The Rules

We are the Keepers of the Cog. In so being, we also maintain the sacred text wherein lie the simple truths of cycling etiquette known as The Rules. It is in our trust to maintain and endorse this list.

The Rules lie at the beginning of The Path to La Vie Velominatus, not at the end; learning to balance them against one another and to welcome them all into your life as a Velominatus is a never-ending struggle waged between form and function as we continue along The Path towards transcension.

See also The Prophet’s Prayer.

  1. // Obey The Rules.
  2. // Lead by example.It is forbidden for someone familiar with The Rules to knowingly assist another person to breach them.1
  3. // Guide the uninitiated.No matter how good you think your reason is to knowingly breach The Rules, it is never good enough.
  4. // It’s all about the bike. It is, absolutely, without question, unequivocally, about the bike. Anyone who says otherwise is obviously a twatwaffle.
  5. // Harden The Fuck Up. 2,20
  6. // Free your mind and your legs will follow.Your mind is your worst enemy. Do all your thinking before you start riding your bike.  Once the pedals start to turn, wrap yourself in the sensations of the ride – the smell of the air, the sound of the tires, the feeling of flight as the bicycle rolls over the road.
  7. // Tan lines should be cultivated and kept razor sharp.Under no circumstances should one be rolling up their sleeves or shorts in an effort to somehow diminish one’s tan lines. Sleeveless jerseys are under no circumstances to be employed.
  8. // Saddles, bars, and tires shall be carefully matched.3Valid options are:

    Match the saddle to the bars and the tires to black; or

    Match the bars to the color of the frame at the top of the head tube and the saddle to the color of the frame at the top of the seat tube and the tires to the color where they come closest to the frame; or

    Match the saddle and the bars to the frame decals; or

    Black, black, black

  9. // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.Fair-weather riding is a luxury reserved for Sunday afternoons and wide boulevards. Those who ride in foul weather – be it cold, wet, or inordinately hot – are members of a special club of riders who, on the morning of a big ride, pull back the curtain to check the weather and, upon seeing rain falling from the skies, allow a wry smile to spread across their face. This is a rider who loves the work.
  10. // It never gets easier, you just go faster.As this famous quote by Greg LeMan tells us, training, climbing, and racing is hard. It stays hard. To put it another way, per Greg Henderson: “Training is like fighting with a gorilla. You don’t stop when you’re tired. You stop when the gorilla is tired.” Sur la Plaque, fucktards.4
  11. // Family does not come first. The bike does.Sean Kelly, being interviewed after the ’84 Amstel Gold Race, spots his wife leaning against his Citroën AX. He interrupts the interview to tell her to get off the paintwork, to which she shrugs, “In your life the car comes first, then the bike, then me.” Instinctively, he snaps back, “You got the order wrong. The bike comes first.”21
  12. // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.While the minimum number of bikes one should own is three, the correct number is n+1, where n is the number of bikes currently owned. This equation may also be re-written as s-1, where s is the number of bikes owned that would result in separation from your partner.
  13. // If you draw race number 13, turn it upside down.Paradoxically, the same mind that holds such control over the body is also woefully fragile and prone to superstitious thought. It fills easily with doubt and is distracted by ancillary details. This is why the tape must always be perfect, the machine silent, the kit spotless. And, if you draw the unlucky Number 13, turn it upside down to counter-act its negative energy.
  14. // Shorts should be black.Team-issue shorts should be black, with the possible exception of side-panels, which may match the rest of the team kit.
  15. // Black shorts should also be worn with leader’s jerseys.Black shorts, or at least standard team-kit shorts, must be worn with Championship jerseys and race leadership jerseys. Don’t over-match your kit, or accept that you will look like a douche.
  16. // Respect the jersey.Championship and race leader jerseys must only be worn if you’ve won the championship or led the race.
  17. // Team kit is for members of the team.Wearing Pro team kit is also questionable if you’re not paid to wear it.  If you must fly the colors of Pro teams, all garments should match perfectly, i.e no Mapei jersey with Kelme shorts and Telekom socks.
  18. // Know what to wear. Don’t suffer kit confusion.No baggy shorts and jerseys while riding the road bike. No lycra when riding the mountain bike (unless racing XC). Skin suits only for cyclocross.
  19. // Introduce Yourself.If you deem it appropriate to join a group of riders who are not part of an open group ride and who are not your mates, it is customary and courteous to announce your presence. Introduce yourself and ask if you may join the group. If you have been passed by a group, wait for an invitation, introduce yourself, or let them go. The silent joiner is viewed as ill-mannered and Anti-V. Conversely, the joiner who can’t shut their cakehole is no better and should be dropped from the group at first opportunity.
  20. // There are only three remedies for pain.These are:

    If your quads start to burn, shift forward to use your hamstrings and calves, or

    If your calves or hamstrings start to burn, shift back to use your quads, or

    If you feel wimpy and weak, meditate on  Rule #5 and train more!

  21. // Cold weather gear is for cold weather.Knickers, vests, arm warmers, shoe covers, and caps beneath your helmet can all make you look like a hardman, when the weather warrants their use. If it isn’t wet or cold, save your Flandrian Best for Flemish weather.
  22. // Cycling caps are for cycling.Cycling caps can be worn under helmets, but never when not riding, no matter how hip you think you look. This will render one a douche, and should result in public berating or beating. The only time it is acceptable to wear a cycling cap is while directly engaged in cycling activities and while clad in cycling kit. This includes activities taking place prior to and immediately after the ride such as machine tuning and tire pumping.  Also included are cafe appearances for pre-ride espressi and post-ride pub appearances for body-refueling ales (provided said pub has sunny, outdoor patio – do not stray inside a pub wearing kit or risk being ceremoniously beaten by leather-clad biker chicks).   Under these conditions, having your cap skull-side tipped jauntily at a rakish angle is, one might say, de rigueur. All good things must be taken in measure, however, and as such it is critical that we let sanity and good taste prevail: as long as the first sip of the relevant caffeine or hop-based beverage is taken whilst beads of sweat, snow, or rain are still evident on one’s brow then it is legitimate for the cap to be worn. However, once all that remains in the cranial furrows is salt, it is then time to shower, throw on some suitable aprés-ride attire (a woollen Molteni Arcore training top circa ’73 comes to mind) and return to the bar, folded copy of pastel-coloured news publication in hand, ready for formal fluid replacement. It is also helpful if you are a Giant of the Road, as demonstrated here, rather than a giant douchebag. 5
  23. // Tuck only after reaching Escape Velocity.You may only employ the aerodynamic tuck after you have spun out your 53 x 11; the tuck is to be engaged only when your legs can no longer keep up. Your legs make you go fast, and trying to keep your fat ass out of the wind only serves to keep you from slowing down once you reach escape velocity. Thus, the tuck is only to be employed to prevent you slowing down when your legs have wrung the top end out of your block. Tucking prematurely while descending is the antithesis of Casually Deliberate. For more on riding fast downhill see Rule #64 and Rule #85.
  24. // Speeds and distances shall be referred to and measured in kilometers. This includes while discussing cycling in the workplace with your non-cycling coworkers, serving to further mystify our sport in the web of their Neanderthalic cognitive capabilities. As the confused expression spreads across their unibrowed faces, casually mention your shaved legs. All of cycling’s monuments are measured in the metric system and as such the English system is forbidden.
  25. // The bikes on top of your car should be worth more than the car. Or at least be relatively more expensive.  Basically, if you’re putting your Huffy on your Rolls, you’re in trouble, mister. Remember what Sean said.
  26. // Make your bike photogenic.When photographing your bike, gussy her up properly for the camera. Some parameters are firm: valve stems at 6 o’clock. Cranks never at 90 or 180 degrees. Others are at your discretion, though the accepted practices include putting the chain on the big dog, and no bidons in the cages.
  27. // Shorts and socks should be like Goldilocks.Not too long and not too short. (Disclaimer: despite Sean Yates’ horrible choice in shorts length, he is a quintessential hard man of cycling and is deeply admired by the Velominati. Whereas Armstrong’s short and sock lengths are just plain wrong.) No socks is a no-no, as are those ankle-length ones that should only be worn by female tennis players.
  28. // Socks can be any damn colour you like.White is old school cool. Black is cool too, but were given a bad image by a Texan whose were too long.  If you feel you must go colored, make sure they damn well match your kit. Tip: DeFeet Wool-E-Ators rule.
  29. // No European Posterior Man-Satchels.Saddle bags have no place on a road bike, and are only acceptable on mountain bikes in extreme cases.
  30. // No frame-mounted pumps.Either Co2 cannisters or mini-pumps should be carried in jersey pockets (See Rule #31). The only exception to this rule is to mount a Silca brand frame pump in the rear triangle of the frame, with the rear wheel skewer as the pump mount nob, as demonstrated by members of the 7-Eleven and Ariostea pro cycling teams. As such, a frame pump mounted upside-down and along the left (skewer lever side) seat stay is both old skool and Euro and thus acceptable. We restate at this time that said pump may under no circumstances be a Zefal and must be made by Silca. Said Silca pump must be fitted with a Campagnolo head. It is acceptable to gaffer-tape a mini-pump to your frame when no C02 cannisters are available and your pockets are full of spare kit and energy gels. However, the rider should expect to be stopped and questioned and may be required to empty pockets to prove there is no room in them for the pump.
  31. // Spare tubes, multi-tools and repair kits should be stored in jersey pockets.If absolutely necessary, in a converted bidon in a cage on bike. Or, use one of these.
  32. // Humps are for camels: no hydration packs.Hydration packs are never to be seen on a road rider’s body. No argument will be entered into on this. For MTB, they are cool.
  33. // Shave your guns.Legs are to be carefully shaved at all times. If, for some reason, your legs are to be left hairy, make sure you can dish out plenty of hurt to shaved riders, or be considered a hippie douche on your way to a Critical Mass. Whether you use a straight razor or a Bowie knife, use Baxter to keep them smooth.
  34. // Mountain bike shoes and pedals have their place.On a mountain bike.
  35. // No visors on the road.Road helmets can be worn on mountain bikes, but never the other way around. If you want shade, see Rule #22.
  36. // Eyewear shall be cycling specific.No Aviator shades, blueblockers, or clip-on covers for eye glasses.
  37. // The arms of the eyewear shall always be placed over the helmet straps.No exceptions. This is for various reasons that may or may not matter; it’s just the way it is.
  38. // Don’t Play Leap Frog.Train Properly: if you get passed by someone, it is nothing personal, just accept that on the day/effort/ride they were stronger than you. If you can’t deal, work harder. But don’t go playing leap frog to get in front only to be taken over again (multiple times) because you can’t keep up the pace. Especially don’t do this just because the person overtaking you is a woman. Seriously. Get over it.
  39. // Never ride without your eyewear.You should not make a habit of riding without eyewear, although approved extenuating circumstances include fog, overheating, and lighting condition. When not worn over the eyes, they should be neatly tucked into the vents of your helmet.  If they don’t fit, buy a new helmet. In the meantime you can wear them backwards on the back of your head or carefully tuck them into your jersey pocket, making sure not to scratch them on your tools (see item 31).
  40. // Tires are to be mounted with the label centered over the valve stem.Pro mechanics do it because it makes it easier to find the valve. You do this because that’s the way pro mechanics do it. This will save you precious seconds while your fat ass sits on the roadside fumbling with your CO2 after a flat. It also looks better for photo opportunities. Note: This obviously only applies to clinchers as tubulars don’t give you a choice.
  41. // Quick-release levers are to be carefully positioned.Quick release angle on the front skewer shall be an upward angle which tightens just aft of the fork and the rear quick release shall tighten at an angle that bisects angle between the seat and chain stays. It is acceptable, however, to have the rear quick release tighten upward, just aft of the seat stay, when the construction of the frame or its dropouts will not allow the preferred positioning. For Time Trial bikes only, quick releases may be in the horizontal position facing towards the rear of the bike. This is for maximum aero effect.9
  42. // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.If it’s preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run, it is not called a bike race, it is called duathlon or a triathlon. Neither of which is a bike race. Also keep in mind that one should only swim in order to prevent drowning, and should only run if being chased. And even then, one should only run fast enough to prevent capture.
  43. // Don’t be a jackass.But if you absolutely must be a jackass, be a funny jackass. Always remember, we’re all brothers and sisters on the road.
  44. // Position matters.In order to find the V-Locus, a rider’s handlebars on their road bike must always be lower than their saddle. The only exception to this is if you’re revolutionizing the sport, in which case you must also be prepared to break the World Hour Record. The minimum allowable tolerance is 4cm; there is no maximum, but people may berate you if they feel you have them too low.
  45. // Slam your stem.A maximum stack height of 2cm is allowed below the stem and a single 5mm spacer must always – always – be stacked above. A “slammed down” stack height is preferable; meaning that the stem is positioned directly on the top race of the headset.
  46. // Keep your bars level.Handlebars will be mounted parallel to the ground or angled slightly upward. While they may never be pointed down at all, they may be angled up slightly; allowed handlebar tilt is to be between 180 and 175 degrees with respect to the level road. The brake levers will preferably be mounted such that the end of the brake lever is even with the bottom of the bar.  Modern bars, however, dictate that this may not always be possible, so tolerances are permitted within reason. Brake hoods should not approach anything near 45 degrees, as some riders with poor taste have been insisting on doing.
  47. // Drink Tripels, don’t ride triples.Cycling and beer are so intertwined we may never understand the full relationship. Beer is a recovery drink, an elixir for post-ride trash talking and a just plain excellent thing to pour down the neck. We train to drink so don’t fool around. Drink quality beer from real breweries. If it is brewed with rice instead of malted barley or requires a lime, you are off the path. Know your bittering units like you know your gear length. Life is short, don’t waste it on piss beer.
  48. // Saddles must be level and pushed back.The seating area of a saddle is to be visually level, with the base measurement made using a spirit level. Based on subtleties of saddle design and requirements of comfort, the saddle may then be pitched slightly forward or backward to reach a position that offers stability, power, and comfort. If the tilt of the saddle exceeds two degrees, you need to go get one of those saddles with springs and a thick gel pad because you are obviously a big pussy. The midpoint of the saddle as measured from tip to tail shall fall well behind and may not be positioned forward of the line made by extending the seat tube through the top of the saddle. (Also see Rule #44.)
  49. // Keep the rubber side down.It is completely unacceptable to intentionally turn one’s steed upside down for any reason under any circumstances. Besides the risk of scratching the saddle, levers and stem, it is unprofessional and a disgrace to your loyal steed. The risk of the bike falling over is increased, wheel removal/replacement is made more difficult and your bidons will leak. The only reason a bicycle should ever be in an upside down position is during mid-rotation while crashing. This Rule also applies to upside down saddle-mount roof bars.23
  50. // Facial hair is to be carefully regulated.No full beards, no moustaches. Goatees are permitted only if your name starts with “Marco” and ends with “Pantani”, or if your head is intentionally or unintentionally bald. One may never shave on the morning of an important race, as it saps your virility, and you need that to kick ass.
  51. // Livestrong wristbands are cockrings for your arms.While we hate cancer, isn’t it better to just donate some money and not have to advertise the fact for the next five years? You may as well get “tryhard wanker” tattooed on your forehead. Or you may well be a bogan.
  52. // Drink in Moderation.Bidons are to be small in size. 500-610ml maximum, no extra large vessels are to be seen on one’s machine. Two cages can be mounted, but only one bidon on rides under two hours is to be employed. Said solo bidon must be placed in the downtube cage only. You may only ride with a bidon in the rear cage if you have a front bidon, or you just handed your front bidon to a fan at the roadside and you are too busy crushing everyone to move it forward until you take your next drink. Bidons should match each other and preferably your bike and/or kit. The obvious exception is the classic Coca-Cola bidon which by default matches any bike and/or kit due to its heritage. Coca-Cola should only be consumed flat and near the end of a long ride or all-day solo breakaway on the roads of France.
  53. // Keep your kit clean and new.As a courtesy to those around you, your kit should always be freshly laundered, and, under no circumstances should the crackal region of your shorts be worn out or see-through.
  54. // No aerobars on road bikes.Aerobars or other clip-on attachments are under no circumstances to be employed on your road bike. The only exception to this is if you are competing in a mountain timetrial.
  55. // Earn your turns.If you are riding down a mountain, you must first have ridden up the mountain. It is forbidden to employ powered transportation simply for the cheap thrill of descending. The only exception to this is if you are doing intervals on Alpe d’Huez or the Plan de Corones and you park your car up top before doing 20 repeats of the climb.
  56. // Espresso or macchiato only.When wearing cycling kit and enjoying a pre or post ride coffee, it is only appropriate to drink espresso or macchiato. If the word soy/skim latte is heard to be used by a member wearing cycling apparel, then that person must be ceremonially beaten with Co2 canisters or mini pumps by others within the community.6
  57. // No stickers.Nobody gives a shit what causes you support, what war you’re against, what gear you buy, or what year you rode RAGBRAI.  See Rule #5 and ride your bike. Decals, on the other hand, are not only permissible, but extremely Pro.
  58. // Support your local bike shop.Never buy bikes, parts or accessories online. Going into your local shop, asking myriad inane questions, tying up the staff’s time, then going online to buy is akin to sleeping with your best friend’s wife, then having a beer with him after. If you do purchase parts online, be prepared to mount and maintain them yourself. If you enter a shop with parts you have bought online and expect them to fit them, be prepared to be told to see your online seller for fitting and warranty help.
  59. // Hold your line.Ride predictably, and don’t make sudden movements. And, under no circumstances, are you to deviate from your line.
  60. // Ditch the washer-nut and valve-stem cap.You are not, under any circumstances, to employ the use of the washer-nut and valve-stem cap that come with your inner-tubes or tubulars. They are only supplied to meet shipping regulations. They are useless when it comes to tubes and tires.
  61. // Like your guns, saddles should be smooth and hard.Under no circumstances may your saddle have more than 3mm of padding. Special allowances will be made for stage racing when physical pain caused by subcutaneous cysts and the like (“saddle sores”) are present. Under those conditions, up to 5mm of padding will be allowed – it should be noted that this exception is only temporary until the condition has passed or been excised. A hardman would not change their saddle at all but instead cut a hole in it to relieve pressure on the delicate area. It is noted that if Rule #48 and/or Rule #5 is observed then any “padding” is superfluous.7
  62. // You shall not ride with earphones.Cycling is about getting outside and into the elements and you don’t need to be listening to Queen or Slayer in order to experience that. Immerse yourself in the rhythm and pain, not in whatever 80’s hair band you call “music”.   See Rule #5 and ride your bike.8
  63. // Point in the direction you’re turning.Signal a left turn by pointing your left arm to the left. To signal a right turn, simply point with your right arm to the right. This one is, presumably, mostly for Americans: that right-turn signal that Americans are taught to make with your left arm elbow-out and your forearm pointing upwards was developed for motor-vehicles prior to the invention of the electric turn signal since it was rather difficult to reach from the driver-side all the way out the passenger-side window to signal a right turn. On a bicycle, however, we don’t have this limitation and it is actually quite easy to point your right arm in the direction you are turning. The American right-turn signal just makes you look like you’re waving “hello” to traffic.
  64. // Cornering confidence increases with time and experience.This pattern continues until it falls sharply and suddenly.
  65. // Maintain and respect your machine.Bicycles must adhere to the Principle of Silence and as such must be meticulously maintained. It must be cherished, and when leaning it against a wall, must be leaned carefully such that only the bars, saddle, or tires come in contact with the wall or post.  This is true even when dismounting prior to collapsing after the World Championship Time Trial. No squeaks, creaks, or chain noise allowed. Only the soothing hum of your tires upon the tarmac and the rhythm of your breathing may be audible when riding. When riding the Pave, the sound of chain slap is acceptable. The Principle of Silence can be extended to say that if you are suffering such that your breathing begins to adversely affect the enjoyment of the other riders in the bunch, you are to summarily sit up and allow yourself to be dropped.10
  66. // No  mirrors.Mirrors are allowed on your (aptly named) Surly Big Dummy or your Surly Long Haul Trucker. Not on your road steed. Not on your Mountain bike. Not on your helmet. If someone familiar with The Rules has sold you such an abomination, return the mirror and demand a refund, plus interest and damages.
  67. // Do your time in the wind.Nobody likes a wheel sucker. You might think you’re playing a smart tactical game by letting everyone else do the work while you sit on, but races (even Town Sign Sprints) are won through cooperation and spending time on the rivet, flogging yourself and taking risks. Riding wheels and jumping past at the end is one thing and one thing only: poor sportsmanship.
  68. // Rides are to be measured by quality, not quantity.Rides are to be measured by the quality of their distance and never by distance alone. For climbing rides, distances should be referred to by the amount of vertical covered; flat and rolling rides should be referred to by their distance and average speed. For example, declaring “We rode 4km” would assert that 4000m were climbed during the ride, with the distance being irrelevant. Conversely, a flat ride of 150km at 23kmh is not something that should be discussed in an open forum and Rule #5 must be reviewed at once.7
  69. // Cycling shoes and bicycles are made for riding.Any walking conducted while wearing cycling shoes must be strictly limited. When taking a slash or filling bidons during a 200km ride (at 38kmh, see Rule #68) one is to carefully stow one’s bicycle at the nearest point navigable by bike and walk the remaining distance. It is strictly prohibited that under any circumstances a cyclist should walk up a steep incline, with the obvious exception being when said incline is blocked by riders who crashed because you are on the Koppenberg. For clarification, see Rule #5.7
  70. // The purpose of competing is to win.End of. Any reference to not achieving this should be referred immediately to Rule #5.11
  71. // Train Properly.Know how to train properly and stick to your training plan. Ignore other cyclists with whom you are not intentionally riding. The time for being competitive is not during your training rides, but during competition.
  72. // Legs speak louder than words.Unless you routinely demonstrate your riding superiority and the smoothness of your Stroke, refrain from discussing your power meter, heartrate, or any other riding data.  Also see Rule #74.
  73. // Gear and brake cables should be cut to optimum length.Cables should create a perfect arc around the headtube and, whenever possible, cross under the downtube. Right shifter cable should go to the left cable stop and vice versa.
  74. // V Meters or small computers only.Forego the data and ride on feel; little compares to the pleasure of riding as hard as your mind will allow. Learn to read your body, meditate on Rule #5, and learn to push yourself to your limit. Power meters, heart rate monitors and GPS are bulky, ugly and superfluous. Any cycle computer, if deemed necessary, should be simple, small, mounted on the stem and wireless.
  75. // Race numbers are for races.Remove it from your frame before the next training ride because no matter how cool you think it looks, it does not look cool. Unless you are in a race. In which case it looks cool.
  76. // Helmets are to be hung from your stem.When not worn, helmets are to be clipped to the stem and draped over your handlebars thusly.
  77. // Respect the earth; don’t litter.Cycling is not an excuse to litter. Do not throw your empty gel packets, energy bar wrappers or punctured tubes on the road or in the bush. Stuff em in your jersey pockets, and repair that tube when you get home.12
  78. // Remove unnecessary gear.When racing in a criterium of 60 minutes or less the second (unused) water bottle cage must be removed in order to preserve the aesthetic of the racing machine.13
  79. // Fight for your town lines.Town lines must be contested or at least faked if you’re not in to it or too shagged to do anything but pedal the bike.
  80. // Always be Casually Deliberate.Waiting for others pre-ride or at the start line pre-race, you must be tranquilo, resting on your top tube thusly. This may be extended to any time one is aboard the bike, but not riding it, such as at stop lights.15
  81. // Don’t talk it up.Rides and crashes may only be discussed and recounted in detail when the rider required external assistance in recovery or recuperation. Otherwise refer to Rule #5.
  82. // Close the gap.Whilst riding in cold and/or  Rule #9 conditions replete with arm warmers, under no circumstances is there to be any exposed skin between the hems of your kit and the hems of your arm warmers. If this occurs, you either need to wear a kit that fits you properly or increase the size of your guns. Arm warmers may, however, be shoved to the wrists in Five and Dime scenarios, particularly those involving Rule #9 conditions. The No-Gap Principle also applies to knee and leg warmers with the variation that these are under no circumstances to be scrunched down around the ankles; Merckx have mercy on whomever is caught in such a sad, sorry state. It is important to note that while one can wear arm warmers without wearing knee or leg warmers, one cannot wear knee or leg warmers without wearing arm warmers (or a long sleeve jersey). It is completely inappropriate to have uncovered arms, while covering the knees, with the exception of brief periods of time when the arm warmers may be shoved to the wrists while going uphill in a Five and Dime situation. If the weather changes and one must remove a layer, the knee/leg coverings must go before the arm coverings. If that means that said rider must take off his knee or leg warmers while racing, then this is a skill he must be accomplished in. The single exception would be before an event in which someone plans on wearing neither arm or leg warmers while racing, but would like to keep the legs warm before the event starts; though wearing a long sleeve jersey over the racing kit at this time is also advised. One must not forget to remove said leg warmers. 16
  83. // Be self-sufficient.Unless you are followed by a team car, you will repair your own punctures. You will do so expediently, employing your own skills, using your own equipment, and without complaining that your expensive tyres are too tight for your puny thumbs to fit over your expensive rim. The fate of a rider who has failed to equip himself pursuant to Rule #31, or who knows not how to use said equipment, shall be determined at the discretion of any accompanying or approaching rider in accordance with Rule #84.17
  84. // Follow the Code.Consistently with The Code Of The Domestique, the announcement of a flat tyre in a training ride entitles – but does not oblige – all riders then present in the bunch to cease riding without fear of being labelled Pussies. All stopped riders are thereupon entitled – but not obliged – to lend assistance, instruction and/or stringent criticism of the tyre mender’s technique. The duration of a Rule #84 stop is entirely discretionary, but is generally inversely proportional to the duration of the remaining time available for post-ride espresso.17
  85. // Descend like a Pro.All descents shall be undertaken at speeds commonly regarded as “ludicrous” or “insane” by those less talented. In addition all corners will be traversed in an outside-inside-outside trajectory, with the outer leg extended and the inner leg canted appropriately (but not too far as to replicate a motorcycle racer, for you are not one), to assist in balance and creation of an appealing aesthetic. Brakes are generally not to be employed, but if absolutely necessary, only just prior to the corner. Also see Rule #64.18
  86. // Don’t half-wheel.Never half-wheel your riding partners; it’s terrible form – it is always the other guy who sets the pace. Unless, of course, you are on the rivet, in which case it’s an excellent intimidation technique.22
  87. // The Ride Starts on Time. No exceptions.The upside of always leaving on time is considerable. Others will be late exactly once. You signal that the sanctity of this ride, like all rides, is not something with which you should muck. You demonstrate, not with words but with actions, your commitment. As a bonus, you make more time for post-ride espresso. “On Time”, of course, is taken to mean at V past the hour or half hour.
  88. // Don’t surge.When rolling onto the front to take your turn in the wind, see Rule #67, do not suddenly lift the pace unless trying to establish a break. The key to maintaining a high average speed is to work with your companions and allow no gaps to form in the line. It is permissible to lift the pace gradually and if this results in people being dropped then they have been ridden off your wheel and are of no use to the bunch anyway. If you are behind someone who jumps on the pedals when they hit the front do not reprimand the offender with cries of ‘Don’t Surge’ unless the offender is a Frenchman named Serge.
  89. // Pronounce it Correctly.All races shall be referred to by the name given in its country of origin, and care shall be taken to pronounce the name as well as possible. For Belgian Races, it is preferable to choose the name given in its region of origin, though it is at the speaker’s discretion to use either the Flemish or Wallonian pronunciation. This principle shall also be extended to apply to riders’ names, bicycle and component marquees, and cycling accoutrements.
  90. // Never Get Out of the Big Ring.If it gets steeper, just push harder on the pedals. When pressed on the matter, the Apostle Johan Museeuw simply replied, “Yes, why would you slow down?” It is, of course, acceptable to momentarily shift into the inner ring when scaling the 20% ramps of the Kapelmuur.
  91. // No Food On Training Rides Under Four Hours.This one also comes from the Apostle, Johan Museeuw, who said to @frank: “Yes, no food on rides under four hours. You need to lose some weight.” Or, as Fignon put it, sometimes, when we train, we simply have to go out to meet the Man with the Hammer. The exception is, of course, hard rides over two hours and races. Also, if you’re planning on being out for more than four hours, start eating before you get hungry. This also applies to energy drink supplements.
  92. // No Sprinting From the HoodsThe only exception is riders whose name starts with Guiseppe and ends with Saronni. See the Goodwood Worlds in 82.24
  93. // Descents are not for recovery. Recovery Ales are for RecoveryDescents are meant to be as hard and demanding as – and much more dangerous than – the climbs. Climb hard, descend to close a gap or open one. Descents should hurt, not be a time for recovery. Recovery is designated only for the pub and for shit-talking.25
  94. // Use the correct tool for the job, and use the tool correctly.Bicycle maintenance is an art; tools are designed to serve specific purposes, and it is essential that the Velominatus learns to use each tool properly when working on their loyal machine.
  95. // Never lift your bike over your head.Under no circumstances is it acceptable to raise one’s machine above your head. The only exception is when placing it onto a car’s roof-rack.

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Credits

1 Thanks to Geof for this submission.
2 Stijn Devolder on Rule #5, in defense of staying in Belgium when his teammates went off to train in sunny Spain: “It is not so cold that you freeze on to your bike. You go from a temperature of zero (Celsius) to minus one and you’re not dead; It hardens your character.”
3 It is possible for experts to mix these matching guidelines successfully without breaking The Rules.  This is a very risky undertaking and can yield unpredictable results.  Proceed carefully and, if in doubt, run your configuration by the Keepers for approval.
4 Famous quote by Greg LeMond, hardman and American Cycling legend. Greg Henderson quote courtesy of Neil. (Incidentally, it does not matter how fast you go, but you may never give up.)
5 Thanks to James for his sound input on modifying this submission from it’s original draft which read, “An exception to wearing a cap when not riding is: If you have a soigneur (you don’t) and he places the cap on your head after you’ve just won a mountain top finish or soloed into the velodrome (you haven’t).”
6 Thanks to Rob for this submission.
7 Thanks to Rob (different from Rob in 6) for this submission.
8 Thanks to Saul at Speedy Reedy for this submission.
9 Thanks to BarryRoubaix for the astute observation regarding Time Trial Bikes.
10Thanks to Souleur for the astute observation regarding the Principle of Silence.
11 Thanks to Charlie for this addition.
12 Thanks to Jarvis and Steampunk for their tidy ways.
13 Thanks to Cyclops for this sensibly aesthetic addition.
15 Thanks to SupermanSam via our friends at CyclingTipsBlog.
16 Thanks to Rusty Tool Shed and Reid Beloni for assistance in helping craft the language of this Rule.
17 Thanks to Karim for this most accurate contribution.
18 Thanks to SterlingMatt for this most accurate contribution.
21 There are variants of this story, including one which is more likely to be the actual way this story unfolded, which goes that Sean Kelly is met by his wife after a the ’84 Amstel Gold Race and they get in his Citroen AX: “Ah, Sean” says his beloved wife, “in your life the car comes first, then the bike, then me.” “You got the order wrong,” Kelly scowls, “the bike comes first.” Thanks to Oli Brooke-White for helping sort out the details of the story.
22 Thanks to David Ezzy for this excellent contribution and fantastic ride out to Kaupo and back.
23 Thanks to Donnie Bugno for this most accurate contribution.
24 Thanks to Robert Millar – yes the Robert Millar for filling this most glaring omission.
25 Thanks to @urbanwhitetrash for the submission.

12,462 Replies to “The Rules”

  1. @Ron
    You shouldn’t really break the chain to clean it however if you really have to do it you shouldn’t break it at the pin/place that was first used to connect it.Go to opposite side,break there and re-connect with power/master link.If you don’t know how to clean the chain without taking it off I’d recommend you KMC chains that come with power link.

  2. @TommyTubolare

    Let’s throw in Group-san 11 into discussion

    Regardless of how good it is, that crankset looks shit. The highlights don’t even line up going from crank to chainring. makes it llok like there’s some sort of cheap cover involved.

    If I ever find myself in the position of being able to afford such top end kit I may well go for the the rest of the Dura-ace kit but there’s no way I’d fit them on my bile. Besides, it’s probably time to find out what the fuss is with with Campagnolo.

  3. I called by this page to be appalled at the dura-ace cover misalignment (true) and I noticed Rule #89.
    now firstly, how do you expect to pronounce it right if you can’t even spell it right … “bicycle and component marquees” indeed.

    and secondly – and I have the proud honour to report this firsthand from somewhere in southern Germany (or Deutschland according to Rule #91 I guess) – I can tell you that your typical American pronunciation can make a natives ear bleed.

    Please could you add a soundbite of you saying ‘cycling accoutrements” for the enlightenment of the masses and the amusement of the French.

  4. So Rule #10? Complete, absolute truth.

    Instead of taking the car, I took the bike to visit relatives. One way, 60km, 1400m accumulated climbing. Starts flat, turns into rolling, and becomes proper climbing soon after – with some real 15% leg-breakers. By the time I reached those, I felt like shit, barely grinding the pedals on some. But guess what? I was minutes faster up some of the sectors than the last time I rode with a tracker. Felt just as hard, but I went significantly faster. The granny ring (as a Budgetatus, I’m still rocking the original Sora triple) didn’t see any use.

    I should go and ride the exact route of my first-ever ride. Maybe even next month, exactly a year after.

  5. @Chris
    Regardless of your amateur and meaningless to others opinion I think pictures will do the talking and people can draw their own conclusions.Since you still don’t know what’s Campagnolo all about you’re obviously got to be an expert on groupsets.Plus who told you the groupset is good or bad?I didn’t.Did you test ride it or you just assumed it’s good?

  6. @harminator
    Yes one of the most exciting finishes ever.Commentators in all languages were going nuts.I’m very glad I didn’t see the results and watched the highlights.

  7. More importantly, it looks like the DA crank is moving away from a 130mm bcd 5 bolt chainrings. That’s not going to go down well, since Shimano haven’t had great success with proprietary DA in the past (only one I can think of was 9 speed (?) DA freehub bodies that would only take DA cassettes. If they tried to roll out that bolt pattern configuration to the rest of their lines people would be pissed.

  8. @TommyTubolare

    @Chris
    Regardless of your amateur and meaningless to others opinion I think pictures will do the talking and people can draw their own conclusions.Since you still don’t know what’s Campagnolo all about you’re obviously got to be an expert on groupsets.Plus who told you the groupset is good or bad?I didn’t.Did you test ride it or you just assumed it’s good?

    I’m going to throw in my two cents here and say as delicately as I can; I’m not a fan of the DA or Ultegra crank sets now. The rest of the gruppo (group-san?) is pretty. I’m very fond of, and still have a DA CS from the 9speed era. While perhaps it could have been put more delicately, and everyone here has their own opinion, it’s not my favorite. I feel the same way about SRAM Red. Rival and Force are OK to look at, but not Red. Just MHO.

  9. As the famous Paraphrased saying goes, “There’s no accounting for taste, mine included.”

  10. @TommyTubolare

    @harminator
    Yes one of the most exciting finishes ever.Commentators in all languages were going nuts.I’m very glad I didn’t see the results and watched the highlights.

    My Lord! What a finish and what awesome commentary! THAT is what it is all about, the commentary even more than the race. That was just awesome to watch! Check it out if you have not seen it. I youtube’d it (is that now a proper verb?) and found the eurosport version with commentary.

    It is truly what this site is all about. Passion and love of the sport!

  11. Chapeau to Keisse for getting back on and holding them off.

    Shame the director cut away from him trying to get his chain back on to the overhead shot of the peloton and we don’t see him until the last 300m. TV coverage of cycling is so shit.

    Suggestion for Frank – maybe we should have a running V-Roll of Honour (and an Anti-V Roll of Dishonour) to which events and incidents can be added through the year and become the shortlist for the ultimate award.

  12. @ChrisO
    Sometimes the coverage is poorly directed, I agree. Its frustrating when there is focus on the peleton when the action is in the break or vice-versa. It should be an easy call for the director mid stage but the time pressure is immense (and increases) in the last 5k. Its a hard call to make. He probably went to the chopper shot to see if he could get Keisse and the peloton in the same shot. Tough call.

    What gets me is that we never get a speed indicator. The technology is already there but its not well used. Why not have a speedo together with the distance stat in the corner? Unless the motorbike bike camera happens to film the moto speedo we have no true indication. Wouldn’t you love to see how fast the break is moving, or the sprint chain, or Nibbles descending?

  13. @scaler911
    Look scaler while I appreciate your 2 cents opinion my reply you quoted says it all.So just to clarify I don’t use Shimano and it’s not my bike.Even if it was I wouldn’t give a fuck and neither would you.The photos are from Japan and show something that was due to be released much later in 2012 or even in 2013.Who knows?I put it out so others can see.Maybe it will help somebody who is in the market for a new groupset to get an idea how it might look like.Within two minutes of that post I got a pointless reply which adds no value at all hence my reply.Why the clueless here have always lots of dumb shit to say that never adds value whatsoever?To get a new color icon,most definitely.
    Look your post is perfectly cool and well put but I’m sure you get an idea what I mean.

  14. @harminator

    Sure, a director under pressure has to make a call, although in this case he had the shot of Keisse and he went away from it and stayed away, compounding the error.
    They get paid to make those decisions and he screwed up.

    But to your other point about speeds etc I totally agree – that’s the sort of thing I mean about cycling coverage being so shite.

    There was a good article on Inrng recently about the French TV coverage, which of course is the feed that we all see on the TDF and which largely sets the template for all other cycling coverage.

    Cycling has many hours of coverage, much of which has very little happening, so their approach is to fill it with a travelogue and scenic shots. It’s also connected to ASO and the towns and departements which pay to get the tour coming through. This is the quid pro quo.

    Unfortunately it has fossilised their coverage (although French TV and innovation are rarely mentioned in the same sentence).

    Rather than spend money on helicopters they could be doing things with graphics and information – speed is just one part of it, but also things like:
    analysis of power and heart rates (if not live then from previous stages)
    dynamic graphics of positions on the road using the bike-mounted transponders
    monitoring and text/ticker reporting of race radio (see Formula One for example)
    focus on individual teams/riders – in car cameras, bike following one rider per day etc
    better camera positions in finishes e.g. rail cameras on sprint stages as used in swimming and athletics

    The promotional and PR stuff would be better done in a multimedia way – have a live feed with links to videos and information about the route so people can follow it as the race moves through.

    All these things are done in other sports like football, baseball, track, pool etc.

    It annoys me immensely (can you tell ?) that instead of getting it in cycling we have yet another f***ing chateau or some farmers who have herded their sheep into the shape of a bicycle and painted their children red, white and blue…

  15. @ChrisO
    I am the polar opposite to you then. As far as I’m concerned the scenic shots of France or any other country that the Tour passes through are a huge part of the tele-visual appeal of the coverage, especially when a break is away and the peloton is just rolling along behind.

    At some points of a race I suppose I wouldn’t mind some optional access to the information you suggest, but I’d be royally fucked off if my screen was cluttered full of data and those awful goddam ticker-tapes the whole bloody time.

  16. Looks like I missed the fun. My comment was a slight dig at Shimano, just for fun but the comment was mostly to pass on some inspired nonclamentature for appraisal. As my name implies I ride a Daccordi, not made in the Giant factory, but in Tuscany. Yes, I am a bit of a bike snob, all in fun King C.

  17. @Oli
    I’d add that the way the Tour is covered is the next best way to actually visualise a given parcours to being there – I read about and saw still photos of Alpe d’Huez, Tourmalet and the Ventoux for years and years, but it wasn’t until we could see the helicopter footage that I could truly grasp some of what those guys are riding up.

  18. @TommyTubolare
    Hmm, I like the heated discussions on here but you’ve got me a bit confused. You post some pictures up for consideration as part of the discussion on groupsets, people start to discuss and then you don’t seem to like it? Nobody is having a go at you. All @Chris said was he doesn’t like the way it looks and @scaler911 has similar concerns about current cranksets. Anyways, we should all cool our boots since a quick search of the interwebs shows those pictures are spy shots of a prototype so perhaps some of the visual quirks will be ironed out before release, at which point we’ll hear how well it functions.

    Moving on, I can remember reading a write up to a bike show held last year, maybe in Taiwan, in Cycling News where they briefly mentioned a company (not one of the big three) that had developed a 12 speed system. But that got me thinking that at some point there would need to be an increase in rear spacing to accommodate more sprockets and/or disk brake hardware… n+1, n+1…

  19. @ChrisO

    I agree with you for the most part. The rail camera that was used on the Champs Élysées last year was very cool.

  20. @frank

    @norbs

    @frank

    @norbs

    @Daccordi Rider

    @GianniKen Ho is a fellow poster on Australian Cycling Forums, also home to Norbs the Nemesis. I thought his idea re nomenaclature was inspired.@Frank – True dat, we need our hearts to beat a bit faster.

    True that.

    Thankfully, it seems I have been embraced by the Velominatus on the whole. Some I expect, still want me hung, drawn and quartered by by orange bar tape. :)

    Only if you keep using those fucking emoticons.

    I know I don’t have an encyclopedic knowledge of the rules, but is use of emoticons also frowned upon? There is a lot to learn.

    Indeed. We like to eliminate emoticons so we can manage to misintpret each other even more than we normally would with just text. That way we can argue more over less important matters. Like mixing up the singular (Velominatus) with the plural (Velominati) of various made-up words.

    Thanks for the clarification.

  21. Also not a fan of the looks of the new Shimano cranksets. Too angular & look like a machine out of a some new blockbuster summer movie where machines come to blow up the planet. They need to stop making those movies. “Maximum Overdrive” set the bar at an unreachable level, especially because the soundtrack is from such an awesome band.

    Tommy – don’t worry. I clean my chains on the bike. I will pull my cross bike chains after heavy mud riding, if they have a master link. I was a bit vague as I have an intricate relationship with my chains; while there are Rules, what goes on between us cannot be dictated the standards of an outsider.

    Oooh, ToT Stage 7 highlights during breakfast on Sunday morning before heading out for my No Sloping Top Tubes Sunday ride? Sounds good to me!

  22. @Dr C

    If there is a greater V-moment this season, I’ll eat my rear derailleur – I have to confess to have tears rolling down my cheeks as I watched this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn_P5s-ITJo

    REESSSPPECT!!!!

    That is different commentary than the link that I watched but super as well! Try to find the one with Sean Kelly and some other guy commentating. I wish that i could post the link but i am on my ipad and have no idea of how to do it from this bloody thing. It is of video taken by some guy of his TV showing eurosport’s coverage of the race finish and the other guy commentating, not Kelly, us amazing! Totally aving a heart attack but just passionate brilliance. If you do not feel that guy’s emotion in something in your life, it’s time to do something differently!

  23. @Jonny
    Johnny without going any further into this you answered it in your own post.Exactly I put something up for discussion.If somebody without knowing much about it goes and starts a ‘discussion’ by calling a crankset shit,which it isn’t,I wouldn’t call it a discussion.Oli posted Time bike a while ago that he meticulously built up and similarly dumb comments followed so it’s not like we haven’t been there before.Similarly that bike is owed by somebody who races in Japan at ‘J Pro Tour’.Perhaps we need to post shit on high resolution photo first followed by a chainset for some to get it.

    Anyway moving on in terms of sprocket numbers I have two bikes-one running on Campagnolo Record 10 and the other on SR/Record 11.To be honest if I had to keep just one groupset I’d pick Record 10.I like old record levers much more.They work and click much better.I’m thinking of modifying record 10 lever with a ratchet for 11 speed which can be done,or just run 10 speed cassettes for a while.

  24. @Oli
    Yes Oli.Also to me it’s all about the racing and geography and terrain of the given country.Where else would you see some small,local,little villages with excellent climbs from a helicopter shots.Documentary-maybe but they always focus on major attractions.
    Just recently in Giro del Trentino stage 3 they went to Punta Veleno I think for the first time.What an awesome climb.If you haven’t already seen it check it out on some highlights.Plus with HD broadcast almost everywhere now the helicopter shots are stunning.Watching Strade Bianche on Sporza HD this year was another good example.Awesome scenery.

  25. @TommyTubolare
    No worries, but all anyone is saying is they don’t like the aesthetics and given that a lot of what we discuss here revolves around opinions on good taste then that’s fair enough. All we have to go off is the photos so there’s not much room for further comment and nobody is saying the crankset is functionally bad or inferior. For all we know it may grant the rider the Power of Merckx and give you a post-ride massage with a happy ending.

    The thing that get’s me about the increase in sprockets is that we all know where it will end up, i.e. one tooth jumps all the way through the range on any cassette, assuming the ranges that seem standard now continue to be. Although if you got one step changes across an 11-28 why bother changing the cassette – that would mean an 18 speed system. But we’re going to have to wait a number of years while the manufacturers sort that out and introduce incremental updgrades… would be nice if they cut to the chase.

  26. Just seen that Jolly Naughty Wiggins won the final time trial stage and therefore the GC for the Tour de Romandie. Strong work all round by Team Sky and looking good for le Tour.

  27. Saw this bottle at my local Beer Mecca last night. Fits pretty well with our group I’d say.

  28. @Buck Rogers

    @Buck Rogers

    @TommyTubolare
    Actually it s the 2:09 long link on this page. Kelly is the co-commentater on this one and the other guy gets so awesomely into it with about one minute to go. http://www.cyclingfans.com/node/4545

    Well, damn, that is not the correct link either! Painful!

    That IS the correct link but here is the direct link to the video. It is the BEST version I have heard out of three different ones:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPHTMawyug&feature=youtu.be

    A bit of crappy video but the audio is sooo worth it!

  29. Finally worked! I should never try to do anything but check mail on my ipad!

  30. @Jonny

    Moving on, I can remember reading a write up to a bike show held last year, maybe in Taiwan, in Cycling News where they briefly mentioned a company (not one of the big three) that had developed a 12 speed system. But that got me thinking that at some point there would need to be an increase in rear spacing to accommodate more sprockets and/or disk brake hardware… n+1, n+1…

    At that point, I will stock up on cassettes and hubs and officially become an old fart. Manufacturers will have a hard time convincing me that the current 100mm front, 130mm rear spacing needs to change. Same with disc-brakes – they could be an amazing technical improvement, but they destroy the beauty of the bike. I could never imagine my road or time-trial bikes having discs.

  31. @TommyTubolare

    @Chris
    Regardless of your amateur and meaningless to others opinion I think pictures will do the talking and people can draw their own conclusions.Since you still don’t know what’s Campagnolo all about you’re obviously got to be an expert on groupsets.Plus who told you the groupset is good or bad?I didn’t.Did you test ride it or you just assumed it’s good?

    WTF? Spectacularly epic fail. My original post made no mention at all of the crankset being shit. It was merely a comment on its aesthetics. That seems to have been apparent to everyone else. I might be mistaken but the aesthetics of the sport form a pretty large part of the whole raison d’être of this site.

    Your tips on gluing tubulars were greatly appreciated but I’m not massively bothered whether you like my opinions on aesthetics but if you’re going to take issue with them at least read and understand them first.

    I am extremely sorry, though, that in the year that I’ve been riding road bikes seriously, I haven’t had the chance to ride a Campagnolo equipped bike and I really do understand that until I do I couldn’t possibly be considered a proper cyclist.

  32. @tessar
    If the riders can’t sit far enough forward, wouldn’t changing the geometry of the frame help?

    I’m just amazed that no one is trying to slip by this rule by using clever tactics that aren’t exactly legal but not expressly forbidden, like the piti-principle. It happens all the time in the Formula 1, and I can remember Fränk Schleck’s front pocket TT suit.

  33. @Netraam
    If you can work out a way to get around the UCI rules on seat tube angle and saddle length etc., you will make yourself a motza!

  34. So what are the rules around “bike bling”, like using red anodized chain ring bolts and red jockey pulleys, when ones bike is white/carbon with red decals and red highlight on FSA components? Acceptable?

  35. @TommyTubolare

    @scaler911
    Look scaler while I appreciate your 2 cents opinion my reply you quoted says it all.So just to clarify I don’t use Shimano and it’s not my bike.Even if it was I wouldn’t give a fuck and neither would you.The photos are from Japan and show something that was due to be released much later in 2012 or even in 2013.Who knows?I put it out so others can see.Maybe it will help somebody who is in the market for a new groupset to get an idea how it might look like.Within two minutes of that post I got a pointless reply which adds no value at all hence my reply.Why the clueless here have always lots of dumb shit to say that never adds value whatsoever?To get a new color icon,most definitely.
    Look your post is perfectly cool and well put but I’m sure you get an idea what I mean.

    Why’d you post it then and ask for a discussion? I’m sure, just like all the top 3 groups offered by the 3 big manufacturers, they work with precision and are durable with longevity. I don’t like the way it looks. As @Chris said, aesthetics are a big bit about why we’re here, and ultimately it’s a personal choice. Sorry you don’t approve of my (our) response, but unlike @Chris, I’ve been at it since before Delta brakes and Super Record. I’m comfortable with any opinion I might have about cycling. And to be clear, I don’t hang around here to get a new colored icon.

  36. @Sauterelle

    @scaler911

    @G’rilla

    @Mikael Liddy
    And I am second in line. 1808 NW 83rd St, Seattle WA 98117 USA

    @mcsqueak

    @Mikael Liddy

    Can I be third in line? Would giving you money put me closer to first?

    I see your money and raise you a very smart cute, rambunctious 6 year old. (Settle down people, he’s mine not stolen).

    I have boobs.

    Your plan was nearly flawless Squeek, however you are now second in line behind Sauterelle. Scaler, sneaky move trying to palm off the Velomijunior thereby freeing up more funds for bike improvements.

    Still not sure what’ll happen with it at this stage, the theory of having some back up gear should anything fail is tempting but storage space is an issue & the potential windfall to come from selling it on could be reinvested elsewhere…

  37. @Mikael Liddy

    @Sauterelle

    @scaler911

    @G’rilla

    @Mikael Liddy
    And I am second in line. 1808 NW 83rd St, Seattle WA 98117 USA

    @mcsqueak

    @Mikael Liddy

    Can I be third in line? Would giving you money put me closer to first?

    I see your money and raise you a very smart cute, rambunctious 6 year old. (Settle down people, he’s mine not stolen).

    I have boobs.

    Your plan was nearly flawless Squeek, however you are now second in line behind Sauterelle. Scaler, sneaky move trying to palm off the Velomijunior thereby freeing up more funds for bike improvements.

    Still not sure what’ll happen with it at this stage, the theory of having some back up gear should anything fail is tempting but storage space is an issue & the potential windfall to come from selling it on could be reinvested elsewhere…

    Boobs. It’s always boobs.

  38. @scaler911

    @TommyTubolare

    @scaler911Look scaler while I appreciate your 2 cents opinion my reply you quoted says it all.So just to clarify I don’t use Shimano and it’s not my bike.Even if it was I wouldn’t give a fuck and neither would you.The photos are from Japan and show something that was due to be released much later in 2012 or even in 2013.Who knows?I put it out so others can see.Maybe it will help somebody who is in the market for a new groupset to get an idea how it might look like.Within two minutes of that post I got a pointless reply which adds no value at all hence my reply.Why the clueless here have always lots of dumb shit to say that never adds value whatsoever?To get a new color icon,most definitely.Look your post is perfectly cool and well put but I’m sure you get an idea what I mean.

    Why’d you post it then and ask for a discussion? I’m sure, just like all the top 3 groups offered by the 3 big manufacturers, they work with precision and are durable with longevity. I don’t like the way it looks. As @Chris said, aesthetics are a big bit about why we’re here, and ultimately it’s a personal choice. Sorry you don’t approve of my (our) response, but unlike @Chris, I’ve been at it since before Delta brakes and Super Record. I’m comfortable with any opinion I might have about cycling. And to be clear, I don’t hang around here to get a new colored icon.

    Scaler, aren’t you the one who has trouble making out the gender of certain individuals? How the fuck do you expect us to respect your opinions on the aesthetics of groupsets?

  39. @Marcus
    If it’s mechanical I’m good (thank two grandparents that were master mechanics for that). If it’s got skin, well, apparently I need help with that.

  40. @scaler911

    @TommyTubolare

    @scaler911
    Look scaler while I appreciate your 2 cents opinion my reply you quoted says it all.So just to clarify I don’t use Shimano and it’s not my bike.Even if it was I wouldn’t give a fuck and neither would you.The photos are from Japan and show something that was due to be released much later in 2012 or even in 2013.Who knows?I put it out so others can see.Maybe it will help somebody who is in the market for a new groupset to get an idea how it might look like.Within two minutes of that post I got a pointless reply which adds no value at all hence my reply.Why the clueless here have always lots of dumb shit to say that never adds value whatsoever?To get a new color icon,most definitely.
    Look your post is perfectly cool and well put but I’m sure you get an idea what I mean.

    Why’d you post it then and ask for a discussion? I’m sure, just like all the top 3 groups offered by the 3 big manufacturers, they work with precision and are durable with longevity. I don’t like the way it looks. As @Chris said, aesthetics are a big bit about why we’re here, and ultimately it’s a personal choice. Sorry you don’t approve of my (our) response, but unlike @Chris, I’ve been at it since before Delta brakes and Super Record. I’m comfortable with any opinion I might have about cycling. And to be clear, I don’t hang around here to get a new colored icon.

    Might I add that that the poor alignment of the crank and chainring, while probably only aesthetic in terms of performance, does point to either poor assembly, unlikely if as you say it is a pro’s bike, or worse poor engineering. It may be only a prototype but seems a bit of an own goal by Shimano letting it out like that to be photographed. Otherwise I think it looks fine.

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