a class="vm_anchor" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-188149" rel="nofollow">@strathlubnaig</a></p>
<blockquote cite="#commentbody-188149"><p>
Just a reminder of how hard pro cyclists can be&#8230;.</p>
<p><a class="vm_linkablecontent" href="javascript:vm_DisplayContent('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cyclingnews.com%2Fnews%2Fmorabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist', '');" rel="nofollow">http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist</a></p>
<p>Sure shows soccer playing wanks how it ough to be done</p>
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<p>That link is dead, presumably due to a wee overstatement. He only raced over 1,000 km with a <a class="vm_linkablecontent" title="Ankylosaurus Unbrokeni" href="javascript:vm_DisplayContent('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cyclingnews.com%2Fnews%2Fmorabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-hand', '');" rel="nofollow">broken bone in his hand</a>. Ridiculously tough enough, imho.</p>
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<p>Ah so no broken ankle then, just the wrist, well good effort anyway, probably just severely twisted. These GTs always bring out the best in  <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-rules/#5">Rule #5</a> behaviour. Inspiration indeed.</p>
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		By: frank		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 17:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188308&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@simonsaunders&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188315&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Deakus&lt;/a&gt;

Yes, consider the Stage VSP independent from the Giro VSP. Points from the Stage go into the overall VSP, not the Giro VSP.]]></description>
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<p>Yes, consider the Stage VSP independent from the Giro VSP. Points from the Stage go into the overall VSP, not the Giro VSP.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 17:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188286&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Deakus&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188286&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188257&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ped&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188257&quot;&gt;
Hope I&#039;m not gonna get a DocB thrashing regarding this, from Velo-

The fastest bike lube isn&#039;t designed for your bike at
all. In every measure, the most efficient chain lubricant is simple paraffin wax, sold in solid blocks
at any hardware store. In the efficiency test it was
faster than the best bike lube by 0.24 watts and the
worst by 3.05 watts under ideal conditions. Following an hour covered in dirt, sand, and water, the
paraffin was nearly 6 watts faster than the worstperforming lube.
That&#039;s similar to changing from a low-quality
training tire to a super-thin race tire, or from a
cheap aero wheelset to the best available. Best of all,
paraffin wax costs less than $10 for a few blocks,
which will last months, if not years

More here - &lt;a class=&quot;vm_linkablecontent&quot; href=&quot;javascript:vm_DisplayContent(&#039;http%3A%2F%2Fwww.friction-facts.com%2F&#039;, &#039;&#039;);&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.friction-facts.com/&lt;/a&gt; which includes a home recipe for waxing your precious bits!

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
In the interests of health and safety and not blowing up my house, I am not going to spend any time melting down parafin wax.....as they say....a fool and his house are soon parted!

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
There was a study done similar to this which had Dumonde Tech as the worst performer. I don&#039;t generally use it on a rain bike because it is a real oil-based lube. On the other hand, in clean conditions, nothing runs smoother and quieter and I still use it and love it.

And it smells fantastic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188286" rel="nofollow">@Deakus</a></p>
<blockquote cite="#commentbody-188286"><p>
<a class="vm_anchor" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-188257" rel="nofollow">@ped</a></p>
<blockquote cite="#commentbody-188257"><p>
Hope I&#8217;m not gonna get a DocB thrashing regarding this, from Velo-</p>
<p>The fastest bike lube isn&#8217;t designed for your bike at<br />
all. In every measure, the most efficient chain lubricant is simple paraffin wax, sold in solid blocks<br />
at any hardware store. In the efficiency test it was<br />
faster than the best bike lube by 0.24 watts and the<br />
worst by 3.05 watts under ideal conditions. Following an hour covered in dirt, sand, and water, the<br />
paraffin was nearly 6 watts faster than the worstperforming lube.<br />
That&#8217;s similar to changing from a low-quality<br />
training tire to a super-thin race tire, or from a<br />
cheap aero wheelset to the best available. Best of all,<br />
paraffin wax costs less than $10 for a few blocks,<br />
which will last months, if not years</p>
<p>More here &#8211; <a class="vm_linkablecontent" href="javascript:vm_DisplayContent('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.friction-facts.com%2F', '');" rel="nofollow">http://www.friction-facts.com/</a> which includes a home recipe for waxing your precious bits!</p>
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<p>In the interests of health and safety and not blowing up my house, I am not going to spend any time melting down parafin wax&#8230;..as they say&#8230;.a fool and his house are soon parted!</p>
</blockquote>
<p>There was a study done similar to this which had Dumonde Tech as the worst performer. I don&#8217;t generally use it on a rain bike because it is a real oil-based lube. On the other hand, in clean conditions, nothing runs smoother and quieter and I still use it and love it.</p>
<p>And it smells fantastic.</p>
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		By: starclimber		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 16:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188149&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@strathlubnaig&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188149&quot;&gt;
Just a reminder of how hard pro cyclists can be....

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist&lt;/a&gt;

Sure shows soccer playing wanks how it ough to be done

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That link is dead, presumably due to a wee overstatement. He only raced over 1,000 km with a &lt;a title=&quot;Ankylosaurus Unbrokeni&quot; href=&quot;http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-hand&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;broken bone in his hand&lt;/a&gt;. Ridiculously tough enough, imho.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188149" rel="nofollow">@strathlubnaig</a></p>
<blockquote cite="#commentbody-188149"><p>
Just a reminder of how hard pro cyclists can be&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist" rel="nofollow">http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist</a></p>
<p>Sure shows soccer playing wanks how it ough to be done</p>
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<p>That link is dead, presumably due to a wee overstatement. He only raced over 1,000 km with a <a title="Ankylosaurus Unbrokeni" href="http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-hand" rel="nofollow">broken bone in his hand</a>. Ridiculously tough enough, imho.</p>
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		By: Deakus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deakus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 14:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188308&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@simonsaunders&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188308&quot;&gt;
Can i get a clarification?

My picks for the VSP get 9 (3 placed wherever)

But my pick for Giro stage 10 - got 7

Were these independently added and the total on here just the score for the overall.

Anyone.....?

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
They should have been independently added on the day.  I can not remember which stage was the &quot;one off&quot; where a VSP were run on a single day for that stage only, but if it was stage 10 they were all added on the day.  Your 9 points for the finish should then have been added a day or so ago...]]></description>
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Can i get a clarification?</p>
<p>My picks for the VSP get 9 (3 placed wherever)</p>
<p>But my pick for Giro stage 10 &#8211; got 7</p>
<p>Were these independently added and the total on here just the score for the overall.</p>
<p>Anyone&#8230;..?</p>
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<p>They should have been independently added on the day.  I can not remember which stage was the &#8220;one off&#8221; where a VSP were run on a single day for that stage only, but if it was stage 10 they were all added on the day.  Your 9 points for the finish should then have been added a day or so ago&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 13:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can i get a clarification?

My picks for the VSP get 9  (3 placed wherever)

But my pick for Giro stage 10 - got 7

Were these independently added and the total on here just the score for the overall.

Anyone.....?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can i get a clarification?</p>
<p>My picks for the VSP get 9  (3 placed wherever)</p>
<p>But my pick for Giro stage 10 &#8211; got 7</p>
<p>Were these independently added and the total on here just the score for the overall.</p>
<p>Anyone&#8230;..?</p>
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		By: Deakus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deakus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 13:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188287&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ped&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188287&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188286&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Deakus&lt;/a&gt; The fact that my first thought was, &quot;Can it really be that dangerous?&quot; possibly shows that I am not the right person to be doing this either

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Apparently it is not the wax catching fire that is a worry (although that can happen too) it is the fumes that are extremely flammable and explosive.  You need some sort of low heat burner...i.e. a cadle or hex tab might do it.  Do not try and light it up with a pinch of C4!]]></description>
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<a class="vm_anchor" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-188286" rel="nofollow">@Deakus</a> The fact that my first thought was, &#8220;Can it really be that dangerous?&#8221; possibly shows that I am not the right person to be doing this either</p>
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<p>Apparently it is not the wax catching fire that is a worry (although that can happen too) it is the fumes that are extremely flammable and explosive.  You need some sort of low heat burner&#8230;i.e. a cadle or hex tab might do it.  Do not try and light it up with a pinch of C4!</p>
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		By: RedRanger		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 12:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188182&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@the Engine&lt;/a&gt; I dont know what part of the world you are in but if things are very wet you may want to try &lt;a href=&quot;http://pedros.com/products/clean-and-lube/lubricants-and-grease/syn-lube/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pedros Syn lube&lt;/a&gt;.

I use their Ice wax on both my road and mountain bikes, but it only rains here 2 weeks the entire year, and I have to contend with all the dust and sand that gets into everything.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188182" rel="nofollow">@the Engine</a> I dont know what part of the world you are in but if things are very wet you may want to try <a href="http://pedros.com/products/clean-and-lube/lubricants-and-grease/syn-lube/" rel="nofollow">Pedros Syn lube</a>.</p>
<p>I use their Ice wax on both my road and mountain bikes, but it only rains here 2 weeks the entire year, and I have to contend with all the dust and sand that gets into everything.</p>
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		By: ped		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ped]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 12:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-188286&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Deakus&lt;/a&gt; The fact that my first thought was, &quot;Can it really be that dangerous?&quot; possibly shows that I am not the right person to be doing this either]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-188286" rel="nofollow">@Deakus</a> The fact that my first thought was, &#8220;Can it really be that dangerous?&#8221; possibly shows that I am not the right person to be doing this either</p>
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		By: Deakus		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-21/#comment-188286</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 12:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188257&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ped&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188257&quot;&gt;
Hope I&#039;m not gonna get a DocB thrashing regarding this, from Velo-

The fastest bike lube isn&#039;t designed for your bike at
all. In every measure, the most efficient chain lubricant is simple paraffin wax, sold in solid blocks
at any hardware store. In the efficiency test it was
faster than the best bike lube by 0.24 watts and the
worst by 3.05 watts under ideal conditions. Following an hour covered in dirt, sand, and water, the
paraffin was nearly 6 watts faster than the worstperforming lube.
That&#039;s similar to changing from a low-quality
training tire to a super-thin race tire, or from a
cheap aero wheelset to the best available. Best of all,
paraffin wax costs less than $10 for a few blocks,
which will last months, if not years

More here - &lt;a class=&quot;vm_linkablecontent&quot; href=&quot;javascript:vm_DisplayContent(&#039;http%3A%2F%2Fwww.friction-facts.com%2F&#039;, &#039;&#039;);&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.friction-facts.com/&lt;/a&gt; which includes a home recipe for waxing your precious bits!

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
In the interests of health and safety and not blowing up my house, I am not going to spend any time melting down parafin wax.....as they say....a fool and his house are soon parted!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188257" rel="nofollow">@ped</a></p>
<blockquote cite="#commentbody-188257"><p>
Hope I&#8217;m not gonna get a DocB thrashing regarding this, from Velo-</p>
<p>The fastest bike lube isn&#8217;t designed for your bike at<br />
all. In every measure, the most efficient chain lubricant is simple paraffin wax, sold in solid blocks<br />
at any hardware store. In the efficiency test it was<br />
faster than the best bike lube by 0.24 watts and the<br />
worst by 3.05 watts under ideal conditions. Following an hour covered in dirt, sand, and water, the<br />
paraffin was nearly 6 watts faster than the worstperforming lube.<br />
That&#8217;s similar to changing from a low-quality<br />
training tire to a super-thin race tire, or from a<br />
cheap aero wheelset to the best available. Best of all,<br />
paraffin wax costs less than $10 for a few blocks,<br />
which will last months, if not years</p>
<p>More here &#8211; <a class="vm_linkablecontent" href="javascript:vm_DisplayContent('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.friction-facts.com%2F', '');" rel="nofollow">http://www.friction-facts.com/</a> which includes a home recipe for waxing your precious bits!</p>
</blockquote>
<p>In the interests of health and safety and not blowing up my house, I am not going to spend any time melting down parafin wax&#8230;..as they say&#8230;.a fool and his house are soon parted!</p>
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		By: ped		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-21/#comment-188285</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ped]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 12:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-188262&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@mouse&lt;/a&gt; BUSTED! Damn, where&#039;s my mood altering Yankee Candle, need to chill out now]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-188262" rel="nofollow">@mouse</a> BUSTED! Damn, where&#8217;s my mood altering Yankee Candle, need to chill out now</p>
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		By: Giles		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-21/#comment-188275</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Giles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 11:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none;color: #606060&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188265&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@motor city&lt;/a&gt; that just sounds the dog&#039;s &#039;nads. I am a marketer&#039;s dream, I&#039;d buy it without your recommendation with a name like that...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none;color: #606060" href="#comment-188265" rel="nofollow">@motor city</a> that just sounds the dog&#8217;s &#8216;nads. I am a marketer&#8217;s dream, I&#8217;d buy it without your recommendation with a name like that&#8230;</p>
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		By: motor city		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-21/#comment-188265</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[motor city]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 11:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Its Fenwick Stealth Lube for me. Lovely stuff.]]></description>
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		By: mouse		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-21/#comment-188262</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 11:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188257&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ped&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188257&quot;&gt;
Hope I&#039;m not gonna get a DocB thrashing regarding this, from Velo-

The fastest bike lube isn&#039;t designed for your bike at
all. In every measure, the most efficient chain lubricant is simple paraffin wax, sold in solid blocks
at any hardware store. In the efficiency test it was
faster than the best bike lube by 0.24 watts and the
worst by 3.05 watts under ideal conditions. Following an hour covered in dirt, sand, and water, the
paraffin was nearly 6 watts faster than the worstperforming lube.
That&#039;s similar to changing from a low-quality
training tire to a super-thin race tire, or from a
cheap aero wheelset to the best available. Best of all,
paraffin wax costs less than $10 for a few blocks,
which will last months, if not years

More here - &lt;a class=&quot;vm_linkablecontent&quot; href=&quot;javascript:vm_DisplayContent(&#039;http%3A%2F%2Fwww.friction-facts.com%2F&#039;, &#039;&#039;);&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.friction-facts.com/&lt;/a&gt; which includes a home recipe for waxing your precious bits!

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
How do we know that you&#039;re not just a puppet of the paraffin wax cartels?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188257" rel="nofollow">@ped</a></p>
<blockquote cite="#commentbody-188257"><p>
Hope I&#8217;m not gonna get a DocB thrashing regarding this, from Velo-</p>
<p>The fastest bike lube isn&#8217;t designed for your bike at<br />
all. In every measure, the most efficient chain lubricant is simple paraffin wax, sold in solid blocks<br />
at any hardware store. In the efficiency test it was<br />
faster than the best bike lube by 0.24 watts and the<br />
worst by 3.05 watts under ideal conditions. Following an hour covered in dirt, sand, and water, the<br />
paraffin was nearly 6 watts faster than the worstperforming lube.<br />
That&#8217;s similar to changing from a low-quality<br />
training tire to a super-thin race tire, or from a<br />
cheap aero wheelset to the best available. Best of all,<br />
paraffin wax costs less than $10 for a few blocks,<br />
which will last months, if not years</p>
<p>More here &#8211; <a class="vm_linkablecontent" href="javascript:vm_DisplayContent('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.friction-facts.com%2F', '');" rel="nofollow">http://www.friction-facts.com/</a> which includes a home recipe for waxing your precious bits!</p>
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<p>How do we know that you&#8217;re not just a puppet of the paraffin wax cartels?</p>
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		By: ped		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-21/#comment-188257</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ped]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 10:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hope I&#039;m not gonna get a DocB thrashing regarding this, from Velo-

The fastest bike lube isn&#039;t designed for your bike at
all. In every measure, the most efficient chain lubricant is simple paraffin wax, sold in solid blocks
at any hardware store. In the efficiency test it was
faster than the best bike lube by 0.24 watts and the
worst by 3.05 watts under ideal conditions. Following an hour covered in dirt, sand, and water, the
paraffin was nearly 6 watts faster than the worstperforming lube.
That&#039;s similar to changing from a low-quality
training tire to a super-thin race tire, or from a
cheap aero wheelset to the best available. Best of all,
paraffin wax costs less than $10 for a few blocks,
which will last months, if not years

More here - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.friction-facts.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.friction-facts.com/&lt;/a&gt; which includes a home recipe for waxing your precious bits!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope I&#8217;m not gonna get a DocB thrashing regarding this, from Velo-</p>
<p>The fastest bike lube isn&#8217;t designed for your bike at<br />
all. In every measure, the most efficient chain lubricant is simple paraffin wax, sold in solid blocks<br />
at any hardware store. In the efficiency test it was<br />
faster than the best bike lube by 0.24 watts and the<br />
worst by 3.05 watts under ideal conditions. Following an hour covered in dirt, sand, and water, the<br />
paraffin was nearly 6 watts faster than the worstperforming lube.<br />
That&#8217;s similar to changing from a low-quality<br />
training tire to a super-thin race tire, or from a<br />
cheap aero wheelset to the best available. Best of all,<br />
paraffin wax costs less than $10 for a few blocks,<br />
which will last months, if not years</p>
<p>More here &#8211; <a href="http://www.friction-facts.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.friction-facts.com/</a> which includes a home recipe for waxing your precious bits!</p>
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		By: Deakus		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-21/#comment-188252</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deakus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 10:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188246&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ped&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188246&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188242&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Deakus&lt;/a&gt; Have you managed to get that in the yUK?

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I ordered it off ebay and it was shipped from the states...it was a little pricey but I figured if it works as well as stated it would be worth it.  The N+1 has a brand new chain so I have been living with the factory wax but am about to do a strip down and re-lube so I will be cracking the seal on the Dumonde any day now...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188246" rel="nofollow">@ped</a></p>
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<a class="vm_anchor" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-188242" rel="nofollow">@Deakus</a> Have you managed to get that in the yUK?</p>
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<p>I ordered it off ebay and it was shipped from the states&#8230;it was a little pricey but I figured if it works as well as stated it would be worth it.  The N+1 has a brand new chain so I have been living with the factory wax but am about to do a strip down and re-lube so I will be cracking the seal on the Dumonde any day now&#8230;</p>
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		By: ped		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-20/#comment-188246</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ped]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 09:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188242&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Deakus&lt;/a&gt; Have you managed to get that in the yUK?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188242" rel="nofollow">@Deakus</a> Have you managed to get that in the yUK?</p>
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		By: Deakus		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-20/#comment-188242</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deakus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 09:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188194&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ped&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188194&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188182&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@the Engine&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188182&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188041&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@RedRanger&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188041&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188033&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@the Engine&lt;/a&gt; what are you using for chain lube?

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This time of year light oil as recommended by the LBS - clean after every ride with White Lightning and then reapply. If I&#039;ve had a soaking and can&#039;t clean That Fucking Bike due to family duties I spray GT 40 on the drive train to keep corrosion at bay until I can - I&#039;ve seen rust develop during a coffee stop.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You might wanna try &lt;em&gt;green oil super dry chain WAX , yeah, it&#039;s &quot;dry&quot;, but given that we clean &#038; lube more regularly than you&#039;re average punter it will do the job. It&#039;s great for avoiding that build up of shite&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;&lt;img class=&quot;vm_inlineimage&quot; src=&quot;http://www.thewashingmachinepost.net/green_oil/wax/wax_lube_2.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;green oil chain wax&quot; /&gt;Yeah, the wax looks a bit odd, but better than orange ferric deposits&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I thought the preferred weapon of choice was Dumonde Tech...?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188194" rel="nofollow">@ped</a></p>
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<a class="vm_anchor" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-188182" rel="nofollow">@the Engine</a></p>
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<a class="vm_anchor" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-188041" rel="nofollow">@RedRanger</a></p>
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<a class="vm_anchor" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-188033" rel="nofollow">@the Engine</a> what are you using for chain lube?</p>
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<p>This time of year light oil as recommended by the LBS &#8211; clean after every ride with White Lightning and then reapply. If I&#8217;ve had a soaking and can&#8217;t clean <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#That Fucking Bike">That Fucking Bike</a> due to family duties I spray GT 40 on the drive train to keep corrosion at bay until I can &#8211; I&#8217;ve seen rust develop during a coffee stop.</p>
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<p>You might wanna try <em>green oil super dry chain WAX , yeah, it&#8217;s &#8220;dry&#8221;, but given that we clean &amp; lube more regularly than you&#8217;re average punter it will do the job. It&#8217;s great for avoiding that build up of shite</em></p>
<p><em><img class="vm_inlineimage" src="http://www.thewashingmachinepost.net/green_oil/wax/wax_lube_2.jpg" alt="green oil chain wax" />Yeah, the wax looks a bit odd, but better than orange ferric deposits</em></p>
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<p>I thought the preferred weapon of choice was Dumonde Tech&#8230;?</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 09:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-188182&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@the Engine&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188182&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-188041&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@RedRanger&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188041&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-188033&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@the Engine&lt;/a&gt; what are you using for chain lube?

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This time of year light oil as recommended by the LBS - clean after every ride with White Lightning and then reapply. If I&#039;ve had a soaking and can&#039;t clean That Fucking Bike due to family duties I spray GT 40 on the drive train to keep corrosion at bay until I can - I&#039;ve seen rust develop during a coffee stop.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You might wanna try &lt;em&gt;green oil  super dry chain WAX , yeah, it&#039;s &quot;dry&quot;, but given that we clean &#038; lube more regularly than you&#039;re average punter it will do the job. It&#039;s great for avoiding that build up of  shite&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.thewashingmachinepost.net/green_oil/wax/wax_lube_2.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;green oil chain wax&quot; /&gt;Yeah, the wax looks a bit odd, but better than orange ferric deposits&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-188041" rel="nofollow">@RedRanger</a></p>
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<a href="#comment-188033" rel="nofollow">@the Engine</a> what are you using for chain lube?</p>
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<p>This time of year light oil as recommended by the LBS &#8211; clean after every ride with White Lightning and then reapply. If I&#8217;ve had a soaking and can&#8217;t clean <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#That Fucking Bike">That Fucking Bike</a> due to family duties I spray GT 40 on the drive train to keep corrosion at bay until I can &#8211; I&#8217;ve seen rust develop during a coffee stop.</p>
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<p>You might wanna try <em>green oil  super dry chain WAX , yeah, it&#8217;s &#8220;dry&#8221;, but given that we clean &amp; lube more regularly than you&#8217;re average punter it will do the job. It&#8217;s great for avoiding that build up of  shite</em></p>
<p><em><img src="http://www.thewashingmachinepost.net/green_oil/wax/wax_lube_2.jpg" alt="green oil chain wax" />Yeah, the wax looks a bit odd, but better than orange ferric deposits</em></p>
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		By: Mikael Liddy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mikael Liddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 08:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188083&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@frank&lt;/a&gt;

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I&#039;ve been on holiday a few days and am amazed to find this out about myself. Particularly since the good Doc appears to be better with a scalpel than his spell checker as I had a job of it sorting out what he&#039;d said. And, the people he appears to have a beef with don&#039;t run the site. He attention to detail mirrors his opinion of electronic shifting.

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I&#039;ve just assumed it&#039;s his digital version of a doctor&#039;s particular brand of illegible scrawl...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188083" rel="nofollow">@frank</a></p>
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I&#8217;ve been on holiday a few days and am amazed to find this out about myself. Particularly since the good Doc appears to be better with a scalpel than his spell checker as I had a job of it sorting out what he&#8217;d said. And, the people he appears to have a beef with don&#8217;t run the site. He attention to detail mirrors his opinion of electronic shifting.</p>
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<p>I&#8217;ve just assumed it&#8217;s his digital version of a doctor&#8217;s particular brand of illegible scrawl&#8230;</p>
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		By: the Engine		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-20/#comment-188182</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[the Engine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 08:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188041&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@RedRanger&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188041&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188033&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@the Engine&lt;/a&gt; what are you using for chain lube?

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This time of year light oil as recommended by the LBS - clean after every ride with White Lightning and then reapply. If I&#039;ve had a soaking and can&#039;t clean That Fucking Bike due to family duties I spray GT 40 on the drive train to keep corrosion at bay until I can - I&#039;ve seen rust develop during a coffee stop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188041" rel="nofollow">@RedRanger</a></p>
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<a class="vm_anchor" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-188033" rel="nofollow">@the Engine</a> what are you using for chain lube?</p>
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<p>This time of year light oil as recommended by the LBS &#8211; clean after every ride with White Lightning and then reapply. If I&#8217;ve had a soaking and can&#8217;t clean <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#That Fucking Bike">That Fucking Bike</a> due to family duties I spray GT 40 on the drive train to keep corrosion at bay until I can &#8211; I&#8217;ve seen rust develop during a coffee stop.</p>
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		By: piwakawaka		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-20/#comment-188178</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[piwakawaka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 07:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188174&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Daccordi Rider&lt;/a&gt; why gamble on new tech with a sure thing like Cav? looking forward to him Griepel, and Sagan going head to head at TDF, hopefully being a Badass all over Italy won&#039;t slow him down any, Griepel had a week in the rain in Belgium Sagan had a week of sun in the US wonder who had the best prep?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188174" rel="nofollow">@Daccordi Rider</a> why gamble on new tech with a sure thing like Cav? looking forward to him Griepel, and Sagan going head to head at TDF, hopefully being a Badass all over Italy won&#8217;t slow him down any, Griepel had a week in the rain in Belgium Sagan had a week of sun in the US wonder who had the best prep?</p>
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		By: Daccordi Rider		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daccordi Rider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 07:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-188168&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@piwakawaka&lt;/a&gt; And Cav did it without electronic gears. He must be good operating at such a disadvantage.]]></description>
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		By: piwakawaka		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[piwakawaka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 06:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188149&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@strathlubnaig&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188149&quot;&gt;
Just a reminder of how hard pro cyclists can be....

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist&lt;/a&gt;

Sure shows soccer playing wanks how it ough to be done

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Every single one of &#039;em who finished that tour, hard as FUCK, long, fast, steep, wet, cold, steep, freezing, fast, steep, snow, rain, hail, and they&#039;re racing each other, hard as FUCK. Great tour the strongest guy with undoubtably the strongest team, he still had two left 3km from the finale of stage 20, very well ridden by both, so if Nibali is not at TDF then who is Astana&#039;s GC guy?

Looking forward to seeing how guys who rode the Giro perform in France, Cavendish must be rubbing his hands with glee at his prospects, again great support from his team, another great aspect of this noble art is that it requires an entire team for one individual to win, and that&#039;s just the team on the road, the investment must be huge at this level, anyone know what kind of budgets they operate with?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188149" rel="nofollow">@strathlubnaig</a></p>
<blockquote cite="#commentbody-188149"><p>
Just a reminder of how hard pro cyclists can be&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist" rel="nofollow">http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist</a></p>
<p>Sure shows soccer playing wanks how it ough to be done</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Every single one of &#8217;em who finished that tour, hard as FUCK, long, fast, steep, wet, cold, steep, freezing, fast, steep, snow, rain, hail, and they&#8217;re racing each other, hard as FUCK. Great tour the strongest guy with undoubtably the strongest team, he still had two left 3km from the finale of stage 20, very well ridden by both, so if Nibali is not at TDF then who is Astana&#8217;s GC guy?</p>
<p>Looking forward to seeing how guys who rode the Giro perform in France, Cavendish must be rubbing his hands with glee at his prospects, again great support from his team, another great aspect of this noble art is that it requires an entire team for one individual to win, and that&#8217;s just the team on the road, the investment must be huge at this level, anyone know what kind of budgets they operate with?</p>
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		By: Marcus		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-20/#comment-188165</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 06:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-188091&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@frank&lt;/a&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188091&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/velominati-super-prestige/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/#comment-188057&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Marcus&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188057&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/velominati-super-prestige/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/#comment-188055&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@paolo&lt;/a&gt; You are most probably right - however if i could fuck myself I could probaby also kid myself into thinking that i was really good.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The question is, would you also fake your own orgasms?&lt;/blockquote&gt;



A chick once told me - &#039;Opinions are like orgasms...mine matters most &#038; I really don&#039;t care if you have one.&#039;

She is still single.]]></description>
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<a href="http://www.velominati.com/velominati-super-prestige/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/#comment-188057" rel="nofollow">@Marcus</a></p>
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<a href="http://www.velominati.com/velominati-super-prestige/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/#comment-188055" rel="nofollow">@paolo</a> You are most probably right &#8211; however if i could fuck myself I could probaby also kid myself into thinking that i was really good.</p>
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<p>The question is, would you also fake your own orgasms?</p></blockquote>
<p>A chick once told me &#8211; &#8216;Opinions are like orgasms&#8230;mine matters most &amp; I really don&#8217;t care if you have one.&#8217;</p>
<p>She is still single.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ChrisO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 05:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So pleased that the counter-argument to DocBrian&#039;s observation about &quot;the self-opinionated morons who run this site&quot;  has largely been based on the fact that we don&#039;t run the site.

I would hate to lose credit, wherever it comes from.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So pleased that the counter-argument to DocBrian&#8217;s observation about &#8220;the self-opinionated morons who run this site&#8221;  has largely been based on the fact that we don&#8217;t run the site.</p>
<p>I would hate to lose credit, wherever it comes from.</p>
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		By: strathlubnaig		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-20/#comment-188149</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[strathlubnaig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 05:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just a reminder of how hard pro cyclists can be....

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist

Sure shows soccer playing wanks how it ough to be done]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a reminder of how hard pro cyclists can be&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist</a></p>
<p>Sure shows soccer playing wanks how it ough to be done</p>
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		By: minion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[minion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 04:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[*fuck* &lt;em&gt;BUY &lt;/em&gt;*it*]]></description>
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		By: minion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[minion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 04:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187888&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Marcus&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-187888&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187882&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;

If only I could fuck myself silly- &lt;strong&gt;I would realize what a bitter, bitter disappointment I am in the sack and by Mrs Marcus a new house without me in it. &lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
There ya go sweetheart fixed it for you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-187888" rel="nofollow">@Marcus</a></p>
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<a class="vm_anchor" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-187882" rel="nofollow"> </a></p>
<p>If only I could fuck myself silly- <strong>I would realize what a bitter, bitter disappointment I am in the sack and by Mrs Marcus a new house without me in it. </strong></p>
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<p>There ya go sweetheart fixed it for you.</p>
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		By: DerHoggz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DerHoggz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 03:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-188119&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@mouse&lt;/a&gt;

Who brakes?  If you brake you lose.]]></description>
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<p>Who brakes?  If you brake you lose.</p>
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		By: mouse		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 03:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none;color: #606060&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188031&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Deakus&lt;/a&gt;

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&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;color: #606060;text-decoration: none&quot; href=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/velominati-super-prestige/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/#comment-188029&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Beers&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188029&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; href=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/velominati-super-prestige/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/#comment-187932&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Giles&lt;/a&gt;

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Disk brakes are just wrong on a road bike.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
They would be fucking WIN on a rain bike though! Those few seconds pumping the water off the rim before the pads work clenches my buttocks everytime...

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Aha..but that puts you on carbon rims surely?....those of us on alu rims suffer less...

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Seems my last post put someone&#039;s nose out of joint enough to pack it in.
Let&#039;s see if I can make it two for two...

Carbon rims on your rain bike.

All of my riding through this autumn in Melbs has been on Carbon rims.  The thing that I&#039;m discovering is that;

i) They perform surprisingly well braking wise

ii) They stay clean!!

I&#039;m loving the fact that even after a filthy wet ride, my bike isn&#039;t covered in that shitty aluminium / grit paste that is ground off the braking surface of aluminium rims.

Carbon rims for all conditions. Put your aluminium hoops in the bin. Now.

....Aaaaand; GO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none;color: #606060" href="#comment-188031" rel="nofollow">@Deakus</a></p>
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<a class="vm_anchor" style="color: #606060;text-decoration: none" href="http://www.velominati.com/velominati-super-prestige/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/#comment-188029" rel="nofollow">@Beers</a></p>
<blockquote cite="#commentbody-188029"><p>
<a class="vm_anchor" href="http://www.velominati.com/velominati-super-prestige/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/#comment-187932" rel="nofollow">@Giles</a></p>
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Disk brakes are just wrong on a road bike.</p>
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<p>They would be fucking WIN on a rain bike though! Those few seconds pumping the water off the rim before the pads work clenches my buttocks everytime&#8230;</p>
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<p>Aha..but that puts you on carbon rims surely?&#8230;.those of us on alu rims suffer less&#8230;</p>
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<p>Seems my last post put someone&#8217;s nose out of joint enough to pack it in.<br />
Let&#8217;s see if I can make it two for two&#8230;</p>
<p>Carbon rims on your rain bike.</p>
<p>All of my riding through this autumn in Melbs has been on Carbon rims.  The thing that I&#8217;m discovering is that;</p>
<p>i) They perform surprisingly well braking wise</p>
<p>ii) They stay clean!!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m loving the fact that even after a filthy wet ride, my bike isn&#8217;t covered in that shitty aluminium / grit paste that is ground off the braking surface of aluminium rims.</p>
<p>Carbon rims for all conditions. Put your aluminium hoops in the bin. Now.</p>
<p>&#8230;.Aaaaand; GO.</p>
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		By: strathlubnaig		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 02:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188089&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@frank&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188089&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188072&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@strathlubnaig&lt;/a&gt;

You look like a fanny with that pink shirt. Don&#039;t let the guys on the rig see you in that.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Maybe aye, but a fucking FANTASTIC looking fanny....]]></description>
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<a class="vm_anchor" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-188072" rel="nofollow">@strathlubnaig</a></p>
<p>You look like a fanny with that pink shirt. Don&#8217;t let the guys on the rig see you in that.</p>
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<p>Maybe aye, but a fucking FANTASTIC looking fanny&#8230;.</p>
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		By: DerHoggz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DerHoggz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 01:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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Is it just me, or did Vincenzo Nibali win a Barbie Dream House throne?

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What is it with the fucking thrones? Its a worse trend than baseball caps on the podium.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2013.05.28.00.00.16/1/Bradley-Wiggins-relaxes-i-001.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;

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I&#039;m telling you, after Sky/Wiggins dominated last year they have become the model to follow it seems.  First the TT-winning fist pump, now a throne.  I was surprised by the distinct lack of sideburns throughout the peloton, even on the Modfather.  Perhaps that explains his poor performance?  Contador is taking some races off to grow his out before the TdF no doubt.]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-187970" rel="nofollow">@Erik</a></p>
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Is it just me, or did Vincenzo Nibali win a Barbie Dream House throne?</p>
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<p>What is it with the fucking thrones? Its a worse trend than baseball caps on the podium.</p>
<p><img src="http://velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2013.05.28.00.00.16/1/Bradley-Wiggins-relaxes-i-001.jpg" alt="" /></p>
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<p>I&#8217;m telling you, after Sky/Wiggins dominated last year they have become the model to follow it seems.  First the TT-winning fist pump, now a throne.  I was surprised by the distinct lack of sideburns throughout the peloton, even on the Modfather.  Perhaps that explains his poor performance?  Contador is taking some races off to grow his out before the TdF no doubt.</p>
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		By: PeakInTwoYears		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 01:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188095&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@paolo&lt;/a&gt;

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I wonder if Amoebas tell each other to go fuck themselves?

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Where do you suppose we get it?

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Wow, you must not be American. You know you are hinting at actual evoloution don&#039;t you? Not the sort that sees dura ace become di2 but actual evoloution. This is tant amount to herasy in some parts of this country. ( not the PNW where it sems many enlightened people live..i hasten to add).

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American of the big-government socialist class-warfare social-engineering Wall Street-occupying pot-legalizing gay marriage-supporting flavor. (Unless you&#039;re coming for my guns, in which case you should bring several well-armed friends.)]]></description>
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<a class="vm_anchor" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-188078" rel="nofollow">@PeakInTwoYears</a></p>
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<a class="vm_anchor" style="color: #606060; text-decoration: none;" href="http://www.velominati.com/velominati-super-prestige/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/#comment-188061" rel="nofollow">@paolo</a></p>
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I wonder if Amoebas tell each other to go fuck themselves?</p>
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<p>Where do you suppose we get it?</p>
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<p>Wow, you must not be American. You know you are hinting at actual evoloution don&#8217;t you? Not the sort that sees dura ace become di2 but actual evoloution. This is tant amount to herasy in some parts of this country. ( not the PNW where it sems many enlightened people live..i hasten to add).</p>
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<p>American of the big-government socialist class-warfare social-engineering Wall Street-occupying pot-legalizing gay marriage-supporting flavor. (Unless you&#8217;re coming for my guns, in which case you should bring several well-armed friends.)</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 01:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;color: #606060;text-decoration: none&quot; href=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/velominati-super-prestige/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/#comment-187970&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Erik&lt;/a&gt;

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Is it just me, or did Vincenzo Nibali win a Barbie Dream House throne?

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What is it with the fucking thrones? Its a worse trend than baseball caps on the podium.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2013.05.28.00.00.16/1/Bradley-Wiggins-relaxes-i-001.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;460&quot; height=&quot;582&quot; /&gt;
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poor wiggo....did you ever see someone so uncomfortable and ill at ease with themselves.  I hope as he grows older he gets used to being inside his own skin.]]></description>
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<a class="vm_anchor" style="color: #606060;text-decoration: none" href="http://www.velominati.com/velominati-super-prestige/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/#comment-187970" rel="nofollow">@Erik</a></p>
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Is it just me, or did Vincenzo Nibali win a Barbie Dream House throne?</p>
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<p>What is it with the fucking thrones? Its a worse trend than baseball caps on the podium.</p>
<p><img src="http://velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2013.05.28.00.00.16/1/Bradley-Wiggins-relaxes-i-001.jpg" alt="" width="460" height="582" />
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<p>poor wiggo&#8230;.did you ever see someone so uncomfortable and ill at ease with themselves.  I hope as he grows older he gets used to being inside his own skin.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paolo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 01:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;color: #606060;text-decoration: none&quot; href=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/velominati-super-prestige/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/#comment-188061&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@paolo&lt;/a&gt;

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I wonder if Amoebas tell each other to go fuck themselves?

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Where do you suppose we get it?

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Wow, you must not be American. You know you are hinting at actual evoloution don&#039;t you?  Not the sort that sees dura ace become di2 but actual evoloution.   This is tant amount to herasy in some parts of this country.  ( not the PNW where it sems many enlightened people live..i hasten to add).]]></description>
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<a class="vm_anchor" style="color: #606060;text-decoration: none" href="http://www.velominati.com/velominati-super-prestige/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/#comment-188061" rel="nofollow">@paolo</a></p>
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I wonder if Amoebas tell each other to go fuck themselves?</p>
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<p>Where do you suppose we get it?</p>
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<p>Wow, you must not be American. You know you are hinting at actual evoloution don&#8217;t you?  Not the sort that sees dura ace become di2 but actual evoloution.   This is tant amount to herasy in some parts of this country.  ( not the PNW where it sems many enlightened people live..i hasten to add).</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 01:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none;color: #606060&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188081&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Rob&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188081&quot;&gt; But more awesome was the 6 1/2 kilos of felt vs my 9 1/2 kilo 30 year old.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Even when the tech is to make stuff lighter, the tech has to be slowed down by 70 grams here;

&lt;img src=&quot;http://velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/sthilzy/2013.05.28.00.52.36/1/Canyon_heavier.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;
I read somewhere a while a go that the UCI regulations on minimum weight was there to make sure the bikes are of solid, &#039;safe&#039; build. The above pic throws out that theory.]]></description>
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<blockquote cite="#commentbody-188081"><p> But more awesome was the 6 1/2 kilos of felt vs my 9 1/2 kilo 30 year old.</p></blockquote>
<p>Even when the tech is to make stuff lighter, the tech has to be slowed down by 70 grams here;</p>
<p><img src="http://velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/sthilzy/2013.05.28.00.52.36/1/Canyon_heavier.jpg" alt="" /><br />
I read somewhere a while a go that the UCI regulations on minimum weight was there to make sure the bikes are of solid, &#8216;safe&#8217; build. The above pic throws out that theory.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 00:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188081&quot;&gt;
This whole electric it&#039;s good/ bad reminds me of clipless vs. toe clips and straps. I loved old school pedals and straps but I would never go back (maybe on the track?). I ride an old Bianchi with down tube shifters and she&#039;s just fine for all my regular needs. Last summer I demo-ed a Felt with electronic shifting and as expected the shifting was awesome! But more awesome was the 6 1/2 kilos of felt vs my 9 1/2 kilo 30 year old.

Bottom line when all this stuff costs less than a used car or I get sponsored by Viagra to ride the masters worlds I am happy to lug along and watch the Felts and Storcks from the back of the pace line.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188081" rel="nofollow">@Rob</a></p>
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This whole electric it&#8217;s good/ bad reminds me of clipless vs. toe clips and straps. I loved old school pedals and straps but I would never go back (maybe on the track?). I ride an old Bianchi with down tube shifters and she&#8217;s just fine for all my regular needs. Last summer I demo-ed a Felt with electronic shifting and as expected the shifting was awesome! But more awesome was the 6 1/2 kilos of felt vs my 9 1/2 kilo 30 year old.</p>
<p>Bottom line when all this stuff costs less than a used car or I get sponsored by Viagra to ride the masters worlds I am happy to lug along and watch the Felts and Storcks from the back of the pace line.</p>
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<p>You are my hero. +1 badge to you.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 00:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188031&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Deakus&lt;/a&gt;

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&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188029&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Beers&lt;/a&gt;

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&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187932&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Giles&lt;/a&gt;

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Disk brakes are just wrong on a road bike.

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They would be fucking WIN on a rain bike though! Those few seconds pumping the water off the rim before the pads work clenches my buttocks everytime...

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Aha..but that puts you on carbon rims surely?....those of us on alu rims suffer less...

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I use rain blocks and they are great; my carbon rims brake better in all circumstances than alu, but they go after brake pads like a fat guy at an all-you-can-eat buffet.

&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188057&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Marcus&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-188057&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188055&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@paolo&lt;/a&gt; You are most probably right - however if i could fuck myself I could probaby also kid myself into thinking that i was really good.

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Disk brakes are just wrong on a road bike.</p>
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<p>They would be fucking WIN on a rain bike though! Those few seconds pumping the water off the rim before the pads work clenches my buttocks everytime&#8230;</p>
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<p>Aha..but that puts you on carbon rims surely?&#8230;.those of us on alu rims suffer less&#8230;</p>
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<p>I use rain blocks and they are great; my carbon rims brake better in all circumstances than alu, but they go after brake pads like a fat guy at an all-you-can-eat buffet.</p>
<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188057" rel="nofollow">@Marcus</a></p>
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<a class="vm_anchor" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-188055" rel="nofollow">@paolo</a> You are most probably right &#8211; however if i could fuck myself I could probaby also kid myself into thinking that i was really good.</p>
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<p>The question is, would you also fake your own orgasms?</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 00:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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You look like a fanny with that pink shirt. Don&#039;t let the guys on the rig see you in that.]]></description>
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<p>You look like a fanny with that pink shirt. Don&#8217;t let the guys on the rig see you in that.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 00:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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I&#039;m still working on moving all the bikes to 10-s. Then I&#039;ll have to take it to 11 before I even consider electronic. Thus, I have plenty of time for the engineers and everyone else to continue riding it before I even need to think about trying out an electronic Gruppo.

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I cant imagine going to 11 spd as it is bad enough wearing out the 10 spd chain every 1500km !

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+1. Visiting the mountains of Gran Canaria this summer and hiring a bike, Cannondale, 10 speed mechanical shifting. However. I do intend to hire a Di2 dura ace equipped machine for a couple days just to see what all the fuss on electronic shifting is. Can&#039;t see me buying it anytime soon though, wife and kids to feed and clothe and its no gonna make me any faster than some real training would. No question its seen as Gucci kit, there&#039;s plenty of that in the sport but that&#039;s primarily the domain of those with plenty of free cash. Jury out til jury wins the lotto.

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Honestly, choosing wheels is like choosing the character for your bike that day...I love being able to swap between machines. For that reason alone, I&#039;ll be buying up as much 10spd Campa as I can manage just to resist the investment of buying 11spd for all those bikes.

Besides, having ridden Mektronic killed my love of electronic shifting, though I&#039;m given to understand Mavic Zap! was pretty good. Mektronic made  me vow to always keep a cable between my hand and my rear mech.]]></description>
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I&#8217;m still working on moving all the bikes to 10-s. Then I&#8217;ll have to take it to 11 before I even consider electronic. Thus, I have plenty of time for the engineers and everyone else to continue riding it before I even need to think about trying out an electronic <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#Gruppo">Gruppo</a>.</p>
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<p>I cant imagine going to 11 spd as it is bad enough wearing out the 10 spd chain every 1500km !</p>
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<p>+1. Visiting the mountains of Gran Canaria this summer and hiring a bike, Cannondale, 10 speed mechanical shifting. However. I do intend to hire a Di2 dura ace equipped machine for a couple days just to see what all the fuss on electronic shifting is. Can&#8217;t see me buying it anytime soon though, wife and kids to feed and clothe and its no gonna make me any faster than some real training would. No question its seen as Gucci kit, there&#8217;s plenty of that in the sport but that&#8217;s primarily the domain of those with plenty of free cash. Jury out til jury wins the lotto.</p>
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<p>Honestly, choosing wheels is like choosing the character for your bike that day&#8230;I love being able to swap between machines. For that reason alone, I&#8217;ll be buying up as much 10spd Campa as I can manage just to resist the investment of buying 11spd for all those bikes.</p>
<p>Besides, having ridden Mektronic killed my love of electronic shifting, though I&#8217;m given to understand Mavic Zap! was pretty good. Mektronic made  me vow to always keep a cable between my hand and my rear mech.</p>
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		By: frank		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 00:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187970&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Erik&lt;/a&gt;

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Is it just me, or did Vincenzo Nibali win a Barbie Dream House throne?

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What is it with the fucking thrones? Its a worse trend than baseball caps on the podium.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2013.05.28.00.00.16/1/Bradley-Wiggins-relaxes-i-001.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;]]></description>
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<a class="vm_linkablecontent" href="javascript:vm_DisplayContent('http%3A%2F%2Fvelominati.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Freaders%2FErik%2F2013.05.27.15.38.27%2F1%2Ffinale650.jpg', '');" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/plugins/dm-albums/php/image.php?degrees=0&amp;scale=yes&amp;width=600&amp;height=700&amp;quality=85&amp;maintain_aspect=yes&amp;rounding=nearest&amp;image=/home/frankdstrack/velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/Erik/2013.05.27.15.38.27/1/finale650.jpg" alt="" /></a><br />
Is it just me, or did Vincenzo Nibali win a Barbie Dream House throne?</p>
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<p>What is it with the fucking thrones? Its a worse trend than baseball caps on the podium.</p>
<p><img src="http://velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/frank/2013.05.28.00.00.16/1/Bradley-Wiggins-relaxes-i-001.jpg" alt="" /></p>
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		By: strathlubnaig		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 00:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188081&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Rob&lt;/a&gt; I guess it will only be a matter of time though, after all not so long ago only high end cars came with ABS brakes, and I still recall the novelty of autolock seat belts in cars.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188081" rel="nofollow">@Rob</a> I guess it will only be a matter of time though, after all not so long ago only high end cars came with ABS brakes, and I still recall the novelty of autolock seat belts in cars.</p>
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		By: frank		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 00:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187948&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@mouse&lt;/a&gt;

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I will never suggest to any living person that they sign into this bullshitnblog, run by self-opinionated morons who seem intent on rubbishing anything that could take them out if the dark ages. Fuck yourselves silly

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That raises an interesting question - would you suggest fucking ourselves with our own cocks or an electric vibrator ?

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Hey Frank. I think you need to change the tag line for the website to DocBrian&#039;s prescient description.

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RIght, &quot;Velominati, Self-Opinionated Silly Self-Fuckers&quot;, stand by for a site update.

I&#039;ve been on holiday a few days and am amazed to find this out about myself. Particularly since the good Doc appears to be better with a scalpel than his spell checker as I had a job of it sorting out what he&#039;d said. And, the people he appears to have a beef with don&#039;t run the site. He attention to detail mirrors his opinion of electronic shifting.

All things being equal, if electronic shifting gets Minion, ChrisO, and Marcus (and me, from the sidelines) agreeing, well, I&#039;d have thrown him out for it if he&#039;d not (apparently) left on his own. Not to mention for calling this place a &quot;blog&quot; - I&#039;ve never been so insulted in my life.]]></description>
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<a class="vm_anchor" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-187887" rel="nofollow">@ChrisO</a></p>
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I will never suggest to any living person that they sign into this bullshitnblog, run by self-opinionated morons who seem intent on rubbishing anything that could take them out if the dark ages. Fuck yourselves silly</p>
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<p>That raises an interesting question &#8211; would you suggest fucking ourselves with our own cocks or an electric vibrator ?</p>
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<p>Hey Frank. I think you need to change the tag line for the website to DocBrian&#8217;s prescient description.</p>
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<p>RIght, &#8220;Velominati, Self-Opinionated Silly Self-Fuckers&#8221;, stand by for a site update.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been on holiday a few days and am amazed to find this out about myself. Particularly since the good Doc appears to be better with a scalpel than his spell checker as I had a job of it sorting out what he&#8217;d said. And, the people he appears to have a beef with don&#8217;t run the site. He attention to detail mirrors his opinion of electronic shifting.</p>
<p>All things being equal, if electronic shifting gets Minion, ChrisO, and Marcus (and me, from the sidelines) agreeing, well, I&#8217;d have thrown him out for it if he&#8217;d not (apparently) left on his own. Not to mention for calling this place a &#8220;blog&#8221; &#8211; I&#8217;ve never been so insulted in my life.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 00:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none;color: #606060&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187932&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Giles&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-187932&quot;&gt;Disk brakes are just wrong on a road bike.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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<blockquote cite="#commentbody-187932"><p>Disk brakes are just wrong on a road bike.</p></blockquote>
<p><img src="http://velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/sthilzy/2013.05.28.00.27.32/1/Brake Etiquette.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Saw this somewhere, and oh so true.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 00:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This whole electric it&#039;s good/ bad reminds me of clipless vs. toe clips and straps. I loved old school pedals and straps but I would never go back (maybe on the track?). I ride an old Bianchi with down tube shifters and she&#039;s just fine for all my regular needs. Last summer I demo-ed a Felt with electronic shifting and as expected the shifting was awesome! But more awesome was the 6 1/2 kilos of felt vs my 9 1/2 kilo 30 year old.

Bottom line when all this stuff costs less than a used car or I get sponsored by Viagra to ride the masters worlds I am happy to lug along and watch the Felts and Storcks from the back of the pace line.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole electric it&#8217;s good/ bad reminds me of clipless vs. toe clips and straps. I loved old school pedals and straps but I would never go back (maybe on the track?). I ride an old Bianchi with down tube shifters and she&#8217;s just fine for all my regular needs. Last summer I demo-ed a Felt with electronic shifting and as expected the shifting was awesome! But more awesome was the 6 1/2 kilos of felt vs my 9 1/2 kilo 30 year old.</p>
<p>Bottom line when all this stuff costs less than a used car or I get sponsored by Viagra to ride the masters worlds I am happy to lug along and watch the Felts and Storcks from the back of the pace line.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 00:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-188050&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@paolo&lt;/a&gt; csr11 shouldnt take but a few minutes to tune.  once the cables are stretched, you&#039;re golden.  if you have internal routing it takes a few rides, but if it is external put on some leather gloves and pull baby pull.

put in big ring, small cog.  attach cable to rear mech with tension and screw.  run up and down the cassette and make tension adjustment for 6th cog.  like buttah]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-188050" rel="nofollow">@paolo</a> csr11 shouldnt take but a few minutes to tune.  once the cables are stretched, you&#8217;re golden.  if you have internal routing it takes a few rides, but if it is external put on some leather gloves and pull baby pull.</p>
<p>put in big ring, small cog.  attach cable to rear mech with tension and screw.  run up and down the cassette and make tension adjustment for 6th cog.  like buttah</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 00:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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I wonder if Amoebas tell each other to go fuck themselves?

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Where do you suppose we get it?]]></description>
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I wonder if Amoebas tell each other to go fuck themselves?</p>
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<p>Where do you suppose we get it?</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 23:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188033&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@the Engine&lt;/a&gt;

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&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188009&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@DerHoggz&lt;/a&gt;

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&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187951&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@strathlubnaig&lt;/a&gt;

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I&#039;m still working on moving all the bikes to 10-s. Then I&#039;ll have to take it to 11 before I even consider electronic. Thus, I have plenty of time for the engineers and everyone else to continue riding it before I even need to think about trying out an electronic Gruppo.

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I cant imagine going to 11 spd as it is bad enough wearing out the 10 spd chain every 1500km !

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You are doing something terribly wrong, newer chains last a lot longer than the old ones.

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Dunno - our roads are covered in a sort of grinding paste that gets everywhere especially in the wet - 1500kms is not far off my average and I&#039;m cleaning the damn thing constantly. It could be the wattage from our mighty guns causing the chains to wimp out of course...

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I dont think I am doing anything &#039;terribly wrong&#039; at all. I just ride the bike at a decent pace and check the chain stretch. When it hits &#039;1&#039; I change the damn thing, otherwise I woill wear out all the other more expensive bits. 1500km seems to be the average figure before I need to really monitor things and think about swapping it out. As @The Engine says, our roads are shite and our weather is generally shitier, and we have a lot of hills. PM is the way to go.]]></description>
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I&#8217;m still working on moving all the bikes to 10-s. Then I&#8217;ll have to take it to 11 before I even consider electronic. Thus, I have plenty of time for the engineers and everyone else to continue riding it before I even need to think about trying out an electronic <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#Gruppo">Gruppo</a>.</p>
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<p>I cant imagine going to 11 spd as it is bad enough wearing out the 10 spd chain every 1500km !</p>
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<p>You are doing something terribly wrong, newer chains last a lot longer than the old ones.</p>
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<p>Dunno &#8211; our roads are covered in a sort of grinding paste that gets everywhere especially in the wet &#8211; 1500kms is not far off my average and I&#8217;m cleaning the damn thing constantly. It could be the wattage from our mighty guns causing the chains to wimp out of course&#8230;</p>
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<p>I dont think I am doing anything &#8216;terribly wrong&#8217; at all. I just ride the bike at a decent pace and check the chain stretch. When it hits &#8216;1&#8217; I change the damn thing, otherwise I woill wear out all the other more expensive bits. 1500km seems to be the average figure before I need to really monitor things and think about swapping it out. As @The Engine says, our roads are shite and our weather is generally shitier, and we have a lot of hills. PM is the way to go.</p>
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		By: Bianchi Denti		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 23:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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I wonder if Amoebas tell each other to go fuck themselves?

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I wonder if Amoebas tell each other to go fuck themselves?</p>
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<p>Woh! You just blew my mind!</p>
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		By: Smithers		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 23:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-187960&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@scaler911&lt;/a&gt;

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&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-187882&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@DocBrian&lt;/a&gt;

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I will never suggest to any living person that they sign into this bullshitnblog, run by self-opinionated morons who seem intent on rubbishing anything that could take them out if the dark ages. Fuck yourselves silly

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Funny how when people give an opinion around here, and don&#039;t like getting criticism back, it&#039;s like the end of the world. Personally, I could give a fuck wether Elect works better than Mech systems. As someone above stated, it adds $1000 (at least) to the price. Pushing a button, vs flexing my wrist 4 inches doesn&#039;t seem worth the $$. And while they may shift perfect every time, again, 45seconds at the rear barrel adjuster, once after the cables stretch, seems like no big thing to me. I&#039;ve test driven Di2, and it&#039;s nice, but I like the &lt;em&gt;feel &lt;/em&gt;of mech shifters.

My 2 pence.

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This.

I am a fan of both - but given the choice today it&#039;s mech because I prefer the sensations - I prefer the look of mech set up; I prefer the feel of mech shifting - the visceral tactility and connectedness of a confident mech shift; and as important the sound : I find the high pitched whine of elec front derailleur disconcerting - much prefer the satisfying thunk engagement of mech shift.

Its all about personal preference and we are splitting 1st world hairs over this - but elec does de-sensitise the bike another degree like carbon over steel anaethetises the road just that little bit more than I like.

But really - what a problem to have. Poor us.]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-187882" rel="nofollow">@DocBrian</a></p>
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I will never suggest to any living person that they sign into this bullshitnblog, run by self-opinionated morons who seem intent on rubbishing anything that could take them out if the dark ages. Fuck yourselves silly</p>
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<p>Funny how when people give an opinion around here, and don&#8217;t like getting criticism back, it&#8217;s like the end of the world. Personally, I could give a fuck wether Elect works better than Mech systems. As someone above stated, it adds $1000 (at least) to the price. Pushing a button, vs flexing my wrist 4 inches doesn&#8217;t seem worth the $$. And while they may shift perfect every time, again, 45seconds at the rear barrel adjuster, once after the cables stretch, seems like no big thing to me. I&#8217;ve test driven Di2, and it&#8217;s nice, but I like the <em>feel </em>of mech shifters.</p>
<p>My 2 pence.</p>
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<p>This.</p>
<p>I am a fan of both &#8211; but given the choice today it&#8217;s mech because I prefer the sensations &#8211; I prefer the look of mech set up; I prefer the feel of mech shifting &#8211; the visceral tactility and connectedness of a confident mech shift; and as important the sound : I find the high pitched whine of elec front derailleur disconcerting &#8211; much prefer the satisfying thunk engagement of mech shift.</p>
<p>Its all about personal preference and we are splitting 1st world hairs over this &#8211; but elec does de-sensitise the bike another degree like carbon over steel anaethetises the road just that little bit more than I like.</p>
<p>But really &#8211; what a problem to have. Poor us.</p>
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		By: HeinrichHausslersHairstyle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 22:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: HeinrichHausslersHairstyle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 22:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188050&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@paolo&lt;/a&gt; valid points indeed. for me di2 is new, shiny and good. Like the first time I got carbon clinchers, a carbon frame or sti. It adds to the ride not detracts. Doesn&#039;t mean non-users are Luddites, just different perspectives on what makes a ride quality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188050" rel="nofollow">@paolo</a> valid points indeed. for me di2 is new, shiny and good. Like the first time I got carbon clinchers, a carbon frame or sti. It adds to the ride not detracts. Doesn&#8217;t mean non-users are Luddites, just different perspectives on what makes a ride quality.</p>
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		By: paolo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paolo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 22:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 22:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-188055&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@paolo&lt;/a&gt; You are most probably right - however if i could fuck myself I could probaby also kid myself into thinking that i was really good.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-188055" rel="nofollow">@paolo</a> You are most probably right &#8211; however if i could fuck myself I could probaby also kid myself into thinking that i was really good.</p>
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		By: paolo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paolo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 22:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none;color: #606060&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187888&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Marcus&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-187888&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; href=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/velominati-super-prestige/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/#comment-187882&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@DocBrian&lt;/a&gt; suit yourself champ. But all that has happened here is that you have made an outlandish statement that you have not been able to back up.

If only I could fuck myself silly- &lt;strong&gt;I would never stop&lt;/strong&gt;.

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You say that now but my guess is that after two minutes you&#039;d be a bitter dissapointment to yourself!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none;color: #606060" href="#comment-187888" rel="nofollow">@Marcus</a></p>
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<a class="vm_anchor" href="http://www.velominati.com/velominati-super-prestige/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/#comment-187882" rel="nofollow">@DocBrian</a> suit yourself champ. But all that has happened here is that you have made an outlandish statement that you have not been able to back up.</p>
<p>If only I could fuck myself silly- <strong>I would never stop</strong>.</p>
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<p>You say that now but my guess is that after two minutes you&#8217;d be a bitter dissapointment to yourself!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paolo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 22:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none;color: #606060&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187882&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@DocBrian&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-187882&quot;&gt;
I will never suggest to any living person that they sign into this bullshitnblog, run by self-opinionated morons who seem intent on rubbishing anything that could take them out if the dark ages. Fuck yourselves silly

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I think you need to get a grip and have a word with yourself. As far as for the self opinionated morons you are in disagreement with, as far as I can see, none of them run this site.  They just come for entertainment same as me and you.    Self opinionated is redundant by the way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none;color: #606060" href="#comment-187882" rel="nofollow">@DocBrian</a></p>
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I will never suggest to any living person that they sign into this bullshitnblog, run by self-opinionated morons who seem intent on rubbishing anything that could take them out if the dark ages. Fuck yourselves silly</p>
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<p>I think you need to get a grip and have a word with yourself. As far as for the self opinionated morons you are in disagreement with, as far as I can see, none of them run this site.  They just come for entertainment same as me and you.    Self opinionated is redundant by the way.</p>
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		By: paolo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paolo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 22:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none;color: #606060&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187823&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@HeinrichHausslersHairstyle&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-187823&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;color: #606060;text-decoration: none&quot; href=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/velominati-super-prestige/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/#comment-187564&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ChrisO&lt;/a&gt; I&#039;ve been using di2 for about 8 months. 100% reliable and the comparison of time needed to be spent on maintenance compared to mechanical is stark. Apart from a monthly recharge, done more as precaution than need, there is zero necessity to tune etc so the gears work perfect every time, reaffirming Velominati rule of silence.

The only thing I&#039;ve noticed is that after training on it for 8 months on rides requiring little gear changes; when I raced at Port Macquarie recently on a hilly course requiring numerous gear changes I woke up the next day with a sore wrist! The di2 has made changing gears so easy my formerly muscular wrist area had withered into an insipid lacklustre tool.

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Here, in my opinion are two great reasons to not go the electric route.  The second reason speaks for itself. Who wants limp wrists?  The first, well the only thing I like about cycling more than riding my bike and spending time in my lbs looking at shiney new stuff or awesome kit is being out in my gagrage and cleaning and tinkering and tuning my bike. Usually with a decent beverage. If I didn&#039;t have to tune it what would I do? I get a real sense of satisfaction out on the road when the bike is silent and shifts perfectly...I made it do that.

Actually there&#039;s a good third reason and that&#039;s that elecy will make you a poorer rider surely?  I know enough people who already wait too long to shift gear on a climb...crucn crunch ping...know what I mean?  From what I understand on di2 etc you can change under load any time you like.  It&#039;s like using super wide super side cut skis. Any fool can do it, Where&#039;s the skill or art in that?  

I&#039;m sticking with my Sram red 10s now but my next build will be campy super record 11s mechanical and I look forward to lots of hours tuning it and giving it love and attetnion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none;color: #606060" href="#comment-187823" rel="nofollow">@HeinrichHausslersHairstyle</a></p>
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<a class="vm_anchor" style="color: #606060;text-decoration: none" href="http://www.velominati.com/velominati-super-prestige/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/#comment-187564" rel="nofollow">@ChrisO</a> I&#8217;ve been using di2 for about 8 months. 100% reliable and the comparison of time needed to be spent on maintenance compared to mechanical is stark. Apart from a monthly recharge, done more as precaution than need, there is zero necessity to tune etc so the gears work perfect every time, reaffirming Velominati rule of silence.</p>
<p>The only thing I&#8217;ve noticed is that after training on it for 8 months on rides requiring little gear changes; when I raced at Port Macquarie recently on a hilly course requiring numerous gear changes I woke up the next day with a sore wrist! The di2 has made changing gears so easy my formerly muscular wrist area had withered into an insipid lacklustre tool.</p>
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<p>Here, in my opinion are two great reasons to not go the electric route.  The second reason speaks for itself. Who wants limp wrists?  The first, well the only thing I like about cycling more than riding my bike and spending time in my lbs looking at shiney new stuff or awesome kit is being out in my gagrage and cleaning and tinkering and tuning my bike. Usually with a decent beverage. If I didn&#8217;t have to tune it what would I do? I get a real sense of satisfaction out on the road when the bike is silent and shifts perfectly&#8230;I made it do that.</p>
<p>Actually there&#8217;s a good third reason and that&#8217;s that elecy will make you a poorer rider surely?  I know enough people who already wait too long to shift gear on a climb&#8230;crucn crunch ping&#8230;know what I mean?  From what I understand on di2 etc you can change under load any time you like.  It&#8217;s like using super wide super side cut skis. Any fool can do it, Where&#8217;s the skill or art in that?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sticking with my Sram red 10s now but my next build will be campy super record 11s mechanical and I look forward to lots of hours tuning it and giving it love and attetnion.</p>
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		By: RedRanger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RedRanger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 21:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188033&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@the Engine&lt;/a&gt; what are you using for chain lube?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188033" rel="nofollow">@the Engine</a> what are you using for chain lube?</p>
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		By: the Engine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[the Engine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 20:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187951&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@strathlubnaig&lt;/a&gt;

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&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187921&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Ron&lt;/a&gt;

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I&#039;m still working on moving all the bikes to 10-s. Then I&#039;ll have to take it to 11 before I even consider electronic. Thus, I have plenty of time for the engineers and everyone else to continue riding it before I even need to think about trying out an electronic Gruppo.

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I cant imagine going to 11 spd as it is bad enough wearing out the 10 spd chain every 1500km !

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You are doing something terribly wrong, newer chains last a lot longer than the old ones.

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Dunno - our roads are covered in a sort of grinding paste that gets everywhere especially in the wet - 1500kms is not far off my average and I&#039;m cleaning the damn thing constantly. It could be the wattage from our mighty guns causing the chains to wimp out of course...]]></description>
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I&#8217;m still working on moving all the bikes to 10-s. Then I&#8217;ll have to take it to 11 before I even consider electronic. Thus, I have plenty of time for the engineers and everyone else to continue riding it before I even need to think about trying out an electronic <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#Gruppo">Gruppo</a>.</p>
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<p>I cant imagine going to 11 spd as it is bad enough wearing out the 10 spd chain every 1500km !</p>
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<p>You are doing something terribly wrong, newer chains last a lot longer than the old ones.</p>
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<p>Dunno &#8211; our roads are covered in a sort of grinding paste that gets everywhere especially in the wet &#8211; 1500kms is not far off my average and I&#8217;m cleaning the damn thing constantly. It could be the wattage from our mighty guns causing the chains to wimp out of course&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deakus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 20:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187932&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Giles&lt;/a&gt;

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Disk brakes are just wrong on a road bike.

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They would be fucking WIN on a rain bike though! Those few seconds pumping the water off the rim before the pads work clenches my buttocks everytime...

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Aha..but that puts you on carbon rims surely?....those of us on alu rims suffer less...]]></description>
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Disk brakes are just wrong on a road bike.</p>
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<p>They would be fucking WIN on a rain bike though! Those few seconds pumping the water off the rim before the pads work clenches my buttocks everytime&#8230;</p>
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<p>Aha..but that puts you on carbon rims surely?&#8230;.those of us on alu rims suffer less&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 20:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-187932&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Giles&lt;/a&gt;

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 Disk brakes are just wrong on a road bike.

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They would be fucking WIN on a rain bike though! Those few seconds pumping the water off the rim before the pads work clenches my buttocks everytime...]]></description>
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 Disk brakes are just wrong on a road bike.</p>
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<p>They would be fucking WIN on a rain bike though! Those few seconds pumping the water off the rim before the pads work clenches my buttocks everytime&#8230;</p>
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		By: Bianchi Denti		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bianchi Denti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 19:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none;color: #606060&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187882&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@DocBrian&lt;/a&gt;

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I will never suggest to any living person that they sign into this bullshitnblog, run by self-opinionated morons who seem intent on rubbishing anything that could take them out if the dark ages. Fuck yourselves silly

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Yeah, I hate self-opinionated people. Especially those who get offended when others dare to have a differing opinion. I mean, what&#039;s up with that?

Why would you only tell living people to stay away from us? Got something against corpses?

Where do you stand on zombies - as they are the living dead, would you say yay or nay?]]></description>
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I will never suggest to any living person that they sign into this bullshitnblog, run by self-opinionated morons who seem intent on rubbishing anything that could take them out if the dark ages. Fuck yourselves silly</p>
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<p>Yeah, I hate self-opinionated people. Especially those who get offended when others dare to have a differing opinion. I mean, what&#8217;s up with that?</p>
<p>Why would you only tell living people to stay away from us? Got something against corpses?</p>
<p>Where do you stand on zombies &#8211; as they are the living dead, would you say yay or nay?</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 18:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-188016&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@graham d.m.&lt;/a&gt; Agreed, I got plenty of weight to lose on my end. and I think you cant go wrong with Ultegra mechanical.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-188016" rel="nofollow">@graham d.m.</a> Agreed, I got plenty of weight to lose on my end. and I think you cant go wrong with Ultegra mechanical.</p>
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		By: graham d.m.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 18:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe I&#039;ll go electronic when it trickles down to 105 level.  I dont know, man. I love nice stuff, but seriously the 105/Rival/Centaur type tier of stuff works so well in my limited experience.  I&#039;m fat so saving a pound or so on 105 vs DA isn&#039;t worth it and I believe that when tuned right it all works pretty well and doesn&#039;t make you go faster.....now some carbon wheel/light wheels on the other hand, that&#039;s where I&#039;d blow my load.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;ll go electronic when it trickles down to 105 level.  I dont know, man. I love nice stuff, but seriously the 105/Rival/Centaur type tier of stuff works so well in my limited experience.  I&#8217;m fat so saving a pound or so on 105 vs DA isn&#8217;t worth it and I believe that when tuned right it all works pretty well and doesn&#8217;t make you go faster&#8230;..now some carbon wheel/light wheels on the other hand, that&#8217;s where I&#8217;d blow my load.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 18:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-187951&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@strathlubnaig&lt;/a&gt;

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&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-187921&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Ron&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-187921&quot;&gt;
I&#039;m still working on moving all the bikes to 10-s. Then I&#039;ll have to take it to 11 before I even consider electronic. Thus, I have plenty of time for the engineers and everyone else to continue riding it before I even need to think about trying out an electronic Gruppo.

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I cant imagine going to 11 spd as it is bad enough wearing out the 10 spd chain every 1500km !

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You are doing something terribly wrong, newer chains last a lot longer than the old ones.]]></description>
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<a href="#comment-187921" rel="nofollow">@Ron</a></p>
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I&#8217;m still working on moving all the bikes to 10-s. Then I&#8217;ll have to take it to 11 before I even consider electronic. Thus, I have plenty of time for the engineers and everyone else to continue riding it before I even need to think about trying out an electronic <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#Gruppo">Gruppo</a>.</p>
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<p>I cant imagine going to 11 spd as it is bad enough wearing out the 10 spd chain every 1500km !</p>
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<p>You are doing something terribly wrong, newer chains last a lot longer than the old ones.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 18:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-187995&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@JohnB&lt;/a&gt;

Where are you riding in GC?

The climb up from Mogan to 2/3 way up is one of the best climbs anywhere - bit shitty on up to the top of the mountain after that, but glorious up to that point, and what a descent! 10/10 - mind you, it&#039;s in a sheltered gully, so make sure you have plenty of water and and ice maker on your top tube, coz it&#039;s gonna be frikking hot in the summer

&lt;a href=&quot;http://app.strava.com/segments/843156&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://app.strava.com/segments/843156&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Where are you riding in GC?</p>
<p>The climb up from Mogan to 2/3 way up is one of the best climbs anywhere &#8211; bit shitty on up to the top of the mountain after that, but glorious up to that point, and what a descent! 10/10 &#8211; mind you, it&#8217;s in a sheltered gully, so make sure you have plenty of water and and ice maker on your top tube, coz it&#8217;s gonna be frikking hot in the summer</p>
<p><a href="http://app.strava.com/segments/843156" rel="nofollow">http://app.strava.com/segments/843156</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 17:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187951&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@strathlubnaig&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-187951&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187921&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Ron&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-187921&quot;&gt;
I&#039;m still working on moving all the bikes to 10-s. Then I&#039;ll have to take it to 11 before I even consider electronic. Thus, I have plenty of time for the engineers and everyone else to continue riding it before I even need to think about trying out an electronic Gruppo.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I cant imagine going to 11 spd as it is bad enough wearing out the 10 spd chain every 1500km !

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
+1. Visiting the mountains of Gran Canaria this summer and hiring a bike, Cannondale, 10 speed mechanical shifting. However. I do intend to hire a Di2 dura ace equipped machine for a couple days just to see what all the fuss on electronic shifting is. Can&#039;t see me buying it anytime soon though, wife and kids to feed and clothe and its no gonna make me any faster than some real training would. No question its seen as Gucci kit, there&#039;s plenty of that in the sport but that&#039;s primarily the domain of those with plenty of free cash. Jury out til jury wins the lotto.]]></description>
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<a class="vm_anchor" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-187921" rel="nofollow">@Ron</a></p>
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I&#8217;m still working on moving all the bikes to 10-s. Then I&#8217;ll have to take it to 11 before I even consider electronic. Thus, I have plenty of time for the engineers and everyone else to continue riding it before I even need to think about trying out an electronic <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#Gruppo">Gruppo</a>.</p>
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<p>I cant imagine going to 11 spd as it is bad enough wearing out the 10 spd chain every 1500km !</p>
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<p>+1. Visiting the mountains of Gran Canaria this summer and hiring a bike, Cannondale, 10 speed mechanical shifting. However. I do intend to hire a Di2 dura ace equipped machine for a couple days just to see what all the fuss on electronic shifting is. Can&#8217;t see me buying it anytime soon though, wife and kids to feed and clothe and its no gonna make me any faster than some real training would. No question its seen as Gucci kit, there&#8217;s plenty of that in the sport but that&#8217;s primarily the domain of those with plenty of free cash. Jury out til jury wins the lotto.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 16:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none;color: #606060&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187970&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Erik&lt;/a&gt;

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&lt;a class=&quot;vm_linkablecontent&quot; href=&quot;vm_DisplayContent(&#039;http%3A%2F%2Fvelominati.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Freaders%2FErik%2F2013.05.27.15.38.27%2F1%2Ffinale650.jpg&#039;, &#039;&#039;);&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/plugins/dm-albums/php/image.php?degrees=0&#038;scale=yes&#038;width=600&#038;height=700&#038;quality=85&#038;maintain_aspect=yes&#038;rounding=nearest&#038;image=/home/frankdstrack/velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/Erik/2013.05.27.15.38.27/1/finale650.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
Is it just me, or did Vincenzo Nibali win a Barbie Dream House throne?

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I was watching highlights with my 3 year old and she went into fits when she saw that chair: &quot;I have that chair, I have that chair! It&#039;s up in my dollhouse!&quot;]]></description>
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<a class="vm_linkablecontent" href="vm_DisplayContent('http%3A%2F%2Fvelominati.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Freaders%2FErik%2F2013.05.27.15.38.27%2F1%2Ffinale650.jpg', '');" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://www.velominati.com/wp-content/plugins/dm-albums/php/image.php?degrees=0&amp;scale=yes&amp;width=600&amp;height=700&amp;quality=85&amp;maintain_aspect=yes&amp;rounding=nearest&amp;image=/home/frankdstrack/velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/Erik/2013.05.27.15.38.27/1/finale650.jpg" alt="" /></a><br />
Is it just me, or did Vincenzo Nibali win a Barbie Dream House throne?</p>
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<p>I was watching highlights with my 3 year old and she went into fits when she saw that chair: &#8220;I have that chair, I have that chair! It&#8217;s up in my dollhouse!&#8221;</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RedRanger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 16:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187984&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@eenies&lt;/a&gt; That would be something]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-187984" rel="nofollow">@eenies</a> That would be something</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 16:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187949&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@mouse&lt;/a&gt;

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&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187914&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@HeinrichHausslersHairstyle&lt;/a&gt;

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&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187881&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ChrisO&lt;/a&gt; I&#039;ve got mechanical gears as well...on my tri-bike.

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Oh hey. And Haussler won a stage today.

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In that case, Andy to win the Tour?]]></description>
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<a class="vm_anchor" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-187881" rel="nofollow">@ChrisO</a> I&#8217;ve got mechanical gears as well&#8230;on my tri-bike.</p>
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<p>Oh hey. And Haussler won a stage today.</p>
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<p>In that case, Andy to win the Tour?</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 15:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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Is it just me, or did Vincenzo Nibali win a Barbie Dream House throne?</p>
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		By: RedRanger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RedRanger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 14:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187951&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@strathlubnaig&lt;/a&gt; congrats! Its a holiday weekend here in the US, so Im guessing the keepers are all out in the woods getting drunk. at least thats what I would do if I lived near woods.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-187951" rel="nofollow">@strathlubnaig</a> congrats! Its a holiday weekend here in the US, so Im guessing the keepers are all out in the woods getting drunk. at least thats what I would do if I lived near woods.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 14:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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I will never suggest to any living person that they sign into this bullshitnblog, run by self-opinionated morons who seem intent on rubbishing anything that could take them out if the dark ages. Fuck yourselves silly

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Funny how when people give an opinion around here, and don&#039;t like getting criticism back, it&#039;s like the end of the world. Personally, I could give a fuck wether Elect works better than Mech systems. As someone above stated, it adds $1000 (at least) to the price. Pushing a button, vs flexing my wrist 4 inches doesn&#039;t seem worth the $$. And while they may shift perfect every time, again, 45seconds at the rear barrel adjuster, once after the cables stretch, seems like no big thing to me. I&#039;ve test driven Di2, and it&#039;s nice, but I like the &lt;em&gt;feel &lt;/em&gt;of mech shifters.

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I will never suggest to any living person that they sign into this bullshitnblog, run by self-opinionated morons who seem intent on rubbishing anything that could take them out if the dark ages. Fuck yourselves silly</p>
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<p>Funny how when people give an opinion around here, and don&#8217;t like getting criticism back, it&#8217;s like the end of the world. Personally, I could give a fuck wether Elect works better than Mech systems. As someone above stated, it adds $1000 (at least) to the price. Pushing a button, vs flexing my wrist 4 inches doesn&#8217;t seem worth the $$. And while they may shift perfect every time, again, 45seconds at the rear barrel adjuster, once after the cables stretch, seems like no big thing to me. I&#8217;ve test driven Di2, and it&#8217;s nice, but I like the <em>feel </em>of mech shifters.</p>
<p>My 2 pence.</p>
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		By: strathlubnaig		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-19/#comment-187951</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 13:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187921&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Ron&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-187921&quot;&gt;
I&#039;m still working on moving all the bikes to 10-s. Then I&#039;ll have to take it to 11 before I even consider electronic. Thus, I have plenty of time for the engineers and everyone else to continue riding it before I even need to think about trying out an electronic Gruppo.

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I cant imagine going to 11 spd as it is bad enough wearing out the 10 spd chain every 1500km !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-187921" rel="nofollow">@Ron</a></p>
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I&#8217;m still working on moving all the bikes to 10-s. Then I&#8217;ll have to take it to 11 before I even consider electronic. Thus, I have plenty of time for the engineers and everyone else to continue riding it before I even need to think about trying out an electronic <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#Gruppo">Gruppo</a>.</p>
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<p>I cant imagine going to 11 spd as it is bad enough wearing out the 10 spd chain every 1500km !</p>
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		By: mouse		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-19/#comment-187949</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 13:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187914&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@HeinrichHausslersHairstyle&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-187914&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187881&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ChrisO&lt;/a&gt; I&#039;ve got mechanical gears as well...on my tri-bike.

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Oh hey. And Haussler won a stage today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-187914" rel="nofollow">@HeinrichHausslersHairstyle</a></p>
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<a class="vm_anchor" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-187881" rel="nofollow">@ChrisO</a> I&#8217;ve got mechanical gears as well&#8230;on my tri-bike.</p>
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<p>Oh hey. And Haussler won a stage today.</p>
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		By: mouse		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-19/#comment-187948</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 13:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187887&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ChrisO&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-187887&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187882&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@DocBrian&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-187882&quot;&gt;
I will never suggest to any living person that they sign into this bullshitnblog, run by self-opinionated morons who seem intent on rubbishing anything that could take them out if the dark ages. Fuck yourselves silly

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That raises an interesting question - would you suggest fucking ourselves with our own cocks or an electric vibrator ?

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Hey Frank. I think you need to change the tag line for the website to DocBrian&#039;s prescient description.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-187887" rel="nofollow">@ChrisO</a></p>
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<a class="vm_anchor" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-187882" rel="nofollow">@DocBrian</a></p>
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I will never suggest to any living person that they sign into this bullshitnblog, run by self-opinionated morons who seem intent on rubbishing anything that could take them out if the dark ages. Fuck yourselves silly</p>
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<p>That raises an interesting question &#8211; would you suggest fucking ourselves with our own cocks or an electric vibrator ?</p>
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<p>Hey Frank. I think you need to change the tag line for the website to DocBrian&#8217;s prescient description.</p>
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		By: Giles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 12:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Been out of favour with cycling for a while and became a bit of a velomivoyeur, got too fat to climb and all of it, but have finally rediscovered the wonder of it all and dragged myself out for a decent ride on Saturday and passed - while feeling &quot;I have good legs today&quot; - a Colnago C59 with EPS and .........disk brakes. Slowed and chatted to the guy about them, he was pretty happy with it but said the bike (and rims) felt heavier - just can&#039;t see myself going for either. Disk brakes are just wrong on a road bike.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been out of favour with cycling for a while and became a bit of a velomivoyeur, got <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#too fat to climb">too fat to climb</a> and all of it, but have finally rediscovered the wonder of it all and dragged myself out for a decent ride on Saturday and passed &#8211; while feeling &#8220;I have good legs today&#8221; &#8211; a Colnago C59 with EPS and &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;disk brakes. Slowed and chatted to the guy about them, he was pretty happy with it but said the bike (and rims) felt heavier &#8211; just can&#8217;t see myself going for either. Disk brakes are just wrong on a road bike.</p>
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		By: Ron		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-19/#comment-187921</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 10:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m still working on moving all the bikes to 10-s. Then I&#039;ll have to take it to 11 before I even consider electronic. Thus, I have plenty of time for the engineers and everyone else to continue riding it before I even need to think about trying out an electronic gruppo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still working on moving all the bikes to 10-s. Then I&#8217;ll have to take it to 11 before I even consider electronic. Thus, I have plenty of time for the engineers and everyone else to continue riding it before I even need to think about trying out an electronic <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#gruppo">gruppo</a>.</p>
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		By: HeinrichHausslersHairstyle		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-19/#comment-187914</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HeinrichHausslersHairstyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 10:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187881&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ChrisO&lt;/a&gt; I&#039;ve got mechanical gears as well...on my tri-bike.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-187881" rel="nofollow">@ChrisO</a> I&#8217;ve got mechanical gears as well&#8230;on my tri-bike.</p>
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		By: the Engine		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-19/#comment-187910</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[the Engine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 09:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187774&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@strathlubnaig&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-187774&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187771&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Gianni&lt;/a&gt; Thankyou for the Official Update from VSP Central HQ, Gianni. I shall bask for a time in the unexpected glory of my first grand tour victory and try to honour the jersey. Not sure I can do a GT double though.

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Chapeau.

The pink jersey fitted me very well when I wore it for a day at the start - as you know I&#039;m a prologue specialist and no good in the mountains although I Climb Well For My Weight.

What were the odds of the leader&#039;s jersey in an international competition being worn by two people from a village in the middle of nowhere? Is Callander the Bogota of the Velominati?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-187774" rel="nofollow">@strathlubnaig</a></p>
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<a class="vm_anchor" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-187771" rel="nofollow">@Gianni</a> Thankyou for the Official Update from VSP Central HQ, Gianni. I shall bask for a time in the unexpected glory of my first grand tour victory and try to honour the jersey. Not sure I can do a GT double though.</p>
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<p>Chapeau.</p>
<p>The pink jersey fitted me very well when I wore it for a day at the start &#8211; as you know I&#8217;m a prologue specialist and no good in the mountains although I <a href="https://www.velominati.com/the-lexicon/#Climb Well For My Weight">Climb Well For My Weight</a>.</p>
<p>What were the odds of the leader&#8217;s jersey in an international competition being worn by two people from a village in the middle of nowhere? Is Callander the Bogota of the Velominati?</p>
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		By: Russ		</title>
		<link>https://www.velominati.com/vsp/velominati-super-prestige-giro-ditalia-2013/comment-page-19/#comment-187904</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 09:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187774&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@strathlubnaig&lt;/a&gt;   Strong work on the VSP! chapeau .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-187774" rel="nofollow">@strathlubnaig</a>   Strong work on the VSP! chapeau .</p>
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		By: Russ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 09:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[okay who moved the 4th of July up, i tell ya i step away to take care of that job thing and  someone let the nukes go. i hate when i miss a party,

oh and for the record i&#039;m a mech kind of guy, i do not see the rational for ele, ( Snake oil in my book)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay who moved the 4th of July up, i tell ya i step away to take care of that job thing and  someone let the nukes go. i hate when i miss a party,</p>
<p>oh and for the record i&#8217;m a mech kind of guy, i do not see the rational for ele, ( Snake oil in my book)</p>
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		By: Deakus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deakus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 08:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187823&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@HeinrichHausslersHairstyle&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-187823&quot;&gt;
&lt;a class=&quot;vm_anchor&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; onclick=&quot;setTimeout(&#039;CheckForMissingComment();&#039;, 200);&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187564&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ChrisO&lt;/a&gt; I&#039;ve been using di2 for about 8 months. 100% reliable and the comparison of time needed to be spent on maintenance compared to mechanical is stark. Apart from a monthly recharge, done more as precaution than need, there is zero necessity to tune etc so the gears work perfect every time, reaffirming Velominati rule of silence.

The only thing I&#039;ve noticed is that after training on it for 8 months on rides requiring little gear changes; when I raced at Port Macquarie recently on a hilly course requiring numerous gear changes I woke up the next day with a sore wrist! The di2 has made changing gears so easy my formerly muscular wrist area had withered into an insipid lacklustre tool.

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You got to be careful......that limp wrist could get you in all sorts of trouble......(cue semicolon, cloe brackets! )]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-187823" rel="nofollow">@HeinrichHausslersHairstyle</a></p>
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<a class="vm_anchor" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" onclick="setTimeout('CheckForMissingComment();', 200);" href="#comment-187564" rel="nofollow">@ChrisO</a> I&#8217;ve been using di2 for about 8 months. 100% reliable and the comparison of time needed to be spent on maintenance compared to mechanical is stark. Apart from a monthly recharge, done more as precaution than need, there is zero necessity to tune etc so the gears work perfect every time, reaffirming Velominati rule of silence.</p>
<p>The only thing I&#8217;ve noticed is that after training on it for 8 months on rides requiring little gear changes; when I raced at Port Macquarie recently on a hilly course requiring numerous gear changes I woke up the next day with a sore wrist! The di2 has made changing gears so easy my formerly muscular wrist area had withered into an insipid lacklustre tool.</p>
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<p>You got to be careful&#8230;&#8230;that limp wrist could get you in all sorts of trouble&#8230;&#8230;(cue semicolon, cloe brackets! )</p>
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		By: ChrisO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ChrisO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 07:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;comment_response&quot; style=&quot;text-decoration: none; color: #606060;&quot; href=&quot;#comment-187889&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Marcus&lt;/a&gt; Certainly wasn&#039;t me. I have to draw the line somewhere.

Not so sure about Minion though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_response" style="text-decoration: none; color: #606060;" href="#comment-187889" rel="nofollow">@Marcus</a> Certainly wasn&#8217;t me. I have to draw the line somewhere.</p>
<p>Not so sure about Minion though.</p>
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