Stand still and get your shit together. Wait for the car and freak out like every other civilized person.

Stand still and get your shit together. Wait for the car and freak out like every other civilized person.

On Rule #42: Running is Balls, Even for the Maillot Jaune

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  1. Rule #42 //
    A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.

    If it's preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run, it is not called a bike race, it is called duathlon or a triathlon. Neither of which is a bike race. Also keep in mind that one should only swim in order to prevent drowning, and should only run if being chased. And even then, one should only run fast enough to prevent capture.

Alright people, we heard you. Chris Froome ran. But he was going to lose the Tour de France. I’ve got news for you: Cyclocrossers run, too. So do convicts, burglars, children, footballers, and triathletes. And anyone who has ever seen a Grizzly Bear up close. And all of them ran because they were going to lose something. The person with the bear has the best case here, as far as I’m concerned, and I’ll be disappointed if they didn’t trip something with a heartbeat just to gain a little extra advantage.

Because if you’re already stooping so low as to run, your life better be on the line, and you better be willing to play dirty.

You know what the worst kind of running is? A road cyclist in carbon-soled shoes designed to be so inflexible that even Admiral Tarkin would approve of them. I once jacked up a cyclocross bike so badly I had to break the chain to get it unwound, and because I didn’t have a chain tool I ran the rest of the lap to finish the race. Finishing the race on foot was almost as humiliating as crashing because I was too dumb to appreciate that 15 PSI tires don’t corner as tightly as 110 PSI tires do.

Worst. Day. Of. My. Life.

Including that time I crapped my pantaloons on a transcontinental flight in India.

In conclusion of Froome’s Rule #42 violation, here are the facts:

  1. Yes, Chris Froome was knocked down by race motos. (He actually crashed into another rider who was knocked down by another rider who was knocked down by a race moto.)
  2. Yes, Chris Froome was in the Maillot Jaune and everybody knows everybody with any dignity always waits for the Maillot Jaune, no matter how many riders from the crash actually caused them to crash.
  3. Yes, Chris Froome’s bike was broken. I’m not trying to be adversary here, but do you remember when COTHO‘s bike broke in a crash on Luz Ardiden and he just rode it home to win the stage anyway? Yeah, me too. And that guy was a dick. And only dicks ride broken bikes. Chris Froome is less of a dick so shouldn’t need to ride a broken bike. Obviously.
  4. Jens Voigt once rode a child’s bike to finish a stage within the time limit. Jens Voigt used to eat broken bikes for breakfast, just to keep regular.
  5. Chris Froome looked so completely awful running in his little carbon ballerina slippers that he should lose the Tour de France on appearances alone.

The verdict is: he violated Rule #42 and the UCI turned a blind eye to how rotten a runner he is. Next they’ll allow motors in bike races while pretending to scan for them.

// Defining Moments // FFS Friday // Rantings from the V-Bunker

  1. @frank

    Pretty sure a second moto came up on the tiny carbon soled dancer lying in a heap from the first moto caused pile up and ran over his 18k dogma. Still a stupid bike but a bit more understandable as to why it’s cracked like Nairo’s desire to win the race…

  2. @justindcady

    And what is this shit about shortening the stage because of a little cross wind?!! What a sight that would have been: all those skinny little climbers blown into Spain!!
    @Clank

  3. @kybikegirl

    @frank

    Pretty sure a second moto came up on the tiny carbon soled dancer lying in a heap from the first moto caused pile up and ran over his 18k dogma. Still a stupid bike but a bit more understandable as to why it’s cracked like Nairo’s desire to win the race…

    Giving that last sentence a thumbs up. I am fully expecting a report of bronchitis or allergies or paracoccidiomycoses infection in the next few days. Oh Nairo, prove us wrong.

  4. @Ed

    @justindcady

    And what is this shit about shortening the stage because of a little cross wind?!! What a sight that would have been: all those skinny little climbers blown into Spain!!
    @Clank

    The end times have arrived… this morning on radio I heard a golfer trash-talking cycling.

    He was some functionary connected to the Open which is apparently on at the moment.

    The reporter asked him a question along the lines of the conditions yesterday being much better for the earlier starters than those who teed off later. To which he replied that this wasn’t like the Tour de France, they don’t play 17 holes instead of 18 because of some wind and the players know that.

    Had I been eating cereal I would have choked on it. Truly the signs of the apocalypse are with us.

  5. What do you do when you meet the Buddha on the road?

    Kill him.

    Being in yellow looks fantastic. The top spot on the podium in Paris looks fantastic. Therefore, every second saved is fantastic. Rule #43 is the finger pointing to the moon; look at it and you miss the true glory. Froome was right to run.

  6. @LawnCzar

    What do you do when you meet the Buddha on the road?

    Kill him.

    Being in yellow looks fantastic. The top spot on the podium in Paris looks fantastic. Therefore, every second saved is fantastic. Rule #43 is the finger pointing to the moon; look at it and you miss the true glory. Froome was right to run.

    Whoops, typo on the rule number. Womp womp.

  7. @Al Shepherd

    What bothers me is that he abandoned his mortally wounded bike to the baying mob. Froome briefly lost his mind as the overwhelming urge to win took over but the image should have of him carrying his dead steed with him. In this there would have been great poignancy.

    That adds a Rule #4 violation to the list of transgressions, not to mention Rule #65 because when your machine is broken, you should build a funeral pyre and put it to rest properly, not discard it like a used-up rag.

    @Oli

    Feckin’ iPad. Thumbs and late nights don’t play well together!

  8. @Rick

    To be fair I think is should be pointed out that even in a panicked state, Mr. Froome adhered to Rule #65.

    It must be cherished, and when leaning it against a wall, must be leaned carefully such that only the bars, saddle, or tires come in contact with the wall or post. This is true even when dismounting prior to collapsing after the World Championship Time Trial.

    True, but you might find a Panzerwagen.

  9. @frank

    Call me pedantic, but the bike race to which you refer was neither preceded by a swim nor followed by a run, therefore a violation of Rule #42 did not occur. That is my legal opinion. Perhaps you should consider an amendment to the rule to include unnecessary and unsightly running during road races.

    My personal opinion, however, is that my eyes can never unsee that yellow streak of misery trotting up that hill in his tiny carbon soled ballerina shoes. Mentally scarred for life, I am.

  10. @Ed

    @justindcady

    And what is this shit about shortening the stage because of a little cross wind?!! What a sight that would have been: all those skinny little climbers blown into Spain!!
    @Clank

    Gold!

    @kybikegirl

    @frank

    Pretty sure a second moto came up on the tiny carbon soled dancer lying in a heap from the first moto caused pile up and ran over his 18k dogma. Still a stupid bike but a bit more understandable as to why it’s cracked like Nairo’s desire to win the race…

    And more gold!

  11. @ChrisO

    @Ed

    @justindcady

    And what is this shit about shortening the stage because of a little cross wind?!! What a sight that would have been: all those skinny little climbers blown into Spain!!
    @Clank

    The end times have arrived… this morning on radio I heard a golfer trash-talking cycling.

    He was some functionary connected to the Open which is apparently on at the moment.

    The reporter asked him a question along the lines of the conditions yesterday being much better for the earlier starters than those who teed off later. To which he replied that this wasn’t like the Tour de France, they don’t play 17 holes instead of 18 because of some wind and the players know that.

    Had I been eating cereal I would have choked on it. Truly the signs of the apocalypse are with us.

    That confirms it. The end is indeed nigh.

  12. @Rick

    To be fair I think is should be pointed out that even in a panicked state, Mr. Froome adhered to Rule #65.

    It must be cherished, and when leaning it against a wall, must be leaned carefully such that only the bars, saddle, or tires come in contact with the wall or post. This is true even when dismounting prior to collapsing after the World Championship Time Trial.

    How did he adhere to it? He chucked it away, non?

  13. @frank

    @Rick

    To be fair I think is should be pointed out that even in a panicked state, Mr. Froome adhered to Rule #65.

    It must be cherished, and when leaning it against a wall, must be leaned carefully such that only the bars, saddle, or tires come in contact with the wall or post. This is true even when dismounting prior to collapsing after the World Championship Time Trial.

    How did he adhere to it? He chucked it away, non?

    He placed it carefully against the fence so that only the bars and saddle were in contact.

  14. @DVMR

    Agree: IF Mr. Froome had continued to carry his steed as he minced his way up Mt. Ventoux, THAT would have been worthy of admiration, exultation even. Instead, he abandoned his loyal Dogma as if abandoning his pooch on a dark country lane because it pooped in his shoes. For shame, Mr. Froome. For shame.

  15. @frank

    @Rick

    To be fair I think is should be pointed out that even in a panicked state, Mr. Froome adhered to Rule #65.

    It must be cherished, and when leaning it against a wall, must be leaned carefully such that only the bars, saddle, or tires come in contact with the wall or post. This is true even when dismounting prior to collapsing after the World Championship Time Trial.

    How did he adhere to it? He chucked it away, non?

    He didn’t just chuck it into the crowd. He deliberately leaned it against one of the motos that had stopped.

  16. I don’t blame him one bit; the place was a shit-show. The mob of people were in charge and he made a decision, we have no idea what his race radio was telling him to do.

    If I was on his radio I would have told him to haul ass, leave the bike we are on the way and will catch up as fast as we can make our way through this drunken mob in their fucked up outfits.

    This was a case of the fans getting what they wanted with no thoughts for the safety or fairness of the race. If Froome or any of the other riders crashed on their own, in a open area with zero outside influences and started running without their bike it would be a different matter, but this was crowd induced.

    I say shame on the officials for allowing such things, and like any kind of mob or crowd that gets its way- it just emboldens them for further douchbagery.

  17. @Dean C

    I don’t blame him one bit; the place was a shit-show. The mob of people were in charge and he made a decision, we have no idea what his race radio was telling him to do.

    If I was on his radio I would have told him to haul ass, leave the bike we are on the way and will catch up as fast as we can make our way through this drunken mob in their fucked up outfits.

    This was a case of the fans getting what they wanted with no thoughts for the safety or fairness of the race. If Froome or any of the other riders crashed on their own, in a open area with zero outside influences and started running without their bike it would be a different matter, but this was crowd induced.

    I say shame on the officials for allowing such things, and like any kind of mob or crowd that gets its way- it just emboldens them for further douchbagery.

    10-4 to all this. Froome did not stand around but made things happen by taking off up the road in what was a purely wacked situation. I love it. Oh if only he’d hoisted his bike on to his shoulder and took off it would’ve been pure gold. Or have jumped on the downed moto… joking.

    @kybikegirl >>> cracked like Nairo’s desire… <<< I bet you’re right about this! Perfect. Maybe, just maybe, he’s icy cold cool and simply waiting for the last week… doubt it.

  18. @Dean C

    Agreed. Personally, I blame Poland, or at least that numb-nuts wearing the Polish flag with a sign which stated (if my Polish is up to snuff) “I am a douchbag, run me over.”

    I’m just glad my kids weren’t watching it go down with me (their vocabularies would have been expanded mightily).

  19. I think that a couple of things need to be considered here:even though these pros do it regularly and for a living, crowds like they had on the Ventoux have got to make the top riders shit scared. They know that one of two drunken assholes can wreck their race and/or their season. Add in the physical effort to the psychological stress and the adrenalin must be pumping like crazy. If I was in Froome’s Sidis, would I want to just stand there amidst the braying mob and suffer untold indignities or get the hell out of there, however ungainly? He made a split second call and ran, giving us what will, quite frankly, be one of the classic Tour images.

    BTW, I’ve seen the footage of wee Nairo getting some “neutral” assistance care of a Mavic wheel. Movistar need to STFU.

  20. Just one observation. Isn’t there a rule which states that riders involved in a crash within 3km of the finish will get the same time as the group they crashed with? Maybe this is only true for sprint finishes? If not, the they were right to give Frome and Porte the same time as Mollema. Rules are Rules, and must be followed.

  21. @VbyV

    Apparently that rule doesn’t apply on uphill/mountain finishes, so in the end it was up to the commissaire’s discretion. I’m sure their decision was helped by Adam Yates’ loudly and repeatedly stated wishes that he not get the jersey through this incident.

    @Dean C

    Hear, hear.

    I love that Froome has said that they’re constantly joking about the running in the Sky bus – imagine if he was taking it all too seriously when it’s so patently ridiculous!

  22. @ChrisO

    amen

  23. Porte should have punched him in the face for running too close to the riders as he rode past.

    Also, it happens more often than you might think:

  24. @dyalander

    Porte should have punched him in the face for running too close to the riders as he rode past.

    Also, it happens more often than you might think:

    Cancellara pacing Contador back in their Saxo days.

  25. PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME, PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME, PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME, PEANUT BETTER WITH A BASEBALL BAT………………

  26. @frank

    I recall a story about you running across a bike course during a certain French road race in 2006. Another good reason for you to eschew running.

    Maybe Paolo Salvodelli gave you a passing thought last week too.

  27. Looks like Froomey should try out for the Kenyan track team for Rio this summer with those running skills.

  28. @frank

    I must argue in the Rechtbank van eerste aanleg (thanks, Wikipedia). Court of First Instance on behalf of Monsieur Froome.

    Upon the last paragraph of explanation of Rule #42, …and should only run if being chased. And even then, one should only run fast enough to prevent capture. (sic)

    Your Honor, I rest my case.

  29. @frank

    @Owen

    @Frank You should give us a list of rules that it is and is not OK for the pros to break. Just so we all know.

    Ignoring the grammatical errors in your request:

    Rules that are OK for the Pros to break: Zero.

    Rules that are Not OK for the Pros to break: All of them.

    The fact is, The Rules aren’t about Looking Pro, they are about Looking (and therefore feeling) Fantastic.

    Grammatical errors add nuance and character to my posts, like a fine wine.

    Which is better, to look fantastic atop the podium in Paris or stand there to avoid running? Someone somewhere argued that he *was* being chased and only ran fast enough to avoid losing yellow.

  30. @ChrisO

    Getting owned by some middle aged bloke dressed in funny clothing who chooses to waste most of his day off in pursuit of something he will never achieve.

    The parallels are scary. And it just earned a brownie point at cyclings expense…. :/

  31. @frank

    @Clank

    Excellent piece Frank. I watched Froome mincing up Ventoux in utter disbelief. Surely there could be few clearer violations of Rule #42. I was also a bit alarmed that his $18,000 Dogma couldn’t survive a nudge from a Moto as well. Surely the situation called for a casual inspection of the damage, a Gallic shrug of the shoulders and a patient wait for the replacement hideously expensive carbon Pinarello which apparently used champagne stems for seat posts. Having never worn the Maillot Jaune or even come close to winning any of my local D grade races should not of course disqualify me from criticising him, just as it doesn’t prevent me from shouting tactical orders at the TV. Rule #42 is there for a reason – it prevents us from looking even more ridiculous than we already do. A grown man wearing a yellow skivvy trying to climb a mountain in tiny tip toes does not help our cause.

    You, my son, are going places. Exceptionally strong work. Champagne Stems for seat posts, that is some solid French design filtering into those Italian frames. We need to look into that. There must be some tax violations in there somewhere, that could be fun.

    And for the record, even if you’re fat, slow, and stupid, it doesn’t disqualify us (me) from judging wildly from the comfort of our favorite armchair.

    That FroomeDogma is apparently so fragile that if you over something like 70-75kg then you can’t even ride it.

    But, can’t you just picture Sagan in the same situation? I envision him getting off the ground, knowing that the only reason he hits the deck is because of a moto or because he wishes it to be so. As he watches his rivals head up the road, he gazes down at his fractured bike and (provided he didn’t then ride it like a unicycle, which is also possible), he would proceed to start chatting with the crowd and taking selfies until an adequate machine was delivered to him.

    Is this not, then, more of a statement about one’s ability to be Casually Deliberate rather than debating the matter in the context of Rule #42? (I.e. Was he being chased? Does “caught” imply rivals or only flesh-eating mammals?)

  32. @BacklashJack

    I envision Sagan jumping on the motorbike and doing a wheelie up to the finish line!

  33. @dancollins

    @BacklashJack

    I envision Sagan jumping on the motorbike and doing a wheelie up to the finish line!

    Well luckily we have something of a precedent when it comes to Sagan’s reaction to being knocked off by a moto, and I think it’s best described as a kind of “Hulk SMASH!” type reaction.

  34. @BacklashJack

    @frank

    @Clank

    Excellent piece Frank. I watched Froome mincing up Ventoux in utter disbelief. Surely there could be few clearer violations of Rule #42. I was also a bit alarmed that his $18,000 Dogma couldn’t survive a nudge from a Moto as well. Surely the situation called for a casual inspection of the damage, a Gallic shrug of the shoulders and a patient wait for the replacement hideously expensive carbon Pinarello which apparently used champagne stems for seat posts. Having never worn the Maillot Jaune or even come close to winning any of my local D grade races should not of course disqualify me from criticising him, just as it doesn’t prevent me from shouting tactical orders at the TV. Rule #42 is there for a reason – it prevents us from looking even more ridiculous than we already do. A grown man wearing a yellow skivvy trying to climb a mountain in tiny tip toes does not help our cause.

    You, my son, are going places. Exceptionally strong work. Champagne Stems for seat posts, that is some solid French design filtering into those Italian frames. We need to look into that. There must be some tax violations in there somewhere, that could be fun.

    And for the record, even if you’re fat, slow, and stupid, it doesn’t disqualify us (me) from judging wildly from the comfort of our favorite armchair.

    That FroomeDogma is apparently so fragile that if you over something like 70-75kg then you can’t even ride it.

    But, can’t you just picture Sagan in the same situation? I envision him getting off the ground, knowing that the only reason he hits the deck is because of a moto or because he wishes it to be so. As he watches his rivals head up the road, he gazes down at his fractured bike and (provided he didn’t then ride it like a unicycle, which is also possible), he would proceed to start chatting with the crowd and taking selfies until an adequate machine was delivered to him.

    Is this not, then, more of a statement about one’s ability to be Casually Deliberate rather than debating the matter in the context of Rule #42? (I.e. Was he being chased? Does “caught” imply rivals or only flesh-eating mammals?)

    You might want to pop outside and try lifting the nearest motorbike, or even just the front of it. One of the great things about carbon fibre is the ability to design where its strength is and where it isn’t. The benefits of that is being able to choose what flexes and in which direction as well as saving weight by not having the unnecessary bulk required by strengthening bits that don’t need it. Undoubtedly, Pinnerello could make the Dogma strong enough to withstand being hit/run over by a moto carrying two people and a stack of gear but it’d be pretty shit at going up mountains.

    As for Froome’s subsequent behaviour, the decision to run may not have been the right one but he carried it off with dignity and as much style as you could possibly hope for from a tall, skinny, ungainly man in Lycra and cleats. More of a restrained jog than a clattering panicked sprint. Would we really have applauded him if he’d stopped for selfies? We are, after all a community that takes pride in the importance of looking good both on and off the bike above all else. Stopping to take selfies halfway up such an iconic climb as Ventoux would have been a far greater abuse of the yellow jersey.

  35. @Mikael Liddy

    @dancollins

    @BacklashJack

    I envision Sagan jumping on the motorbike and doing a wheelie up to the finish line!

    Well luckily we have something of a precedent when it comes to Sagan’s reaction to being knocked off by a moto, and I think it’s best described as a kind of “Hulk SMASH!” type reaction.

    You have to think that if Sagan could have spotted the “fan” that caused the blockage the result may have been more like this?

  36. I think the main thing that bothers me (apart from the potential Rule #42 infraction) was that it probably didn’t save him any time; in fact he was running AWAY from the support vehicles with the replacement bikes.

    What’s worse than running? Pointless running.

  37. @RobSandy

    I think the main thing that bothers me (apart from the potential Rule #42 infraction) was that it probably didn’t save him any time; in fact he was running AWAY from the support vehicles with the replacement bikes.

    What’s worse than running? Pointless running.

    When you read his own comments he was just trying to find somewhere with a bit of space. If he thought the start of the fencing was just up the road it would have made sense to head there.

  38. @Teocalli

    @RobSandy

    I think the main thing that bothers me (apart from the potential Rule #42 infraction) was that it probably didn’t save him any time; in fact he was running AWAY from the support vehicles with the replacement bikes.

    What’s worse than running? Pointless running.

    When you read his own comments he was just trying to find somewhere with a bit of space. If he thought the start of the fencing was just up the road it would have made sense to head there.

    We don’t want none of your new-fangled ‘logic’ or ‘facts’ around here.

  39. @RobSandy

    @Teocalli

    @RobSandy

    I think the main thing that bothers me (apart from the potential Rule #42 infraction) was that it probably didn’t save him any time; in fact he was running AWAY from the support vehicles with the replacement bikes.

    What’s worse than running? Pointless running.

    When you read his own comments he was just trying to find somewhere with a bit of space. If he thought the start of the fencing was just up the road it would have made sense to head there.

    We don’t want none of your new-fangled ‘logic’ or ‘facts’ around here.

    Dang sorry. I’ll go back in the corner and continue beating myself with a mini-pump.

  40. @Al Shepherd

    What bothers me is that he abandoned his mortally wounded bike to the baying mob. Froome briefly lost his mind as the overwhelming urge to win took over but the image should have of him carrying his dead steed with him. In this there would have been great poignancy.

    Ultimately, I need to look into my heart and find forgiveness though. I do this because the man attacked the peloton with the rainbow jersey and it was good. The man also descended like an absolute mentalist and it was truly exhilarating/terrifying.

    100% agree.

  41. I still can’t quite believe I saw someone in the yellow jersey running up a mountain in cycling shoes. So damn bizarre!

  42. @Teocalli

    @Teocalli

    @Mikael Liddy

    @dancollins

    @BacklashJack

    I envision Sagan jumping on the motorbike and doing a wheelie up to the finish line!

    Well luckily we have something of a precedent when it comes to Sagan’s reaction to being knocked off by a moto, and I think it’s best described as a kind of “Hulk SMASH!” type reaction.

    You have to think that if Sagan could have spotted the “fan” that caused the blockage the result may have been more like this?

    I think we can all agree that Hinault had a very classic way of resolving disputes. Le Blaireu!

  43. @chris

    @BacklashJack

    @frank

    @Clank

    Excellent piece Frank. I watched Froome mincing up Ventoux in utter disbelief. Surely there could be few clearer violations of Rule #42. I was also a bit alarmed that his $18,000 Dogma couldn’t survive a nudge from a Moto as well. Surely the situation called for a casual inspection of the damage, a Gallic shrug of the shoulders and a patient wait for the replacement hideously expensive carbon Pinarello which apparently used champagne stems for seat posts. Having never worn the Maillot Jaune or even come close to winning any of my local D grade races should not of course disqualify me from criticising him, just as it doesn’t prevent me from shouting tactical orders at the TV. Rule #42 is there for a reason – it prevents us from looking even more ridiculous than we already do. A grown man wearing a yellow skivvy trying to climb a mountain in tiny tip toes does not help our cause.

    You, my son, are going places. Exceptionally strong work. Champagne Stems for seat posts, that is some solid French design filtering into those Italian frames. We need to look into that. There must be some tax violations in there somewhere, that could be fun.

    And for the record, even if you’re fat, slow, and stupid, it doesn’t disqualify us (me) from judging wildly from the comfort of our favorite armchair.

    That FroomeDogma is apparently so fragile that if you over something like 70-75kg then you can’t even ride it.

    But, can’t you just picture Sagan in the same situation? I envision him getting off the ground, knowing that the only reason he hits the deck is because of a moto or because he wishes it to be so. As he watches his rivals head up the road, he gazes down at his fractured bike and (provided he didn’t then ride it like a unicycle, which is also possible), he would proceed to start chatting with the crowd and taking selfies until an adequate machine was delivered to him.

    Is this not, then, more of a statement about one’s ability to be Casually Deliberate rather than debating the matter in the context of Rule #42? (I.e. Was he being chased? Does “caught” imply rivals or only flesh-eating mammals?)

    You might want to pop outside and try lifting the nearest motorbike, or even just the front of it. One of the great things about carbon fibre is the ability to design where its strength is and where it isn’t. The benefits of that is being able to choose what flexes and in which direction as well as saving weight by not having the unnecessary bulk required by strengthening bits that don’t need it. Undoubtedly, Pinnerello could make the Dogma strong enough to withstand being hit/run over by a moto carrying two people and a stack of gear but it’d be pretty shit at going up mountains.

    As for Froome’s subsequent behaviour, the decision to run may not have been the right one but he carried it off with dignity and as much style as you could possibly hope for from a tall, skinny, ungainly man in Lycra and cleats. More of a restrained jog than a clattering panicked sprint. Would we really have applauded him if he’d stopped for selfies? We are, after all a community that takes pride in the importance of looking good both on and off the bike above all else. Stopping to take selfies halfway up such an iconic climb as Ventoux would have been a far greater abuse of the yellow jersey.

    Didn’t mean to imply that a carbon bike would stand up to a moto. I just thought it was nerdy and interesting to note that his climbing bike this year has a weight safety limit that even Kittel would violate.

    Regarding the selfies (and not being a proponent of them), point is taken. Dignified and casually deliberate waiting would be more V.

    However, in light of his overall body of work in this year’s Tour, my opinion of Froome has significantly increased. While the running was an awful sight to behold and is the anti-casually deliberate as it gets, the converse is that it didn’t get much more majestic than the yellow and green jerseys busting out and winning on a breakaway on a flat stage. I believe moments like that will (and should) be why we will remember the 2016 Tour.

  44. @BacklashJack

    I just thought it was nerdy and interesting to note that his climbing bike this year has a weight safety limit that even Kittel would violate.

    Where did you get that info – given that (as I understand it) most bikes have to be weighted up to the UCI weight limit there is a limit to just how fragile a bike is going to be. I do believe the weight limit for a bike was dropped this year, even so I’d still be surprised if it needed such a limit given the strength that can be built into carbon and how light some frames are that are below the UCI limit and available to the public.

  45. @Teocalli

    @BacklashJack

    I just thought it was nerdy and interesting to note that his climbing bike this year has a weight safety limit that even Kittel would violate.

    Where did you get that info – given that (as I understand it) most bikes have to be weighted up to the UCI weight limit there is a limit to just how fragile a bike is going to be. I do believe the weight limit for a bike was dropped this year, even so I’d still be surprised if it needed such a limit given the strength that can be built into carbon and how light some frames are that are below the UCI limit and available to the public.

    depends on which way they lay up the carbon to provide strength, you could squeeze the top tube on my BMC between your fingers, but head tube to seat tube was strong as, I did put the handle bar through that top tube in a crash, had it repaired and I think that repair has actually improved the bike, and I can now wait ‘tranquillo’ without fear of crushing the damn thing.

  46. @piwakawaka

    @Teocalli

    @BacklashJack

    I just thought it was nerdy and interesting to note that his climbing bike this year has a weight safety limit that even Kittel would violate.

    Where did you get that info – given that (as I understand it) most bikes have to be weighted up to the UCI weight limit there is a limit to just how fragile a bike is going to be. I do believe the weight limit for a bike was dropped this year, even so I’d still be surprised if it needed such a limit given the strength that can be built into carbon and how light some frames are that are below the UCI limit and available to the public.

    depends on which way they lay up the carbon to provide strength, you could squeeze the top tube on my BMC between your fingers, but head tube to seat tube was strong as, I did put the handle bar through that top tube in a crash, had it repaired and I think that repair has actually improved the bike, and I can now wait ‘tranquillo’ without fear of crushing the damn thing.

    Quite, that’s the whole point. Sit the moto on the saddle and it would probably not break, sit it sideways on the seat stay and it will crush it back to powder. Kinda like the egg. So unlike some of the silly bikes made in the past purely for climbing that the riders changed to descend I’d be surprised if carbon has such stringent limits in a bike at UCI weight limit. After all the original weight limits were introduced for rider safety originally in the face of bikes falling apart with the material being used at that time (Alu and Magnesium).

  47. @Teocalli

    @BacklashJack

    I just thought it was nerdy and interesting to note that his climbing bike this year has a weight safety limit that even Kittel would violate.

    Where did you get that info – given that (as I understand it) most bikes have to be weighted up to the UCI weight limit there is a limit to just how fragile a bike is going to be. I do believe the weight limit for a bike was dropped this year, even so I’d still be surprised if it needed such a limit given the strength that can be built into carbon and how light some frames are that are below the UCI limit and available to the public.

    The bike was covered in a new GCN video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSw3L46B46A). It isn’t below the UCI limit, but since Froome rides a 56cm frame they can make it closer to the weight of a smaller frame used by some of his rivals. 70kg is the weight limit, apparently. Something like 80g lighter than the standard F8 Dogma 56cm. I suppose the idea is that it removes the weight “penalty” on a bike for taller riders.

  48. @Al Shepherd

    What bothers me is that he abandoned his mortally wounded bike to the baying mob.

    He didn’t abandon his machine to the mob, he walked with it a bit before tossing it up against a moto in a clear violation of Rule #65. I ask myself why he would do such a thing, why he wouldn’t hoist his bike over a shoulder and go… but then I realize his little vermicelli sticks for arms probably weren’t up for the job. It’s at this point my disgust turns back to admiration. Whilst @frank debates how many jugs of milk to buy for fear of bulking up, and I refer back to old tire brochures to decide which year/era of the Michelin Man I looked like today, our boy Froomie obviously had that shit nailed down from the get-go if he’s too weak to lift 6.5-7 kilos. Jealous.

    But I do agree with you later:

    Froome briefly lost his mind as the overwhelming urge to win took over but the image should have [been] of him carrying his dead steed with him.

    Yup. It all boils down to this: Froome made a movie involving Kevin Costner look good by comparison.

  49. @BacklashJack

    @Teocalli

    @BacklashJack

    I just thought it was nerdy and interesting to note that his climbing bike this year has a weight safety limit that even Kittel would violate.

    Where did you get that info – given that (as I understand it) most bikes have to be weighted up to the UCI weight limit there is a limit to just how fragile a bike is going to be. I do believe the weight limit for a bike was dropped this year, even so I’d still be surprised if it needed such a limit given the strength that can be built into carbon and how light some frames are that are below the UCI limit and available to the public.

    The bike was covered in a new GCN video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSw3L46B46A). It isn’t below the UCI limit, but since Froome rides a 56cm frame they can make it closer to the weight of a smaller frame used by some of his rivals. 70kg is the weight limit, apparently. Something like 80g lighter than the standard F8 Dogma 56cm. I suppose the idea is that it removes the weight “penalty” on a bike for taller riders.

    Interesting. Makes you wonder about the other super light frames out there on the market.

  50. @Iandays

    yeah wtf with that useless yellow bike?

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