The Bikes

The Bike. It is the central tool in pursuit of our craft. A Velominatus meticulously maintains their bicycles and adorns them with the essential, yet minimal, accoutrement. The Rules specify the principles of good taste in configuration and setup of our machines, but within those principles lies almost infinite room for personal taste.

It seems in some ways like a kind of Stockholm Syndrome, the way we honor our machines. We love them to a point that lies well beyond obsession. Upon these machines upon we endure endless suffering, but also find an unending pleasure. The rhythm, the harmony between rider and machine, the outdoors, the wind in our faces and air in our lungs.

The Bikes is devoted entirely to our machines. Ours, The Keepers, and yours, the Community. It features articles devoted to our bikes, and proves a forum for uploading photos of your own machines for discussion. We will be harsh, but fair; this is a place to enforce and enhance our observation of The Rules.

If you’d like to submit an article about your own beloved bike, please feel free to send it to us and we’ll do our best to work with you to include it.

  • Rule #12 and the Cascade EffectRule #12 and the Cascade Effect
    That is a very reasonable opening salvo for the Rule about bike ownership. Three is good and certainly a minimum, and we are talking road bikes here, if there was any doubt. They naturally become ordered: the #1 is ichi-ban, top dog, go-to bike for every and all rides. #2 was the old #1, ...
  • Guest Article: Black Is Not The New BlackGuest Article: Black Is Not The New Black
     @kogalover is singing my song here. Bikes are beautiful. ’nuff said. VLVV, Gianni With all those posts on riding in winter and being visible, either by putting Eyes of Sauron or other car melting devices on one’s steed, or by even considering a YJA instead of donning plain black kit, it was about time to finally get ...
  • Dialing in the StableDialing in the Stable
    This was going to be an article about Rule #45. It is amazing how much time is wasted and matches burned when professionals stop for that second bike change to get back on their #1. With all the jigs available to team mechanics it would seem they could set up five bikes exactly the same. And ...
  • Matching the drapes to the rugMatching the drapes to the rug
    As a longtime titanium bike owner, I’ve always been jealous of a beautiful painted frame but Ti and carbon frames don’t need paint like a steel frame needs paint. But I want some painted beauty. It’s like buying a white car; I can’t do white, need some color. So between a Ti frame and a ...
  • Festum Prophetae: Waiting for the HourFestum Prophetae: Waiting for the Hour
    Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. – Mike Tyson The one thing everyone should always plan for is that however well-conceived a program might be, things will never go to plan. The high level plan for my Festum Prophetae Hour Ride was as follows: Have a custom Hour Bike built by Don Walker. Because reasons. Reasons like custom ...

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  1. @andrew Yeah they’re Campagnolo (“braze on adapters/down tube sti stops” – or whatever you might want to call ’em).

    I’ve got the Shimano equivalent on N2 (another Italian job not finished yet) – I think the Shimano version are slightly better quality, have had a little trouble with campag cable adjustment nut being difficult to adjust/slipping a liitle in use

  2. @Dan_R

    I’m looking for a new ride now and the Bond is on my shortlist.  Any more feedback you can give about it?  Have you ridden an RB800 and if so, how does it compare?

    Would love to hear more about it — it’s a stunner with very little writing about it on the internets.

  3. @cantona

    @Dan_R

    I’m looking for a new ride now and the Bond is on my shortlist. Any more feedback you can give about it? Have you ridden an RB800 and if so, how does it compare?

    Would love to hear more about it “” it’s a stunner with very little writing about it on the internets.

    Cipo is willing to share his secrets with faithful enthusiasts, although the secret to his flowing locks is still shrouded in mystery.

  4. @Tobin

    @cantona

    @Dan_R

    I’m looking for a new ride now and the Bond is on my shortlist. Any more feedback you can give about it? Have you ridden an RB800 and if so, how does it compare?

    Would love to hear more about it “” it’s a stunner with very little writing about it on the internets.

    Cipo is willing to share his secrets with faithful enthusiasts, although the secret to his flowing locks is still shrouded in mystery.

    Drugs, lots of drugs.

  5. @Dan_R Thanks for that input regarding the length of my cable from frame to rear brake.  You got it absolutely bang on.  Working sweet as a nut now my friend, thanks doesn’t quite cover it but it’s all I’ve got – THANKS!

  6. @snoov my pleasure. Good to hear it worked out for you.

    @cantona Took the Bond out for the shop ride this morning (but I was properly in a merino wool jersey in honour of The Prophet) and she handled beautifully. The RB1K and RB800 are pure race machines, while the Bond softens up the geometry just a touch. And descents? Seat on fire. The RB1K & 800 sport integrated masts which are super stiff, but can make traveling a bit difficult if the team ain’t carrying it for you. There is a conversion post available though. Our RB1K is an XL, so I can’t stand over the top tube. The Bond is demo ride equipped with Miche Supertype, DA7900, TRP brakes, and a mix of cockpit parts. And yes, the SMP Dynamic test saddle with the thingy hanging down. The RB1K is somewhat similarly kitted out.

  7. @Dinan

    @Tobin

    @Dinan I always felt like I was “torquing” my DT’s too much and making them too tight. I have always used traditional quick release skewers so the tightening method of the DT’s just seemed odd. That being said, they were very effective and I never had any problems at all. With the DA I knew just from feel and familiarity of the system that they were engaged and tight. If cost wasn’t an issue I would probably go with the DA only out of personal preference, not because of performance. Regarding the weight difference, I am no help here as I am just under 5 10 and weigh 225lb’s. I need to worry more about shedding lb’s off my own frame rather than 20 gram’s off my bike. I can tell you that the DT’s performed well under the stress of my weight and the only reason they broke was due to a mishap in the garage and not on the road (my 10 year old hammered into the skewer with his bmx). I think if you are not set on any certain format you will be happy with the DT’s and they will work well for you.

    Update on this for anyone that was interested.

    I ended up ordering both the DA skewers as well as the DT skewers. I am in need of new skewers on both the bike I currently ride and the one I am building. I will try them both and report back with what I find.

    -Dinan

    As a follow up to this, I wanted to report back.

    I have been running both the DA QR’s as well as the DT QR’s on my carbon S-Works RBX. Alternating between them on similar rides.

    The weight loss is minimal with the DT’s but I do like the ‘ratcheting’ style system that the DT’s work on. I feel like the wheel is truly secure with that system. I also notice (could be my imagination) that there may be a slight bit more road noise with the DT QR’s as opposed to the DA’s? I am not sure if this is purely me or somehow related to the stiffness of the Ti transferring through the bike while I ride.

    Both QR’s are very good and I could easily recommend either to any rider. For me, the DT’s are staying on the S-Works and the DA’s are headed to the Crux.

    -Dinan

  8. @Dan_R

    we have a cipollini store in Toronto now. I believe the web site is B1group

    Does your store sell them?  Ship them?

  9. So 1984 Pinarello Pista “olympic” Track bike, thinking of n+1, very good condition don’t know much about them, any thoughts would be appreciated. G.

  10. @Mikael Liddy

    Many thanks, my daughter and husband live in Glenalta, she rides Bianchi, he rides BMC, great place to ride. Have seen the TDU a couple of times and hope to be back in 2014.

  11. @piwakawaka

    So 1984 Pinarello Pista “olympic” Track bike, thinking of n+1, very good condition don’t know much about them, any thoughts would be appreciated. G.

    First thought: do it! Beautiful.

    Second: needs a proper track stem, but you’ll never find one with the matching panto. (There’s a guy who does milling, drilling and painting though…)

    Third: wish it was my size.

  12. @sanspareil

    @Mikael Liddy

    Many thanks, my daughter and husband live in Glenalta, she rides Bianchi, he rides BMC, great place to ride. Have seen the TDU a couple of times and hope to be back in 2014.

    If you are, we’ll likely run another Cogal on the weekend beforehand (or perhaps a week long one to watch the stages).

  13. @pistard

    @piwakawaka

    So 1984 Pinarello Pista “olympic” Track bike, thinking of n+1, very good condition don’t know much about them, any thoughts would be appreciated. G.

    First thought: do it! Beautiful.

    Second: needs a proper track stem, but you’ll never find one with the matching panto. (There’s a guy who does milling, drilling and painting though…)

    Third: wish it was my size.

    That thing’s beautiful. Do it now if you haven’t already, it looks immaculate. Might want modern pedals and maybe crank if it’s a funky bcd but that thing is grouse.

  14. If you do this to it though, I’ll hunt you down. Crimes against bikes that should be punished with castration by stem collision.

  15. @sanspareil They’re beauts! 

    I’m intrigued by the Holdsworth – what age is that? Looks like you’ve personalised/upgraded just about everything, I love it. 

    Also, I’m impressed how you managed to co-ordinate the colour of the building in the background to the colour of the bike!

  16. @sanspareil

    The ‘other’ love of my life………

    That is a beauty! Wow! In classic orange, white and blue too! My first real road bike was a big-ass red Holdsworth. It never, ever looked as good as that!

  17. @sanspareil

    Time trial in Wellington, trick bike and trick kit they said……..

    Is your eyewear hanging from your neck? i do like the bike and kit.

  18. @minion

    @pistard

    @piwakawaka

    So 1984 Pinarello Pista “olympic” Track bike, thinking of n+1, very good condition don’t know much about them, any thoughts would be appreciated. G.

    First thought: do it! Beautiful.

    Second: needs a proper track stem, but you’ll never find one with the matching panto. (There’s a guy who does milling, drilling and painting though…)

    Third: wish it was my size.

    That thing’s beautiful. Do it now if you haven’t already, it looks immaculate. Might want modern pedals and maybe crank if it’s a funky bcd but that thing is grouse.

    You don’t fancy something more contemporary?Understated,as ever, from Mario… too many drugz

  19. @Cantona B1 Group is the distributor for Canada. I just have the Bond and the RB1K as demo bikes for now. The supply chain (read: delivery) on Cipos can be tardy, but I can sell to anyone I want to. As a newer shop this is partly an experiment too. They ride well and are beautiful.

    The B1 concept shop is nice, but I hear they do not hold a lot of stock.

  20. @wiscot

    @sanspareil

    The ‘other’ love of my life………

    That is a beauty! Wow! In classic orange, white and blue too! My first real road bike was a big-ass red Holdsworth. It never, ever looked as good as that!

    This is my first road bike, I think it says alot. Got into cycling in the 90s, aluminium not steel, started on STI not downtube shifters, thought getting smashed to shit by a bike was the norm. Jan Ullrich was my gateway drug into pro cycling, Lance was the antichrist given how awesome I thought Ulle was. Didn’t know what tubulars were for years.

  21. @minion

    @wiscot

    @sanspareil

    The ‘other’ love of my life………

    That is a beauty! Wow! In classic orange, white and blue too! My first real road bike was a big-ass red Holdsworth. It never, ever looked as good as that!

    This is my first road bike, I think it says alot. Got into cycling in the 90s, aluminium not steel, started on STI not downtube shifters, thought getting smashed to shit by a bike was the norm. Jan Ullrich was my gateway drug into pro cycling, Lance was the antichrist given how awesome I thought Ulle was. Didn’t know what tubulars were for years.

    You took this picture before you knew any better right?

  22. Thats not my bike but it’s identical to the one I had – but yeah I probably committed a lot of the same sins. Deep, heavy al rims with a superstiff al frame make for a great ride when you don’t know any better. The best thing was the paint job that went from dark green to greeny purple as you moved past it.

  23. @minion

    Thats not my bike but it’s identical to the one I had – but yeah I probably committed a lot of the same sins. Deep, heavy al rims with a superstiff al frame make for a great ride when you don’t know any better. The best thing was the paint job that went from dark green to greeny purple as you moved past it.

    Aren’t these the bikes that Mavic have on the roof of the neutral service car? They use toe straps as well…

  24. @minion Chromalusion purpleen, yum, I still ride my Dale MTB in that colour when I have to entertain the kids on some singletrack

  25. @minion

    @wiscot

    @sanspareil

    The ‘other’ love of my life………

    That is a beauty! Wow! In classic orange, white and blue too! My first real road bike was a big-ass red Holdsworth. It never, ever looked as good as that!

    This is my first road bike, I think it says alot. Got into cycling in the 90s, aluminium not steel, started on STI not downtube shifters, thought getting smashed to shit by a bike was the norm. Jan Ullrich was my gateway drug into pro cycling, Lance was the antichrist given how awesome I thought Ulle was. Didn’t know what tubulars were for years.

    Those rigs were like riding a tuning fork or a chunk of railroad track. Climbed like a raped ape tho, soooo stiff at the time. The shop where I cut my teeth as a wrench sold those and Bianchi. And a short stint with Softride.

  26. @scaler911 Yep, that sounds familiar – mine was also too big, with too long cranks. I swung a leg over a CAAD10 recently though, and the difference is pretty impressive, I struggled to believe it was an Al frame.

    @ped Nice! I’d never have remembered that since I never knew that was its name in the first place! There was a Porsche 911 around Wellington at the time with the same paint job.

  27. @sthilzy

    @Spun Up If you’re going for a genuine 70″²s/80″²s vintage steel frame, I’d being thinking about what country of origin and what group set would be fitted. Like a Colnago with Suntour components is wrong. There’s also lost over time groups sets that were around that era. Galli, Zeus, Huret that would suit frame of origin.

    Also know your steel frame makers markings mainly fork crown, BB, lugs. Like Colnago’s ‘club’ logo, Olmo star logo, Tommasini T, etc. There’s a lot of reproduction decals now available and some repainted, redecaled frames appear and to the untrained eye, make the purchase of a mock up.

    More important is what kit would you be wearing while out on ride with steel steed.

    Did I hear someone say Tommasini? Ahem, I think I know someone who owns one of those…

    Mine has the crazy Columbus Multi-Shaped tubeset. It’s bonkers, round, oval, hexagonal. Really nuts, a cool bike to own and a real joy to ride. It’s my special day/perfect weather bike. The T’s are really nice too. Mine has some on the rear brake bridge, the fork, the DT lug behind the headtube and a bunch of other places as well. The detail is amazing.

    Oh, since I’m on the subject — anyone want to trade a Cinelli XA stem in 110mm for a 90mm Cinelli XA? That’s what I have on there and I’ve realized I want some more reach.

    I also have a Casati with Columbus Genius “differential shape butted” tubing. It might be an even nicer ride than the MS tubing. It is fillet brazed and lugless, with the only visible lug being the BB.

    And then I have a De Bernardi with Columbus Thron tubing. Lugged and double butted. Since it’s clearly the lowest tubeset of the three, it is my winter/rain bike. Take that, Thron! Still a nice ride.

    I enjoy riding steel bikes and all of them feel a bit different under me, but they also have different wheelsets and set-ups, so that plays a factor. One thing I love about steel – it never, ever creaks. My carbon and Al bikes violate the Silence Principle somedays, those bastards.

  28. This might sound stupid but here goes…

    I’ve always tried to get my cycling shoes very, very snug. Perfect size, a bit thicker sock because I have very narrow feet, and I snug them down pretty tight. Then I got to thinking that maybe one reason I sometimes have sore or numb feet is because my feet can’t move at all. Four hours in a foot binding session, no shite your feet go numb.

    I’m thinking the key is to have them snug but you also want them to move around a bit. I guess I’ve been taking the soccer cleat approach to cycling shoes. And when racing, yeah, you want your shoes snug, but I guess on training rides it’s good to have a bit of wiggle room, huh?

  29. @Ron

    Yeah, mate – dead on. Most shoes are built like tubes, and really the only way to get your feet stable is to lock them down. Bont is the only shoe I know of that designs their shoe to hold your foot really firmly without needing to snug it down. Its strange at first, but after you get used to it (it took me about two weeks) you realize how well it works. My feet are never numb, and the shoes hold my feet perfectly.

    @Scaler and @G’rilla couldn’t believe I wore my Bonts all the way home from the Hour – in the grocery store and everything. I had forgotten my sandals and just wore them around and didn’t care because they’re so fuckin’ comfy.

    http://www.velominati.com/technology/bont-vaypor-and-vaypor-xc/

  30. Shopping in your Bonts. “It’s not like I just crushed it for an hour or anything…Yeah, that’s right, I wear my cycling shoes shopping. Gotta problem with that?” Nice. I’ll make grocery stops often at the end of rides, always get funny looks from the tapping shoes, as folks think I’m wearing high heels. Or it could be the Lycra.

    Frank, you’re not helping out. I’d LOVE to try Bonts and I’ve been putting up with Sidi Ergo2s hurting my feet for something like two years now. I can’t decide if I should shell out for insoles or pick up some Bonts. Insoles = $50, some Bonts on the ‘bay for around $100. My silver Ergo 2s look great but they have been a major pain in my arse, er feet.

    I have the “anatomic” style soccer cleats and after some getting used to I really like them.

  31. This device attaches to things you think you might lose and need to find again, such as keys, wallets, bikes.

    Bikes?

    How do you just lose an entire bike around the house? If that’s your problem, maybe you should attach one to your spouse, children, or pet, too. Or your beer.

    http://www.thetileapp.com/

  32. @Ron I’ve taken to riding with my shoes pretty loose but still get numb toes, after thinking the same way as you.  I’m gonna try a new set of footbeds as the ones that came with the shoes have a bit that feels like there’s a lump under my foot kind of beside the ball.  I’ll let you know how I get on.

  33. Unrelated, I’m watching Kiera Knightley kiss some guy on the sidewalk in front of my window.

    Literally. It’s 1am and they’re filming a movie on my street.

  34. @snoov

    @Ron I’ve taken to riding with my shoes pretty loose but still get numb toes, after thinking the same way as you. I’m gonna try a new set of footbeds as the ones that came with the shoes have a bit that feels like there’s a lump under my foot kind of beside the ball. I’ll let you know how I get on.

    That sounds like the specialized metatarsal button. Meant to enhance comfort but it does feel odd at first.

  35. @G’rilla

    Unrelated, I’m watching Kiera Knightley kiss some guy on the sidewalk in front of my window.

    Literally. It’s 1am and they’re filming a movie on my street.

    Hang the Keepers Tour flag in the back ground!!!

  36. @G’rilla

    Unrelated, I’m watching Kiera Knightley kiss some guy on the sidewalk in front of my window.

    Literally. It’s 1am and they’re filming a movie on my street.

    Yeah, that happens to me all the time.

    wait, you’re asleep, right?

  37. @G’rilla

    Unrelated, I’m watching Kiera Knightley kiss some guy on the sidewalk in front of my window.

    Literally. It’s 1am and they’re filming a movie on my street.

    Co-starring G’rilla as Peeping Tom…

  38. @G’rilla

    This device attaches to things you think you might lose and need to find again, such as keys, wallets, bikes.

    Bikes?

    How do you just lose an entire bike around the house? If that’s your problem, maybe you should attach one to your spouse, children, or pet, too. Or your beer.

    http://www.thetileapp.com/

    No!  Kids are very easily lost!

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