Velominati Super Prestige: Mens World Championship Road Race 2012

Velominati Super Prestige: Mens World Championship Road Race 2012

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I’m quite upset about it, actually, all this racing that’s been going on in perfectly good weather. Vlaanderen, dry. Roubaix, dry. We were nearly guaranteed shit weather with the Olympics in London, but even then, only the women got to get all Rule #9 on our asses – and only for one race. Damnit, I want Epic, and if we keep insisting on riders getting off the juice, all the Epic is going to have to come from other places like pouring rain and freezing cold.

Its a good thing, then, that Valkenburg was picked for the Worlds, because that almost guarantees bad weather. Last time it hosted the race the weather was complete crap. Its also just hilly enough that I think any of those sprinters who are pretending like they’re going to finish at the front are huffing too much DuMonde Tech. Boonen might be able to hang with the leaders into the finish, but I’d hardly call him a sprinter anymore, now that it dawned on him that people get hurt and seasons ruined in those big bunch gallops.

My money’s on good weather though, because the weather is forecast to be good here in Seattle and assuming it will be the same halfway around the world in Dutchland seems easier than looking up the local forecast.

You know the drill, picks close at 5am on Sunday in Pacific time, and if you can’t figure out what that means, just put your picks in before the countdown timer goes to zero. Also note that the spam filter is feeling a bit peckish these days and has a tendency to gobble up people’s VSP Picks; don’t be alarmed, your picks are getting into the system nevertheless and The Keepers are monitoring the queue for posts to approve everyone to disagree with.

Good luck.

// Velominati Super Prestige

  1. YES!!!!!! So stoked that Gilbert won Worlds… STOKED!

  2. No better man to wear the bands in 2013, let’s hope he can start brutalising all those nasty finishes like he did in 2011 again!
    Chapeau Phillippe!!!

  3. @JFT

    YES!!!!!! So stoked that Gilbert won Worlds… STOKED!

    Now we just have to convince him to race Paris-Rubaix again!!!  Guy has either podiumed or won pretty much every other major one day race out there, to include stage wins in each of the grand tours.

  4. @DerHoggz

    @Gianni
    Didn’t they say something about Gilbert having some viral thing going on, seems like that is a big excuse and Hushovd used it too.  Still, those guys do unimaginable things.

    Yeah apparently he had a tooth infection around Tirreno-Adriatico time that kinda killed his early spring…the being said he had also made it pretty clear he was targeting the bands this year.

  5. @Buck Rogers It’s hard to imagine Gilbert not suiting up for a run at Paris-Rubaix 2013… unless of course the Myan’s got it right and we’re all going to snap our chains on Dec 21st.

    Going out to grab some brew and hoist one back for Philippe’s success!

  6. @scaler911

    I was just over at Cycling News and wandered into the Forums section. It instantly made me happy that I found VM. With just a few exceptions (like people getting totally out of hand), we can talk about whatever we want here. 

    CN moderates the fuck out of their site, and I’m guessing that if I posted “this” post there, it’d get deleted. 

    Thanks Keepers! 

    Yeah there seems to be a lot of other sites like that. I used to visit Weight weenies, which is probably up there for being the most uptight argumentative group of fuckers on the planet. It’s like a bunch of grown men with the self control of 13 year old girls, that frequently has little to nothing to do with riding. 

    Cheers all also. 

  7. @JFT

    @Buck Rogers It’s hard to imagine Gilbert not suiting up for a run at Paris-Rubaix 2013… unless of course the Myan’s got it right and we’re all going to snap our chains on Dec 21st.

    Going out to grab some brew and hoist one back for Philippe’s success!

    I think that he has sworn off PR until later in his career. I read an interview a year or two ago where he said that it was too dangerous and he wants to wait until later in his career to race it again.  He has raced it, early in his career, but never podiumed it.  Pretty much the only big one day race, and the only monument, where that is the case.  Wish would give it a go, though!

  8. Phillippe ‘what’s eating” Gilbert “grape!”  Yeah, boy! Happy he won, will be good to see him rock the bands in 2013! In the mode of @minion and @scaler911 will add my cheers to the rest of you yahoos, as well.  This is a great group which can talk with great knowledge on topics as varied as cycling gear, history, and hottest sci-fi babes…..good times. Am reminded that we all need to thank the Keepers in general, but also for putting on VSP.  Chapeau!

  9. @Dr C

    No better man to wear the bands in 2013, let’s hope he can start brutalising all those nasty finishes like he did in 2011 again!
    Chapeau Phillippe!!!

    Hoping he takes kit suggestions from the Good Cadelephant instead of Thor though, otherwise we could be faced with some pretty horrific Rule #15 contravention.

  10. Let’s not get aheadoff ourselves with 2013; there’s a very good chance we’ll be seeing Gilbert open his world champion account with a win next weekend…

  11. @Steampunk

    @xyxax

    @Blah @brett Hail the littlest Steampunk.  Next stop: Mega Lotto.  

    I pride myself in being a good domestique…

    you are the DS and never forget it.

  12. One lousy point …  made a complete f-up of those picks sadly

  13. @JFT

    @Buck Rogers  unless of course the Myan’s got it right and we’re all going to snap our chains on Dec 21st.

    Well, Dick Clark did die this year so no Dick Clark means no New Year 

  14. FUCK YEAH GILBERT!  My interest in pro racing has been restored.  Hope he rocks the bands in style.  Rocked my Rapha Belgium jersey this avro in his honor.
    @Steampunk

    Let’s not get aheadoff ourselves with 2013; there’s a very good chance we’ll be seeing Gilbert open his world champion account with a win next weekend…

    Next weekend, and/or Paris-Tours (again).  
    @Buck Rogers
    That’s right about PR.  That will be the hardest one for him to win.  It’s hard to believe he’s only won 2 of the 5 monuments.  Would love to see him take home Flanders and MSR.  He might need crap weather to beat out the sprinters on the latter, however.
     

  15. @LA Dave yeah had a bit of a giggle at that one when it happened last night, I just love the cartoon character shake of the head afterwards.

  16. @Cyclops

    @JFT

    @Buck Rogers  unless of course the Myan’s got it right and we’re all going to snap our chains on Dec 21st.

    Well, Dick Clark did die this year so no Dick Clark means no New Year 

    Dang… that’s it. We all better ride like it, too.

    @Nate

    My interest in pro racing has been restored. 

    I couldn’t agree more… and damn near said the same thing not 5 minutes after hearing the news.

  17. This is a man who eats pain instead of gels and bars for extra strength – so pleased  – I wonder what shorts he’ll wear next season….

  18. @Dr C Maybe we should send him a petition signed by all Velominatus to ensure that he follows Cav’s fine example and wears black.

  19. sort of mild mannered version of this fellow…

  20. Reminds one of JVS in Paris Roubaix last year perhaps

  21. Really happy Phil Gil won. Still perplexed at my late switch taking out Valverde and putting in Rodriguez. Both Vos and Phil Gil won the WC the way it should be won – with class and panache. Chapeaux!

  22. @wiscot

    Really happy Phil Gil won. Still perplexed at my late switch taking out Valverde and putting in Rodriguez. Both Vos and Phil Gil won the WC the way it should be won – with class and panache. Chapeaux!

    I followed you on that swap.  I briefly saw the posts about the upset stomach and foolishly believed that to mean Valverde wasn’t riding.  Great late attack from Gilbert to take it though – I’m happy to see the rainbow jersey on his shoulders for next year.  I just hope he doesn’t rock the white bibs along with it, but I have a feeling that he will.

  23. @Frank:  What say you about your Golden Boy Tom wearing shoe covers yesterday?  As the temps didn’t classify as cold, is this a blatant Rule #23 violation (and why silver?!)?  It doesn’t bother me a bit, but I guess to be fair, if Big George is to be chastised regularly, then Tornado Tom should as well.  Notice the gears these guys are turning while conversing in an absolutely Casually Deliberate fashion.

    Tornado Tom with a  <a href=Rule #23 Violation" width="451" height="600" />

    THIS is how you fire the guns off in an attack!

     

  24. Great race! I was so pumped I pulled out a WC Campagnolo jersey I have, which I picked up long before my Velominati days, and rode for a few hours with a pal. It shall now be returned to the bottom of my drawer until next year…

  25. @VeloVita

    @wiscot

    Really happy Phil Gil won. Still perplexed at my late switch taking out Valverde and putting in Rodriguez. Both Vos and Phil Gil won the WC the way it should be won – with class and panache. Chapeaux!

    I followed you on that swap.  I briefly saw the posts about the upset stomach and foolishly believed that to mean Valverde wasn’t riding.  Great late attack from Gilbert to take it though – I’m happy to see the rainbow jersey on his shoulders for next year.  I just hope he doesn’t rock the white bibs along with it, but I have a feeling that he will.

    Glad I wasn’t the only one who made a foolish swap based on crap info!

  26. @Tartan1749

    @Frank:  What say you about your Golden Boy Tom wearing shoe covers yesterday?  As the temps didn’t classify as cold, is this a blatant Rule #23 violation (and why silver?!)?  It doesn’t bother me a bit, but I guess to be fair, if Big George is to be chastised regularly, then Tornado Tom should as well.  Notice the gears these guys are turning while conversing in an absolutely Casually Deliberate fashion.

    Tornado Tom with a  <a href= Rule #23 Violation” width=”451″ height=”600″ />

    THIS is how you fire the guns off in an attack!

     

    Maybe it was a shoe sponsorship thing. Tommeke’s not one for the shoe covers as a rule, except in foul weather. Sunday’s weather wasn’t bad at all. Shades of Spartacus’ covers all year? I think so. Phil Gil looked like he was wearing his special Belgian-themed DMT shoes. Whatever, Boonen’s shoes were three strap with no ratchets or twist adjustments. Any idea who makes them?

  27. Over shoes which dont make you look a dick….?

  28. @wiscot DMT Yes

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    @wiscot DMT Yes

    Nah, I meant who makes Tommeke’s shoes?

  30. @Tartan1749

    @Frank:  What say you about your Golden Boy Tom wearing shoe covers yesterday?  As the temps didn’t classify as cold, is this a blatant Rule #23 violation (and why silver?!)?  It doesn’t bother me a bit, but I guess to be fair, if Big George is to be chastised regularly, then Tornado Tom should as well.  Notice the gears these guys are turning while conversing in an absolutely Casually Deliberate fashion.

    Tornado Tom with a  <a href= Rule #23 Violation” width=”451″ height=”600″ />

    THIS is how you fire the guns off in an attack!

     

    Those are awful – his feet look like they’re auditioning for a 1960s sci-fi film.  This turns my stomach as Tommeke has always looked so classy on the bike.

  31. I like those DMTs Gilbert was wearing. I’d like to try those, and some Bonts, since with each ride of my Ergo2s I get closer to finally giving up on them & deciding numb feet/toes isn’t worth it. Oh, I also got some new soccer cleats. They’re Pumas and have the anatomical foot shape, much like Bonts. A bit of getting used to but after a few wearings they are awesome.

    What gruppo was Fast Phil using yesterday? Looks kind of like Dura Ace shifters but I’d thought he mainly used Campagnolo? Maybe that was before BMC…

    And why was Boonen the only one in the tricolor helmet?

     

  32. The new *Speedplay Approved* sole

  33. @wiscot Boonen shoes

  34. Closer look at Boonen’s shoes

  35. @Ron

    I like those DMTs Gilbert was wearing. I’d like to try those, and some Bonts, since with each ride of my Ergo2s I get closer to finally giving up on them & deciding numb feet/toes isn’t worth it. Oh, I also got some new soccer cleats. They’re Pumas and have the anatomical foot shape, much like Bonts. A bit of getting used to but after a few wearings they are awesome.

    What Gruppo was Fast Phil using yesterday? Looks kind of like Dura Ace shifters but I’d thought he mainly used Campagnolo? Maybe that was before BMC…

    And why was Boonen the only one in the tricolor helmet?

     

    Boonen is the current Belgian national champ, hence the helmet.

    Indeed shoes and saddles are the most expensive propositions when it comes to fitting.  At least with saddles, you can demo some of them.  I had numb toes in my Northwaves until I added once of those As Seen on Tv Walkfit plastic arch supports (it was the only option as any replacement insole took up too much volume inside the shoe)  Bonts were the absolute stiffest shoe I’ve ever felt – and that was with the low end fiberglass sole.  For me, however, they were too low volume to work.

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    Closer look at Boonen’s shoes

    Thanks! But I don’t think those were the ones he wore on Sunday. It looks like the ones he used were just straps and without “adjuster knobs” on them. (there are virtually no “lumps” under those overshoes) Also, in P-R he was using an almost all-white unmarked shoe. Maybe an early test model from Spesh?

    I agree that the silver overshoes were a bad choice sartorially.

    Hopefully Phil Gil will wear black shorts next year. On the podium, the rainbow bands and black shorts looked ace.

  37. exception 'ImagickException' with message 'unable to open file `/nas/wp/www/cluster-40013/velominati//wp-content/plugins/dm-albums/php/image.php?degrees=0&scale=yes&width=600&height=700&quality=85&maintain_aspect=yes&rounding=nearest&image=/home/frankdstrack/velominati.com/wp-content/uploads/readers/UNPULL/2012.09.24.15.07.08/DMT.png' @ error/png.c/ReadPNGImage/3667' in /nas/wp/www/cluster-40013/velominati/wp-content/themes/velominati/generics.php:1269 Stack trace: #0 /nas/wp/www/cluster-40013/velominati/wp-content/themes/velominati/generics.php(1269): Imagick->__construct('/nas/wp/www/clu...') #1 [internal function]: dm_replace_image_embeds('

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    @wiscot DMT Yes

    Damn, those look good.  I love the red/yellow/black color combos of Belgium and Germany.  Think he’ll get a special rainbow version, now?

    I’ll probably need a new pair of shoes next year, but I’ve never had an issue with my Mavics.  Like saddles, I’ve got no real interest in varying from what works.  maybe I’ll catch some Yellow Princesses on sale next year…

  38. @wiscot  I can see covering up a logo due to sponsorship duties, but SILVER?  The only thing that even remotely matches are the nipples on his wheels.

    @VeloVita – Yep.  He’d blend right in.

    Lost In Space Cast

  39. @wiscot If they were not Specialized (team issue), then perhaps then maybe he wanted (was told) to *hide* his shoes with the flat-ugly covers.

  40. @wiscot The adjuster dials are right there.

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    @wiscot The adjuster dials are right there.

    Thanks! Nice enlargement! Or is it my new transitions lenses that prevent me from seeing such details?

    One of the other Belgian riders was wearing blue overshoes and they looked much better!

  42. @VeloVita Ah, I should have guessed/known that Boonen was the current Belgian champ. Yeah, I’ve thought about trying some inserts and even swapped some yellow/green Insoles from another pair of my shoes but didn’t help. The dumb thing is that I have some Sidi Geniuses that are great but went for some Ergo 2s due to flashy looks…and now I have sore feet when I wear them. I keep on hoping they finally break in or feel good but it’s been awhile since I picked them up and still not quite right.

  43. @Ron

    @VeloVita Ah, I should have guessed/known that Boonen was the current Belgian champ. Yeah, I’ve thought about trying some inserts and even swapped some yellow/green Insoles from another pair of my shoes but didn’t help. The dumb thing is that I have some Sidi Geniuses that are great but went for some Ergo 2s due to flashy looks…and now I have sore feet when I wear them. I keep on hoping they finally break in or feel good but it’s been awhile since I picked them up and still not quite right.

    If you haven’t already, a cleat fitting at a reputable LBS may be beneficial.  Mine initially fit me the specialized inserts with wedges underneath, but when I discovered, several rides later, that there just wasn’t enough volume in my shoe to accommodate then, the fitter set me up with the wedges that mount to the sole, under the cleat.  That helped, but still didn’t give the arch support I needed, hence the Walkfit inserts.  Of course, it may just be that the Sidi last isn’t right for you and a fitting won’t help – I looked at a pair of the Genius 5s, but I wasn’t keen on the narrow toe.  It didn’t seem to matter what size or width I went for, they just didn’t suit me, despite my lust for the white vernice.  My understanding is that DMT fits similarly.  I ended up with a pair of Diadoras with the R+ last (which is a little wider), with blue Specialized insoles that take up the extra volume.  I still wear my Northwave’s because they’ve got a carbon sole so they’re a little stiffer, they look better and match my bike and kit, but if I’m being honest the Diadoras are lighter and fit better.

  44. @Tartan1749 I loved my Mavic shoes too. But I did find a better life in Giro Factor shoes. I do still ride with Mavic pedals, which is where the love began in the first place. Mavic…

  45. @wiscot

    Really happy Phil Gil won. Still perplexed at my late switch taking out Valverde and putting in Rodriguez. Both Vos and Phil Gil won the WC the way it should be won – with class and panache. Chapeaux!

    Er…same here, swapped Valverde out for Teejay at last moment – doh!

  46. @minion

    @scaler911

    I was just over at Cycling News and wandered into the Forums section. It instantly made me happy that I found VM. With just a few exceptions (like people getting totally out of hand), we can talk about whatever we want here. 

    CN moderates the fuck out of their site, and I’m guessing that if I posted “this” post there, it’d get deleted. 

    Thanks Keepers! 

    Yeah there seems to be a lot of other sites like that. I used to visit Weight weenies, which is probably up there for being the most uptight argumentative group of fuckers on the planet. It’s like a bunch of grown men with the self control of 13 year old girls, that frequently has little to nothing to do with riding. 

    Cheers all also. 

    Ha! I pretty much never, ever go into any bike chats at this point, unless I feel like I’ve used up my maximum number of questions per week ’round here…I’ll check news sites, but very rarely forums. This place has simplified my life! And made it much more awesome.

    I’m in the new helmet market & all the white helmets in the race on Sunday (likely to match national kits) have me up in the air on the decision. Already have a black one that has plenty of life. Black is simple, but two nice ones might be unnecessary. That leaves me with silver or white. White sometimes seems too plain. But, it can look simple. Hmm.

    Was Phil’s helmet white or silver? Hard to tell, looked white but post-race from the side it looked mostly silver with white sides/back.

  47. I was unsure which T shirt to wear on Monday Queen or King!

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