Hinault explores the second of the Fundamental Fives: technical skill.

Convergence of the Two Fives

Convergence of the Two Fives

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Physics tells us that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. The conservation law extend beyond the physical world and into mystical where the V and Anti-V are also in a constant fight for balance. The Ancients on Mount Velomis understood this well, and taught that the Anti-V expresses itself within the universe as two principle kinds of weakness and that in response there are two fundamental Fives to counter them.

The first is weakness of the mind; this sort of weakness is expressed through pain as it the weakness is converted into muscular and mental strength through Training Properly and quieting the signals that tell you to stop as you learn to use your mind to drive your body beyond its perceived limits.  This is the First Five, and the most commonly recognized form of The V.

The second weakness requires introspection and discipline: it is recognition of the flaws in our technical skills. To be a complete rider, we must be skilled in all aspects of Cycling, we must find areas where we need to improve our skills and work hard at them until they become a strength. These weaknesses can be difficult to recognize and usually requires a Sensei for guidance. It takes humility, practice, and a willingness to fail time and again until finally we break through and conquer them. The willingness to shed our pride and fail in pursuit of perfection is the Second Five; it is never ending – as we improve in one area, we must find another weakness and work to raise our skill in that area. It is only through total commitment to always recognize our flaws that we will continue to improve to become a better Velominatus.

May 5th approaches, V.V. The Ancients called it Die Congnoscentus, or the Day of the Five. It is the Velominati New Year and a chance for reflection, a chance to celebrate the convergence of the Two Fives. We must always remember that we are all Pedalwans, that we all have much more to learn, and that improvement is a journey with no end. It is a day to renew our resolve to work at our weaknesses until they become strengths.

Go with Merckx fellow Pedalwans; Vive la Vie Velominatus.

// Etiquette // Folklore // La Vie Velominatus // Technique // The Hardmen

  1. @Mirko Dancers can V in their own way

  2. @frank

    @Haldy

    @frank

    Actually he did crash….Stage 15, 2003 tour..he was taken out by a spectator.

    Merckx. I was even there that day. Fook me.

    Not only did he crash, he won that stage.  Just went and re-watched the incident, and the commentating by Paul is SO disgusting given what we all now know.  Hard to ignore the determination though.

  3. Fab post Frank. The First V is a constant struggle. Not so much while on the bike, but the actual act of kitting up to get on the bike. I’m fine after 15-20min, but the weakness of mind is strong sometimes.

  4. fan-fuckingtastic

  5. @frank

    Which, now that I think of it, makes it remarkably similar to bacon.

    Now there’ a thought, lightsabre sliced bacon, comes off ready cooked and no added fats.

  6. @Haldy

    The true class act that day was Jan Ullrich

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaKR5iOCTts#t=51

  7. @HMBSteve

    @Haldy

    The true class act that day was Jan Ullrich

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaKR5iOCTts#t=51

    Agreed, I was just reveling in the fact that I got to point out that a Keeper made a slight slip in the facts. :-)

  8. @freddy

    @frank Thanks for this. I am looking forward to May 5. This is also the 125th day of the year. V.V.V. The convergence of a third V? Along with weakness of mind and lack of skill, I humbly submit that we reflect on our spiritual weakness on this day as well. Strength of mind and abundant skill are not enough to carry us through the suffering we must endure to become a better Velominatus. Let us also renew and celebrate our strength of spirit on May 5. This will lead us to victory and true glory on Mount Velomis.

    I had not realized that it was the VVVth day of the year. It was preordained. Amazing.

    @asyax

    @freddy , Frank …..125th day = V^3

    Surely a must-ride day for sheer awesomeness!

    Every day is Ride Day, but yeah, I take your point!

  9. @ChrisO

    How auspicious. I’ll be racing that day – third and final stage of Surrey League 3 Day.

    Let’s hope The V is with me.

    The V will be with you if you meditate on it properly. It is not something to hope for, it is something to make happen.

  10. @piers.fraser

    Frank, A timely article. The weather here in Melbourne (Aust) is crap this evening and with the bucketing rain I ran foul of those lovely white lines at the side of the road. Hit the deck and laid the bike on the pavement! The damage all seems pretty slight as I must have instinctively thrown myself under the bike to keep it away from the bight of the bitumen. Your post is helping while I nurse my sore elbow and gravel-rash thigh and bruised pride.

    Crashing hurts in a way you only ever remember after it happens again. Good luck.

    @rfreese888

    @Robert Freese Fausto Flies up the mountain in the Giro

    @wiscot

    I’m thinking when I see that picture: Hinault setting the bar for style. Shoes, socks, shorts, polka dot skinsuit, crochet-back gloves, yellow cap on backwards because it’s a TT and it’s more aero = perfection.

    @wiscot – You are onto something there but this photo of Fausto makes a strong case as well. Although it should be noted that Hinalts guns made any length of shorts look right.

  11. @Floridian

    V.V. 2014 falls on Recovery Monday ’round these here parts. I will work on smoothing the pedal stroke in honor of this day though as I strive towards Peaking in Two Months.

    I have been noticing a small kink in my stroke due to extensive big-ring climbing I’ve been practicing to build some strength – a consequence of riding low cadence exposed as I start to spin more again. I will work on this as well.

    That and my fucking cornering which has become atrocious.

  12. @HMBSteve

    @Haldy

    The true class act that day was Jan Ullrich

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaKR5iOCTts#t=51

    Yes. And then Hamilton comes up and waves his arms around telling people to stop. Hey, genius! You with the broken collarbone who got dropped during the attacking! Did the fact that your busted-up ass caught back up not alert you to the notion that they had already slowed down?

  13. @frank

    @Floridian

    V.V. 2014 falls on Recovery Monday ’round these here parts. I will work on smoothing the pedal stroke in honor of this day though as I strive towards Peaking in Two Months.

    I have been noticing a small kink in my stroke due to extensive big-ring climbing I’ve been practicing to build some strength – a consequence of riding low cadence exposed as I start to spin more again. I will work on this as well.

    That and my fucking cornering which has become atrocious.

    We need to ride together some time good Keeper…I can think of several great descents that will help with that cornering! :-)  ( Not that you can’t…but..we still need to ride together sometime)

  14. Here’s a healthy dose of Double V-

    http://bigringriding.com/image/58906383624

  15. @Haldy

    @HMBSteve

    @Haldy

    The true class act that day was Jan Ullrich

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaKR5iOCTts#t=51

    Agreed, I was just reveling in the fact that I got to point out that a Keeper made a slight slip in the facts. :-)

    @frank? slip?  That is worth pointing out!

  16. Its getting kinda spiritual up in here! Although, I guess the religious aspect of this site is pretty hard to miss…

  17. That “for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction” is the law of conservation of momentum, not energy.

  18. @sthilzy

    The V

    Born 194V

    Turned Pro 196V

    TDF – V times

    Giro – V times

    L-B-L’s, V times

    Rainbow Jersey, V horizontal bands

    V + cogs on cluster

    I need more vitamin V!

    Careful mate. Vitamin V is slang for Viagra.

  19. @RedRanger

    @sthilzy

    The V

    Born 194V

    Turned Pro 196V

    TDF – V times

    Giro – V times

    L-B-L’s, V times

    Rainbow Jersey, V horizontal bands

    V + cogs on cluster

    I need more vitamin V!

    Careful mate. Vitamin V is slang for Viagra.

    Could all still be true. 5 is a recurring number in cycling if you can get past the whole “it goes up to eleven” direction shifting had taken.

    As an aside, I wonder how much fear/awe the photog had with all that V roaring after him?

  20. @Ccos If thats the case, I go to 12.

  21. @rfreese888

    @Robert Freese Fausto Flies up the mountain in the Giro

    What a amazing picture. He looks like he burn his name with his eyes.

    I think we should talk about Coppi more. Alpe d’Huze climb times:

    38:37 – Ulrich 2004 (ITT)
    37:36 – Armstrong 2004 (ITT)
    39:06 – Mayo 2003
    38:01 – Armstrong 2001
    39:02 – Virenque 1997
    38:23 – Ullrich 1997
    37:35 – Pantani 1997 (current record)
    39:30 – Riis 1995
    39:28 – Indurain/Zulle 1995
    38:04 – Pantani 1995
    38:00 – Pantani 1994
    39:45 – Indurain, 1991
    41:50 – Fignon 1989
    48:00 – Hinault/Lemond 1986
    45:22 – Coppi 1952

    Coppi was on dirt roads, and they hadn’t invented EPO or blood bags. His bike was a bit heavier than modern ones, too.

  22. Permanent reminder on my top tube from the bikes from Mount Fuji, just down the road frm Mount V I believe

  23. @Barracuda That is a beefy top tube you got there.

  24. @RedRanger

    @Barracuda That is a beefy top tube you got there.

    The Fuji SST has a “beefy” top tube and an even bigger bottom bracket area.  I do like the lines of the overall bike however and having a dirty great V under the clear coat doesnt hurt in moments of weak mind and body either.  Its a ” nuggety ”  little bastard

  25. @The Grande Fondue

    @rfreese888

    @Robert Freese Fausto Flies up the mountain in the Giro

    What a amazing picture. He looks like he burn his name with his eyes.

    I think we should talk about Coppi more. Alpe d’Huze climb times:

    38:37 – Ulrich 2004 (ITT)
    37:36 – Armstrong 2004 (ITT)
    39:06 – Mayo 2003
    38:01 – Armstrong 2001
    39:02 – Virenque 1997
    38:23 – Ullrich 1997
    37:35 – Pantani 1997 (current record)
    39:30 – Riis 1995
    39:28 – Indurain/Zulle 1995
    38:04 – Pantani 1995
    38:00 – Pantani 1994
    39:45 – Indurain, 1991
    41:50 – Fignon 1989
    48:00 – Hinault/Lemond 1986
    45:22 – Coppi 1952

    Coppi was on dirt roads, and they hadn’t invented EPO or blood bags. His bike was a bit heavier than modern ones, too.

    That is pretty amazing.  Though I wonder if he had much in the way of his own teeth left after all the speed-grinding.

  26. Further research (reading ‘Pedalare Pedalare’) reveals that an inverted W or M signifies the casting of anti-V aspersions e.g. ”Fans, journalists and others were furious and they took out their frustration on Fiorenzo Magni ( for allegedly getting an organised push up a climb in the Giro 1947 causing Coppi to withdraw in protest). Alongside ‘Viva Coppi’ and ‘Viva Bartali’ now appeared ‘Abbasso Magni’ (down with Magni, usually written with an upside-down W’.

    you can’t get more Newtonian cause and effect than that!

  27. @RedRanger You will need to say that with a vapid sense of complete earnestness for the full effect  to work.

    And true about the limp pharm bastards sullying the good name of the V.

  28. @Francisco

    That “for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction” is the law of conservation of momentum, not energy.

    Righto. Isn’t the conservation of momentum ultimately built upon the conservation of energy? The energy required to overcome friction to move or slow down a mass etc?

    @The Grande Fondue

    @rfreese888

    @Robert Freese Fausto Flies up the mountain in the Giro

    What a amazing picture. He looks like he burn his name with his eyes.

    I think we should talk about Coppi more. Alpe d’Huze climb times:

    38:37 – Ulrich 2004 (ITT)
    37:36 – Armstrong 2004 (ITT)
    39:06 – Mayo 2003
    38:01 – Armstrong 2001
    39:02 – Virenque 1997
    38:23 – Ullrich 1997
    37:35 – Pantani 1997 (current record)
    39:30 – Riis 1995
    39:28 – Indurain/Zulle 1995
    38:04 – Pantani 1995
    38:00 – Pantani 1994
    39:45 – Indurain, 1991
    41:50 – Fignon 1989
    48:00 – Hinault/Lemond 1986
    45:22 – Coppi 1952

    Coppi was on dirt roads, and they hadn’t invented EPO or blood bags. His bike was a bit heavier than modern ones, too.

    Thats amazing. Of course, Hinault/LeMond slowed quite a bit near the top but nevertheless its incredible how close his time is.

  29. @frank I think Fignon’s time is possibly the most amazing – and I mean that in a good way. While he didn’t ride 100% of the time on bread and water, he sure wasn’t full of rocket fuel like most of the names above him.

  30. Dan Martin: the first few sentences of this article — loaded with V — courtesy of Rouleur

    “When I won a stage of the Vuelta, I attacked at the bottom of the climb. I vividly remember thinking, about thirty seconds later, ‘what the fuck are you doing? What are you doing? Really?’ Then it’s like ‘I’m here now, I might as well continue’. And then it kind of worked out.”

  31. @Haldy

    Here’s a healthy dose of Double V-

    http://bigringriding.com/image/58906383624

    Getting passed so hard your bike frame turns to wet noodles in fear.

  32. @Mike_P

    This is the article of recent articles. It sums up why most of us are here.

    You said a mouthful right there, son. Thank god Frank is back. It beats arguing about pedals. 

  33. @unversio

    Dan Martin: the first few sentences of this article “” loaded with V “” courtesy of Rouleur

    “When I won a stage of the Vuelta, I attacked at the bottom of the climb. I vividly remember thinking, about thirty seconds later, ‘what the fuck are you doing? What are you doing? Really?’ Then it’s like ‘I’m here now, I might as well continue’. And then it kind of worked out.”

    Awesome!  Words to live (or possibly die) by right there!

  34. @Buck Rogers

    @unversio

    Dan Martin: the first few sentences of this article “” loaded with V “” courtesy of Rouleur

    “When I won a stage of the Vuelta, I attacked at the bottom of the climb. I vividly remember thinking, about thirty seconds later, ‘what the fuck are you doing? What are you doing? Really?’ Then it’s like ‘I’m here now, I might as well continue’. And then it kind of worked out.”

    Awesome! Words to live (or possibly die) by right there!

    +1. The more I read about Dan’s thoughts & attitude, the more my respect for him grows. Chapeau.

  35. @Geraint

    @Buck Rogers

    @unversio

    Dan Martin: the first few sentences of this article “” loaded with V “” courtesy of Rouleur

    “When I won a stage of the Vuelta, I attacked at the bottom of the climb. I vividly remember thinking, about thirty seconds later, ‘what the fuck are you doing? What are you doing? Really?’ Then it’s like ‘I’m here now, I might as well continue’. And then it kind of worked out.”

    Awesome! Words to live (or possibly die) by right there!

    +1. The more I read about Dan’s thoughts & attitude, the more my respect for him grows. Chapeau.

    Good example of how committing and submitting to the V — then unlocking the V.

  36. @unversio

    @Geraint

    @Buck Rogers

    @unversio

    Dan Martin: the first few sentences of this article “” loaded with V “” courtesy of Rouleur

    “When I won a stage of the Vuelta, I attacked at the bottom of the climb. I vividly remember thinking, about thirty seconds later, ‘what the fuck are you doing? What are you doing? Really?’ Then it’s like ‘I’m here now, I might as well continue’. And then it kind of worked out.”

    Awesome! Words to live (or possibly die) by right there!

    +1. The more I read about Dan’s thoughts & attitude, the more my respect for him grows. Chapeau.

    Good example of how committing and submitting to The V “” then unlocking The V.

    As Morpheus said to Neo- “There is a difference between knowing the Path and walking the Path”…

  37. @Haldy

    @unversio

    @Geraint

    @Buck Rogers

    @unversio

    Dan Martin: the first few sentences of this article “” loaded with V “” courtesy of Rouleur

    “When I won a stage of the Vuelta, I attacked at the bottom of the climb. I vividly remember thinking, about thirty seconds later, ‘what the fuck are you doing? What are you doing? Really?’ Then it’s like ‘I’m here now, I might as well continue’. And then it kind of worked out.”

    Awesome! Words to live (or possibly die) by right there!

    +1. The more I read about Dan’s thoughts & attitude, the more my respect for him grows. Chapeau.

    Good example of how committing and submitting to The V “” then unlocking The V.

    As Morpheus said to Neo- “There is a difference between knowing the Path and walking the Path”…

    Didn’t they say the same thing in Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure ??

  38. Hmm…not sure about that…I think this is the quote that comes the closest-

    Bill: So-cratz – “The only true wisdom consists in knowing that you know nothing”.

    Ted: That’s us, dude.

  39. V Day falls on a Bank Holiday here in the UK. Absolutely no excuses to not get and meet the man with the Hammer!

  40. @VeloJello I suspect the man with the hammer would catch me within yards of setting out on V Day – Mrs Chris and I are off to Warsaw for the weekend with some friends but no kids. Monday will be a true recovery day.

    The V Month however will be blessed with an abundance of V – as of Tuesday or Wednesday I’m on Gardening Leave before starting a new job in June. If I can’t get properly fit by then there is no hope for me.

  41. @asyax I just got chills…

  42. @Chris Well I managed to get some browny points decorating over the weekend so I could get the day out on V V Day. The pic was taken on Route 1 between Lynemouth and Cresswell. A gorgeous road that hugs the coast and has some of the best tarmac I’ve ridden in a long time. I was aiming for 105km, but ended up at 106 and a bit km after getting lost at one point! http://app.strava.com/activities/137677359

  43. @VeloJello Strong work. That’s stunning countryside but it looks like it could get brutally windy!

    Hoping to start my gardening leave training tomorrow but I’m a bit afraid that the weekends excesses are going to hurt. The Warsaw diet included lots of vodka and little in the way of salad!

  44. @Chris Ha ha, slow and low to start off with then.

  45. @VeloJello   Nice – The VMW come from that area (a bit to the south – Boldon), I’m going to have to bring the bike next time I go up there.

  46. @Teocalli Brill! You’ll get to ride through the historic pedestrian and bike tunnel under the Tyne too (if you’ve not already) as that ride is North of the river.  I’m considering trying to organise a North East Cogal at some point this year…

  47. @Teocalli Let me know if you do by the way, riding in a group is more fun!

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