Anatomy of a Photo: Depletion

Anatomy of a Photo: Depletion

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One eye open and dreaming; were the building on fire, I suspect this shell of a man could hardly be bothered to move from his bench.

As a Cyclist, the enormous weight of the total exhaustion felt by LeMond at this moment fills my spirit with equal measures of dread and envy.

// Anatomy of a Photo

  1. @Nate

    @frank

    @Gianni

    @Nate

    Merckx bless LeMond and his ilk, like the Badger, for being GC men who’d still go out and shatter themselves at Paris-Roubaix in April.

    yeah, my thought’s exactly when I saw this photo. Lemond was ready to waste himself in April and on through the summer. He was trying to catch Kelly all year long. Who is the modern day version of GC Hardman? Thor, but he is really not for the GC. Maybe none, too specialized now.

    I can’t think of anyone. Not one. Roubaix and the Tour and the Worlds? Pick two. Liege and the Tour and the Worlds? Pick two.
    Admittedly, the UCI fucked with that model by pushing the worlds so late in the year – the guys who are doing the Tour are cooked by October. When it was in August – it wasn’t ideal, maybe terrible even, given peaks, but you could carry form over and still be competitive. And October peak after the Tour would be almost impossible.

    Cadel has the Tour and Worlds and could win Liege in the right circumstances. Actually, from a team perspective he’d be well set up this year to play the wildcard there to Gilbert’s ace. I wouldn’t put a good showing at Roubaix past him either. It would be rad to seem him go for it in awful weather. But he’d be less likely to win that race.

    I gotta side with Fränk on this one. Say Clenbutador was clean(ish). Great GC rider (and douche-nozzel) yes. But the cobbles would crush him like a pop can. The closest guy IMHO would be Jens if (and really it’s a big if) he would have had not been so unselfish and stepped up to lead himself. The guys a monster and might have pulled to off a few years back in different circumstances. But he didn’t, so no one. And that’s a result of specialization, which kinda sucks.
    The sport has gone from following exceptional riders, to exceptional teams. Probably from American money being injected into the sport using football as a model. Just a guess.

  2. @frank
    Also noting LeMond was second in MSR to Sean Kelly once upon a time. Class.

  3. @Nate

    @frank

    @Gianni

    @Nate

    Merckx bless LeMond and his ilk, like the Badger, for being GC men who’d still go out and shatter themselves at Paris-Roubaix in April.

    yeah, my thought’s exactly when I saw this photo. Lemond was ready to waste himself in April and on through the summer. He was trying to catch Kelly all year long. Who is the modern day version of GC Hardman? Thor, but he is really not for the GC. Maybe none, too specialized now.

    I can’t think of anyone. Not one. Roubaix and the Tour and the Worlds? Pick two. Liege and the Tour and the Worlds? Pick two.
    Admittedly, the UCI fucked with that model by pushing the worlds so late in the year – the guys who are doing the Tour are cooked by October. When it was in August – it wasn’t ideal, maybe terrible even, given peaks, but you could carry form over and still be competitive. And October peak after the Tour would be almost impossible.

    Cadel has the Tour and Worlds and could win Liege in the right circumstances. Actually, from a team perspective he’d be well set up this year to play the wildcard there to Gilbert’s ace. I wouldn’t put a good showing at Roubaix past him either. It would be rad to seem him go for it in awful weather. But he’d be less likely to win that race.

    True enough, but he won the Worlds after a total fuck all at the Tour – I think we can all agree he was two months from peaking that year!

    And on the cobbles? Cadelephant? Not without his mountainbike!

  4. @Nate

    @frank
    Also noting LeMond was second in MSR to Sean Kelly once upon a time. Class.

    And Lombardy. He was a Four-Season Fuckness Stopper!

  5. @frank
    Pretty sure cuddles won’t race Liege this year – maybe never again. He will stick to last year’s program…

  6. @scaler911
    I don’t think I mentioned Clenbutador. The idea of him doing Roubaix is laughable.

    @frank
    Coming in second to Sean Kelly — possibly even more classy than actually winning. Just ask Moreno Argentin:

  7. @Marcus
    Probably right. It would be cool if he went for it, though.

  8. @Nate

    @scaler911
    I don’t think I mentioned Clenbutador. The idea of him doing Roubaix is laughable.
    @frank
    Coming in second to Sean Kelly “” possibly even more classy than actually winning. Just ask Moreno Argentin:

    No, I didn’t think you did. I was just saying a great GC guy can’t be/ isn’t a Classics guy. The two don’t mix anymore. Post reads funny cause of my friend Mr. IPA.

  9. @scaler911
    Hey, Mr. IPA is visiting at my house too. Obviously.

    Some of the GC guys like Cadel can do hilly classics like Liege, Fleche, Lombardy and Worlds on the right course. Maybe not in the same season, though, as @frank points out. None of those guys are going to win P-R or MSR but it would be a lot cooler if the would show up and be a factor, because some of them surely could. Look at Scarponi’s ride last year at MSR.

  10. @Nate

    Wow. That was a great video. Thanks for posting it. Interlaced video, though, oi.

  11. @Calmante
    There are probably better versions of it to be found on the innertubes.

  12. @Nate

    @scaler911
    Hey, Mr. IPA is visiting at my house too. Obviously.
    Some of the GC guys like Cadel can do hilly classics like Liege, Fleche, Lombardy and Worlds on the right course. Maybe not in the same season, though, as @frank points out. None of those guys are going to win P-R or MSR but it would be a lot cooler if the would show up and be a factor, because some of them surely could. Look at Scarponi’s ride last year at MSR.

    Yep. And, BTW, Dazed and Confused is a fantastic film.

  13. @roche kelly


    Rockin on RockShox!

    I’m sure I’ve seen this photo before and it’s been discussed here but I’ve only just noticed the bars.

    What’s the deal with the drop extensions coming in like that – I can’t imagine how you would actually use them or what they add, apart from an extra few grams.

  14. @Nate
    Pretty sure BMC’s P-R is going to be all about Thor.

  15. New respect for LeMan.

    My first long ride was 50 miles on my LeMond Reno steel 7 speed.

    When I got into serious cycling my longest ride for a while was 190km on that same bike.

    It’s now bike #4 but I think I may need to treat it better after seeing this photo!

  16. @ChrisO
    Basically a more tucked in aero position, I think there is some video of him descending on them.

    While lookiong for example pics I found this, completely OT, but RDV doing some ‘cross.

  17. @Rob

    @frank

    @napolinige

    Wow! What a photo.
    I suggest a photo contest for those of you going on the Keepers’ Tour. Best attempt to emulate this photo.. you may swap out the Coca-cola for beer.

    We’ve already discussed doing a Quickstep photo, except with Cobblestones.

    Oh and this image should be banned from ever being shown again it is wrong, wrong, wrong! and no I am not homophobic I have even spent a night in a hotel with a stranger I met on the interweb…

    Och aye laddie, the Jockey Cap Motel, the deep woods of New Hampshire, three strapping male cyclists, two beds.

  18. @ChrisO
    This photo is the whole package of ‘good stuff’ Chris! Scott bars I don’t/ didn’t get either, maybe aero tuck pre Cinelli Spinachi’s? Only other reason apart from that is being a good place to put the SCOTT sticker so it was photographed.

    Steel framed bike Columbus tubing with LeMond stickers & paint job. Giro Air Attack Helmet,Time Equipe pedals, Campy Record C gruppo & rims , steel TA bottle cages,old school Oakley’s. The shoes were probably custom made as Greg was supposed to have different sized feet. The shoe stickers say Brancale, but when you saw his shoes up close looked like they were custom & not like anything on sale back then. 3rd rider back in the photo ( light green Tulip top) is Adri Van der Poel, this guy was a neat classics rider in the 80’s & 90’s

  19. @Nate

    @scaler911
    I don’t think I mentioned Clenbutador. The idea of him doing Roubaix is laughable.
    @frank
    Coming in second to Sean Kelly “” possibly even more classy than actually winning. Just ask Moreno Argentin:

    Wow – Great footage. Forgot what a beast Argentin was, and yet Kelly still closed on him with ease… was there any doubt he was going to win at that point?

  20. @roche kelly
    “3rd rider back in the photo ( light green Tulip top) is Adri Van der Poel, this guy was a neat classics rider in the 80″²s & 90″²s”

    Nice catch on Van der Poel. I remember him from those classics as well, and then he went on win a CX world championship. His son Mathieu won this years junior worlds CX title…I guess the apple didn’t fall too far from the tree.

  21. What’s the “Z” on the jersey stand for?

  22. What a great photo frank! The fact that your words are at a minimum is perfect! Nothing more is needed once one fully appreciates that look on his face, excellent stuff.

  23. @frank

    @itburns

    @Roadslave525

    @chris. Starting new job on Monday… Let the dust settle, let me get feet under desk and build cover story… Then we shall drink, and talk about @frank’s Diva tendenciesBTW FUCK ME…. Track senSATional this evening… I thought WRs were rare…. But, wow! I *heart* Pendleton

    The start of a job is the only chance you have to set the bar. Go for an eight hour V session on Sunday followed by a good piss up. Work will think a limp, glazed corneas, and whiskey cologne is normal. Smooth sailing from then on.

    I use the Castanza Model myself. Walk around with a furious look on my face and anytime someone asks me to do something, I wave my hands about and say something to the effect of, “I DON’T KNOW IF I HAVE ENOUGH TIME!! I’VE GOT A FULL PLATE RIGHT NOW!”
    And then they leave me alone. And then I go have a leisurely tea.

    I say I’m workingin on the Penske file.

  24. @Gianni
    Give him a couple of years… But Sagan? Geraint Thomas? I’m secretly hoping there’ll be a renaissance in pros trying to do more, and becoming less specialised… I remember hearing The Prophet speak (at the Maglia Rosa / Rouleur dinner last year) where he talked about how he managed his weight through the year to optimise his performance… adding +2kg for cobbled classics (of muscle), then -4kg (i.e. 2kg less than ‘normal weight) for Grand Tours so could fly in the mountains and take the distances… Very matter of fact, but Inspiring stuff… For him, cycling was his office, and you went to work all year round

  25. @SuperFed
    It’s the initial of [Something] Zannier, the owner of Vetements ‘Z’ a childrens clothing brand/chain.

  26. Roger Zannier!

  27. @mcsqueak

    For example, NFL games have an average of only 11 MINUTES of play time per game. The other ~170 minutes are filled with standing around, replays, and whatever else.

    Excellent point! One that I made frequently when I had a boss who was an ex college football (American style) lineman. Big, muscular, overweight dude. He’d give me crap about the lycra and riding a bike for six hours. Then I’d remind him that he’d sit on the bench for 57 minutes out of a 60 minute game.

    He never liked that.

    @frank

    Excellent pic. Even better choice of little words. I suspect I’ll look somewhat similar on March 31st.

    And glad to see I wasn’t the only one that invoked Rule #9 yesterday

  28. @frank

    @napolinige

    Wow! What a photo.
    I suggest a photo contest for those of you going on the Keepers’ Tour. Best attempt to emulate this photo.. you may swap out the Coca-cola for beer.

    We’ve already discussed doing a Quickstep photo, except with Cobblestones.

    Send a copy to the PR folk at Quick Step, WTF were they thinking? I fail to believe they’ve not heard the term ‘Pillow Biter’.

  29. @Nate

    Merckx bless LeMond and his ilk, like the Badger, for being GC men who’d still go out and shatter themselves at Paris-Roubaix in April.

    A great quote I came across along those lines from an impeccable source:

    Anquetil stated “In Bobet’s eyes there were no little races or unimportant victories. Every race mattered and he wanted to give his everything to his public. Bobet knew only one way of racing and that was to race to win, whatever the sacrifices demanded.”

  30. @sthilzy

    was that when he was suckerpunched in the liver during the Tour de France?

    and about the nickname LeMan: there was a flandrien whose real name was Leman, Eric…

  31. @Louutah

    ” It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better,
    The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, who’s face is marred by dust and sweat and blood”
    Teddy Roosevelt.

    Beautiful. So common – and not just in Sport. Some people simply can’t resist the urge to point out the mistakes of those who take chances. Their quickness to judge tends to be inversely proportional to how likely they themselves are to take a risk.

    Humans are fascinating. Great quote!!

    @Rob

    I have even spent a night in a hotel with a stranger I met on the interweb…

    A night I’ll never forget. And something that’s been happening more and more, I might add.

  32. @ChrisO

    @roche kelly


    Rockin on RockShox!

    I’m sure I’ve seen this photo before and it’s been discussed here but I’ve only just noticed the bars.
    What’s the deal with the drop extensions coming in like that – I can’t imagine how you would actually use them or what they add, apart from an extra few grams.

    WHAT’S THE DEAL WITH THE EXTENSIONS? WHAT’S WITH THE EXTENSIONS? THEY ARE FOR KICKING ASS, OBVIOUSLY.

    Their awesomeness was outmatched only by their flexiness. LeMond later rode a set with a connector and stabilizers. (Look closely at the pic – LeMond is in the bunch behind Pharmy and you can see the sticks going from the bars to the fork.)

    They were for tucking in low and aero, and were road-race legal at the time. I had a set, with the same tape and with the Scott stickers. I looked and felt like I was the proper business.

  33. @roche kelly

    @ChrisO
    This photo is the whole package of ‘good stuff’ Chris! Scott bars I don’t/ didn’t get either, maybe aero tuck pre Cinelli Spinachi’s? Only other reason apart from that is being a good place to put the SCOTT sticker so it was photographed.
    Steel framed bike Columbus tubing with LeMond stickers & paint job. Giro Air Attack Helmet,Time Equipe pedals, Campy Record C gruppo & rims , steel TA bottle cages,old school Oakley’s. The shoes were probably custom made as Greg was supposed to have different sized feet. The shoe stickers say Brancale, but when you saw his shoes up close looked like they were custom & not like anything on sale back then. 3rd rider back in the photo ( light green Tulip top) is Adri Van der Poel, this guy was a neat classics rider in the 80″²s & 90″²s

    YES YES YES!! There is something about that era that I just love so Merckxdamn much.

    @Roadslave

    @Gianni
    Give him a couple of years… But Sagan? Geraint Thomas? I’m secretly hoping there’ll be a renaissance in pros trying to do more, and becoming less specialised… I remember hearing The Prophet speak (at the Maglia Rosa / Rouleur dinner last year) where he talked about how he managed his weight through the year to optimise his performance… adding +2kg for cobbled classics (of muscle), then -4kg (i.e. 2kg less than ‘normal weight) for Grand Tours so could fly in the mountains and take the distances… Very matter of fact, but Inspiring stuff… For him, cycling was his office, and you went to work all year round

    Top drawer, Roadie! I hadn’t heard that – amazing. Perhaps people are so weight obsessed now that they can’t manage that kind of drop?

    Another interesting bit I read somewhere was him describing his geometry, which is known for being super stable. He was completely focussed on maximizing his advantage, so he knew he’d always get out-climbed by les grimeur and so his geometry was all about being able to out-descend. Stable at high speed so he could kamakazi down the mountain after the mountain goats. Worked out well for him on several occasions.

  34. Little late to the party, but this photo speaks to me of utter satisfaction and accomplishment. Exhaustion, yes, but moreso I see LeMan saying to himself “that was badass”.

    Who hasn’t completely shelled themselves on an especially tough ride and felt a feeling of satisfaction in the job they had just done?

  35. We are all human.

  36. Ottavio: Casual, deliberate, wrecked;

  37. @Pedale.Forchetta

    We are all human.

    “I’ve always tried to be an honest sportsman.” Doping has been here a long time, but in those days, no drug could turn a mule into a thoroughbred like they do now.

    @scaler911
    Not a handsome fellow, was he?

  38. @JC Belgium
    Yes, although it was the kidney he was punched in.

    And good point about Eric Leman! He had some pretty good palmares, including three Ronde van Vlaanderen…

  39. @frank My bad, I just wanted to point out that even Eddy Mercx can cry…

  40. …Merckx…

  41. There is something amazing about the preternatural ability to push yourself waaaaaaay past any point of normal physical exertion, so when you are done, it feels your whole existence is hanging by a very tenuous thread. It hurts, but there is that rush of going past the edge and making back. That picture is powerful. Looking at the picture of complete and utter exhaustion, I almost feel exhausted myself.

  42. @silkrider
    Feels good just looking at it.

  43. And yet how about this for Rule V? Panache and reserves in spades. Chapeau!

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/6447334/100-year-old-sets-cycling-world-record

  44. @frank

    @The Oracle

    Does anyone else think he looks like Ryan Gosling in that picture?

    No. If Ryan Gosling* underwent a full-body Rule #5 cleanse and a rigorously studied “Not Being a Pussy, A Beginners Guide” and then learned to ride a bike and then became a Pro who revolutionized the sport and then rode Paris-Roubaix and sat in the shower like a wet fucking sock, then maybe Ryan Gosling would look like Greg LeMond.
    *I actually like Ryan Gosling, but lets not mix apples and hardmen.

    Just to clarify, I was in no way suggesting a comparison of anything other than facial features.

  45. This thread is just further proof, cycling photos simply look better in black & white.

  46. @frank Do you credit these photos somewhere? Went looking elsewhere for this one, and can’t find it.

  47. Fantastic pic of LeMonster.

    At this point of the year, I resemble this after a slow mountain bike ride. It’s been a lazy winter…

  48. @DerHoggz

    @ChrisO
    Basically a more tucked in aero position, I think there is some video of him descending on them.

    While lookiong for example pics I found this, completely OT, but RDV doing some ‘cross.

    Of late, RDV has been my training oppenent in my head – I still get dropped like a red-headed step-child on the Muur by him…

  49. @scaler911

    Ottavio: Casual, deliberate, wrecked;

    Ottavio to be portrayed by Willem Dafoe.

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