Velominati Super Prestige: Tour de France 2012, Stage 16

Velominati Super Prestige: Tour de France 2012, Stage 16

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Which bold rider has this stage circled in their tour bible? Wednesday July 18th, Stage 16, 197 km. The day after a the final rest day. A climbing day with two HC climbs followed by two Category 1 climbs and a serious descent toward the finish. The Aubisque, Tourmalet, Aspin and Peyresourde: you better be a fearless climber and a good descender, but a better climber. This is not a stage for Sagan or Fränkie Schleck (sorry Frank). If Wiggo was going to have a bad day, this would be a special one to have it on. And this follows a rest day? Could the weather finally make a difference?  Will the mad tacker return? Will climbers just try to survive this stage to perform on the fearsome Stage 17? More questions than answers in the Velominati Super-Bunker.

All VSP bettors better give an extra shake of the monkey bones before casting them down. Study them well. There is much at stake: fi'zi:k R3s for the winner, 2 pair of DeFeet socks for first loser. The rules are the same as for the first single stage VSP. Points are awarded for correct place only. Delgado might have enjoyed this stage but don’t be like him.

 

 

// Velominati Super Prestige

  1. @mcsqueak

    @RedRanger

    Ah, I’m picking up what you’re putting down now. I’m a little slow.

    Yet another reason Frank really has to work on coding in some friendly emoticons.

    Emoticons!!??!! If Frank codes those on this site, I’m driving straight to his place and kicking him squarely in the twig and berries.

  2. @mcsqueak

    @RedRanger

    Oh, and I had to try and be cool by copying Scaler911, but that’s par for the course.

    That’s your first problem right there then…

  3. @versio

    Gone riding for the next 3 hours. Hope to return to this wonderful site for some positive-cycling-affirmation afterwards.

    This kind of affirmation?

  4. @scaler911

    @mcsqueak

    @RedRanger

    Ah, I’m picking up what you’re putting down now. I’m a little slow.

    Yet another reason Frank really has to work on coding in some friendly emoticons.

    Emoticons!!??!! If Frank codes those on this site, I’m driving straight to his place and kicking him squarely in the twig and berries.

    More likely is that I’ll add some code to remove them. Fuckin’ hate those things. Just say what you mean merckxdamnit and if you can’t take the time to express yourself fully, don’t say anything or do a piss-poor job of it and we’ll rip on you for a while and get a kick out of it.

  5. Hi, Welcome to VAA, Velominati Assholes Annonymous, lets get the meeting underway.

    Hi, I’m Minion and I’m an Asshole, (All; Hi MInion) I frequently disagree with comments on completely irrelevant points, for no other reason that arguing over arcane cycling facts or points of view for arguing’s sake. I spend time at work formulating smartarse responses to other posters, and use obnoxious images and videos from well known television shows and movies to try and make a humorous point.

    Problem, me? Fuck no I don’t have a problem. I blame Marcus, that fucker’s got it bad. And the rest of you lot, you’re ALL fucked.

    What 12 point plan? Step one’s 20 hour riding weeks?

    (apologies to teetotallers and people who have dealt with AA/NA that shit ain’t funny)

  6. @Bianchi Denti

    @minion

    @brett

    If it’s a slower, cleaner race, surely the naturally talented bike riders are going to emerge? Not that the rest of the peloton are  slouches, but Porte’s had a star over his head for a while, and Rogers? No question about his pedigree. Seems like an odd target to pick when half the Astana team have been done at least once for actually cheating

    http://www.cyclinginquisition.com/2012/06/victories-disappointments-and-how-epo.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_in_cycling

    Great article on Henry Cardenas. Thanks a million, Minion.

    Cheers, ironically if Bretto had read that article, he might have understood what I was getting at. But he didn’t have his Clifford the Big Red dog book with him, to look up the words he might not know.

  7. @scaler911 I voted for that guy.

  8. @Marko

    @scaler911 I voted for that guy.

    Ha! I gave him $5.

    I’d be more impressed if you voted for this guy:

  9. @DerHoggz

    A certain poster who will go unnamed seems to think he has “deep” posts.  In reality his posts are a sophomoric attempt at intelligent discourse, not too different from the garbage I handed in to my English professor last year (which would really make them freshmanic).  Need to pad up a word count, sweet, grab a thesaurus, then throw adjectives around like a madman.

    You just implied that “these” posts were deep. Grammar Queen! I am only disappointed at this “cycling” community with the observation that most all of my past and recent posts have been very simple. A few contributors here (unnamed) have been perplexed by these posts from the past. Even confused. And then they (unnamed) do not move on. No more to say, but I will continue to bait you thru this thread.

  10. OH, and one for all the dopers:

  11. @Buck Rogers

    Man, I’m sorry but I have to comment.  I really have tried to hold back but Frank, is there a chance of voting someone of the island around here?  Hell, you can vote me off if you want.  But, come on Frank, what do you say?

    Buck — man, I’m sorry but I have to comment. I visit this site often only to find that you are still licking balls in your clique.

    And sure, ask Frank to handle it. Vote me away from your community. Do as you see fit. (You guys really lose control)

    You may not like me as an online personality. But you would prefer me as a fellow cyclist that knows Campagnolo. Knows every spec on the machine that I ride. And continues to train, race and look to other fellow cyclist to further the experience. You and DerHoggz are becoming a real asses. You could use a punch in the face.

  12. @minion

    Hi, Welcome to VAA, Velominati Assholes Annonymous, lets get the meeting underway.

    Hi, I’m Minion and I’m an Asshole, (All; Hi MInion) I frequently disagree with comments on completely irrelevant points, for no other reason that arguing over arcane cycling facts or points of view for arguing’s sake. I spend time at work formulating smartarse responses to other posters, and use obnoxious images and videos from well known television shows and movies to try and make a humorous point.

    Problem, me? Fuck no I don’t have a problem. I blame Marcus, that fucker’s got it bad. And the rest of you lot, you’re ALL fucked.

    What 12 point plan? Step one’s 20 hour riding weeks?

    (apologies to teetotallers and people who have dealt with AA/NA that shit ain’t funny)

    Hello Minion. And thank you… thank you.

  13. @scaler911

    @versio

    Gone riding for the next 3 hours. Hope to return to this wonderful site for some positive-cycling-affirmation afterwards.

    This kind of affirmation?

    Yes, someone got it (positive-cycling-affirmation)! Like leaving a trail of candy for six-year olds.

  14. @Buck Rogers You make it easy in fact to realize that I should stop visiting this site. A long break would do me good (hurrah). And you can feel a sense of achievement by ridding me of this site (hurrah). I will at least check in to get good reports from the other contributors posts. And can try to discount any nonsense.

  15. @versio

    @Buck Rogers You make it easy in fact to realize that I should stop visiting this site. A long break would do me good (hurrah). And you can feel a sense of achievement by ridding me of this site (hurrah). I will at least check in to get good reports from the other contributors posts. And can try to discount any nonsense.

    You know what dude, go. You’re not only a fucking tool, you’re not even funny. You claim to “know Campagnolo (who here doesn’t), and then have the balls to admit that you’re going to bait people. You’re a fucking troll of the lowest common denominator. You have nothing to contribute through your barely coherent posts anyway. “Punch someone in the face”. Be gone with your bad self, and I can only hope to be side by side with you in the pack someday. Fuck you.

  16. @scaler911

    @versio

    @Buck Rogers You make it easy in fact to realize that I should stop visiting this site. A long break would do me good (hurrah). And you can feel a sense of achievement by ridding me of this site (hurrah). I will at least check in to get good reports from the other contributors posts. And can try to discount any nonsense.

    You know what dude, go. You’re not only a fucking tool, you’re not even funny. You claim to “know Campagnolo (who here doesn’t), and then have the balls to admit that you’re going to bait people. You’re a fucking troll of the lowest common denominator. You have nothing to contribute through your barely coherent posts anyway. “Punch someone in the face”. Be gone with your bad self, and I can only hope to be side by side with you in the pack someday. Fuck you.

    Just needed you to release me. You are the bigger man here.

  17. @minion

    @mcsqueak

    @RedRanger

    Oh, and I had to try and be cool by copying Scaler911, but that’s par for the course.

    That’s your first problem right there then…

    Ya. Can’t trust a thing that comes off my keyboard.

  18. @unnamed

    @scaler911

    @versio

    @Buck Rogers You make it easy in fact to realize that I should stop visiting this site. A long break would do me good (hurrah). And you can feel a sense of achievement by ridding me of this site (hurrah). I will at least check in to get good reports from the other contributors posts. And can try to discount any nonsense.

    You know what dude, go. You’re not only a fucking tool, you’re not even funny. You claim to “know Campagnolo (who here doesn’t), and then have the balls to admit that you’re going to bait people. You’re a fucking troll of the lowest common denominator. You have nothing to contribute through your barely coherent posts anyway. “Punch someone in the face”. Be gone with your bad self, and I can only hope to be side by side with you in the pack someday. Fuck you.

    Just needed you to release me. You are the bigger man here.

    So now you’re just going to log in with different WordPress accounts. Who’s the child here? Go clean your chain or something. How was that 3hour ride anyway? If you can type, you didn’t go hard enough.

  19. @scaler911

    @unnamed

    @scaler911

    @versio

    @Buck Rogers You make it easy in fact to realize that I should stop visiting this site. A long break would do me good (hurrah). And you can feel a sense of achievement by ridding me of this site (hurrah). I will at least check in to get good reports from the other contributors posts. And can try to discount any nonsense.

    You know what dude, go. You’re not only a fucking tool, you’re not even funny. You claim to “know Campagnolo (who here doesn’t), and then have the balls to admit that you’re going to bait people. You’re a fucking troll of the lowest common denominator. You have nothing to contribute through your barely coherent posts anyway. “Punch someone in the face”. Be gone with your bad self, and I can only hope to be side by side with you in the pack someday. Fuck you.

    Just needed you to release me. You are the bigger man here.

    So now you’re just going to log in with different WordPress accounts. Who’s the child here? Go clean your chain or something. How was that 3hour ride anyway? If you can type, you didn’t go hard enough.

    You can easily update your nickname in the account. I asked Frank to delete my profile if it was at all possible. The route went faster than expected. Grow up.

  20. @unnamed

    @scaler911

    @unnamed

    @scaler911

    @versio

    @Buck Rogers You make it easy in fact to realize that I should stop visiting this site. A long break would do me good (hurrah). And you can feel a sense of achievement by ridding me of this site (hurrah). I will at least check in to get good reports from the other contributors posts. And can try to discount any nonsense.

    You know what dude, go. You’re not only a fucking tool, you’re not even funny. You claim to “know Campagnolo (who here doesn’t), and then have the balls to admit that you’re going to bait people. You’re a fucking troll of the lowest common denominator. You have nothing to contribute through your barely coherent posts anyway. “Punch someone in the face”. Be gone with your bad self, and I can only hope to be side by side with you in the pack someday. Fuck you.

    Just needed you to release me. You are the bigger man here.

    So now you’re just going to log in with different WordPress accounts. Who’s the child here? Go clean your chain or something. How was that 3hour ride anyway? If you can type, you didn’t go hard enough.

    You can easily update your nickname in the account. I asked Frank to delete my profile if it was at all possible. The route went faster than expected. Grow up.

    The last thing I’ll say to you. Deleting your account and coming back with a different handle somehow is going to make you more palatable? Grow up indeed.

  21. @scaler911

    @unnamed

    @scaler911

    @unnamed

    @scaler911

    @versio

    @Buck Rogers You make it easy in fact to realize that I should stop visiting this site. A long break would do me good (hurrah). And you can feel a sense of achievement by ridding me of this site (hurrah). I will at least check in to get good reports from the other contributors posts. And can try to discount any nonsense.

    You know what dude, go. You’re not only a fucking tool, you’re not even funny. You claim to “know Campagnolo (who here doesn’t), and then have the balls to admit that you’re going to bait people. You’re a fucking troll of the lowest common denominator. You have nothing to contribute through your barely coherent posts anyway. “Punch someone in the face”. Be gone with your bad self, and I can only hope to be side by side with you in the pack someday. Fuck you.

    Just needed you to release me. You are the bigger man here.

    So now you’re just going to log in with different WordPress accounts. Who’s the child here? Go clean your chain or something. How was that 3hour ride anyway? If you can type, you didn’t go hard enough.

    You can easily update your nickname in the account. I asked Frank to delete my profile if it was at all possible. The route went faster than expected. Grow up.

    The last thing I’ll say to you. Deleting your account and coming back with a different handle somehow is going to make you more palatable? Grow up indeed.

    You sound like the dumbest Cat 2 fuckup out there! Now that’s funny.

  22. @unnamed

    I think Ive only said this twice since Ive been a member here and I think the first time was to you as well. Fuck off. Seriously.

  23. @versio

    @unnamed
    Just get into the office to day after a cycling-related bender to read all of your shit. Because I am hungover and unproductive I will actually address your idiocy. My point about doing as little as possible was related to racing – not training, not riding your bike, channeling the V or whatever you want to call it. When you ain’t racing, yes burn all your matches – but when you are racing (you seem to talk like you might?), you race selfishly, do as little as possible and try to win. And Wiggo has done that perfectly.

    Do your fellow competitors think you are as big a cunt as we do? Although then again, maybe they like the stupid fucker who pulls the breakaways in for them – bet you are a champ at that. Because you felt the need to describe your own racing I am guessing you are a little battler racing in some shit US town in some shit division with a bunch of other shitty riders. And you feel the need for validation by coming on here and talking about your little race. You are an embarrassment you little boy.

  24. Anyone up for a nice sorbet?

  25. @xyxax

    I think popcorn is more appropriate.

  26. @xyxax Sorbet?

    The cone looks like a V; hence it’s Velomi-Sorbet.

  27. @xyxax

    Anyone up for a nice sorbet?

    yeah, why don’t we meet at the metro station just down the road.  I’ll be there in five minutes.

  28. Dear Versio / Unnamed / Whatever –

    I like to think that I am a reasonable man. I understand that part of life’s rich tapestry involves the occasional interaction with folk whose views, and methods of espousing them, are not always to one’s taste. And I like to think that I am a forgiving man. Rare indeed is the person who has never made a mistake and so knows not the need for and bliss of forgiveness and redemption.  And I like to think that I am a patient man.  When patience is shown to me I recognise and cherish it, and I try my best to do the same for others (including those, such as small children and other lawyers, who demand much of it).

    But you have threatened my ability to be reasonable, to be patient and to forgive.

    Not by your incomprehensible ramblings.  Not by your petty needling.  Not by your barely-sophomoric sense of what I assume you think might pass for humour. Not by your pathetically puffed and preened grandiosity.

    It is far, far worse than that.

    It is this: I stand on the brink of finding myself agreeing with Marcus.

    Should I take that final step into the abyss, I fear I shall never forgive you.

  29. Time for the assos girl.

    I’m trying to channel that image as otherwise i keep vomiting into the back of my throat when i return to readng the  part about energy conservation and agreeing w @Marcus. Is that a sign of the apocalypse? Shit, still haven’t won a race! Cant i have a few more days. Please.

  30. see, @G’phant beat me to it! I need time to work on my finishing! Assos girl, release me!!!!

  31. @G’phant

    Dear Versio / Unnamed / Whatever –

    I like to think that I am a reasonable man. I understand that part of life’s rich tapestry involves the occasional interaction with folk whose views, and methods of espousing them, are not always to one’s taste. And I like to think that I am a forgiving man. Rare indeed is the person who has never made a mistake and so knows not the need for and bliss of forgiveness and redemption.  And I like to think that I am a patient man.  When patience is shown to me I recognise and cherish it, and I try my best to do the same for others (including those, such as small children and other lawyers, who demand much of it).

    But you have threatened my ability to be reasonable, to be patient and to forgive.

    Not by your incomprehensible ramblings.  Not by your petty needling.  Not by your barely-sophomoric sense of what I assume you think might pass for humour. Not by your pathetically puffed and preened grandiosity.

    It is far, far worse than that.

    It is this: I stand on the brink of finding myself agreeing with Marcus.

    Should I take that final step into the abyss, I fear I shall never forgive you.

    That may well be the most eloquently delivered backhanded compliment Marcus has received in a while…

  32. @Mikael Liddy Oh fuck – now I;m not merely agreeing with him but complimenting him?!!!  Damn you, Unnamed Versio, damn you and your Marcus-baiting. 

  33. @G’phant

    It is this: I stand on the brink of finding myself agreeing with Marcus.

    Should I take that final step into the abyss, I fear I shall never forgive you.

    Ahh, quit your fucking whinging and get in the water’s fine. You won’t even remember what life was like on the other side.

  34. @G’phant

    This deserves the weekly V-jersey and a frowny emoticon…

  35. Can anyone introduce Versio to Karolinka?

  36. @Steampunk What’s the opposite of nipple lube? Chain grime? Axle grit?

  37. @HarMinator

    Can anyone introduce Versio to Karolinka?

    I’m not convinced they’re not the same person…scary thing is she found me on twitter about 6 months ago (insert scared emoticon here)

  38. @minion

    @Steampunk What’s the opposite of nipple lube? Chain grime? Axle grit?

    Assembly paste?

  39. @minion

    @Steampunk What’s the opposite of nipple lube? Chain grime? Axle grit?

    Versio.

  40. I have to admit I am happy to hear that no one else comprehends @versio, I was beginning to wonder if I was the problem not the incoherent posts. I scan over them to see how long into the sentence he stops making sense.

    And the new @unamed screen name, almost a stroke of genius. Is there some kind of saying. ‘one cog short of a full cassette?’ Surely someone can do better than that.

  41. @DerHoggz

    @minion

    @Buck Rogers

    The palate has been cleansed.   Thank you gentlemen.

  42. THAT HAS TO HAVE BEEN THE MOST AMAZING FINISH EVER!!!!! AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  43. @girl

    And the new @unamed screen name, almost a stroke of genius. Is there some kind of saying. ‘one cog short of a full cassette?’ Surely someone can do better than that.

    One cog short of a full cassette. I fucking love it.

  44. @unnamed

    I’m not deleting your profile or anyone else’s. My minimum expectation is that you manage your own identity within the community well enough that you don’t need me to spend my time cleaning up your mess.

    I think you ultimately mean well, but you are the only person here who has needed to change their handle in order to continue contributing – I’ve lost track of how many times. You are accusing several long-standing, well respected community members of being assholes; I suggest you examine your conduct and consider how you might be bringing this upon yourself.

  45. @frank Nicely put, Frank. Versio, I think your aggression is out of all proportion to the intent of the posters, although I do understand how their sniping might have got you riled up.

    @frank That was an INCREDIBLE sprint! Go Cav!

  46. That story Cav told of them sitting on the bus and him asking if he could have a chance and Wiggins immediately raising his hand and saying he’d give him a chance and Froome and others joining in was very touching.

    Massive respect.

  47. @frank

    That story Cav told of them sitting on the bus and him asking if he could have a chance and Wiggins immediately raising his hand and saying he’d give him a chance and Froome and others joining in was very touching.

    Massive respect.

    Didn’t sound like the inside of a Death Star, did it?

  48. @frank I hear you. Let’s try it.

  49. Chucking this in here because I could not be bothered to scroll back through the articles any further to find a rightful place for it..

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rodriguez-keeps-options-open-but-argos-rule-out-move

    I have to admit JRod has me “Smeagolled”.  He has the capacity to outsprint anyone on a hill, he can break away at the last minute when all around him are chewing the handlebars.  He is a genius in one sense, his team gave him mediocre support this year and he was often the lone red shirt in a Sea of Sky black yet it cannot be denied he was there or there abouts everytime.

    The problem is he seems to have the tactical equivalent to narcolepsy.  Sometimes he just goes to sleep on the job.  he basically lost 2 Grand Tours this year that should by all accounts have been his…

    Maybe a move to another team would be good for him, somehow he reminds me of watching Scotland play rugby union.  Year in year out they have somewhere between 1-3 world class players, yet because they do not have the depth in the team they cannot ever be victorious…think Patterson, Richy Gray etc etc…

    I just despair at seeing such an obvious talent continually “lose it” …. always the bridesmaid, never the bride…yet he tops the world rankings…this must drive him nuts!

    In fact I cannot decide whether he is Smeagol…or me!!

  50. @Deakus – Hope he doesn’t get too precious about it…

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