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Velominati Super Prestige: Giro D’Italia 2013

Velominati Super Prestige: Giro D’Italia 2013

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Twiggo is dreaming of a Giro-Tour double. He has sent out mixed messages about his Tour ambitions. Will he use the Giro as the ultimate Tour preparation or will be burn all his matches in May and hope he can find another pack for July? He has abandoned his successful 2012 Tour run-up strategy of winning every stage race he entered the previous spring. Now it’s the seclusion of Mount Doom of Tenerife, his coach and his watt meter his only competition. Team Sky is supporting Wig with a very strong squad, including superman, Kanstantsin Siutsou and with Cav no longer a teammate, it’s all the knights of the round table for Sir Twig.

Will the curse of the god-awful Astana kit continue to haunt non-Kazahk riders? Can Vincenzo’s Italian mojo overpower its powerful pale blue and yellow aura? Roman Kreuziger was finally able to win a big race once he shed that kit and pulled on one of Bjarne’s Saxo jerseys. Maybe it was more Bjarne and less jersey that made the difference.

Ryder gets no respect as the defending champion. His little dance at the end of Liége-Bastogne-Liége showed he is fit and ready for a fight. He can time trial, he can climb. Personally I have to back the local boy. And I always hate the overpowered, overwhelming favorite (read Team Sky here) in any race, unless that racer is Fabian Cancellara. No one can say Fabs has won a race this year surrounded with a team as strong as Sky’s. The Shack is just the Shack or a shack. Once Cancellara leaves for the Swiss “I AM” team, it’s lights out in the shack. Frandy, don’t forget to turn out ’em out when you leave.

If Cavendish wins the first day’s sprinter’s stage he will be in pink. He may be out of it after stage two, a team time trial.

But this is the Giro: crazy, unexpected, beautiful things can happen. The spinning wheels of fortuna are less predictable in Italy as they are in France in July. The betting window is now open. The complete start list is not yet available, an incomplete one is here and shall be updated soon. So sleep on your picks, wait for all the teams to make it official, unless you want to go with the obvious all Sky podium. The race begins Saturday so don’t Delgado away a Grand Tour opportunity.

Final Race Results
1. NIBALI Vincenzo
2. URAN URAN Rigoberto
3. EVANS Cadel
4. SCARPONI Michele
5. BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
Final VSP Results
1. strathlubnaig (32 points)
2. Donnie Bugno (32 points)
3. seemunkee (30 points)
4. Noel (30 points)
5. Alex (28 points)
6. San Tonio (28 points)
7. taon24 (27 points)
8. Chica (27 points)
9. mouse (26 points)
10. mbarston (26 points)
11. scaler911 (26 points)
12. Daccordi Rider (26 points)
13. Rigid (26 points)
14. MJ Moquin (26 points)
15. Smithers (25 points)
16. stickyjumper (25 points)
17. razmaspaz (23 points)
18. Nate (23 points)
19. Mike_P (23 points)
20. gladoe (23 points)
21. Don Amedo (23 points)
22. Dufferin Sportif (23 points)
23. Dino (23 points)
24. Blake (23 points)
25. il ciclista medio (23 points)
26. frank (23 points)
27. Mirko (23 points)
28. Russ (23 points)
29. dancollins (23 points)
30. Ron (23 points)
31. V-olcano (21 points)
32. Bianchi Denti (20 points)
33. Duende (20 points)
34. CanuckChuck (20 points)
35. napolinige (20 points)
36. sehmis (20 points)
37. Souleur (20 points)
38. sprider (20 points)
39. Deakus (18 points)
40. snoov (18 points)
41. Patrick (18 points)
42. Skip (18 points)
43. ped (16 points)
44. RedRanger (16 points)
45. Tobin (16 points)
46. Heihachi (16 points)
47. anotherdownunder (16 points)
48. bderw (16 points)
49. Mikael Liddy (13 points)
50. Simon (13 points)
51. DocBrian (13 points)
52. Adrian (13 points)
53. girl (13 points)
54. PT (13 points)
55. Erik (11 points)
56. pakrat (11 points)
57. Bat Chainpuller (10 points)
58. PeakInTwoYears (10 points)
59. brian (10 points)
60. Yannersan (10 points)
61. margc (10 points)
62. Dan_R (10 points)
63. The Grande Fondue (10 points)
64. Velodeluded (10 points)
65. paolo (10 points)
66. Jay (10 points)
67. xyxax (10 points)
68. Joe (9 points)
69. DerHoggz (9 points)
70. Gervais (9 points)
71. torrefie (9 points)
72. VirenqueForever (9 points)
73. Chris (9 points)
74. the Engine (9 points)
75. sgraha (9 points)
76. pink (9 points)
77. Jhortua (9 points)
78. simonsaunders (9 points)
79. quanyeomans (9 points)
80. R00tdown (9 points)
81. leadout (9 points)
82. Islandbike (9 points)
83. HeinrichHausslersHairstyle (8 points)
84. zeitzmar (8 points)
85. RManneck (8 points)
86. ramenvelo (8 points)
87. ten B (8 points)
88. starclimber (8 points)
89. Dr C (6 points)
90. gallilano (6 points)
91. Buck Rogers (6 points)
92. Tartan1749 (6 points)
93. Fausto (6 points)
94. Lukas (6 points)
95. wiscot (6 points)
96. roger (6 points)
97. Cyclops (6 points)
98. moondance (6 points)
99. TomC (6 points)
100. Sauterelle (6 points)
101. Franklin (6 points)
102. imakecircles (6 points)
103. blue (6 points)
104. brad_the_dean (6 points)
105. la plaque (6 points)
106. Benny (6 points)
107. zalamanda (6 points)
108. Vernwitha_V (6 points)
109. Roberto Marques (6 points)
110. King Clydesdale (6 points)
111. tony macaroni (6 points)
112. Benzo (6 points)
113. NoTubes (6 points)
114. minion (6 points)
115. VeloVita (4 points)
116. motor city (3 points)
117. Steampunk (3 points)
118. The Goat (3 points)
119. kyle (3 points)
120. TBONE (3 points)
121. Gino (3 points)
122. 936adl (3 points)
123. chrismurphy92 (3 points)
124. El Mateo (3 points)
125. graham d.m. (3 points)
126. el gato (3 points)
127. Geordi (3 points)
128. LA Dave (1 points)
129. Nosyt (1 points)
130. eightzero (1 points)
131. JohnB (1 points)
132. unversio (1 points)
133. brett (0 points)
134. asyax (0 points)
135. m_demartino (0 points)
136. sthilzy (0 points)
137. SimonH (0 points)
138. Two Ball Billy (0 points)
139. Facetious_Jesus (0 points)
140. freddy (0 points)
141. eenies (0 points)
142. Harminator (0 points)
143. Dashiell (0 points)
144. Al__S (0 points)
145. oneninefiveninesix (0 points)
146. ChrisO (0 points)
147. Blah (0 points)
148. piwakawaka (0 points)
149. TOM.NELS2120 (0 points)
150. jeyrod (0 points)

// Velominati Super Prestige

  1. @frank

    @Erik


    Is it just me, or did Vincenzo Nibali win a Barbie Dream House throne?

    What is it with the fucking thrones? Its a worse trend than baseball caps on the podium.

    poor wiggo….did you ever see someone so uncomfortable and ill at ease with themselves.  I hope as he grows older he gets used to being inside his own skin.

  2. @paolo

    @PeakInTwoYears

    @paolo

    I wonder if Amoebas tell each other to go fuck themselves?

    Where do you suppose we get it?

    Wow, you must not be American. You know you are hinting at actual evoloution don’t you? Not the sort that sees dura ace become di2 but actual evoloution. This is tant amount to herasy in some parts of this country. ( not the PNW where it sems many enlightened people live..i hasten to add).

    American of the big-government socialist class-warfare social-engineering Wall Street-occupying pot-legalizing gay marriage-supporting flavor. (Unless you’re coming for my guns, in which case you should bring several well-armed friends.)

  3. @frank

    @Erik


    Is it just me, or did Vincenzo Nibali win a Barbie Dream House throne?

    What is it with the fucking thrones? Its a worse trend than baseball caps on the podium.

    I’m telling you, after Sky/Wiggins dominated last year they have become the model to follow it seems.  First the TT-winning fist pump, now a throne.  I was surprised by the distinct lack of sideburns throughout the peloton, even on the Modfather.  Perhaps that explains his poor performance?  Contador is taking some races off to grow his out before the TdF no doubt.

  4. @frank

    @strathlubnaig

    You look like a fanny with that pink shirt. Don’t let the guys on the rig see you in that.

    Maybe aye, but a fucking FANTASTIC looking fanny….

  5. @Deakus

    @Beers

    @Giles

    Disk brakes are just wrong on a road bike.

    They would be fucking WIN on a rain bike though! Those few seconds pumping the water off the rim before the pads work clenches my buttocks everytime…

    Aha..but that puts you on carbon rims surely?….those of us on alu rims suffer less…

    Seems my last post put someone’s nose out of joint enough to pack it in.
    Let’s see if I can make it two for two…

    Carbon rims on your rain bike.

    All of my riding through this autumn in Melbs has been on Carbon rims.  The thing that I’m discovering is that;

    i) They perform surprisingly well braking wise

    ii) They stay clean!!

    I’m loving the fact that even after a filthy wet ride, my bike isn’t covered in that shitty aluminium / grit paste that is ground off the braking surface of aluminium rims.

    Carbon rims for all conditions. Put your aluminium hoops in the bin. Now.

    ….Aaaaand; GO.

  6. @mouse

    Who brakes?  If you brake you lose.

  7. @Marcus

     

    If only I could fuck myself silly- I would realize what a bitter, bitter disappointment I am in the sack and by Mrs Marcus a new house without me in it. 

    There ya go sweetheart fixed it for you.

  8. *fuck* BUY *it*

  9. Just a reminder of how hard pro cyclists can be….

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist

    Sure shows soccer playing wanks how it ough to be done

  10. So pleased that the counter-argument to DocBrian’s observation about “the self-opinionated morons who run this site”  has largely been based on the fact that we don’t run the site.

    I would hate to lose credit, wherever it comes from.

  11. @frank

    @Marcus

    @paolo You are most probably right – however if i could fuck myself I could probaby also kid myself into thinking that i was really good.

    The question is, would you also fake your own orgasms?

    A chick once told me – ‘Opinions are like orgasms…mine matters most & I really don’t care if you have one.’

    She is still single.

  12. @strathlubnaig

    Just a reminder of how hard pro cyclists can be….

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist

    Sure shows soccer playing wanks how it ough to be done

    Every single one of ’em who finished that tour, hard as FUCK, long, fast, steep, wet, cold, steep, freezing, fast, steep, snow, rain, hail, and they’re racing each other, hard as FUCK. Great tour the strongest guy with undoubtably the strongest team, he still had two left 3km from the finale of stage 20, very well ridden by both, so if Nibali is not at TDF then who is Astana’s GC guy?

    Looking forward to seeing how guys who rode the Giro perform in France, Cavendish must be rubbing his hands with glee at his prospects, again great support from his team, another great aspect of this noble art is that it requires an entire team for one individual to win, and that’s just the team on the road, the investment must be huge at this level, anyone know what kind of budgets they operate with?

  13. @piwakawaka And Cav did it without electronic gears. He must be good operating at such a disadvantage.

  14. @Daccordi Rider why gamble on new tech with a sure thing like Cav? looking forward to him Griepel, and Sagan going head to head at TDF, hopefully being a Badass all over Italy won’t slow him down any, Griepel had a week in the rain in Belgium Sagan had a week of sun in the US wonder who had the best prep?

  15. @RedRanger

    @the Engine what are you using for chain lube?

    This time of year light oil as recommended by the LBS – clean after every ride with White Lightning and then reapply. If I’ve had a soaking and can’t clean That Fucking Bike due to family duties I spray GT 40 on the drive train to keep corrosion at bay until I can – I’ve seen rust develop during a coffee stop.

  16. @frank

    I’ve been on holiday a few days and am amazed to find this out about myself. Particularly since the good Doc appears to be better with a scalpel than his spell checker as I had a job of it sorting out what he’d said. And, the people he appears to have a beef with don’t run the site. He attention to detail mirrors his opinion of electronic shifting.

    I’ve just assumed it’s his digital version of a doctor’s particular brand of illegible scrawl…

  17. @the Engine

    @RedRanger

    @the Engine what are you using for chain lube?

    This time of year light oil as recommended by the LBS – clean after every ride with White Lightning and then reapply. If I’ve had a soaking and can’t clean That Fucking Bike due to family duties I spray GT 40 on the drive train to keep corrosion at bay until I can – I’ve seen rust develop during a coffee stop.

    You might wanna try green oil  super dry chain WAX , yeah, it’s “dry”, but given that we clean & lube more regularly than you’re average punter it will do the job. It’s great for avoiding that build up of  shite

    green oil chain waxYeah, the wax looks a bit odd, but better than orange ferric deposits

  18. @ped

    @the Engine

    @RedRanger

    @the Engine what are you using for chain lube?

    This time of year light oil as recommended by the LBS – clean after every ride with White Lightning and then reapply. If I’ve had a soaking and can’t clean That Fucking Bike due to family duties I spray GT 40 on the drive train to keep corrosion at bay until I can – I’ve seen rust develop during a coffee stop.

    You might wanna try green oil super dry chain WAX , yeah, it’s “dry”, but given that we clean & lube more regularly than you’re average punter it will do the job. It’s great for avoiding that build up of shite

    green oil chain waxYeah, the wax looks a bit odd, but better than orange ferric deposits

    I thought the preferred weapon of choice was Dumonde Tech…?

  19. @Deakus Have you managed to get that in the yUK?

  20. @ped

    @Deakus Have you managed to get that in the yUK?

    I ordered it off ebay and it was shipped from the states…it was a little pricey but I figured if it works as well as stated it would be worth it.  The N+1 has a brand new chain so I have been living with the factory wax but am about to do a strip down and re-lube so I will be cracking the seal on the Dumonde any day now…

  21. Hope I’m not gonna get a DocB thrashing regarding this, from Velo-

    The fastest bike lube isn’t designed for your bike at
    all. In every measure, the most efficient chain lubricant is simple paraffin wax, sold in solid blocks
    at any hardware store. In the efficiency test it was
    faster than the best bike lube by 0.24 watts and the
    worst by 3.05 watts under ideal conditions. Following an hour covered in dirt, sand, and water, the
    paraffin was nearly 6 watts faster than the worstperforming lube.
    That’s similar to changing from a low-quality
    training tire to a super-thin race tire, or from a
    cheap aero wheelset to the best available. Best of all,
    paraffin wax costs less than $10 for a few blocks,
    which will last months, if not years

    More here – http://www.friction-facts.com/ which includes a home recipe for waxing your precious bits!

  22. @ped

    Hope I’m not gonna get a DocB thrashing regarding this, from Velo-

    The fastest bike lube isn’t designed for your bike at
    all. In every measure, the most efficient chain lubricant is simple paraffin wax, sold in solid blocks
    at any hardware store. In the efficiency test it was
    faster than the best bike lube by 0.24 watts and the
    worst by 3.05 watts under ideal conditions. Following an hour covered in dirt, sand, and water, the
    paraffin was nearly 6 watts faster than the worstperforming lube.
    That’s similar to changing from a low-quality
    training tire to a super-thin race tire, or from a
    cheap aero wheelset to the best available. Best of all,
    paraffin wax costs less than $10 for a few blocks,
    which will last months, if not years

    More here – http://www.friction-facts.com/ which includes a home recipe for waxing your precious bits!

    How do we know that you’re not just a puppet of the paraffin wax cartels?

  23. Its Fenwick Stealth Lube for me. Lovely stuff.

  24. @motor city that just sounds the dog’s ‘nads. I am a marketer’s dream, I’d buy it without your recommendation with a name like that…

  25. @mouse BUSTED! Damn, where’s my mood altering Yankee Candle, need to chill out now

  26. @ped

    Hope I’m not gonna get a DocB thrashing regarding this, from Velo-

    The fastest bike lube isn’t designed for your bike at
    all. In every measure, the most efficient chain lubricant is simple paraffin wax, sold in solid blocks
    at any hardware store. In the efficiency test it was
    faster than the best bike lube by 0.24 watts and the
    worst by 3.05 watts under ideal conditions. Following an hour covered in dirt, sand, and water, the
    paraffin was nearly 6 watts faster than the worstperforming lube.
    That’s similar to changing from a low-quality
    training tire to a super-thin race tire, or from a
    cheap aero wheelset to the best available. Best of all,
    paraffin wax costs less than $10 for a few blocks,
    which will last months, if not years

    More here – http://www.friction-facts.com/ which includes a home recipe for waxing your precious bits!

    In the interests of health and safety and not blowing up my house, I am not going to spend any time melting down parafin wax…..as they say….a fool and his house are soon parted!

  27. @Deakus The fact that my first thought was, “Can it really be that dangerous?” possibly shows that I am not the right person to be doing this either

  28. @the Engine I dont know what part of the world you are in but if things are very wet you may want to try Pedros Syn lube.

    I use their Ice wax on both my road and mountain bikes, but it only rains here 2 weeks the entire year, and I have to contend with all the dust and sand that gets into everything.

  29. @ped

    @Deakus The fact that my first thought was, “Can it really be that dangerous?” possibly shows that I am not the right person to be doing this either

    Apparently it is not the wax catching fire that is a worry (although that can happen too) it is the fumes that are extremely flammable and explosive.  You need some sort of low heat burner…i.e. a cadle or hex tab might do it.  Do not try and light it up with a pinch of C4!

  30. Can i get a clarification?

    My picks for the VSP get 9  (3 placed wherever)

    But my pick for Giro stage 10 – got 7

    Were these independently added and the total on here just the score for the overall.

    Anyone…..?

  31. @simonsaunders

    Can i get a clarification?

    My picks for the VSP get 9 (3 placed wherever)

    But my pick for Giro stage 10 – got 7

    Were these independently added and the total on here just the score for the overall.

    Anyone…..?

    They should have been independently added on the day.  I can not remember which stage was the “one off” where a VSP were run on a single day for that stage only, but if it was stage 10 they were all added on the day.  Your 9 points for the finish should then have been added a day or so ago…

  32. @strathlubnaig

    Just a reminder of how hard pro cyclists can be….

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist

    Sure shows soccer playing wanks how it ough to be done

    That link is dead, presumably due to a wee overstatement. He only raced over 1,000 km with a broken bone in his hand. Ridiculously tough enough, imho.

  33. @Deakus

    @ped

    Hope I’m not gonna get a DocB thrashing regarding this, from Velo-

    The fastest bike lube isn’t designed for your bike at
    all. In every measure, the most efficient chain lubricant is simple paraffin wax, sold in solid blocks
    at any hardware store. In the efficiency test it was
    faster than the best bike lube by 0.24 watts and the
    worst by 3.05 watts under ideal conditions. Following an hour covered in dirt, sand, and water, the
    paraffin was nearly 6 watts faster than the worstperforming lube.
    That’s similar to changing from a low-quality
    training tire to a super-thin race tire, or from a
    cheap aero wheelset to the best available. Best of all,
    paraffin wax costs less than $10 for a few blocks,
    which will last months, if not years

    More here – http://www.friction-facts.com/ which includes a home recipe for waxing your precious bits!

    In the interests of health and safety and not blowing up my house, I am not going to spend any time melting down parafin wax…..as they say….a fool and his house are soon parted!

    There was a study done similar to this which had Dumonde Tech as the worst performer. I don’t generally use it on a rain bike because it is a real oil-based lube. On the other hand, in clean conditions, nothing runs smoother and quieter and I still use it and love it.

    And it smells fantastic.

  34. @simonsaunders@Deakus

    Yes, consider the Stage VSP independent from the Giro VSP. Points from the Stage go into the overall VSP, not the Giro VSP.

  35. @starclimber

    @strathlubnaig

    Just a reminder of how hard pro cyclists can be….

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist

    Sure shows soccer playing wanks how it ough to be done

    That link is dead, presumably due to a wee overstatement. He only raced over 1,000 km with a broken bone in his hand. Ridiculously tough enough, imho.

    Ah so no broken ankle then, just the wrist, well good effort anyway, probably just severely twisted. These GTs always bring out the best in Rule #5 behaviour. Inspiration indeed.

  36. @Dr C

    @JohnB

    Where are you riding in GC?

    The climb up from Mogan to 2/3 way up is one of the best climbs anywhere – bit shitty on up to the top of the mountain after that, but glorious up to that point, and what a descent! 10/10 – mind you, it’s in a sheltered gully, so make sure you have plenty of water and and ice maker on your top tube, coz it’s gonna be frikking hot in the summer

    http://app.strava.com/segments/843156

    Staying in Amadores this year. This will be the 4th year in the past few I’ll be in GC, spent a couple in Lanzarore and Tenerife. Just not the same. I know that Ojeda climb well, it was one of the first I discovered and the one I look forward to most every time I’m back. There are options to continue for a whole day run taking in the 1949m of Pico de las Nieves or return via Soria or Ayacata if its a couple or 3 hours. Free Motion do great hire bikes, no need to risk my own to a Ryanair baggage handler. It does get a bit cooler up high, but still sharpens the tan lines nicely. Plenty local options to sample an espresso and top up the bottles. Going to have a closer look at the north of the island this year.

  37. Purple Extreme lube on the #1. I get over 2000km out of a Dura Ace 10 speed before the chain checker says .75. Change before 1.0 and cassette is good for 3 chains. Shimano wet lube on the winter/ rain bike.

  38. @JohnB

    and the unimaginatively named Seafood Pasta dish at Atacaya makes all the suffering worthwhile!

    Ditto the Papaya Juice in Soria

    For me, I’m off to not ride up the Stelvio this sunday, as the friggin place is still sowed up!

    ….it’ll have to be the Motirolo then!!

    Sad reality is I actually won’t be able to get up that beast in my current shape, but I’ll give it a lash – fail reports next week

    Enjoy GC

  39. @piwakawaka

    @strathlubnaig

    Just a reminder of how hard pro cyclists can be….

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/morabito-toughed-out-giro-ditalia-with-broken-ankle-and-wrist

    Sure shows soccer playing wanks how it ough to be done

    so if Nibali is not at TDF then who is Astana’s GC guy?

    anyone know what kind of budgets they operate with?

    Fuglsang, who’ll be lucky to finish at all, let alone in the top 10!

    20-30 million Euros per year, I think.

  40. @Dr C

    Sad reality is I actually won’t be able to get up that beast in my current shape, but I’ll give it a lash – fail reports next week

    Kill it and spill the glory! There is no V in “sand bagging”.

  41. Fucking Eyetalian twats. Arrivederci Vini Santini…..

  42. @JohnB

    Purple Extreme lube on the #1. I get over 2000km out of a Dura Ace 10 speed before the chain checker says .75. Change before 1.0 and cassette is good for 3 chains. Shimano wet lube on the winter/ rain bike.

    Just stripped down chains on N1 & 2 and then applied Dumonde Tech….man that stuff smells awesome….I will be sorely tempted to smother the VMH in it tonight!

  43. @Deakus

    Lube

    Ride

    Repeat

  44. @strathlubnaig

    Fucking Eyetalian twats. Arrivederci Vini Santini…..

  45. @Sauterelle

    @strathlubnaig

    Fucking Eyetalian twats. Arrivederci Vini Santini…..

    yip…knowing what we know now, that just drips irony.

  46. @Sauterelle

    @strathlubnaig

    Fucking Eyetalian twats. Arrivederci Vini Santini…..

    Popping like grapes!

  47. Yes it is way early (way early), but picking a winner of the Giro d’Italia 97Ëš now — Rigoberto Uran.

    Checkout his fan Facebook page — he appears to be a humble killer.

  48. A holiday classic that had to be posted. (not my work)

  49. I like the look of this training — Giro d’Italia winning training.

  50. @unversio

    Yes it is way early (way early), but picking a winner of the Giro d’Italia 97Ëš now – Rigoberto Uran.

    Checkout his fan Facebook page “” he appears to be a humble killer.

    Very confident of this upcoming winner of Giro d’Italia 97Ëš

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