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The Great Escape

The Great Escape

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  1. @Souleur

    genetics and all aside, I do think Quintana did benefit from the greatest single thing any rider gets, and it only comes once

    free pass, the unmarked rider, the unknown commodity

    who knew? I mean hell, crashednfeld even cracked 4th…once

    look at Ryder now? Kloden, who was 3rd once? Spartacus can’t do anything without the peloton pissing their bibs, because all these are now marked

    So, now Quintana is a known value, and will see how that pans out. I personally think he is special and will be phenomenal.

     

    @Souleur I’m not so sure about Quintana being the unknown quantity. Team Sky admitted in pre-Tour interviews that if there was a man that they were keeping their eye on for surprises, it was Quintana. He already had a GT under his belt, the 2012 Vuelta, in which he was consistently shepherding Valverde in the mountains in the third week. Plus he already had successes against Sky in the past year (Dauphinee, País Vasco, Catalunya). And if that wasn’t enough, Quintana is roommates with Henao and Urán, with Urán also being his landlord. So I’m sure he wasn’t an unknown quantity to Sky

    Other teams may not have been fully aware of what Quintana is capable of, but I think at least Sky, Saxo and Katusha had a pretty good idea of whom they were dealing with

    If there has been an unknown Colombian quantity this year, it’s probably Betancur. Witness how much rope they gave him at Fleche Wallone on the Muur, and he almost pulled it off. But because of that, LBL, and the Giro, he will be a marked man at the Vuelta

  2. @ten B Thanks, the look on his face, after launch, is priceless.

  3. @chrishent

    @Souleur

    genetics and all aside, I do think Quintana did benefit from the greatest single thing any rider gets, and it only comes once

    free pass, the unmarked rider, the unknown commodity

    who knew? I mean hell, crashednfeld even cracked 4th…once

    look at Ryder now? Kloden, who was 3rd once? Spartacus can’t do anything without the peloton pissing their bibs, because all these are now marked

    So, now Quintana is a known value, and will see how that pans out. I personally think he is special and will be phenomenal.

    @Souleur I’m not so sure about Quintana being the unknown quantity. Team Sky admitted in pre-Tour interviews that if there was a man that they were keeping their eye on for surprises, it was Quintana. He already had a GT under his belt, the 2012 Vuelta, in which he was consistently shepherding Valverde in the mountains in the third week. Plus he already had successes against Sky in the past year (Dauphinee, País Vasco, Catalunya). And if that wasn’t enough, Quintana is roommates with Henao and Urán, with Urán also being his landlord. So I’m sure he wasn’t an unknown quantity to Sky

    Other teams may not have been fully aware of what Quintana is capable of, but I think at least Sky, Saxo and Katusha had a pretty good idea of whom they were dealing with

    If there has been an unknown Colombian quantity this year, it’s probably Betancur. Witness how much rope they gave him at Fleche Wallone on the Muur, and he almost pulled it off. But because of that, LBL, and the Giro, he will be a marked man at the Vuelta

    I wonder how good Betancur will be in the high mountains…his performance on the Muur would indicate he can take the sharp gradients but the long slog up the Angliru with the killer ramp at the end, could expose limitations.  Having said that his spring classics performanc was stunning…….it will be interesting!

    Everything I know about Qunitana I divide in half to take account of the press hype.  He was stunning in the tdf but he is now more tired, more well known and …. could be …. more, or less, motivated.

  4. @chrishent

    @Souleur

    genetics and all aside, I do think Quintana did benefit from the greatest single thing any rider gets, and it only comes once

    free pass, the unmarked rider, the unknown commodity

    who knew? I mean hell, crashednfeld even cracked 4th…once

    look at Ryder now? Kloden, who was 3rd once? Spartacus can’t do anything without the peloton pissing their bibs, because all these are now marked

    So, now Quintana is a known value, and will see how that pans out. I personally think he is special and will be phenomenal.

    @Souleur I’m not so sure about Quintana being the unknown quantity. Team Sky admitted in pre-Tour interviews that if there was a man that they were keeping their eye on for surprises, it was Quintana. He already had a GT under his belt, the 2012 Vuelta, in which he was consistently shepherding Valverde in the mountains in the third week. Plus he already had successes against Sky in the past year (Dauphinee, País Vasco, Catalunya). And if that wasn’t enough, Quintana is roommates with Henao and Urán, with Urán also being his landlord. So I’m sure he wasn’t an unknown quantity to Sky

    Other teams may not have been fully aware of what Quintana is capable of, but I think at least Sky, Saxo and Katusha had a pretty good idea of whom they were dealing with

    If there has been an unknown Colombian quantity this year, it’s probably Betancur. Witness how much rope they gave him at Fleche Wallone on the Muur, and he almost pulled it off. But because of that, LBL, and the Giro, he will be a marked man at the Vuelta

    @chrishent: fair enough and I agree, you mention some great relationships there, but let me play devils advocate for a moment too, since I am the great skeptic. That Sky was watching someone special, it may well have been Quintana, perhaps not.  In retrospect its easy to assume and place an order to things, but it may have been Svein Tuft getting the Lanterne Rouge too?  Perhaps cuddles had them all nervous too, a prior TdF winner, or perhaps it was Contadors great return, perhaps it was fear of bangdnfelds big finale’, or even Ryders push for a TdF showing after last years Maglia Rosas special ride, I’m just simply not sure, but its just hard to infer as to what they were ‘watching’.  I’m just saying, Quintana is now known based on this years proven performance, not only on the inside, but to everyone who has an inkling to follow cycling.  Before he may have been known, and yes had special days, and now he has had a special TdF and that going forward will be recognized by merit, since Quintana now is deserving of this.

  5. http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jul/22/sky-chris-froome-bradley-wiggins-tour

    Brailsford can’t be serious can he? This could only end in tears and a rather unpleasant ambiance on the team bus.

  6. Apropos of nothing, Lelangue has just been shown the door at BMC. Rough justice or fair enough?  BMC had an ordinary tour after a good Giro so it’s perhaps more than just the scoreboard.

  7. @wiscot

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jul/22/sky-chris-froome-bradley-wiggins-tour

    Brailsford can’t be serious can he? This could only end in tears and a rather unpleasant ambiance on the team bus.

    Um, yeah – good luck with that…

  8. @VeloVita

    @wiscot

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jul/22/sky-chris-froome-bradley-wiggins-tour

    Brailsford can’t be serious can he? This could only end in tears and a rather unpleasant ambiance on the team bus.

    Um, yeah – good luck with that…

    I know. Don’t get me wrong, I like Wiggo and he had a great year last year and I think there’s some more to come from him before he ends what has been an astoundingly successful career. But Froome would have kicked his ass this year and even if they have a lot of TT kms next year (which I doubt) there’s not much between Wiggins and Froome in TT ability. Brailsford is a very smart guy, but show me an example of joint leaders working out amicably and I’ll show you Mark Cavendish’s king of the mountains jersey.

  9. @meursault

    @ten B Thanks, the look on his face, after launch, is priceless.

    Hah, yeah. And the elbow flicking was good. Their website is a fucking hoot.

  10. @wiscot

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jul/22/sky-chris-froome-bradley-wiggins-tour

    Brailsford can’t be serious can he? This could only end in tears and a rather unpleasant ambiance on the team bus.

    May not be as mad as it seems….what if they were both riding in support of Richie Porte?  Dave Brailsford would be crowing from the rafters that he had delivered 3 seperate Tour Winners in 3 years….now that’s something to develop an ego over!!

  11. @Deakus

    @wiscot

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jul/22/sky-chris-froome-bradley-wiggins-tour

    Brailsford can’t be serious can he? This could only end in tears and a rather unpleasant ambiance on the team bus.

    May not be as mad as it seems….what if they were both riding in support of Richie Porte? Dave Brailsford would be crowing from the rafters that he had delivered 3 seperate Tour Winners in 3 years….now that’s something to develop an ego over!!

    I’m assuming you tongue is planted firmly in your cheek.  Seriously though – when was the last time a past Tour winner rode in support of another rider?

  12. @VeloVita

    @Deakus

    @wiscot

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jul/22/sky-chris-froome-bradley-wiggins-tour

    Brailsford can’t be serious can he? This could only end in tears and a rather unpleasant ambiance on the team bus.

    May not be as mad as it seems….what if they were both riding in support of Richie Porte? Dave Brailsford would be crowing from the rafters that he had delivered 3 seperate Tour Winners in 3 years….now that’s something to develop an ego over!!

    I’m assuming you tongue is planted firmly in your cheek. Seriously though – when was the last time a past Tour winner rode in support of another rider?

    My tongue was only partially in my cheek.  Never underestimate the power of the Sky Cheque Book and the fact that it is the 2014 TdF starting in the UK.  In fact he probably wants to have them ride in support of another British rider so maybe it is Kennaugh?!

    I really cannot see it happening in all honesty but you would be able to knock me over with a feather and baste me with Dumonde Tech if he managed to get either Wiggo or Froomedog to support each other.  My bet is that Wiggo dissapears in the Autumn transfer market….

    I would not put anything past Brailsfords ego….

  13. @wiscot Tears and a fist fight – he’s dreaming; but then again the Brits may invoke the stiff upper lip.

  14. @VeloVita

    I’m assuming you tongue is planted firmly in your cheek. Seriously though – when was the last time a past Tour winner rode in support of another rider?

    Riis/Ullrich? Hinault/Lemond?

  15. @TBONE

    @VeloVita

    I’m assuming you tongue is planted firmly in your cheek. Seriously though – when was the last time a past Tour winner rode in support of another rider?

    Riis/Ullrich? Hinault/Lemond?

    Riis/Ullrich I can’t coment on. As for LeMan and Hinault, to say either truly took a back seat to the other is highly debatable!

  16. @wiscot

    @TBONE

    @VeloVita

    I’m assuming you tongue is planted firmly in your cheek. Seriously though – when was the last time a past Tour winner rode in support of another rider?

    Riis/Ullrich? Hinault/Lemond?

    Riis/Ullrich I can’t coment on. As for LeMan and Hinault, to say either truly took a back seat to the other is highly debatable!

    That was the point I was getting at.  It doesn’t seem to work all that well. You can add COTHO/Contador to that list too.

  17. @wiscot

    @VeloVita

    @wiscot

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jul/22/sky-chris-froome-bradley-wiggins-tour

    Brailsford can’t be serious can he? This could only end in tears and a rather unpleasant ambiance on the team bus.

    Um, yeah – good luck with that…

    I know. Don’t get me wrong, I like Wiggo and he had a great year last year and I think there’s some more to come from him before he ends what has been an astoundingly successful career. But Froome would have kicked his ass this year and even if they have a lot of TT kms next year (which I doubt) there’s not much between Wiggins and Froome in TT ability. Brailsford is a very smart guy, but show me an example of joint leaders working out amicably and I’ll show you Mark Cavendish’s king of the mountains jersey.

    Surely it’s just because the tour starts in Yorkshire. I bet Wigoo is still the only cyclist that 80% of the UK population know of. So Sky will inlcude him in all their buildup PR. However, that old knee injury may still flare up a week out from the start.

  18. @Deakus

    My bet is that Wiggo dissapears in the Autumn transfer market….

     

    That’s definitely a a possibility. I doubt that Wiggo could either beat or work for Froome. I bet Brailsford is already calculating the PR-benefit versus huge-salary-for-no-results equation.

    But weher coudl he go? Imagine Uran bolting to QuickStep only to find 2 weeks later that he now has to work for their surprise new signing…

  19. @Bianchi Denti

    Imagine Uran bolting to QuickStep only to find 2 weeks later that he now has to work for their surprise new signing…

    Fuck, can you imagine the meltdown Cav would have in the team bus when he heard the news of that one.

  20. @Chris

    @Bianchi Denti

    Imagine Uran bolting to QuickStep only to find 2 weeks later that he now has to work for their surprise new signing…

    Fuck, can you imagine the meltdown Cav would have in the team bus when he heard the news of that one.

    the odd thing about Urán signing with OPQS is that he already knows what it’s like to share leadership with Cav in a GT, as it happened in the 2012 Giro. He only got Henao for support in the mountains and even had to work for Cav in the sprint stages, so I’m not sure what kind of promises OPQS made for him to sign with them. Cav most likely is not liking the prospect of sharing leadership with Urán come Tour time…

  21. @Chris

    @Bianchi Denti

    Imagine Uran bolting to QuickStep only to find 2 weeks later that he now has to work for their surprise new signing…

    Fuck, can you imagine the meltdown Cav would have in the team bus when he heard the news of that one.

    I would pay real money to see/hear that.  Since when does OPQS care about GC though (as far as Uran)?

  22. @ten B

    @meursault

    @ten B Also. the old snot rocket launcher, can bring down a sucker.

    Haven’t used it in anger, but I found this instructional video from Jahvahaah:

    That was one Magic Loogie.

    I ride alone a lot, and guys in this town think it’s OK to hop on your wheel when you pass them. I hate it. It ruins my groove and thoughts. I don’t like some muppet getting a 30% break, not taking a pull and being a liability. As such, stowaways are subjected to a deluge of my human detritus.

  23. @TBONE

    @ten B

    @meursault

    @ten B Also. the old snot rocket launcher, can bring down a sucker.

    Haven’t used it in anger, but I found this instructional video from Jahvahaah:

    That was one Magic Loogie.

    I ride alone a lot, and guys in this town think it’s OK to hop on your wheel when you pass them. I hate it. It ruins my groove and thoughts. I don’t like some muppet getting a 30% break, not taking a pull and being a liability. As such, stowaways are subjected to a deluge of my human detritus.

    That’s just nasty. Should be a rule against it.

  24. I love my bike.  It takes me places I’ve never seen, she calms me down when that seems impossible, she excites me with the speed we share.  And then she surprises me.  This morning I revisited a local climb which for good reason I do not routinely frequent.  As I was 2/3s up the slope and the grade hit 16%, I questioned why I had returned and I approached an intersection which would have allowed me an escape.  But before I knew it, the intersection was passed, and the crest of the hill approached and that freedom overwhelmed me and I was the better for it.  Thank Merckx for my bike and Live la VV!

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