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The Bike. It is the central tool in pursuit of our craft. A Velominatus meticulously maintains their bicycles and adorns them with the essential, yet minimal, accoutrement. The Rules specify the principles of good taste in configuration and setup of our machines, but within those principles lies almost infinite room for personal taste.

It seems in some ways like a kind of Stockholm Syndrome, the way we honor our machines. We love them to a point that lies well beyond obsession. Upon these machines upon we endure endless suffering, but also find an unending pleasure. The rhythm, the harmony between rider and machine, the outdoors, the wind in our faces and air in our lungs.

The Bikes is devoted entirely to our machines. Ours, The Keepers, and yours, the Community. It features articles devoted to our bikes, and proves a forum for uploading photos of your own machines for discussion. We will be harsh, but fair; this is a place to enforce and enhance our observation of The Rules.

If you’d like to submit an article about your own beloved bike, please feel free to send it to us and we’ll do our best to work with you to include it.

  • Rule #12 and the Cascade Effect That is a very reasonable opening salvo for the Rule about bike ownership. Three is good and certainly a minimum, and we are talking road bikes here, if there was any doubt. They naturally become ordered: the #1 is ichi-ban, top dog, go-to bike for every and all rides. #2 was the old #1, it ...
  • Guest Article: Black Is Not The New Black  @kogalover is singing my song here. Bikes are beautiful. ’nuff said. VLVV, Gianni With all those posts on riding in winter and being visible, either by putting Eyes of Sauron or other car melting devices on one’s steed, or by even considering a YJA instead of donning plain black kit, it was about time to finally get ...
  • Dialing in the Stable This was going to be an article about Rule #45. It is amazing how much time is wasted and matches burned when professionals stop for that second bike change to get back on their #1. With all the jigs available to team mechanics it would seem they could set up five bikes exactly the same. And ...
  • Matching the drapes to the rug As a longtime titanium bike owner, I’ve always been jealous of a beautiful painted frame but Ti and carbon frames don’t need paint like a steel frame needs paint. But I want some painted beauty. It’s like buying a white car; I can’t do white, need some color. So between a Ti frame and a ...
  • Festum Prophetae: Waiting for the Hour Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. – Mike Tyson The one thing everyone should always plan for is that however well-conceived a program might be, things will never go to plan. The high level plan for my Festum Prophetae Hour Ride was as follows: Have a custom Hour Bike built by Don Walker. Because reasons. Reasons like custom ...
  1. @Gerald Wilson

    Simply stunning.




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  2. @Teocalli

    @RobSandy

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    Uh uh. Just done something silly/awesome.

    N+1 under the radar and to a silly low budget.

    Updates to follow…

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    Sounds interesting……..

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    It’s tremendously exciting. I hope I can rely on this community for advice on the build and also how best to lie to my wife about where certain things have come from and how much they cost…




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  3. @RobSandy

    @Teocalli

    @RobSandy

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    Uh uh. Just done something silly/awesome.

    N+1 under the radar and to a silly low budget.

    Updates to follow…

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    Sounds interesting……..

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    It’s tremendously exciting. I hope I can rely on this community for advice on the build and also how best to lie to my wife about where certain things have come from and how much they cost…

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    Get everything shipped to your office.




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  4. @chris

    @RobSandy

    @Teocalli

    @RobSandy

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    Uh uh. Just done something silly/awesome.

    N+1 under the radar and to a silly low budget.

    Updates to follow…

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    Sounds interesting……..

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    It’s tremendously exciting. I hope I can rely on this community for advice on the build and also how best to lie to my wife about where certain things have come from and how much they cost…

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    Get everything shipped to your office.

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    Get a “Load-and-Go” VISA card




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  5. @sthilzy

    @chris

    @RobSandy

    @Teocalli

    @RobSandy

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    Uh uh. Just done something silly/awesome.

    N+1 under the radar and to a silly low budget.

    Updates to follow…

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    Sounds interesting……..

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    It’s tremendously exciting. I hope I can rely on this community for advice on the build and also how best to lie to my wife about where certain things have come from and how much they cost…

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    Get everything shipped to your office.

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    Get a “Load-and-Go” VISA card

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    Already implementing both of those.




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  6. @RobSandy

    @sthilzy

    @chris

    @RobSandy

    @Teocalli

    @RobSandy

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    Uh uh. Just done something silly/awesome.

    N+1 under the radar and to a silly low budget.

    Updates to follow…

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    Sounds interesting……..

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    It’s tremendously exciting. I hope I can rely on this community for advice on the build and also how best to lie to my wife about where certain things have come from and how much they cost…

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    Get everything shipped to your office.

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    Get a “Load-and-Go” VISA card

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    Already implementing both of those.

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    …and get that PO Box!




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  7. @sthilzy

    @RobSandy

    @sthilzy

    @chris

    @RobSandy

    @Teocalli

    @RobSandy

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    Uh uh. Just done something silly/awesome.

    N+1 under the radar and to a silly low budget.

    Updates to follow…

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    Sounds interesting……..

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    It’s tremendously exciting. I hope I can rely on this community for advice on the build and also how best to lie to my wife about where certain things have come from and how much they cost…

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    Get everything shipped to your office.

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    Get a “Load-and-Go” VISA card

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    Already implementing both of those.

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    …and get that PO Box!

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    Useful for the big stuff.

    A while back an email was sent round the whole office requesting that people limit the size and nature of the items being delivered to the office. Various odd items were mentioned, including packages of meat. The last item on the list was garden furniture. Just as I turned to one of my colleagues to say “who the fuck would have garden furniture delivered to the office”, the lad from the mail room appeared in the cubicle with an enormous box addressed to me.

    My wife had ordered some new chairs from ebay, but hadn’t thought to change from the bike parts delivery address to the home address.

    Any saving that might have been had from ordering the bloody things on ebay was lost when I had to get them couriered home.

    I was very sorely tempted to get them couriered to her office.




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  8. @Gerald Wilson

    Retired from the Air Force, got a 5 pound frame for my pound of flesh. (And they’re paying me forever. I’ll let you know when we’re square.) Reminds me of Bassano del Grappa Italy in 1984 – and the girl, Marriuchia was her name. In the words of Jeremiah Johnson, “long time gone.”

    I made no attempt to go period-correct of course although those are new GP-4’s with 7400 hubs. Call it an homage? BTW 7900 down tube shifters are excellent if you like that sort of thing. Incredibly positive. Zero slop.

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    I am extremely jealous! I had a white Bottecchia Chromor of approximately the same vintage as yours. It was my first real road bike and of course, I loved that bike. I sold it due to space constraints but I wish I had not done so.

    Yours is an absolute beauty. Enjoy!




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  9. @chris

    @sthilzy

    …and get that PO Box!

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    Useful for the big stuff.

    I knew I could rely on you guys. I’ve bought the frameset with FD and RD still attached – Ultegra 6800. There are really good deals on Ultegra 6800 components at the moment, so the only lie I’m actually going to tell the wife is that I’m going to buy the components bit-by-bit, but actually I’ll probably order shifters, crankset, cassette and brakes as soon as I have the frame in my grubby little hands, bit bring them home bit by bit.

    All I’ll need then is bars and stem.

    Anyone know what Jagwire compressionless cables are and if there’s any complications fitting them? Apparently it’s what I need for this frame as there are no cable stops.

    A while back an email was sent round the whole office requesting that people limit the size and nature of the items being delivered to the office. Various odd items were mentioned, including packages of meat. The last item on the list was garden furniture. Just as I turned to one of my colleagues to say “who the fuck would have garden furniture delivered to the office”, the lad from the mail room appeared in the cubicle with an enormous box addressed to me.

    My wife had ordered some new chairs from ebay, but hadn’t thought to change from the bike parts delivery address to the home address.

    Any saving that might have been had from ordering the bloody things on ebay was lost when I had to get them couriered home.

    I was very sorely tempted to get them couriered to her office.

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    This is great.




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  10. What length Stem are you after? I have a couple lying around but they won’t be long. Similarly I have some bars but they may be too narrow, I think they will be 42. I’ll measure and photo them later.




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  11. @Teocalli

    What length Stem are you after? I have a couple lying around but they won’t be long. Similarly I have some bars but they may be too narrow, I think they will be 42. I’ll measure and photo them later.

    I ride 42cm bars on my race bikes. I’m more concerned with drop and reach and shape – I like bars with room in a couple of positions for my hands (which are quite big). The cheapie ones that came on an old alloy Felt my mate had and gave me are perfect – they currently reside on my F75 and I’m not going to take the front end apart to get them off.
    Stem length – no idea. One of the things I was going to do today while I attend my office was compare the AR1 and F75 geometries to try and work that out. I’d probably start with 100mm.



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  12. @RobSandy

    I have a 3T ergonova pro handlebar in 42 c-t-c 44 outer that may work for you. Looks like I sold the longer stems I had just have a short 80mm one.




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  13. @RobSandy




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  14. @Teocalli

    @RobSandy

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    They look just the job, I must say.




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  15. @RobSandy

    You can have them, PM me your address – or the one you want them sent to! – and I’ll get them in the post.

    “Free from a mate” should help with the budget radar – need me to include a receipt for £0.00?




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  16. @Teocalli

    Serious, sure you don’t want anything for them?

    I’ll PM you now though. Gift horses and all that…




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  17. @RobSandy

    Yeah, had them lying around for a while. Bought them for my #9 bike but the shape didn’t work for me. Good to see them go to a good home.




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  18. @RobSandy

    In the post……..




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  19. @Teocalli

    Wow, you’re an absolute gent.

    *doffs cap*




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  20. @Teocalli

    @RobSandy

    In the post……..

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    Also currently tracking my bike…




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  21. I have tracked down my old race bike and will be reacquiring it after a gap of nearly 30 years. It remains largely as I sold it and still ridden and enjoyed which brings a small tear to my eye. I did ride it last week and what a delightful machine it is.

    As befits a machine of its heritage, it will be refreshed with an Italian drivetrain and wheels with a view to enjoy long into the future.

    Can’t wait.




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  22. An aside, it has the front wheel I built all those long years still on it, running true and smooth. Campag hub, DT Swiss spokes, Mavic rim. Enough said.




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  23. @Keith

    An aside, it has the front wheel I built all those long years still on it, running true and smooth. Campag hub, DT Swiss spokes, Mavic rim. Enough said.

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    i had the same wheels on my Merckx Corsa. smooth as butter. i’m sure they’re still going strong for somebody, if they haven’t been wrecked.




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  24. @Keith

    I have tracked down my old race bike and will be reacquiring it after a gap of nearly 30 years. It remains largely as I sold it and still ridden and enjoyed which brings a small tear to my eye. I did ride it last week and what a delightful machine it is.

    As befits a machine of its heritage, it will be refreshed with an Italian drivetrain and wheels with a view to enjoy long into the future.

    Can’t wait.




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    gorgeous bike, btw.




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  25. @Keith

    I have tracked down my old race bike and will be reacquiring it after a gap of nearly 30 years. It remains largely as I sold it and still ridden and enjoyed which brings a small tear to my eye. I did ride it last week and what a delightful machine it is.

    As befits a machine of its heritage, it will be refreshed with an Italian drivetrain and wheels with a view to enjoy long into the future.

    Can’t wait.

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    Sweet bike and cool story, thanks for sharing.

    What on earth is that bag though?




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  26. Tick tock, tick tock…




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  27. @RobSandy

    @Keith

    I have tracked down my old race bike and will be reacquiring it after a gap of nearly 30 years. It remains largely as I sold it and still ridden and enjoyed which brings a small tear to my eye. I did ride it last week and what a delightful machine it is.

    As befits a machine of its heritage, it will be refreshed with an Italian drivetrain and wheels with a view to enjoy long into the future.

    Can’t wait.

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    Sweet bike and cool story, thanks for sharing.

    What on earth is that bag though?

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    Gorgeous bike indeed! As for the bag, my guess is a small ping pong paddle.




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  28. @chris

    @sthilzy

    @Teocalli

    It has arrived, so I can now unveil Il Progetto. Felt AR1, came with seatpost, saddle, and Ultegra 6800 FD and RD included.

    All Ultegra components are now roughly 50% off so I’ll be able to get this on the road for a totally wife-pleasing budget.




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  29. @RobSandy

    @chris

    @sthilzy

    @Teocalli

    It has arrived, so I can now unveil Il Progetto. Felt AR1, came with seatpost, saddle, and Ultegra 6800 FD and RD included.

    All Ultegra components are now roughly 50% off so I’ll be able to get this on the road for a totally wife-pleasing budget.

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    Ooh, that looks nice. and a bit quick. Are the seat stays lugged at the top or is that some sort of fairing?




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  30. @chris

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    Ooh, that looks nice. and a bit quick. Are the seat stays lugged at the top or is that some sort of fairing?

    They are supposed to be awesome frames. The full bike went for £6800 in 2012, albeit with full Dura Ace Di2 and Mavic Cosmics. I’m not going to tell you how much I paid for the frameset + derailleurs, or how much it’s going to cost to put the full bike together.
    It’s a fairing for extra awesome speediness.




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  31. @RobSandy

    @chris

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    Ooh, that looks nice. and a bit quick. Are the seat stays lugged at the top or is that some sort of fairing?

    It’s a fairing for extra awesome speediness.

    That much carbone must provide additional stiffness.




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  32. @chris

    @RobSandy

    @chris

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    Ooh, that looks nice. and a bit quick. Are the seat stays lugged at the top or is that some sort of fairing?

    It’s a fairing for extra awesome speediness.

    That much carbone must provide additional stiffness.

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    Said the bishop to the actress. Put some wheels and the bars Mr Teocalli provided on last night so I could pretend it was a real bike. I need a +-17 degree stem. And why did they fit such a huge tall cone spacer as the top race of the headset on an aero road bike? I need to get something lower there.




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  33. @Keith

    I have tracked down my old race bike and will be reacquiring it after a gap of nearly 30 years. It remains largely as I sold it and still ridden and enjoyed which brings a small tear to my eye. I did ride it last week and what a delightful machine it is.

    As befits a machine of its heritage, it will be refreshed with an Italian drivetrain and wheels with a view to enjoy long into the future.

    Can’t wait.

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    Are those Modolo or Weinmann brake levers/brakes? Helmet Brancale Giro?




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  34. @RobSandy

    @chris

    @RobSandy

    @chris

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    Ooh, that looks nice. and a bit quick. Are the seat stays lugged at the top or is that some sort of fairing?

    It’s a fairing for extra awesome speediness.

    That much carbone must provide additional stiffness.

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    Said the bishop to the actress. Put some wheels and the bars Mr Teocalli provided on last night so I could pretend it was a real bike. I need a +-17 degree stem. And why did they fit such a huge tall cone spacer as the top race of the headset on an aero road bike? I need to get something lower there.

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    I have a 17′ stem 120mm not using……




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  35. @sthilzy

    @RobSandy

    @chris

    @RobSandy

    @chris

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    Ooh, that looks nice. and a bit quick. Are the seat stays lugged at the top or is that some sort of fairing?

    It’s a fairing for extra awesome speediness.

    That much carbone must provide additional stiffness.

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    Said the bishop to the actress. Put some wheels and the bars Mr Teocalli provided on last night so I could pretend it was a real bike. I need a +-17 degree stem. And why did they fit such a huge tall cone spacer as the top race of the headset on an aero road bike? I need to get something lower there.

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    I have a 17′ stem 120mm not using……

    That’s a really kind offer, I think 120mm would be too long however.

    I’ll have the same geo as with my current ride if I have a 100mm -17deg and a lower headset cap – I will try and get more stretched out but the saddle is a good 30mm further forwards so it makes sense to slide it back rather than lengthen the stem.




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  36. @RobSandy

    @sthilzy

    @RobSandy

    @chris

    @RobSandy

    @chris

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    Ooh, that looks nice. and a bit quick. Are the seat stays lugged at the top or is that some sort of fairing?

    It’s a fairing for extra awesome speediness.

    That much carbone must provide additional stiffness.

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    Said the bishop to the actress. Put some wheels and the bars Mr Teocalli provided on last night so I could pretend it was a real bike. I need a +-17 degree stem. And why did they fit such a huge tall cone spacer as the top race of the headset on an aero road bike? I need to get something lower there.

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    I have a 17′ stem 120mm not using……

    That’s a really kind offer, I think 120mm would be too long however.

    I’ll have the same geo as with my current ride if I have a 100mm -17deg and a lower headset cap – I will try and get more stretched out but the saddle is a good 30mm further forwards so it makes sense to slide it back rather than lengthen the stem.

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    There isn’t a flat spacer under the cone? There was on my SuperSix. Otherwise slamthatstem.com?




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  37. @chris

    It’s an integrated stem as was with my F75. Basically the compression ring sits up from the top bearing – the top cone fits on this and I assume provides some sort of seal.

    I fitted a slamthatstem cover to the F75 but you can see it doesn’t seal at all. I wasn’t that worried and now I have a new race bike I’ll go back to the higher top cap.

    I want to do it ‘proper’ on the new bike. I think replacing the whole headset might be easiest.




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  38. @RobSandy

    I meant integrated headset, not integrated stem.




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  39. @sthilzy

    The brake levers were carbon of some sort, but now have Campag levers. The brakes are Campag painted white for some reason and work poorly in their current condition. The bag is the spares container of the day but would indeed suit a very small ping pong paddle.

    Oh yes, the helmet was indeed a Brancale of some sort, famous for its great style and smelling like a locker room. I don’t miss it at all.




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  40. I’m trying to get rid of some 105 5700 shifters, and random aluminum parts:

    https://harrisburg.craigslist.org/bop/6307518398.html




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  41. i TOLD ya i was gonna build TWO!! har har

    it’s the same as my other Gran Crit, except this one is Columbus Cromor, while the other is Reynolds 525. i will likely build this one with Shimano RS 30 wheels, so it will come in a bit heavier, at 21-1/2 lbs. same 6700 Ultegra, Ritchey cockpit, Prologo saddle, Nitto seatpost.




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  42. @Cary

    So many bikes!

    I’m already getting impatient about my new build.

    I’ve decided that the one job I need my mech to do is to replace the headset – the one that came with the bike about a 30mm rise. What’s the point of that on an aero race bike? Anyway, I’ll see if he can replace it with one that is flat.

    The rest I’m going to do myself. But I don’t want to start until the headset is sorted.




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  43. @RobSandy

    @Cary

    So many bikes!

    I’m already getting impatient about my new build.

    I’ve decided that the one job I need my mech to do is to replace the headset – the one that came with the bike about a 30mm rise. What’s the point of that on an aero race bike? Anyway, I’ll see if he can replace it with one that is flat.

    The rest I’m going to do myself. But I don’t want to start until the headset is sorted.

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    in addition to twin Masis, my wife and i also have twin humans that will be two years old next week. n+1 is done for a few years.. lol we need a bigger house!




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  44. @Cary

    . lol we need a bigger house!

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    We’re looking for a smaller house nearer the coast but with a bigger bike room!




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  45. @Teocalli

    @Cary

    . lol we need a bigger house!

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    We’re looking for a smaller house nearer the coast but with a bigger bike room!

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    my next house will be in the ‘burbs, as i can’t afford adequate property downtown. my LAST house, otoh, will be at the end of a long and nameless road, in the middle of nowhere!




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  46. @Teocalli

    @Cary

    . lol we need a bigger house!

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    We’re looking for a smaller house nearer the coast but with a bigger bike room!

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    I went round to the house I know through our cycling club for some assistance with putting the kiddie cranks together for the tandem. I saw no evidence of any living space. It was all bikes.

    He had at least 5 road bikes and 5 mountain bikes in the front room. He also had a tandem frame which he had got resprayed and not built back up. It was still in the bubble wrap. He said it’d been like that for 3 years.




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  47. @sthilzy

    Woot, found a 3T 17 degree stem on ebay for £30. It’s 110mm not 100mm…but worth a try at that price.

    A buddy is going to lend me a Felt 100mm 17 deg too so I can try them both.

    I want my position on the bike to be as low, stretched and aero as possible.




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  48. This may provoke amusement/recognition.

    This is what I’m currently keeping in a box under my desk.




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  49. You wouldn’t be hiding that stuff from someone, would you? Or are you going for the honest, but slightly ambiguous “Oh, I’ve had this stuff for ages.” line?




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  50. @wiscot

    You wouldn’t be hiding that stuff from someone, would you? Or are you going for the honest, but slightly ambiguous “Oh, I’ve had this stuff for ages.” line?

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    No idea what you mean old chap. Wink.




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