Il Profeta Progetto

Il Profeta Progetto

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  1. Hey Brett- bel mezzo! What’s the gruppo, did I miss that? Did you turn that baby up to 11?

    @All
    Quit feeding my obsession with vintage steel; I’m following several things on eBay right now, and you’re all going to put me over the edge!

  2. @sgt
    Yeah mate, the Chorus 11 off my Bozzie…

  3. I’m reminded of Trapper John in M*A*S*H. He looks at HotLips and says “Sex! Sex! Bring me sex! That one there! The sultry bitch with the fire in her eyes – take her clothes off and bring her to me!”

    Wants.

  4. Beautiful Team SC and build. I had a Klein Quantum (a real one from Washington, USA), got it in exchange for designing a website for a local bike shop. Scrapped the Shimano gruppo and built it up with Chorus 8spd, then Record 9spd. Climbed and sprinted like a rocket, descended and cornered like a brick. Was always fun when it would “stand up” coming out of a corner during a criterium. After selling it, I couldn’t afford the Team SC so I settled for a silver/black Race with the (apparently needless) carbon seat stays. Absolutely blew away the Klein in all aspects of performance. However following every other, if not every, ride I had to re-set the headset. After several exchanges with Competitive Cyclist the frame went back on a warranty; they went way out of their way to make things work but it was just a terribly designed fork/headset interface. Despite the potential for a repeat of the headset issue, for which I’m sure there’s a solution, one of my wishful project bikes is a PVP Team SC, the 2004/2005 version with a longer top tube. The Team SC is simply an iconic frame. Congratulations Brett!

  5. beautiful job with the Merckx, I think it actually found you, not the other way around

  6. @brett

    I think you gotta admit though, this is pretty hot… in V orange too.

    That thing is sexy as a really sexy thing. Mmmmmmmmmm.

  7. I’ve got a 2007 Merckx Premium Scanduim that I just adore. Absolutely the most amazing bike I have ever ridden. I finally took a few photos and will figure out how to post them in the near future. You have a real beauty there!

  8. My baby.

  9. @Marcus

    The way I see it, just thinking about getting a Klein is a little like watching kiddie porn on the internet.
    Whilst you haven’t ‘done’ anything its still pretty fucking bad.

    WOW! That’s a powerful statement…but fucking awesome. Well stated, Marcus!

  10. That Olmo is great! Love that light, but slick, color scheme.

    And, if any of you need any more old steel inspiration, maybe you want to check out my Tommasini. Got a write-up + photos on here, if you need steel lust…

  11. @Robert
    Cheers Robert, and welcome… I’ve read about the headset issues, so am keeping my eye on that. My steerer had the remnants of an expander plug floating around under a different one inserted, so I fished it out and installed a new plug. It seems to be holding up so far.

    @Buck Rogers
    You holdout! Get them up now!

  12. @brett
    Which steer tube plug did you use?

    Also – are you by chance in the group that rides near the Auckland airport on the weekends? The last two times I’ve been through I’ve seen a group of riders mostly on Merckx bikes. Would be great to extend one of my trips out that way to get some KMs in NZed. Thanks! (aka Robert)

  13. @gravity bob

    No mate, I’m in Wellington…

    I used a plug from a carbon fork I found laying around in the workshop, not sure of the brand but a pretty simple, standard looking expander. Still hasn’t come loose.

  14. Pinarello make an absolute ribber of a carbon expander plug. About as long as my little finger

  15. @brett

    Thanks – sometimes the unknown brand work’s best.

  16. I know, DA on a Merckx is sort of out. But The DA Triple was the lightest at the time for getting my climbing weight over the little knee buster hills around here.

  17. @brett

    @Buck RogersYou holdout! Get them up now!

    ;) More of a situation where I do not have computer access except at work and they will not let me load any photos! Soon, I’ll have them up, hopefully!

  18. @tomb
    DA is ok, triples are not! Awesome bike, I so love anything Molteni.

    @Buck Rogers

    I have time…

  19. @tomb
    Holy Merckx, you’re tall. What size is that? 65 c-t-t? I’m drafting behind you.

  20. @Jeff in PetroMetro
    It is a 62. The photo has an odd perspective. I am 6’3″ but only a 32 or so inseam. I like taller frames so I can get a 59 cm top tube. Plus, I am from the old school ‘fist full of seat post’ time. (The photo actually is how the previous owner had is setup. I have a silver Thompson Road stem on it now with a Control Tech Formidable bar.Plus the seat is a bit lower.)I had to get rid of the Bontrager wheels though. Too few spokes for my taste. Plus they just looked wrong on a classic steel.
    @Brett The triple is what hauls my ‘climbing weight’ around the rollers here in NC. Maybe after I get a few more pounds off I can go to a proper chainset.

  21. Brett.
    Late to post on this due to being sorta off the grid recently, but lovely, lovely build.
    I’m sure you’ll climb like reeshard at k2.
    When’s the first merckx owner’s club meeting?

  22. @Cyclops

    That is a beautiful bike and whilst I do have a couple of Merckx’s on my list I have to say there is something especially Carbone and Barbone about this bike. The devil is certainly in the detail and there is lots of it here. I know its a track bike but its still exudes volumes of Casually Deliberate excellence.

    Also here is a link to the website that I wanted to buy this from before someone beat me to it!!

    Also if any neederlanders come across one of these please let me know!!

  23. Why all the Klein hate? I have a 92 Quantum, and it’s excellent. Stiff – so so stiff.

  24. @rhys

    Why all the Klein hate? I have a 92 Quantum, and it’s excellent. Stiff – so so stiff.

    For me personally, and I’ve ridden with Gary Klein (weird dude), they’re just not pleasing to the eye. And yes they are stiff, like riding a fucking tuning fork. AND, was never into the colors they were painted.

    Sure it’s a nice, light, stiff bike, just…..meh…………

  25. Hello, first post here – this kind of seems like the place to ask a question, as it’s about an aluminium frame, kind of similar to the merckx…

    I’ve got a Pinarello Galileo which I love to bits, although it’s clearly wrong that it’s got a shimano mix on it rather than something italian (in mitigation, I’ve just built some ambrosio excellences onto it…) I have no idea how many k I have logged on it now, I’m guessing it must be up around the 40k mark. The gruppo I’ve got on it is kind of at that point now where chainrings are wearing down etc, (and I have the prospect of getting hold of a seriously cheap, virtually unused sram red replacement…) I have no idea of the lifespan I might get out of this frame, and I don’t really want to change – anyone got any knowledege of lifespans of these things?

    Cheers

    Simon

  26. @Simon

    Hello, first post here – this kind of seems like the place to ask a question, as it’s about an aluminium frame, kind of similar to the merckx…
    I’ve got a Pinarello Galileo which I love to bits, although it’s clearly wrong that it’s got a shimano mix on it rather than something italian (in mitigation, I’ve just built some ambrosio excellences onto it…) I have no idea how many k I have logged on it now, I’m guessing it must be up around the 40k mark. The gruppo I’ve got on it is kind of at that point now where chainrings are wearing down etc, (and I have the prospect of getting hold of a seriously cheap, virtually unused sram red replacement…) I have no idea of the lifespan I might get out of this frame, and I don’t really want to change – anyone got any knowledege of lifespans of these things?
    Cheers
    Simon

    Welcome! First off, let me say that getting the Red Group, if its a good deal, will never go unused – put it on the Galileo and when the frame needs replacement, go ahead and replace the frame, keep the Group. You can move the working parts off the Galileo onto a Bike #2 and so on the progression continues.

    As for the frame, alu fatigues over time and will eventually crack and break. How long and when all depends on how hard your ride it and how well you maintain it. I’d say take it into a shop and have it inspected, and get an idea of its life that way. If there are no cracks, you’re probably OK at least for a while.

  27. Thanks frank, I think that’s what I’m going to do – I baby my bikes in the house, but I seem to be spending more and more of my time finding unpaved and horrible roads to ride. I should start accepting I’m going to be breaking more things on a regukar basis and plan my bike succession that way…

  28. @Simon

    Yeah, what Frank said. I’m hoping Il Profetta just sees out the cobbles in spring, and if it does break it happens as I cross the line in the Velodrome or at the top of the Geraardsbergen! Then it goes straight to the pool room.

  29. @brett
    +1. If we could get jersey badges, that would be worth one.

  30. Brett,

    How’s the headset holding up? I have a line on a Team SC with the same finish.

    Cheers!

  31. @gravity bob
    No problems at all, I got a Chorus expander and top cap and have had to re-adjust it once…

  32. @Brett,

    Good to hear. Which model year Chorus headset did you use?

  33. @gravity bob
    Not headset, just the fork expander and top cap. I have no idea what year, I got it for $15 off TradeMe… but it holds everything in!

  34. @Brett,

    Good to know. Thanks again. The more I look at the DFF ’02 model the more I like it over the LD 03-04 PVP version.

  35. Brett – asking for a little help mate. I’m getting closer to pulling the trigger on an 02 Team SC. The frame is a size 56cm, same as yours. 56 is clearly stamped on the bottom bracket shell. What’s in question is the head tube length. The seller is saying it measures 188mm. That sounds pretty tall. None of the Merckx geometry charts I can find online have head tube measurements. On your 56cm Team SC, could you verify the head tube length?

    Much appreciated!!

  36. @gravity bob

    Brett – asking for a little help mate. I’m getting closer to pulling the trigger on an 02 Team SC. The frame is a size 56cm, same as yours. 56 is clearly stamped on the bottom bracket shell. What’s in question is the head tube length. The seller is saying it measures 188mm. That sounds pretty tall. None of the Merckx geometry charts I can find online have head tube measurements. On your 56cm Team SC, could you verify the head tube length?
    Much appreciated!!

    @ Brett – no worries; got the measurement from the seller.

  37. @gravity bob
    Sorry mate, just saw this… mine is just under 180mm.

  38. Why no love for Shimano-equipped Merckx’s? Think of all those 7 Eleven and Motorola squads. Those were some fine looking bikes.

  39. Oh my Merckx… I have been tortured by the Team SC for years. First it was a constant nagging and yearning for the RWB version that taunted me on the road, in bicycle shops, and in pictures. Finances at the time only allowed for a Race model (in silver and black) that ultimately had to be returned due to a warranty issue with the headset and fork. Soured by the experience, I foolishly opted to replace my Merckx with a Colnago which has long since departed.

    Shortly after becoming a Velominatus the torture returned because of Brett sharing his acquisition of a DFF Team SC. As I’ve looked at the images of the DFF, and recently spent hours on the trainer watching DVDs of the 2002 classics (most notably Paris-Roubaix), the nagging and yearning for a RWB Team SC has subsided; it’s the DFF version that now taunts and tortures me…

    Rule #12 deems I should acquire a Merckx Team SC. Recently I’ve come across several new, old stock 2002 DFF framesets. Regretfully none have been my size. However, there is one Team SC in my size, new, old stock, I’ve found in the not too common transparent blue livery.

    Although the most heralded and iconic finish for the Team SC is arguably the 2002 DFF, would not the transparent blue finish be an adequate alternate choice?

    The fork on the 2002 was not perfect. Substituting a nude Ouzo Pro carbon fork on the transparent version would not be an affront to the aesthetic as it would to the DFF frame and fork coordinated finish. And when one has joined Herr Ullrich for too many sausages and pies in the off season, one would not look as foolish on a non-team livery Team SC.

    So I ask the Velominati; should I continue to search for the elusive DFF or jump on the transparent blue?

    g

  40. That one looks great!

  41. @brett

    Thanks Brett. Looks like you have a 55cm according to the Merckx catalog. The 56cm is stated to have a massive 188mm headtube.

    g

  42. @gravity bob

    So I ask the Velominati; should I continue to search for the elusive DFF or jump on the transparent blue?

    Jump on it! Especially given it’s NOS condition. I agree the DFF paint is lovely, but its only paint. The ride will be what draws you to it again and again.

  43. @Jeff in PetroMetro

    Whoa, risen from the dead! Nice to see you posting here again mate.

  44. Or…. those were really old post and I wasn’t paying attention. Doh. Sad face.

  45. @gravity bob
    Ohhh, I LOVE my 2007 Scandium Merckx Premium! I have the blue colour frame and think it is perfect. Super bike, you will not be disappointed. Sooooo stiff and light. Just love it!

  46. Here she is. Stock photo, exact same bike except I have black handlebar tape.

  47. @gravity bob

    @brett
    Thanks Brett. Looks like you have a 55cm according to the Merckx catalog. The 56cm is stated to have a massive 188mm headtube.
    g

    Indeed I do! It’s stamped a 55… so technically, it’s too small for me! But it fits fine with a 130mm stem, and doesn’t look too ridiculous.

  48. @brett

    Technically the 55 is too small for me as well, so I’ll have a similar setup. The head tube on the 56 is simply too tall, even with a -17 stem.

  49. @Buck Rogers

    Nice to know! I’ve looked for Premium framesets as well; specifically with that blue/black finish. Very nice.

  50. Impressive frame and great recollection !! Thanx to the big man too !!

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