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Velominati Super Prestige: Giro Rosa 2014

Velominati Super Prestige: Giro Rosa 2014

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Why are women’s races run concurrently with men’s races? I would get it if it was the women’s Tour de France, but I don’t get it when it is the women’s Giro in July. Since the Tour de Swiss there has been a lack of stage racing (in my TV watching schedule) and seemingly a perfect time to present a women’s stage race. What do I know? Evidently, not enough, but it is here and we should appreciate it, if it is properly covered, which it won’t be, because of the TOUR de FRANCE, FFS.

The 25th Giro Rosa  includes 953 km of racing from Caserta to Santuario Madonna del Ghisallo with starts around noon, every stage, how civilized. American Mara Abbott will be defending her 2013 victory. It was gained on her climbing ability, a skill Ms. Vos has but somehow could not match last year. To be racing in Italy in summer; everyone will be lining up their bikes for this stage race. I imagine the women will be enjoying La Dolce Vita more than the men of the Giro in May. My impression is the women race just as hard but have more fun throughout the days of a stage race.

Podium Café always has some good lead-in coverage for women’s racing here. A provisional start list complete with rider’s twitter and instagram accounts is here, the kids. As we all know, points scored for women’s VSP races count equally for the overall 2014 prizes. Prizes you ask?

  • First place overall wins a Veloforma Strada iR Velominati Edition frame in addition to the customary VSP winner’s VVorkshop Apron
  • Second place overall wins a set of hand built CR Wheelworks Arenberg wheelset in a custom Velominati paint scheme laced to orange Chris King hubs. (CR Wheelworks is Café Roubaix’s new wheel goods brand.)
  • Third place overall wins a full Velominati V-Kit with accompanying custom orange Bont Vaypor+ road shoes.

To be clear on the Delgado issue, the time clock on the VSP banner is it, not the actual start in Italy. Refresh your browser to make sure you are still in pre-delgado status.

Final Race Results
1. VOS Marianne
2. FERRAND PREVOT Pauline
3. VAN DER BREGGEN Anna
4. ABBOTT Mara
5. LONGO BORGHINI Elisa
Final VSP Results
1. blue (19 points)
2. andrew (17 points)
3. xyxax (16 points)
4. JohnB (15 points)
5. Lukas (15 points)
6. plynie (15 points)
7. Rob (15 points)
8. RedRanger (15 points)
9. Blah (15 points)
10. justinevan88 (15 points)
11. taon24 (14 points)
12. il muro di manayunk (14 points)
13. Buck Rogers (14 points)
14. VeloVita (14 points)
15. Sauterelle (14 points)
16. zeitzmar (14 points)
17. LA Dave (14 points)
18. Deakus (14 points)
19. the Engine (14 points)
20. dpalazzo (14 points)
21. Barracuda (13 points)
22. Steampunk (13 points)
23. Stephen (13 points)
24. Ccos (12 points)
25. chrismurphy92 (12 points)
26. CanuckChuck (12 points)
27. TheVid (12 points)
28. Bianchi Denti (12 points)
29. Xponti (12 points)
30. Two Ball Billy (12 points)
31. freddy (12 points)
32. dyalander (12 points)
33. Chris S (12 points)
34. R00tdown (12 points)
35. Erik (12 points)
36. foggypeake (12 points)
37. eenies (12 points)
38. Floridian (12 points)
39. VirenqueForever (12 points)
40. LIIIXI (12 points)
41. Father of Four (12 points)
42. Gianni (12 points)
43. Wardy (11 points)
44. unversio (10 points)
45. girl (10 points)
46. DCR (10 points)
47. KW (9 points)
48. Fins (8 points)
49. BoogieStudio22 (8 points)
50. Yagerbomb (7 points)
51. TOM.NELS2120 (7 points)
52. DeKerr (7 points)
53. geoffrey (7 points)
54. simonsaunders (7 points)
55. seemunkee (7 points)
56. Minnesota Expat (7 points)
57. scaler911 (7 points)
58. Jay (7 points)
59. Kevin (7 points)
60. Ron (6 points)
61. Mikael Liddy (6 points)
62. JCM (6 points)
63. moondance (6 points)
64. Tom Mc (6 points)
65. VeloJello (6 points)
66. Rhodri (6 points)
67. Duende (6 points)
68. tony macaroni (6 points)
69. LeoTea (6 points)
70. roberto (6 points)
71. The Grande Fondue (6 points)
72. Haldy (6 points)
73. Chris (5 points)
74. Nate (4 points)
75. sthilzy (4 points)
76. dancollins (4 points)
77. Beers (4 points)
78. Roobar (4 points)
79. Shlumpen (4 points)
80. Harminator (4 points)
81. piwakawaka (4 points)
82. Fausto Crapiz (4 points)
83. HMBSteve (4 points)
84. TheDon (4 points)
85. anthony (4 points)
86. ramenvelo (4 points)
87. strathlubnaig (2 points)
88. Rom (2 points)
89. il ciclista medio (2 points)

// Velominati Super Prestige

  1. VSP PICKS:

    1. Marianne Vos
    2. Elizabeth Armistead
    3. Emma Johansson
    4. Elisa Longo Borghini
    5. Tiffany Cromwell

  2. VSP PICKS:

    1. Borghini
    2. Pooley
    3. Vos
    4. Johansson
    5. Abbot

  3. VSP PICKS:

    1. Mara Abbott
    2. Marianne Vos
    3. Evelyn Stevens
    4. Emma Johansson
    5. Elisa Longo Borghini

  4. VSP PICKS:

    1. Pooley
    2. Ferrand Prevot
    3. Hausler
    4. Vos
    5. Longo Borghini

  5. VSP PICKS:

    1. Mara Abbott
    2. Emma Johansson
    3. Marianne Vos
    4. Emma Pooley
    5. Elisa Longo Borghini

  6. Only women’s race I’m not tipping Vos for. She only won 3/8 stages last year, so I’ll have to tip her teammate instead.

    VSP PICKS:

    1. Pauline Ferrand Prevot
    2. Mara Abbott
    3. Claudia Häusler
    4. Marianne Vos
    5. Evelyn Stevens

  7. VSP PICKS:

    1. Abbot
    2. Vos
    3. Stevens
    4. Pooley
    5. Bronzini

  8. VSP PICKS:

    1. Abbot
    2. Vos
    3. Ferrand-Prevot
    4. Pooley
    5. Lichtenberg

  9. VSP PICKS:

    1. Mara Abbot
    2. Vos
    3. Pooley
    4. Evelyn Stevens
    5. Claudia Hausler

  10. Heads up! Claudia Hausler got hitched and is now Lichtenberg.

    VSP PICKS:

    1. Mara Abbot
    2. Vos
    3. Emma Pooley
    4. Emma Johansson
    5. Claudia Lichtenberg

  11. VSP PICKS:

    1. Mara Abbott
    2. Vos
    3. Emma Pooley
    4. Emma Johansson
    5. Claudia Lichtenberg

  12. VSP PICKS:

    1. Vos
    2. Abbot
    3. Pooley
    4. Bronzini
    5. Ferrand-Prevot

  13. VSP PICKS:

    1. Vos
    2. Abbott
    3. Johansson
    4. Stevens
    5. Pooley

  14. VSP PICKS:

    1. Marianne Vos
    2. Emma Johansson
    3. Eleonora Van Dijk
    4. Elisa Longo Borghini
    5. Giorgia Bronzini

  15. VSP PICKS:

    1. vos
    2. abbott
    3. Emma Johansson
    4. bronzini
    5. pooley

  16. Fuck. Delgadoed due to shit 3G reception. Gutted.

  17. Fuck.Just spent ages scrutinising the form guides and deliberating over choices to find I’ve Delgado’d. Fuck.

  18. Delgado’ed too.

  19. What’s with the conflicting info on the VSP?  I Delgado’d Suisse and now the Giro Rosa due to conflicting banners.  At the top of my refreshed page, I still seem to have 1D 13H 59M til closing on the Giro Rosa, yet the spot to enter picks at the bottom say closed.  What gives?  The TDF clock appears to be working correctly.

  20. Stupid family vacations…another F&^%ing delgado

  21. Vos Boss looking strong.  Pooley in 38th and Amialiusik 24th but still in touch…bring on the mountains quick!

  22. Am I the only one who is very disappointed with the lack of coverage for this race?  It would be awesome to watch these ladies lay down the V.  There were a bunch of their races on TV earlier this season, which was fantastic, but it seems like it’s all TdF now.

    Don’t get me wrong, I love Le Tour, but these women put on some incredible racing.

  23. @TheVid

    Am I the only one who is very disappointed with the lack of coverage for this race? It would be awesome to watch these ladies lay down The V. There were a bunch of their races on TV earlier this season, which was fantastic, but it seems like it’s all TdF now.

    Don’t get me wrong, I love Le Tour, but these women put on some incredible racing.

    I am right there with you, mate.

  24. No change in the standings, but but Mary V keeps nothing up the goods by paying her respects to the Pantani monument.

  25. @frank

    @TheVid

    Am I the only one who is very disappointed with the lack of coverage for this race? It would be awesome to watch these ladies lay down The V. There were a bunch of their races on TV earlier this season, which was fantastic, but it seems like it’s all TdF now.

    Don’t get me wrong, I love Le Tour, but these women put on some incredible racing.

    I am right there with you, mate.

    Cyclingtips is getting some awesome daily diary type posts from the female riders during the races. Tiff Cromwell is doing the Giro.

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    No change in the standings, but but Mary V keeps nothing up the goods by paying her respects to the Pantani monument.

    This. Merckxdammit, this. This all the Merckxdamn time. Cycling needs way more Vos, and way less everything else. TdF dickwads need to find a way to put her in leTour. THere’s some bullshit rule about having to have a dick to ride leTour? Rescind it. Put her in. I’d watch. I’d pay. I’d be a sponsor whore. Vos is cycling.

    Where’s the tylenol?

  27. Giro d’Italia Femminile, stage five
    1. Marianne Vos (Rabo-Liv)
    2. Giorgia Bronzini (Wiggle-Honda)
    3. Shelley Olds (Alé Cipollini)
    4. Emma Johansson (Orica-AIS)
    5. Chloe Hosking (Hitec Products)
    6. Annalisa Cucinotta (Servetto Footon)
    7. Carmen Small (Specialized-Lululemon)
    8. Glada Borgato (Estado Mexico-Faren Kuota)
    9. Lucy Garner (Giant-Shimano)
    10. Edita Janeliunaite (Forno d’Asolo-Astute)

    Overall classification after stage five

    1. Marianne Vos (Rabo-Liv) in 14:57:22
    2. Pauline Ferrand-Prevot (Rabo-Liv) at 0:41
    3. Elisa Longo-Borghini (Hitec Products) at 0:49
    4. Annamiek van Vleuten (Rabo-Liv) at 2:01
    5. Emma Johansson (Orica-AIS) at 2:10
    6. Megan Guarnier (Boels-Dolmans) at 2:10
    7. Claudia Lichtenberg (Giant-Shimano) at 2:13
    8. Anna van der Breggan (Rabo-Liv) at 2:14
    9. Ashleigh Moolman (Hitec Products) at 2:18
    10. Audrey Cordon (Hitec Products) at 2:44
    Read more at http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/lucy-garner-makes-mark-debut-giro-rosa-sprint-129737#O5v0Kl5EBuoJleub.99

  28. Tomorrow the last stage (9th) finishing at the Madonna del Ghisallo.

    Today (stage 8th) the girls suffered like hell on the last slope.

  29. Rabo-Liv in places 1, 2, & 3?? That is one insanely strong team.

  30. Vos takes a monster second win in the Giro Rossa and @blue takes the overall. I’ll make up a little Giro Rossa winners badge a little later today. Nice work!

    Final Race Results
    1. VOS Marianne
    2. FERRAND PREVOT Pauline
    3. VAN DER BREGGEN Anna
    4. ABBOTT Mara
    5. LONGO BORGHINI Elisa

    Final VSP Results
    1. blue (19 points)
    2. andrew (17 points)
    3. xyxax (16 points)
    4. JohnB (15 points)
    5. Lukas (15 points)
    6. plynie (15 points)
    7. Rob (15 points)
    8. RedRanger (15 points)
    9. Blah (15 points)
    10. justinevan88 (15 points)
    89. il ciclista medio (2 points)

  31. @Steampunk

    Rabo-Liv in places 1, 2, & 3?? That is one insanely strong team.

    Yeah it is, but they weren’t averse to some pretty underhand tactics either. Skip to about 38.20…

  32. @Mikael Liddy wow, never seen that before, didn’t even think of it! Have the men used this tactic? What about race rules? Can you barge your way past them, crashing if you must? I don’t know how Abbott kept her cool, I would not have been able to.

  33. @piwakawaka well that’s the thing. If that were a sprint, they’d be relegated for it, but it seems to have been allowed because they were going uphill. Can’t imagine the badger would have stood for it, we might have seen this type of action unleashed on his fellow competitors.

  34. @Mikael Liddy

    @piwakawaka well that’s the thing. If that were a sprint, they’d be relegated for it, but it seems to have been allowed because they were going uphill. Can’t imagine the badger would have stood for it, we might have seen this type of action unleashed on his fellow competitors.

    Pepper spray out of the middle pocket and straight into the bitches eyes.   Thats amazing, and blatant.

  35. @Barracuda

    @Mikael Liddy

    @piwakawaka well that’s the thing. If that were a sprint, they’d be relegated for it, but it seems to have been allowed because they were going uphill. Can’t imagine the badger would have stood for it, we might have seen this type of action unleashed on his fellow competitors.

    Pepper spray out of the middle pocket and straight into the bitches eyes. Thats amazing, and blatant.

    Yep that would be my response…hard to believe they couldn’t just sit on her wheel, hard to believe Vos would condone that sort of carry on, but she did.

  36. @Barracuda @piwakawaka some pretty wishy washy defence from their DS – http://www.podiumcafe.com/2014/7/16/5909155/koos-moerenhout-giro-rosa-2014

  37. @Mikael Liddy

    @Barracuda @piwakawaka some pretty wishy washy defence from their DS – http://www.podiumcafe.com/2014/7/16/5909155/koos-moerenhout-giro-rosa-2014

    Very poor form and the DS is in denial. Underhanded and shouldnt have been tolerated by race officials.  A Lezyne hand pump through the front wheel or a Robbie McEwen “brake check” would have fixed the cheating so and so’s

  38. It wasn’t pretty, and it may not adhere to the highest Corinthian ideals of sport, but I don’t think it was wrong to the extent that it was against the rules or could be called cheating.

    Boxing riders in is a valid tactic – the only problem would be if it was putting anybody in danger but there was no physical contact and Abbot wasn’t looking like she was going to fall or be pushed.

    A really strong, fast attack would have got past them. If she couldn’t do that then tough. But I think that’s why you don’t see it in the men’s racing. First because a GC contender can attack fast enough to get side by side before they can be blocked and second because in men’s racing you would never have a situation on a crucial stage where one team had three riders in a break of four, and all of them aiming for the podium. If you did I would expect they’d try the same.

  39. @Mikael Liddy

    @Barracuda

    @ChrisO

    Looking at the footage, it appears that Rabo-Liv are sailing pretty close to the wind with regard to the rules.

    They are utterly fucked in the sportsmanship stakes. I’ve lost all respect for those 3 athletes, including M Vos.  She is better than that.  They all should be ashamed of themselves.

    Not buying your argument @ChrisO.  You don’t see it in men’s racing and you sure as hell should never see it in women’s racing ever again.

  40. @mouse +1. I can’t believe Vos had a part in this. What the fuck was she thinking. Not that it excuses the other two, but she should be well above this sort of thing. She was on a pedestal for me, but she just fell off it.

  41. @Geraint

    @mouse +1. I can’t believe Vos had a part in this. What the fuck was she thinking. Not that it excuses the other two, but she should be well above this sort of thing. She was on a pedestal for me, but she just fell off it.

    Agreed.  Within the rules or not, for a sport struggling to gain viewership, exposure and respect, this is pure shit.

  42. I don’t think the boxing in is so terrible as some are making it out to be. Certainly not the cleanest way to win a race, but is it really worse than the guy who sits on all day then jumps for a stage win?

    To me the bigger problem here is that one team could be in that situation – 3 riders up the road and top 3 on GC. It seems like Rabo is funded on a level that most of these other teams can only dream of. If women’s cycling is going to progress there needs to be more competition.

  43. @ChrisO

    It wasn’t pretty, and it may not adhere to the highest Corinthian ideals of sport, but I don’t think it was wrong to the extent that it was against the rules or could be called cheating.

    Boxing riders in is a valid tactic – the only problem would be if it was putting anybody in danger but there was no physical contact and Abbot wasn’t looking like she was going to fall or be pushed.

    A really strong, fast attack would have got past them. If she couldn’t do that then tough. But I think that’s why you don’t see it in the men’s racing. First because a GC contender can attack fast enough to get side by side before they can be blocked and second because in men’s racing you would never have a situation on a crucial stage where one team had three riders in a break of four, and all of them aiming for the podium. If you did I would expect they’d try the same.

    I have to agree with @ChrisO on this one. Abbott finished the Giro less than 2 minutes down on Vos, and just 22 seconds of the podium. Last year, she beat Vos in the mountains to win. It was within the best interest of Rabo-Liv to keep Abbott in check. If Abbott could have attacked and gotten away, she would have.

    There was no contact, no pushing, no danger to any of the riders. Sprinters get boxed out all the time, I don’t hear any complaining about that. Fuck, Cav tried to headbutt Gerrans out of the way in the 1st stage of the Tdf precisely because he was boxed out. I think that’s worse. I didn’t hear anyone say they’d lost all respect for Cav.

    I’ve said it before: it’s a race, not a fucking picnic ride.

  44. @KW

    I’ve said it before: it’s a race, not a fucking picnic ride.

    Oh shit, going down the rabbit hole here.  Oh well, where are the pills, Alice?

    “Within the rules” and “doing what is right and honourable” are two different things.  I have raced bikes, skis, running races, and fought martial art tournaments all over the world.  These are obviously all just sport.  In sport one would hope that there is somthing akin to trying to do the right thing, not just winning at the limits of the rules.  This is a great example of something that I will show my kids and say, “See this, that is how you might win the day but lose your integrity and self respect in the process.  This is what you should not do.”    

    I have also been in firefights and our montra was “If you ever find yourself in a fair firefight, you have done something wrong.”  To quote the great Vizzini, it is a different story when death is on the line.

    That is why sport is great, in the end it is only sport, but it is also a chance where one can try to show their true self in the sporting process.  I would prefer to lose gracefully than win without honour. One would hope that this example of unsport(wo)manship would rub one wrong, within the rules or not.  At least, I hope it would anyone that I have raised. 

    Now where’s that pill to make me smaller.

  45. @Buck Rogers

    @KW

    I’ve said it before: it’s a race, not a fucking picnic ride.

    Oh shit, going down the rabbit hole here. Oh well, where are the pills, Alice?

    “Within the rules” and “doing what is right and honourable” are two different things. I have raced bikes, skis, running races, and fought martial art tournaments all over the world. These are obviously all just sport. In sport one would hope that there is somthing akin to trying to do the right thing, not just winning at the limits of the rules. This is a great example of something that I will show my kids and say, “See this, that is how you might win the day but lose your integrity and self respect in the process. This is what you should not do.”

    I have also been in firefights and our montra was “If you ever find yourself in a fair firefight, you have done something wrong.” To quote the great Vizzini, it is a different story when death is on the line.

    That is why sport is great, in the end it is only sport, but it is also a chance where one can try to show their true self in the sporting process. I would prefer to lose gracefully than win without honour. One would hope that this example of unsport(wo)manship would rub one wrong, within the rules or not. At least, I hope it would anyone that I have raised.

    Now where’s that pill to make me smaller.

    I appreciate your point of view. We see the situation differently. That’s another thing that makes sport great. The ability to compete and have differing opinions without having to hate your opponent (not that we’re opponents here).

    And if I could be a pedant for just a moment, the Vizzini quote is :  “Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!”

  46. @ChrisO

    It wasn’t pretty, and it may not adhere to the highest Corinthian ideals of sport, but I don’t think it was wrong to the extent that it was against the rules or could be called cheating.

    Boxing riders in is a valid tactic – the only problem would be if it was putting anybody in danger but there was no physical contact and Abbot wasn’t looking like she was going to fall or be pushed.

    A really strong, fast attack would have got past them. If she couldn’t do that then tough. But I think that’s why you don’t see it in the men’s racing. First because a GC contender can attack fast enough to get side by side before they can be blocked and second because in men’s racing you would never have a situation on a crucial stage where one team had three riders in a break of four, and all of them aiming for the podium. If you did I would expect they’d try the same.

    Agreed. It’s aggressive and it’s hard racing. We don’t know what was being said at the moment from either rider. Not a problem.

  47. @Fins

    To me the bigger problem here is that one team could be in that situation – 3 riders up the road and top 3 on GC. It seems like Rabo is funded on a level that most of these other teams can only dream of. If women’s cycling is going to progress there needs to be more competition.

    Totally.

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