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Bikes of The Tour 2013

Bikes of The Tour 2013

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How can we not talk about the Tour? After Sunday’s stage it’s hard not to be a little excited. Until yesterday the most thrilling thing I had seen was Mark Cavendish’s mad man chase back to the peloton after a late-in-the-race crash. He needed to get back quickly as the race was hurtling toward a sprint finish he was supposed to win. Happily there was a TV moto trying to follow him. For much of the chase he was without teammates, picking his way through the following convoy at high speed, jumping curbs, drafting cars very close, zipping around everything with millimeters to spare. He is a sprinter. These scenes are happening during every stage but the TV viewers miss almost all of it.

And now the rant…

Are all carbon monocoque bikes getting uglier as their computer aided design becomes more and more functional? Engineers are designing for a combination of aerodynamics, weight, stiffness but badass looks are not a design parameter. BMC has been crowing about some new software that produces the best design after a zillion Monte Carlo simulations but man, that damn thing is not pretty. All the monocoque frames must be heading toward the same computer derived solution, but not quite yet. 

I’m sorry to offend Pinarello owners but the new Dogma is incrementally uglier than all the other preceding ugly Dogmas. It pains me to say this. I am a devout Italophile and longtime admirerer of Pinarello bikes. And I’m the one around here lecturing about form following function, but this bike is wrong. I realize the kinky stays and fork blades are shaped that way for performance, aren’t they? The frame looks like it stayed in the easy-bake oven too long and everything got a bit wobbly before it cooled.  The front fork is a horror, the seat stays are bent the wrong direction, the chain stays don’t match.

The all carbon-weave clear coat frames are boring. Pinarello takes a lot of pride in their paint and for that I salute them. Luckily Sky’s and Movistar’s bikes are painted glossy and dark. It’s harder to see just how nasty the front fork is. With all the frame designs stuttering toward the same solution, it’s the paint that sets them apart. Matte black Orbeas and Bianchis look nearly identical until the orange or celeste paint goes on.

Trek has also been into the paint for its frames. Thankfully one doesn’t see a carbon clear-coat Madone. They have a new weight- saving paint this year and for the Tour they unleashed a beautiful mono-pantone  “lei ‘o pard blue” (not to be confused with leopard blue) for the Shack rides. Now that is a paint job! The new Madone is ugly. There, I said it, but the damn paint saves its kammtail ass. Its head tube, or what used to be the head tube looks clumsy. At least the Trek bikes have a proper front fork and it’s painted that great color, as is the seat mast. Would I like the Pinarello if it was painted up like this? Yes I’d like it a lot more but I can’t get around the wavy fork. The first time I saw a steel Colnago with straight fork I fell in love. It shouldn’t even work but does. I’d never considered that a front fork could be straight. Straight fork yes, wavy fork no. Is it just me? Obviously it is as every Pinarello has a noodle fork and they are selling nicely. What does Ernesto Colnago say about a Pinarello? Believe me, I wish I knew. The Colnago C-59 is a fantastic looking bike and if that was painted completely “leopard” blue, my head might explode.

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    @frank

    It has to be said, I’m beyond enamored with my Veloforma CCX’s design and paintjob! Rode the shit out of it last week and it just kept taking and taking and taking whatever I laid into it. Amazing.

    Is that an EPMS there? Or are my eyes deceiving me?

  2. @Souleur

    Here is how bad it has gotten with the cookie cutting carbon, when Cannondale has as good looking bike out in the peloton…guys, really?? Where did the Euro pimping character leave and go to??

    That does sum it up. Cannondale with a good looking bike. But like @Joe says, Europcar’s Colnago C-59s are mighty handsome still. Their black and metallic green frames of last year drove me nuts too. To each his own, unless the other guy has crap taste.

  3. @lordmoos3

    I suspect a spare sew-up. It better not be an EPMS or I’m going back to one tomorrow.

  4. @Gianni

    @lordmoos3

    I suspect a spare sew-up. It better not be an EPMS or I’m going back to one tomorrow.

    I know they’re OK on MtBs in certain circumstances, but that’s @frank’s CX bike yes? How does that rule apply to a CX?

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    @frank

    It has to be said, I’m beyond enamored with my Veloforma CCX’s design and paintjob! Rode the shit out of it last week and it just kept taking and taking and taking whatever I laid into it. Amazing.

    Is that an EPMS there? Or are my eyes deceiving me?

    @Gianni

    @lordmoos3

    I suspect a spare sew-up. It better not be an EPMS or I’m going back to one tomorrow.

    Fuck me, seriously? Fucking SERIOUSLY? Me, an EPMS? I’m not prone to experiment with rule violations the way a college kit experiments with sexual orientation. I’m not Brett, for fucks sake. Come the fuck on.

    Its a spare fucking tub.

  6. I’m kind of digging the rear brake setup on the Trek but would be interested to read the rants and musings of the collective on this point…

     

    Trek Madone

  7. Apologies. The angle had me thinking you were committing heresy. I was wrong to doubt.

  8. @frank I require a map or names of the gravel routes you rode. I’ll be there for two weeks next month.

    Also, I found a bunch of nice gravel routes in Cle Elum, only 90 minutes from Seattle. Have maps.

  9. @Deakus

    @Deakus

    Not a fan of the trek colour or styling…..it’s like trying to copy bianchis celeste but asking a five year old to draw it! For me, and I hate to say it, the Taiwanese are knocking the spots off the Italians this year, those dark blue and black Giants with the gum wall tyres are stunning!

    This is the one..

    Hmm just discovered a bulge in N1s rear tyre (pays to do the pre ride inspection!) but it does mean I am in the market for a new set of rubber hoops for the lady.  Any ideas?  I know this time round (having tried the vittoria open corsa winter tyres) that I definitely want an open cotton tyre so was thinking vittorias or veloflex but I am leanding towards the latter because they do a gumwall version in the “Master” but wondered if anyone knew what these Giants were running (yes I now they will be tubs) because that gumwall looks almost yellow!

  10. @kixsand

    I’m kind of digging ae Trek would be interestedad the rants and musings of the collec on this point…

    Trek Madone

    The Lion of Flanders had this set up on his steed back in April. He didn’t like it much – only for pros with full time mechanics.

  11. @Ivor Campbell I heard similar sentiment from the guy at my LBS. He said they were cool looking, good for aero, but a cast iron bitch to keep maintained.

  12. @Ivor Campbell

    @kixsand

    I’m kind of digging ae Trek would be interestedad the rants and musings of the collec on this point…

    Trek Madone

    The Lion of Flanders had this set up on his steed back in April. He didn’t like it much – only for pros with full time mechanics.

    My buddies who race for Trek Midwest all complain about modulation – while giving the performance edge to the DA over the Bontrager version. The word is you get too much too soon when applying the levers. I was hoping Trek would offer a traditional side-pull option for 2014, but it is not to be.

  13. @gregorio

    @Ivor Campbell

    @kixsand

    I’m kind of digging ae Trek would be interestedad the rants and musings of the collec on this point…

    Trek Madone

    The Lion of Flanders had this set up on his steed back in April. He didn’t like it much – only for pros with full time mechanics.

    My buddies who race for Trek Midwest all complain about modulation – while giving the performance edge to the DA over the Bontrager version. The word is you get too much too soon when applying the levers. I was hoping Trek would offer a traditional side-pull option for 2014, but it is not to be.

    perhaps its cleaner, but in a way, it’ll be a pain if your on a rainy day, or anything comes up from the road, then it will tend to pick up alot more grime

    like said above, if your name starts and ends in Spartacus, with a full time wrench, go for it.  only his guns would appreciate the drag effeciency of it being down low like this

  14. With all the colour schemes to choose from the project one collection it’s a shame they didn’t go with a more flashy one, like  the blue flamey one on my madone. which i have a photo of but can’t upload.

  15. I could not agree more with @frank on the straight tubes point – especially when it comes to the top tube. What looks worse than a bike with a curved top tube is an entry level bike with a curved top tube and external cable routing, with the straight line of the cable under the tube somehow looking completely out of place. Very unclean, in my humble opinion.

  16. @gregorio

    Is the rear brake cable internal? Silly old school question, eh? Of course it is. Those seat stays do look rather tidy, it’s a weird sight, seat stays without a brake bridge. I think even most track bikes have something across the stays even though they don’t have a brake. As far as having the brake caliper “way down there”, I guess it’s not too much wetter and road grimy under the chain stay than above the seat stays.

    But yeah, I like it’s basic clean look, one step closer to what disc brakes will look like.

  17. @kixsand

    I’m kind of digging the rear brake setup on the Trek but would be interested to read the rants and musings of the collective on this point…

    Trek Madone

    I remember back in the 80s a lot of mountain bikes had u-brakes behind the BB. Of course, it probably worked just fine in sunny, dry Marin County but try riding on a muddy track in Scotland for a while then see how well your rear brake works and how easy it is to clean! I can’t ee it being too much of an issue o a road bike though . . .

  18. @kixsand

    I’m kind of digging the rear brake setup on the Trek but would be interested to read the rants and musings of the collective on this point…

    Trek Madone

    Museeuw’s bike he was riding on Keepers Tour had that setup. Useless, in his words. It makes sense to me to put the front brake behind the fork because it gives it something to push against. Similarly, the brake in its traditional position on the rear has the same thing. I think having it down there basically just softens up the rear braking.

    But this is all based on the idea that anyone would ever use their brakes, which obviously I never do. I’m not a sissy.

  19. @G’rilla

    @frank I require a map or names of the gravel routes you rode. I’ll be there for two weeks next month.

    Also, I found a bunch of nice gravel routes in Cle Elum, only 90 minutes from Seattle. Have maps.

    AWESOME! We will need to discuss over pre-emptive recovery beverages.

  20. @Deakus

    @Deakus

    @Deakus

    Not a fan of the trek colour or styling…..it’s like trying to copy bianchis celeste but asking a five year old to draw it! For me, and I hate to say it, the Taiwanese are knocking the spots off the Italians this year, those dark blue and black Giants with the gum wall tyres are stunning!

    This is the one..

    Hmm just discovered a bulge in N1s rear tyre (pays to do the pre ride inspection!) but it does mean I am in the market for a new set of rubber hoops for the lady. Any ideas? I know this time round (having tried the vittoria open corsa winter tyres) that I definitely want an open cotton tyre so was thinking vittorias or veloflex but I am leanding towards the latter because they do a gumwall version in the “Master” but wondered if anyone knew what these Giants were running (yes I now they will be tubs) because that gumwall looks almost yellow!

    That looks like a Rabo/Blanco/Belkin team bike, which means it would be Vittoria, no? Corsa CX (or open in your case). If you ride roads with lots of debris, these will cut up quickly. For a good durable tire, the Conti GP4000S is a great tire. The ride is no where near as delicate as the Vits or Veloflex’s, but they will last longer.

    I love the Veloflex tubs I have on the Haleakalas.

  21. @frank

    @Deakus

    @Deakus

    @Deakus

    Not a fan of the trek colour or styling…..it’s like trying to copy bianchis celeste but asking a five year old to draw it! For me, and I hate to say it, the Taiwanese are knocking the spots off the Italians this year, those dark blue and black Giants with the gum wall tyres are stunning!

    This is the one..

    Hmm just discovered a bulge in N1s rear tyre (pays to do the pre ride inspection!) but it does mean I am in the market for a new set of rubber hoops for the lady. Any ideas? I know this time round (having tried the vittoria open corsa winter tyres) that I definitely want an open cotton tyre so was thinking vittorias or veloflex but I am leanding towards the latter because they do a gumwall version in the “Master” but wondered if anyone knew what these Giants were running (yes I now they will be tubs) because that gumwall looks almost yellow!

    That looks like a Rabo/Blanco/Belkin team bike, which means it would be Vittoria, no? Corsa CX (or open in your case). If you ride roads with lots of debris, these will cut up quickly. For a good durable tire, the Conti GP4000S is a great tire. The ride is no where near as delicate as the Vits or Veloflex’s, but they will last longer.

    I love the Veloflex tubs I have on the Haleakalas.

    Understood but I have fallen in love with the ride…so come what may it will be cotton clinchers for me..if the local roads are too bad I will just have to move house!

  22. @Deakus

    @frank

    @Deakus

    @Deakus

    @Deakus

    Not a fan of the trek colour or styling…..it’s like trying to copy bianchis celeste but asking a five year old to draw it! For me, and I hate to say it, the Taiwanese are knocking the spots off the Italians this year, those dark blue and black Giants with the gum wall tyres are stunning!

    This is the one..

    Hmm just discovered a bulge in N1s rear tyre (pays to do the pre ride inspection!) but it does mean I am in the market for a new set of rubber hoops for the lady. Any ideas? I know this time round (having tried the vittoria open corsa winter tyres) that I definitely want an open cotton tyre so was thinking vittorias or veloflex but I am leanding towards the latter because they do a gumwall version in the “Master” but wondered if anyone knew what these Giants were running (yes I now they will be tubs) because that gumwall looks almost yellow!

    That looks like a Rabo/Blanco/Belkin team bike, which means it would be Vittoria, no? Corsa CX (or open in your case). If you ride roads with lots of debris, these will cut up quickly. For a good durable tire, the Conti GP4000S is a great tire. The ride is no where near as delicate as the Vits or Veloflex’s, but they will last longer.

    I love the Veloflex tubs I have on the Haleakalas.

    Understood but I have fallen in love with the ride…so come what may it will be cotton clinchers for me..if the local roads are too bad I will just have to move house!

    I have been running Veloflex Master 25s all summer, very good tires, you may want to seal the sidewall though, mine are really dirty and don’t come clean.

  23. ’nuff said.  Waiting for an all steel return to the throne.

  24. @Deakus

    @Deakus

    @Deakus

    Not a fan of the trek colour or styling…..it’s like trying to copy bianchis celeste but asking a five year old to draw it! For me, and I hate to say it, the Taiwanese are knocking the spots off the Italians this year, those dark blue and black Giants with the gum wall tyres are stunning!

    This is the one..

    Hmm just discovered a bulge in N1s rear tyre (pays to do the pre ride inspection!) but it does mean I am in the market for a new set of rubber hoops for the lady. Any ideas? I know this time round (having tried the vittoria open corsa winter tyres) that I definitely want an open cotton tyre so was thinking vittorias or veloflex but I am leanding towards the latter because they do a gumwall version in the “Master” but wondered if anyone knew what these Giants were running (yes I now they will be tubs) because that gumwall looks almost yellow!

    Not sure how it will go over here, but the other option you have for gumwall clinchers are the Panaracer Grand Bois series.  I’ve never used them, but have heard good things, and they are available in 23, 26 and 29mm versions depending on what kind of clearances you’ve got.  The 23mm tires are also available in an Extra Leger (extra light) version that is reportedly even more supple, but less durable.  You can check them all out here  

  25. @VeloVita thanks in the end I ordered a couple of vittoria open corsa sc tyres, they should be on the bike Monday.

  26. @frank

    @kixsand

    I’m kind of digging the rear brake setup on the Trek but would be interested to read the rants and musings of the collective on this point…

    Trek Madone

    Museeuw’s bike he was riding on Keepers Tour had that setup. Useless, in his words. It makes sense to me to put the front brake behind the fork because it gives it something to push against. Similarly, the brake in its traditional position on the rear has the same thing. I think having it down there basically just softens up the rear braking.

    But this is all based on the idea that anyone would ever use their brakes, which obviously I never do. I’m not a sissy.

    I can see the appeal of the direct mount brakes, especially making the rear brake a lot stronger but the location bites. Direct mount brakes would probably require a fairly heavily redesigned stay and brake bridge, which would be a far more suitable solution. Aero benefits from the rear brake can suck it, you’ve got to be fucking kidding me. Maybe without a rider on the bike or at 79 degrees of yaw, but really.

  27. All bikes desire to grow up and become a Cervelo

  28. @Gervelo

    All bikes desire to grow up and become a Cervelo

    Happily we strangle most of those ones at birth.

  29. @ChrisO

    ha!

    in Toronto there is a Cervelo everywhere you turn. Maybe because of the local connection. Probably a more common even specialized or Drek (not a typo – translate it from Yiddish!). Especially amongst the CSS crowd.

  30. @cantona

    @ChrisO

    ha!

    in Toronto there is a Cervelo everywhere you turn. Maybe because of the local connection. Probably a more common even specialized or Drek (not a typo – translate it from Yiddish!). Especially amongst the CSS crowd.

    How popular is Argon 18 over there…another Canadian brand, I love mine but you hardly see them at all in UK (another good reason to ride them)…

  31. @Deakus

    i don’t see as many Argon 18’s as Cervelos, but they are definitely increasing in popularity. I just bought my new Wilier at a shooter that sells tons of Argon 18’s and they look beautiful.

  32. @cantona

    @Deakus

    i don’t see as many Argon 18″²s as Cervelos, but they are definitely increasing in popularity. I just bought my new Wilier at a shooter that sells tons of Argon 18″²s and they look beautiful.

    I got mine from the LBS as an “end of line” they stopped selling them in the end, not because they did not like them but because they said Argon 18 were a nightmare to deal with on distribution.  They got their supply chain wrong and over supplied in the UK.  When they realised this rather, than allow their LBS distribution network to discount they forced them to sell at full price and then direct flooded the market through online discounters effectively hamstringing their distribution channel and pulling the rug from under  them.

    In the end my LBS said “fuck it” and stopped selling them.   They now stock Trek, Giant, Wilier and Look.  My Argon Frame is stunning and rides beautifully, also has their 3D headset which means you can be rule compliant on spacers without adopting an @Frank contortionist position to ride, leaving room for me to work hard at my diaghramatic breathing!

  33. @VeloVita The Vittoria Open Corsa SCs have arrived…piccies to follow later on!

  34. @Deakus

    the poor business decisions of small bicycle companies never cease to amaze me

  35. @Deakus

    @Deakus

    @Deakus

    Not a fan of the trek colour or styling…..it’s like trying to copy bianchis celeste but asking a five year old to draw it! For me, and I hate to say it, the Taiwanese are knocking the spots off the Italians this year, those dark blue and black Giants with the gum wall tyres are stunning!

    This is the one..

    Hmm just discovered a bulge in N1s rear tyre (pays to do the pre ride inspection!) but it does mean I am in the market for a new set of rubber hoops for the lady. Any ideas? I know this time round (having tried the vittoria open corsa winter tyres) that I definitely want an open cotton tyre so was thinking vittorias or veloflex but I am leanding towards the latter because they do a gumwall version in the “Master” but wondered if anyone knew what these Giants were running (yes I now they will be tubs) because that gumwall looks almost yellow!

    You know how it is…you have been with her a while, she does not bother so much any more and neither do you.  You start to look at other women, those beautiful lines, classic touches, why is my lady not like that anymore.  Then you discover that little something, the additional touch, so that you can ride her with a smoother stroke, the little dress that makes her look a million dollars.  All those other girls in red and black…

    Well here she is, the Vittoria Open Corsa SC’s are fitted and despite my initial concerns over colour clashes, the little yellow dress fits her perfectly and I am once again fully in love…no make that lust!

    Can’t wait to ride her.

  36. Oh man – this stage has some excitement!  GC and Sprint consequences already strong possibilities. Flat Stage & crosswinds are a good combo.  Keep in mind that the route today pretty much is in a straight direction from start to finish, so this wind should be constant the whole stage.

    Can Kittel get back?  Will Belkin, Saxo, and BMC take turns on the front to keep Valverde away??  Will Omega have enough for the end?  Good stuff!

  37. @Tartan1749

    Oh man – this stage has some excitement! GC and Sprint consequences already strong possibilities. Flat Stage & crosswinds are a good combo. Keep in mind that the route today pretty much is in a straight direction from start to finish, so this wind should be constant the whole stage.

    Can Kittel get back? Will Belkin, Saxo, and BMC take turns on the front to keep Valverde away?? Will Omega have enough for the end? Good stuff!

    At last….just need vroomy to have a mechanical now or maybe a fall?!

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    @Deakus

    @Deakus

    @Deakus

    @Deakus

    Not a fan of the trek colour or styling…..it’s like trying to copy bianchis celeste but asking a five year old to draw it! For me, and I hate to say it, the Taiwanese are knocking the spots off the Italians this year, those dark blue and black Giants with the gum wall tyres are stunning!

    This is the one..

    Hmm just discovered a bulge in N1s rear tyre (pays to do the pre ride inspection!) but it does mean I am in the market for a new set of rubber hoops for the lady. Any ideas? I know this time round (having tried the vittoria open corsa winter tyres) that I definitely want an open cotton tyre so was thinking vittorias or veloflex but I am leanding towards the latter because they do a gumwall version in the “Master” but wondered if anyone knew what these Giants were running (yes I now they will be tubs) because that gumwall looks almost yellow!

    You know how it is…you have been with her a while, she does not bother so much any more and neither do you. You start to look at other women, those beautiful lines, classic touches, why is my lady not like that anymore. Then you discover that little something, the additional touch, so that you can ride her with a smoother stroke, the little dress that makes her look a million dollars. All those other girls in red and black…

    Well here she is, the Vittoria Open Corsa SC’s are fitted and despite my initial concerns over colour clashes, the little yellow dress fits her perfectly and I am once again fully in love…no make that lust!

    Can’t wait to ride her.

    That is a very nice looking bike – good call on the gumwalls!  I’m very tempted to pick up a pair once my G4000S wear out, but the roads around these parts are real shit and I doubt they’d hold up too well.  I like to ride while I’m out, not change tubes and the Contis have always treated me well in that regard.

  39. @VeloVita ill report on how they go regarding punctures….I had conti GPS on before but I am looking forwards to the ride quality…

  40. @Deakus

    @VeloVita ill report on how they go regarding punctures….I had conti GPS on before but I am looking forwards to the ride quality…

    I know I’ll jinx myself by saying this, but so far, I’ve only had two flats in my lifetime.  I attribute this to always checking pressures before a ride and making reasonable attempts at avoiding road debris/broken pavement/etc and to not riding the lightest race tires and/or tubes.  I’d really love to try some really supple tires, but I’m not a small guy (192cm and around 91kg).  If all goes well for you, I may just give them a try.

  41. @Deakus Your lady looks mighty fine in those gumwalls. Very classy!

  42. @VeloVita

    @Deakus

    @VeloVita ill report on how they go regarding punctures….I had conti GPS on before but I am looking forwards to the ride quality…

    I know I’ll jinx myself by saying this, but so far, I’ve only had two flats in my lifetime. I attribute this to always checking pressures before a ride and making reasonable attempts at avoiding road debris/broken pavement/etc and to not riding the lightest race tires and/or tubes. I’d really love to try some really supple tires, but I’m not a small guy (192cm and around 91kg). If all goes well for you, I may just give them a try.

    Only 2 flats ever – do you ride solid pram wheels?

    My own stupid cak handedness has caused more flats!!

    Respect – I hope you haven’t tempted fate though…

  43. @Patrick

    @VeloVita

    @Deakus

    @VeloVita ill report on how they go regarding punctures….I had conti GPS on before but I am looking forwards to the ride quality…

    I know I’ll jinx myself by saying this, but so far, I’ve only had two flats in my lifetime. I attribute this to always checking pressures before a ride and making reasonable attempts at avoiding road debris/broken pavement/etc and to not riding the lightest race tires and/or tubes. I’d really love to try some really supple tires, but I’m not a small guy (192cm and around 91kg). If all goes well for you, I may just give them a try.

    Only 2 flats ever – do you ride solid pram wheels?

    My own stupid cak handedness has caused more flats!!

    Respect – I hope you haven’t tempted fate though…

    Believe me, I’m as surprised as anyone.  As for wheels, most of my kms have been done on 32 spoke Open Pros with either Conti Ultra, Gatorskin or GP400S tires, all in the 25mm size and at my weight (91kg) I run them at around 95psi in front and 110psi in the rear.  My current rims are 32 spoke Hed Belgium C2s and with the wider rim I run a little lower pressure on the tires – still so far so good.  And yes, I’m sure my next ride will be nothing but flats.

  44. @Deakus B E A utiful

  45. @Deakus Excellent, can’t wait to hear how it rides with those tyres.

    I like Trek, but when you get close to the new Madone team issue you’ll find that the piant job has glitter in it which makes it look like a 70s disco nightmare. It’s much more Dancing Queen than Bianchi.

    Imo, the new Scott Addict is the most aesthetically appealing road bike I’ve seen in the entire carbon area. While the Orica team issue looks ok, the black-red one is just sublime. No?

    http://www.roadbike.de/news/scott-addict-und-solace-zwei-neue-carbon-rennraeder-fuer-2014.812481.9.htm

     
  46. @kixsand I too thought it would collect crap, but it stays remarkably clean down there, I just lurve the naked seat stays, no brake look… and best of all, when I squeeze the lever, the bike slows down… :-)

  47. @kixsand I too thought it would collect crap, but it stays remarkably clean down there, I just lurve the naked seat stays, no brake look… and best of all, when I squeeze the lever, the bike slows down… :-)

  48. @VeloVita

    I know I’ll jinx myself by saying this, but so far, I’ve only had two flats in my lifetime. I attribute this to always checking pressures before a ride and making reasonable attempts at avoiding road debris/broken pavement/etc and to not riding the lightest race tires and/or tubes.

     

    How long have you been riding – two weeks???? Sheeet I’m on about my 25th tube this year! You must have some nice clean roads around your parts. I run Maxxis Re-fuse, on Open-pros as it happens. Inflate every morning before a ride, avoid debris where possible, check & clean the tyres for embeded stones/glass etc. etc. The roads around here are just covered in crap. :-(

  49. @Deakus And a head tube so tall only a OAP with welded vertebrae should be allowed to love…

    Is there a rule against tall head tubes? There should be one…

  50. @Gildas

    @Deakus And a head tube so tall only a OAP with welded vertebrae should be allowed to love…

    Is there a rule against tall head tubes? There should be one…

    If you had taken the time to read the rules you would know that there is one Rule #45

    However, Argon 18 is also slightly different in that they have a 3D head tube system which puts spacers below the head set race.  Traditionally the reason for minimising spacers above the head set race is to avoid the potential flex that you get from a long rise above the headset, the Argon 18 method in theory reduces this.

    Regardless of this, I do maintain the 4cm rule between saddle and headset.  I am 6ft 4in tall.  My choice was to buy a huge frame or get this one from the LBS, in stock and at a reduction.  As it happens I chose correctly, the bike is a dream to ride and as a result of this I ride it more than I would if I were put in some kind of contortionist position.  I don’t race (occassional sportive).  As it happens I do have 4 dehydrated and 2 herniated discs in my lower back.

    I claim no exemption, I simply state that this suits me and I am therefore unrepentant…VLVV.

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